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Best leftist literature?

>> No.11616374 [DELETED] 

mein kampf

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>>11616374

top kek

>> No.11616400

>>11616387
>2 posters in the this
hello op, now go an post this to reddit and show off how evil and racist 4chan is

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>>11616400

Toppest kek

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Paschukanis

>> No.11616882

anti-fa is just a /pol/ boogeyman. the left doesn't even care or talk about them.

>> No.11616901

>>11616368
>Ecology of Freedom
>Post-Scarcity Anarchism
>Philosophy of Social Ecology
All by Murray Bookchin

>Conquest of Bread
Kropotkin

>Green Book
Qaddafi

And so on

>> No.11616913

>>11616368
The Bible
The Art of the Deal
Ulysses

>> No.11616924

>>11616368
all of these are pretty good, and don't require much background, but it doesn't hurt to read a secondary text on hegel and aristotle

oscar wilde - the soul of man under socialism
proudhon - what is property?
johan fornas - capitalism
heinrich - an introduction to three volumes of marx's capital
marx - capital, grundrisse, the german ideology, theories of surplus value
marx & engels - the communist manifesto
gilles dauvé - eclipse and re-emergence of the communist movement
lordon - willing slaves of capital: spinoza and marx on desire
marcuse - one-dimensional man
i.i rubin - essays on marx's theory of value
thomas sekine - towards a critique of bourgeois economics
silvia federici - calbian and the witch: women, the body and primitive accumulation
alain badiou - the communist hypothesis
guy debord - comments on society of the spectacle

>> No.11616930

imperialism ,the highest stage of capitalism

required reading for lefites and righties alike

>> No.11616945

anderson, imagined communities
duara, rescuing history from the nation
zizek, first as tragedy then as farce

>> No.11616989

>>11616924
To add to this, do not fall for Engels' tricks and his complete misunderstanding of the law of value, nor should you fall for Habermas' socdem rubbish; avoid Cockshott at all costs and read Kliman instead.

>> No.11617007

>>11616989
You don't think that the origin of the family, private property and the state is worth reading?

>> No.11617013

>>11616368
The New Testament

>> No.11617014

>>11617007
Personally I wasn't impressed by it, and if you're looking for anthropology and history there's a lot better stuff from the anarchist and feminist camps anyway

>> No.11617016

>[Left and Right] are Party Words; they have no place in literature
I guess Stalin's out.

>> No.11617017

>>11617014
I see

>> No.11617037

Stalin's writings are pretty interesting

>> No.11617048

>>11617013
excellent post here
>Acts 4:32–35

>> No.11617050

>>11617016
He liked Brothers of Karamazov.

>> No.11617051

>>11617014
>if you're looking for anthropology and history there's a lot better stuff from the anarchist and feminist camps
Like what? Genuine question because I'm interested.

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>> No.11617066

>>11617016
stalin lies at the end of your journey

>> No.11617071

Capitalism and schizophrenia. Ya gotta know about deterritorialization my dude

>> No.11617073

>>11617054
Wasn't the accumulation of capital universally poorly received by marxists and non marxists? Seems weird to recommend that over the rest of her writings

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>>11616882
It would make them look really bad if they talked about them. I mean all antifa does is chimp out and intimidate people. Not really what you wanna associate yourself with to get votes.

>> No.11617103

>>11617051
probably graeber - debt, fragments of anarchist anthropology (and some of its critiques), and I can't remember anything feminist from the top of my head (except mackinnon's "toward a feminist theory of the state" and its critiques) but check here: http://anthropology.ua.edu/cultures/cultures.php?culture=Feminist%20Anthropology

Either way I already mentioned federici a couple of posts up, you can use that as a starting point and check out Roswitha Scholz's Patriarchy and Commodity Society: Gender without the Body too. Sorry I can't be of very much help here, I shouldn't have suggested them as alternatives, but if you want to really get into it (which I haven't) then you'll probably want to read Engels anyway, but again remember to read the critiques, especially from the anthropologist angle.

>> No.11617109

"Journey to the End of the Night is the only proletarian novel ever written." - Stalin

>> No.11617123

>>11617109
>i'll pretend i'm as good a writer as stailn, mom, don't i do go, see am georgian poet
no. your mother doesn't love you any more either.

