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/lit/ BTFO

>> No.11601331

>>11601317
>well infinate jest and Joyce can't be read by everybody
>Faulkner

Reeeeeeeeeee

>> No.11601346

What's wrong with Herman Koch's The Dinner?

>> No.11601347

I'm not offended that some plebs couldn't finish/comprehend IJ, Light in August and Ulysses, they're snob books at the end of the day and most people don't want to invest that much effort into reading a book.

That Dan Brown book belongs there though.

>> No.11601351

>>11601317
seems like a weird thing for a library to have

>> No.11601377

>>11601317
Swift was right once again.
RIP JKT

>> No.11601379

I'm always amazed at how willing bookstore employees are to expose themselves as idiots.

>> No.11601381

>>11601317
>gibs'ment funded library hates The Fountainhead
Just lol. Says it all, really.

>> No.11601390

How could anyone hate Confederacy of Dunces?

>> No.11601393

Most of those do belong there, especially Gatsby

>> No.11601396

Capitalism's homogenising effect is so strong that even when people attempt to give a list of products they HATE, they still produce a list basically identical to some other randomised skim of books people LOVE, because fundamentally the people selected for polling will (a) have all read the same things, (b) have no standards, and (c) will base their decision on "This popular thing that people like, well I DIDN'T like it! It just wasn't for me!" which is a fundamentally massified and consumerized relationship to culture

But if you're passably intelligent and your brain actually works and you've even somehow escaped the anal torture of modern Youtube culture and read more books than you were forced to in high school and by some hipster faggot on /lit/, that is if you somehow magically have actual taste in this culture, you will walk by this stand and incorrectly project real opinions produced by real minds onto the people who were polled for what to include in the stand. You will assume "I bet some people fucking HATED Infinite Jest," or "I bet people HATE Ayn Rand," or "I bet people with taste like myself were revolted by Dan Brown!" or "I bet people hated this shallow flash in the pan filth book that was only popular with housewives!" but that's only because you don't realize: The people who hated Infinite Jest know "of" it, and don't know it in any intimate way. Most didn't even read it, but wanted to feel involved in and participate in the activity of being the kind of guy who totally hates Infinite Jest, which is an archetype just stable enough to be visible to the bestial status-seeking algorithms that litter a prole's heads-up display as he navigates a confusing world full of sugared turds to eat that are literally indigestible and seem hypersaccharine in East Asian cultures fortunate enough to not have been raised on corn syrup. The people who hated Ayn Rand know that Hating Ayn Rand is an activity that you perform when you want your Facebook "Things I Like" biography to be more complete so people can know you're the kind of person who hates Ayn Rand, that libertarian LOL her PROSE is so bad and she's SOCIOPATHIC! The people who hate Dan Brown know that DAN BROWN IS FOR PLEBS and I don't want to be a pleb. I only read sophisticated things, such as, Books I Read in High School. The people who hated the housewives books are housewives who exclusively read books exactly like that when Oprah tells them to read those books, and then once in a while they "You know what? I didn't like this book, y'all! #fierce" as a playful Maussian social game in their potlatch circle with their disgusting cunt friends.

If you are a real person, you pass by that book stand and you think you're surrounded by real people and the books were selected by real people for you to look at. But there would be more humanity in the selection if it had been done by chimps. At least chimps have organic social relations.

>> No.11601400

>>11601317
Okay, now this is epic

>> No.11601408

what is the book to the left of lovely bones?

>> No.11601413

>>11601396
based

>> No.11601415

>>11601408
great expectations

>> No.11601417

>>11601396
this but based and redpilled

>> No.11601418

>>11601317
Look at how smart I think it makes me to put classics on the hated shelf: the list

>> No.11601425

hehe didn't see this one coming did you, christians?
that's right...
I've put your BIBLE in the FICTION section!!!!!!!
bwaaahahaha what now?

>> No.11601428

>>11601396
best post in this thread forever
best post on /lit/ I've seen in a while

>> No.11601430

>>11601415
thanks. i need to start reading dickens.

>> No.11601455

>>11601390
If you're a female/feminist you probably wouldn't appreciate the way any of the women really are portrayed in the book

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>>11601317

>> No.11601470

>>11601317
>Light in August
Oh come on, that's easy-tier Faulkner.

>> No.11601474

>>11601347
The Lost Symbol is the worst in the series.

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11601482

>>11601396
Holy Fuck B A S E D

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11601524

>>11601396
Cheers

>> No.11601553

>>11601425
>Places Atlas Shrugged in Children's section

>> No.11601560

>>11601317
/lit/ doesn't embrace DFW
That's only the undergrad English Majors whose professors told them it was good.
No surprise a high IQ student would be disgusted with it.

>> No.11601564
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11601564

>>11601396
Someone please screenshot this.