>> No.11617244

>>11617123
kys

>> No.11617257

>>11617244
stop projecting your mother's disappointment

>> No.11617260

>>11616924
>oscar wilde - the soul of man under socialism
great book, and a fantastic argument about how social equality is the path for individual liberation

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>>11616374
>>11616387
>>11616400
>>11616408
>4 posters in this
hello op, now go to your board and show off how reddit is infiltrating 4chan for social points

>> No.11617443

Read Sartre

>>11617089
>he thinks leftists care about elections
embarrassing

>> No.11617452

Now and After: The ABC of Communist Anarchism by A.Berkman
God and the State by M.Bakunin
At The Cafe – Conversations on Anarchism by E.Malatesta

>> No.11617459

>>11616368
>Best leftist literature?
Great book, "How to kill yourself and your whole family in one go" by Oscar Dirlewanger.

>> No.11617467

>>11617443
Well I mean it's really what we want to define as leftists. What the average normie thinks is a liberal leftist certainly cares about votes because these corporation asslicking assholes just so happen run most European countries and the EU

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>>11616368

>> No.11617490

>>11617007
It's Gimbutas-tier new age delirium on ancient aliens level of trash pop pseudoarcheology.

>> No.11617492

>>11617467
True, but since the OP image is an antifa flag I assumed we were using leftist in the correct sense, not the "literally anyone left of american conservatism"

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>>11617051
this book goes into property and disparity as well as cultural (in addition to physical occupation) imperialism.

basically, the empire never ended

>> No.11617607

>>11617073
>>11617054
It is, i don’t know of any later Marxian economists who hold it in high regard. The first chapter of Late Capitalism by Mandel critiques it.


In general this chart is garbage.

-No leftist considers The Soul of Man Under Socialism to be important or essential in any way. That’s not to say it’s good or bad, it’s worth reading but it doesn’t deserve to be here.

-The Most Radical Gesture is genuinely obscure outside a couple circles of academic leftists. It’s an analysis and presentation of the Situationists school of Marxism. If you like Society of Spectacle it’s great but it’s definitely not in the first tier of necessary readings.

-Simulacra and Simulation; while undoubtedly super influential in media studies and cultural criticism if somebody asked me what to read to learn about ‘leftist thought’ that would be way down the list. It’s not really a hard hitting poltical work like SoS or Lenin is.

-The same should be said for both the works by Fredric Jameson that are listed. Both are great works of art and literary criticism and people here would greatly profit from reading them, but the list is schizophrenic in its inclusion.

-Less than Nothing is a +1000 page work on Lacanian and Hegelian philosophy. I’ve read the first maybe 5th of it and based on that I’d say it’s another work firmly meant for the grad student, not the political activist.

-Of the three works by Adorno that are included there is his massive and unfinished aesthetics, something no activist needs to read, and there is redundancy between the other two books listed.

-heideggarian Marxism isn’t a book I’d recommend at all. It’s some early sketches, gestures towards ideas that never worked out by a young Marcuse. It’s just three short essays, and nothing that anybody who isn’t a scholar in a relevant area would find useful at all.

-Of all the possible inclusions of a book by Althusser I’m not sure I’d pick that one but so be it.

-That book by Veblen is certainly interesting and more people ought to read it, but it’s hardly a something todays political activists are reading.

I can tell this was made by somebody who either doesn’t know what they are doing, or was intentionally making a bad thing. It reads like somebody putting down all the books on the shelf of their leftist roommate. It mixes books which are activist essentials with books that are really only read by academics in cultural studies. The ordering is totally random.

There are so many obvious classics that are missing and so many random inclusions. Just an utter disaster

>> No.11617627

>>11617607
what do you think of my recs
here >>11616901
and here >>11617592
?

>> No.11617778

>>11617627
I’m not an anarchist so they aren’t what I’d personally recommend but I’d say that any “essential left” reading list ought to include Bookchin before Fredric Jameson.

And to be clear, I do really like the work of Fredric Jameson, I just don’t think he’s politically ‘important’ to the average activist or organizer.

Today I think the Green Book is more a historical curiosity than a groundbreaking text, though I only read the first little bit of it myself.