>> No.11601566

>>11601396
A long post on lit that was actually worth the read

>> No.11601573

>>11601455
Forgot about this lol.
>why you no smile pussycat?

>> No.11601577

>>11601317
>Dan Brown
>The Notebook
>Bridges of Madison County
At least there are a few librarian associates with discerning taste.

>> No.11601586

>>11601317
I guarantee that person did not read the Fountainhead

>> No.11601594

>>11601396
thanks mate i feel better now

>> No.11601595

>>11601317
Delet this right now.

>> No.11601605

>>11601396
>organic social relations
?

>> No.11601693

>>11601396
This is why I come to /lit/.

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>>11601396
It's almost like some good works are divisive or smoething woah

>> No.11601776

>>11601430
Start with a Tale of Two Cities. If you don't love him after that then I just saved you a lot of time.

>> No.11601777

>>11601317
Define "we"

>> No.11601781

>>11601317
please be fake

>> No.11601788

>>11601396
Beautiful

>> No.11601801

>>11601396
I have to admit, Tao really hit it out of the park with this one!

>> No.11601813

>>11601390
I kinda understand where the person is coming from. The crazy antics can get old after awhile, and the story doesn't really go anywhere, and is just one joke after another.

>> No.11601842 [DELETED] 

Might has well hang that sign up above the store's entrance

>> No.11601858

Might as well hang that sign up above the store's entrance

>> No.11601867

>>11601813
Lacking a sense of humor is perhaps the only way anyone could hate this book

>> No.11602207

>>11601425
>be me
>banned from local bookstore for three months for putting bibles in the fiction section
>my brain is larger than average so I can not be sated by the mindless frivolities of television and internet memes
>I hunger and thirst for knowledge
>must buy more books
>WWEDD? (What Would Edmond Dantes Do)
>assemble disguise
>heavy wool coat, brimmed, tattered hat, fake Twain-esque moustache, walk with a cane
>enter store
>store manager who banned me (and also stole my qt gf by hypnotizing her with his eastern philosophy claptrap) is there, observing the store from his meditative perch behind the counter
>go to philosophy section
>select Lawrence Krauss’s ‘Universe from Nothing’, Dawkins’s ‘The Selfish Gene’, and Hitch’s ‘The Portable Atheist’
>discreetly move one of the Bibles to the fiction section…my calling card
>approach counter slowly with a limp. Young woman cashier. Manager eyes me curiously.
>“Hello young lady. Might you ring these up for me?”
>“Certainly, sir.”
>“Interesting selection, sir.” The manager speaks softly from his perch, his arms crossed.
>“Ah, yes. I like to expand my horizons with other ideas.”
>“Noble,” the manager says, still looking at me suspiciously.
>I pay and take my books.
>As I reach the exit, I turn to the cashier and the manager.
>I remove my hat and moustache and let my coat fall to the floor
>“It was I all along. God is dead. And now I must bid you adieu!”
>I pull on the door handle but you have to push for it to open
>manager almost catches me
>As I flee I hear the cashier say ‘He cute’

>> No.11602219

>>11601379
they come in to work everyday, don't they?

>> No.11602224

>>11601396
Overrated post tbqh

>> No.11602234

>>11601396
When are we going to publish a collection of /lit/ posts critiquing modernity?

>> No.11602248

>>11602207
>>I pull on the door handle but you have to push for it to open
every time

>> No.11602250

>>11601396
Reading this in Zizek's voice is quite entertaining.

>> No.11602259
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>>11601396
>
Here is the image if anyone wants to save it to their meme/reaction folider

>> No.11602266

>>11601317
Confederacy of Dunces is based, easily my favorite book.

Ulysses is 4/10, Joyce makes himself intentionally hard to read. It's not art, it's being difficult for difficulty's sake. With that said, I do appreciate the lyrical prose.

The Fountainhead is trash.

The Great Gatsby is high school required reading tier.

Faulkner is just fucking unreadable.

Haven't picked up the rest.

>> No.11602335

What an odd thing to have.

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>>11602259
Added OP for context.

>> No.11602371

>>11602335
It probably gets more attention that a "Books we Love" shelf desu

>> No.11602381

>>11602371
Oh I'm sure.

>> No.11602394

>>11601379
Pretty sure it's a library and not a book store.

>> No.11602409

>>11602224
cringe

>> No.11602488

>confederacy of dunces

SACRILEGE

>> No.11602510

>>11602370
>>11602259
You Reddit bastards are the worst.

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11602514

>>11601317

>Emma is bad because the protagonist is a bitch

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11602524

>>11601317
>Confederacy of Dunces

>> No.11602533

>>11602510
Screencapping and reposting good posts has been a tradition of 4chan for many years, newfag.