>>11616924
This is such an odd list to me. It’s the combination of absolute essentials, badly underrated books that really ought to be considered standard reading, and secondary literature which really ought to have its own section.

I too think Rubin is great but I’d suggest him in the context of secondary lit for somebody reading Capital. Heinrich is in a similar category, though that so-called “introduction” is really just him presenting a sketch of his own new reading of Capital, rather than a true guide to the uninitiated.

Lordon’s book definitely needs *a bit* of background... it’s good and interesting, but it’s not a starter text.

Calbain is an absolutely brilliant book that deserves to be read far more than it is, good suggestion.

I don’t really get the buzz with that text by Badiou, maybe it just doesn’t click with me but I don’t understand what it actually does for us. Do you have have thoughts on it?

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>>11617778
I'm >>11616924 and I have to say that this is really just a list of what I've read or am reading at the moment, and what I'm liking. I didn't really take OP's question of "best" to heart, I just put down what I liked. I didn't want to say they're essential, though.

Heinrich definitely belongs somewhere, but I wanted to get across that some understanding of value theory after Marx would be good, especially since the appendix on value form is confusing as shit (at least to me) and in fact the whole critique seems structured around it, so Rubin was on there too (also because of his explanation of commodity fetishism). I think you could go quite far reading these before or after Capital, but maybe that's too radical of a suggestion, so I didn't put anything about that.

Lordon's book is (I'm 1/2 way through) not a bad read in terms of what you need to know, he goes into a quick overview of Spinoza (useful because I never read him) and directly addresses some of the big justifications like "people enjoy their jobs, what's wrong with that?" etc. Maybe it becomes more advanced later and I'd be out of my league.

As for Badiou, I know very little about him or his theory, but he introduces a crucial insight in the first few pages on the idea of treating Communism as a hypothesis, and provides good discussion on the actual successes of Paris and Shanghai. I think it's better for context rather than any explanation of theory, and I'm pretty argumentative so I have pulled out his explanations a few times, I thought it might be useful there.

But yeah, my list was a pot of simply things I like that aren't so tough to read. Maybe even Marcuse wasn't a great choice there. I was half-tempted to throw in Critique of Pure Tolerance but with the negative reputation I decided against that too. I haven't read anything on Althusser, Veblen, Lacan/Freud, Lenin, Stalin any serious Hegel etc. so maybe I'm not qualified in the first place. I'm the sort of person who browses the Verso "Radical Thinkers" series and just selects something and never finishes it. I rarely have the opportunity to talk about things like this anyway.

>> No.11618037

Almost all of it is "leftist" in some way. And I say this as a rightist

>> No.11618040

>>11617103
>>11617592
thanks

>> No.11618058

>>11616841
I read Violence by Zizek recently and that was pretty decent.
>>11616924
Pretty good list anon kind of stole all I was gonna recommend, so I'll just give the inevitable "this"

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I have a question: why do you read leftist lit and philosophy? What do you gain from it? Do you do it only to talk to other people about it (either convincing them or educating), to argue for it online/IRL, or just for personal enjoyment?

>> No.11618226

>>11618209
>Do you do it only to talk to other people about it (either convincing them or educating), to argue for it online/IRL, or just for personal enjoyment?
All of the above. I enjoy talking about political theory and a lot of leftist literature can be very inspiring.

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Gustav Le Bon: The Psychology of Socialism.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+psychology+of+socialism+pdf

The leftist mind is an amalgam of petty envy and pathological ressentiment.

>> No.11618258

>>11618226
My issue is that I don't really have motivation to read these things one one hand, but I really admire the people who do. I find myself questioning what exactly I'd do with the knowledge. Maybe informally educate people who might bring the next revolution, but... I find that arguing eventually gets tiring. Am I too attached to my sense of time? Is reading in general just a big benefit, more than playing video games and such?

The contemplative life sounds interesting but it doesn't *get* me anywhere. Could this just be a bourgeois mindset?

>> No.11618259

>>11616868
I really liked his work with king crimson

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Have any leftist theorycrafters evolved beyond the antediluvian labor theory of value?

>> No.11618273

>>11618258
Low test. Go to >>>/fit/ and sort yourself out.

>> No.11618284

>>11618267
I'm curious as to why you think that it needs to be evolved past. While some have changed it around a little (Kliman) there's not much reason to go completely "past" it; the notion of value turns out to have great explanatory power in modern society.

>>11618273
If the matter is exercise then I tried this for a few months and just found that the time used up on exercising meant I wanted even more instant gratification from video games and TV because I felt as though I had less time to "enjoy" myself.

>> No.11618288

>>11618242
>Civilisations have always had, as their basis, a certain small number of directing or controlling ideas. When these ideas, after gradually waning, have entirely lost their force, the civilisations which rest on them are doomed to change.
The very first paragraph is some idealist bullshit. Like seriously, do you really think ideas come out of fucking nowhere and are what built civilization? Christ, this is just sad.

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The Dispossessed by Ursula Le Guin is good if you're looking for fiction.

>> No.11618295

>>11618242
This is bullshit

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>>11618258
Don't listen to this >>11618273 shit. It sounds like you just aren't very interested in reading Leftist literature and that's okay. I'd say don't try as hard to force yourself to do things and wait until something naturally pulls you in. I never forced myself to start reading, it's just something I naturally enjoy in the same way people enjoy a good movie or video game. Also maybe you shouldn't jump into theory if that sounds boring, you might need something that's more relatable and story driven to drive you to wanting to learn more about theory. I don't have too many recommendations on that front since I'm not as into fiction or story driven accounts of things as I am theory, but I'd recommend something like Homeage to Catalonia. It's some Orwell that's a real account of his stay in Spain during the Spanish revolution and it gets exciting and interesting even for someone that could care less about Leftist politics. I gave a copy to a friend of mines girlfriend who hardly reads because she was interested in Orwell and she loved it.

>> No.11618392

>>11618364
Fugg, thanks for the encouragement, I think I'll try getting into some fiction like the one you mentioned and >>11618292
I might try to stimulate some interest in philosophy more generally too.

>> No.11618419

>>11618392
read The Ecology of Freedom, man, it's gud

>> No.11618467

>>11616368
>listens to chapo once

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>>11618467

all I want is el chapo

>> No.11618672

>>11618467
I used to really enjoy Chapo right before the election. Has it gone downhill? The only person I keep up with is Felix. I actually listen almost exclusively to Cum Town now.

>> No.11618684 [DELETED] 

Antifa = the shock troops of the jewish global capitalist system.

The fact that they are so stupid that they are completely ignorant to this fact is beyond cute.

>> No.11618707

>>11616368
Richard Rorty - Acheiving our Country: Leftist Thought in Twentieth Century America

>> No.11619069

this
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-6/mswv6_11.htm

>> No.11619081

>>11616924
Why would you recommend comments instead of society of the spectacle?

>> No.11619083

>>11619069
also this
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/

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The Space Merchants - Frederick Pohl
The Dispossessed - Ursula K. Le Guin
Mars Trilogy, New York 2140 - Kim Stanley Robinson

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>>11616368
the left-right paradigm of politics is destructive to the advancement of political analysis

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>> No.11619815

Pynchon, Heller, HST, Tolstoy, and Bolano are all writers with leftist sympathies

>> No.11619820

>>11618684
>Antifa
What is this, 2017?

>> No.11619915

>>11619081
a lot of people going into SotS get very confused and don't know that the comments exists, meanwhile it's hard to miss the fact that SotS exists if you look up the comments.

>> No.11619971

>>11618684
>No I don't know history.

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>>11619915
I can respect that honestly, i often see people on this board try to take on SotS with absolutely no research or knowledge of Hegel/Marx and missing even the most obvious references (e.g the very first theses being a direct reference to Capital)

Comments is a lot more depressing and "on-the-nose" but i think a layman can read and understand Comments since it doesn't require extensive knowledge about his influences, Détournement, or the other weird Situationist jargon Debrod loved to use.
It's a shame SotS keeps just being interpreted as "we live in a society gangweed" instead of the work that it is.

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>> No.11620331

Plato's Republic
*tips fedora*

>> No.11620347

>>11620331
Plato's Republic, then Badiou's hyper-translation of it.

>> No.11620461

>>11620331
Plato's Republic is nazbol.

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>> No.11620495

>>11619820
>political groups cannot be subverted
t. Jew

>> No.11620523

>>11616368
You niggers haven't even defined literature, 80% of what you have posted is philosophy/political philosophy, /lit/ is a fucking joke.

>> No.11620544

>>11616849
>Onfray
hack

>> No.11620672

>>11616989
what's so awful about Cockshott? I was thinking about reading Towards a New Socialism

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>>11616368
Anything by Christopher Lasch

>> No.11620717

>>11618209
I like to know where I stand politically and have firm ground behind my views. Perhaps help a good cause some day.

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rules for radicals & Marx's literature is the only thing you need to read, the rest is just fluff.

>>11617428
this is my board :^)

>> No.11620739

>>11620347
I have a copy of Badiou's translation sitting there. How does it differ from a standard translation apart from using weird-ass modern references

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>>11618652
Retweets Mulldog once

>> No.11620834

>>11620717
>Perhaps help a good cause some day.
yeah maybe throw a couple million lads in the gulag again, that's a good cause innit

>> No.11620861

Anything written by Sinclair

>> No.11620864

>>11616368
The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression

>> No.11620921

>>11620834
got me

>> No.11620968

>>11617459
First good post I've seen in this thread

>> No.11620990

>>11620308
Kek

>> No.11621021

>>11620749
What the retweet?

>> No.11621122

My Disillusionment in Russia - Emma Goldman

>> No.11621166

>>11620864
Oh, and:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Livre_noir_du_capitalisme
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzbuch_Kapitalismus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Livre_noir_du_colonialisme

>> No.11621174

>>11620308
Lel

>> No.11621191

>>11621166
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Livre_noir_du_colonialisme
>Marc Ferro (born 24 December 1924 in Paris) is a French historian.
>His Ukrainian-Jewish mother died during the Holocaust

>> No.11621200

>>11620732
>/leftypol/ """"""""raids"""""""
are just 10 autists posting frogs and woja ks except communist frogs and wojacks. Great revolutionary strategy their buds

>> No.11621204

>>11621191
*hand rubbing intensifies*

>> No.11621214

>>11621191
It's a shame that happened to her, and we should hope it doesn't happen to more people in future. I'm not sure exactly what your point is, to be honest.

>> No.11621257

>>11621214
More seriously a good book on the evil of colonialism would start in antiquity and cover the whole world rather that ideologically restrict itself to modern-era Western imperialism.

>> No.11621263

>>11621214
loss of a h*h*l is never a shame

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>> No.11621307

>>11621257
Book titles can be deceiving, in the same way that "The Republic" isn't about an actually existing republic. The title is fine and I don't really see an issue with restricting the scope, the author probably feels it's the most important thing to talk about, or the most relevant today.

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>>11620672
>what's so awful about Cockshott?
he's not stafford beer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_bXlEvygHg

>> No.11621357

>>11617475
Came here to post this. Also B. Traven.

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>>11621021

>> No.11621415

>>11620672
He has some system in which value is not abolished, the accounting is simply done differently and prices are not decided by a market mechanism. This is not sufficiently qualitatively different from what we have now.

>> No.11621760

>>11616368
Rise of The Fourth Political Theory.

>> No.11622485

bump

>> No.11622531

>>11617013
was gonna say The Gospels + Acts

>> No.11622643

I would say that Laclau and Mouffe are essential readings for the modern democratic left in terms of activism and strategy.

>> No.11622722

>>11622643
also, i'm doing some work on left populism so would appreciate any comments on them or left pop

>> No.11622742
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>>11616368
This book is perfect for every lefty.

>> No.11622780

>>11616924
>proudhon - what is property?
BTFO'd by Marx and Engels in the Poverty of Philosophy.
>oscar wilde - the soul of man under socialism
Idealistic "socialism" written by a bourgeois, and bad writer.

Already it's obvious that you're one of those people who defers his opinions to books yet has never read them.
Because for if you had, you would surely realize there are aspects of them that are totally contradictory with one another. It is equivalent to listing a Mark Levin cuckservative book with Mein Kampf in the same group. You're a total joke. Consider never talking about books or politics again because you're too dull for either. Just go back to reading lowbrow literature and being the average liberal.

>> No.11622832

>>11622780
>BTFO'd by Marx and Engels in the Poverty of Philosophy.
OP asked for recs in general, and Marx wasn't primarily responding to Proudhon's arguments on property in the Poverty of Philosophy.

>Idealistic "socialism" written by a bourgeois, and bad writer.
Who wrote the book is pretty irrelevant; I put it there because it helps get people on board with the idea in general and the inadequacy of capitalism in general.

Not sure why you're being so mean. I haven't read much but I'm part way through two of the books on my list and I've read the rest. You could have put across your comments in a nicer way.

>> No.11622853

>>11622832
>You could have put across your comments in a nicer way.
Perhaps.

>> No.11622854

leftist shit is so inbred and decrepit

>> No.11623049

>>11622854
>decrepit
Well it is based on a political analysis that is 150 years old so no surprise it's getting creaky.

>> No.11623075

>>11617475
best modern playwright

>> No.11623186

>>11618284
>the notion of value turns out to have great explanatory power in modern society.
Only if you contort your analysis of society to fit it.

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>>11617103
>Graeber
https://www.alt-m.org/2016/03/15/myth-myth-barter/
https://www.alt-m.org/2016/03/24/graeber-once-more/

>> No.11624311

i was snackin on peanuts earlier and now i got weird farts

>> No.11624319
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>>11623219
>Cato Institute

>> No.11624329

>>11624319
lmao i was wondering what "alt-m" is, i was like i dont remember those fags from my lefty days, must be some new anarchist crap...cato institute my sides, graeber is shit, but lets be serious in our critique

>> No.11624508 [DELETED] 

>>11616368
If you want to become a Good Leftist, all you have to do is slit your own throat.

>> No.11624610

>>11620749
Truly a rebellious bunch.

>> No.11625169

>>11624319
>>11624329
Do you guys have any pointers for where I can find more info about the left perspective anthropology of money, and in particular left-critiques of Graeber?

>> No.11625182

>He still doesnt bow down to his neoliberal silicon overlords

Kek stay dusty leftists. Mm-muuhh revolution. Yall just pussies that would be happy with succdemism

>> No.11625394

>>11622854
Cadaverous body of thought desu

>> No.11625868

>>11620732
fucking next LEVEL shit here.
Start a reddit page
Create ddifferent accounts
make a fake spam group

post on 4chan as 4 different people for a meme,
then back that meme up with ANOTHER 4 PEOPLE WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU MOTHERFUCKER YOU

>> No.11625943 [DELETED] 

>>11624319
The fact of the matter is that the man has never actually read Menger.

>> No.11625980 [DELETED] 

>>11624319
>>11624329
The fact of the matter is that Graeber has never read Smith thoroughly or Menger at all, and is at best a second-rate anthropologist with a supervening ideology who thinks that he can singlehandedly go up against the entire field of neoclassical economics with only some anecdotes about gift economies. But I understand if you want to confirm your own biases. Here is a critique from Jacobin where some cookie-cutter orthodox Marxist accuses him of not being Marxist enough:
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2012/08/debt-the-first-500-pages/

>> No.11625989

>>11624319
>>11624329
>>11625169
>Didn't actually read
The fact of the matter is that Graeber has never read Smith thoroughly or Menger at all, and is at best a second-rate anthropologist with a supervening ideology who thinks that he can singlehandedly go up against the entire field of neoclassical economics with only some anecdotes about gift economies. But I understand if you want to confirm your own biases. Here is a critique from Jacobin where some cookie-cutter orthodox Marxist accuses him of not being Marxist enough:
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2012/08/debt-the-first-500-pages/

>> No.11626040

>>11624319
He's not wrong.

>> No.11626062

What is the point? The left is done. There is no hope.

>> No.11626240

>>11625182
Musk wastes millions of US taxpayer $$$ a year
Tesla isn't some gleaming example of private enterprise

>> No.11626249

>>11626062
Trump is broadly unpopular in the US. Corbyn is popular in the UK. Socialism is popular among young people. The alt-right has been outnumbered massively in virtually every rally it attends.

>> No.11626258

>>11626062
Then why does /pol/ complain about literally everything? They make it seem like leftism has won.

>> No.11626264

>>11626249
>He thinks the alt-right is an actual movement

>> No.11626275

>>11616868
Is this the book where he hangs around with a bunch of Manchester United hooligans?

>> No.11626286

>>11626249
Young people are retarded what do you expect. *sips*

>> No.11626289

The best leftist book is a leftist book burning along with a whole pile of leftist books

>> No.11626362

>>11626258
/pol/ has no idea what they're talking about, what else is new?

>> No.11626458

>>11626289
>people refuse to give platforms to the far right
>far right spergs out in entitled rage about censorship despite heavy online presence
>far-right discusses their utopian future
>"burning books and right wing death squads lel"

>> No.11626519

>>11626458
unironically based.

>> No.11626757

>leftist books
>all books by random liberals, post-modernists who aren't even left wingers and zizek
Geez. The left wing canon goes:
Marx and Engles-Lenin-Stalin-Hoxha-Mao.

Obviously read other people, but don't waste time on random leftcoms, anarchists and liberals that never actually did anything first.

>> No.11626777

>>11626757
Too be honest, I'd even say start reading Stalin first. His works about the others are all accurate and he had a much more straight forward writing style than Marx and Lenin that I think most people will enjoy.

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I just wanted to post this somewhere

>> No.11627603

>>11616368
reflections on violence by Georges Sorel

>> No.11627965

>>11626757
>>11626777
fucking embarrassing, thanks for making the left look bad.

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>>11626757
>>11626777
>Read the psuedo-learning of despots who papered over their absolutism with political science

>> No.11628264

"As Many Dildos As There Are Stars in the Sky"
"I Need Feminism"
"Free Lube Means True Freedom"
You can find these at most Antifa tables

>> No.11628284

>>11617071
I read Anti-Oedipus and learned absolutely nothing and didn't understand a single paragraph. What did I do wrong?

>> No.11628857

Marx, Zizek, and for fucks sake please read Debord (after Marx)

>> No.11628911

>>11628284
you went into it cold. you're supposed to read some Lacan or Spinoza before reading Deleuze/Guattari. you gotta have some background before jumping into it

>> No.11628937

>>11628911
By "reading some", what books you mean, anon?

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>>11624319
>Cato Institute

>> No.11629670

>>11626757
Don't waste time on anti-communist fucks like Stalin, Hoxha, and Mao.

>> No.11630050 [DELETED] 

>>11629670
NOT REAL COMMUNIST GUYS!!!

>> No.11630182

>>11620544
t. BHL

>> No.11630373

>>11630050
it's true doe

>> No.11631497 [DELETED] 

>>11630373
It isn't though.

>> No.11632823 [DELETED] 

BHL?

>> No.11632837 [DELETED] 

>>11630182
BHL??

>> No.11632988

>>11630373
>>11631497
The problem of a society with communist aspirations being co-opted by tyranny is something that needs to be addressed for it to be more than a meme ideology.

>> No.11633026

>>11632988
China seems to be alright these days for the most part, censorship aside. Though I suppose that too doesn't count thanks to their newfound capitalism, but whatever

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>>11633026
Hey Nick Land, you haven't been blogging much lately, is everything ok there?

>> No.11633764

>>11633026
Only took millions to die before they liberalised

>> No.11633813

>>11616368
the bible

>> No.11633840

>>11631497
how to spot the guy who never read Marx

>> No.11633843

>>11628937
p much anything. you just can't go into advanced psychoanalysis without reading the more introductory shit first. that is, Lacan especially. Or Freud in all his craziness.

>> No.11633877 [DELETED] 

>>11633840
>how to spot the guy who never read Marx
How to spot the actual guy who never read Marx.

>> No.11633927

>>11633877
>how to spot the guy who never read Marx
>How to spot the actual guy who never read Marx.
How to spot the actual actual guy who never read Marx

>> No.11635014 [DELETED] 

>>11633927
>how to spot the guy who never read Marx
>How to spot the actual guy who never read Marx.
>How to spot the actual actual guy who never read Marx
How to spot the actual actual actual guy who never read Marx

>> No.11635023

>>11635014
>how to spot the guy who never read Marx
>How to spot the actual guy who never read Marx.
>How to spot the actual actual guy who never read Marx
>How to spot the actual actual actual guy who never read Marx
How to spot the actual actual actual actual guy who never read Marx

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>>11635023

>> No.11636120 [DELETED] 

>>11635104
What is the context behind this lol?