>> No.11602536
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11602536

>>11602224
The post is essentially pic related. You really have to be up your own ass, elitist and a non-empathetic edgelord to believe a word of that contradictory and worthless post.

>> No.11602542

>implying IJ was ever /lit/
In the words of Schopenhauer, "Bad books are intellectual poison; they destroy the mind.".

This perfectly describes the worthless piece of literature that is Infinity Jest.
It is the ramblings of some woe-is-me pretentious, arrogant, child of two professors, David Foster Wallace.

You can measure a work by the life of its author.

You know that kid you didn't like at university?
The parents bought the boy a new car, he never worked a day in his life, and merely was able to get good grades simply because they told him it was important.
Then, he tries to be down to earth and pretends to know the struggle, by wearing bland clothing or something to distinguish him from his erudite hobnob parents. That is David Foster Wallace.

He goes on to fail at philosophy, writing post-modernist drivel but to his credit, recognizes this and switches to writing. The writing unfortunately, gained more acclaim than it should have. Likely made possible by his parents, their friends, and connections. Otherwise, his first novel would have never seen the light of day.
Mr. Wallace lived an insulated life, one with pats on the back from fellow academics, and most importantly his parents.
He knew he was fraud, which is why he killed himself.

Unless you enjoy the meaningless work of a man who never knew struggle in his life, then you would best "Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"

>> No.11602550

>>11602542
It's not copypasta material. It's not funny enough, it's just the ramblings of a pretentious retard. There's also no need to post it again when it was created in a thread only yesterday or so.

>> No.11602555

>Ayn Rand
How fucking dare you.

>> No.11602562

>>11601317
I respect no one that doesn't like The Great Gatsby. That includes you who is currently typing a reply.

>> No.11602573

>>11601317
>Great Expectations

I want to strangle this person

>> No.11602576

>>11601396
based

>> No.11602580

>>11601396
Based

>> No.11602589

>>11601430
Read Pickwick Papers first, his best work.

>> No.11602593

>>11601396
communist detected

>> No.11602640

>>11601396
actually a pretty interesting read.

>> No.11602677

>>11602593
>finding fault in capitalism = communist

No, brainlet

>> No.11602681

>>11602677
if you don't have capitalism then you have communism idiot

>> No.11602715

>>11601396
10/10.

Made me look up Mauss, and the use of swearing was top-notch.

>> No.11602769

>>11601396
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASED

>> No.11602794

>>11601867
The jokes really aren't that funny. Most of them boil down to "Oh man, Ignatius sure is fat and self-important!" As someone who is more than willing to laugh at the proto-neckbeard, I find the book's comedic style falls flat.

I'm reading I Am a Cat and that also has characters who are the butt of the joke due to their odd behavior, self-aggrandizement, and ineptitude, but the things they say, create, and do are funny in and of themselves.

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11602802

>>11602681
>There are only two forms of social-economic order

>>11602794
Shut up neckbeard, Confederacy of Dunces is pure kino

>> No.11602812

>>11602802
Confederacy of Dunces is invariably appreciated by retards
I have not read it

>> No.11602814

>>11601390
Thought the same thing

>> No.11602820

>>11601396
This basically explains why some of the top rated reviews of IJ and Ulysses on Goodreads are so negative.

>> No.11602844

>>11601317
>faulker
I agree

>> No.11602861

>>11601396
The most troubling part of this post is the way its dozens of responses only further exemplify its claim.

>> No.11602942 [DELETED] 

>>11602224
this, who's with me

>> No.11602955

>>11602861
Kek you got me laughed.

>> No.11602983

>>11601317
>shelf not exclusively WOC authors
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.11602999

>>11601396
how many layers of existential crisis are you on friend?

>> No.11603006

>>11601396
holy moly based

>> No.11603008

>>11602861
And the responses that this post will garner will also exemplify its claim.

>> No.11603012

>>11602942
Me. It seems like it was written by a zoomer who is always overthinking basic human interaction.
>How can I turn this bookstore display into a self aggrandizing critique of capitalism???

>> No.11603025

>>11602861
And yours will add further testimony

>> No.11603033

>>11602861
Exactly, a bunch of people think they're smarter than they are.

>> No.11603038

How could you hate Great Expectations?

>> No.11603125

>>11602861
And the responses from your post will tell the same tale

>> No.11603128

>>11602861
I have no doubt that the people responding to this post further prove his claim

>> No.11603136

>>11603038
Maybe his expectations were too great

>> No.11603153

>>11601396
Impressive how much you wrote to say asbolutely nothing. I fucking hate you all

>> No.11603304

>>11603125
at least those will have a conscious level of irony

>> No.11603484

>>11601396
Someone just posted this on /pol/, FYI. Proof that /pol/ browses /lit/.

>> No.11603508

>>11603484
>Proof that /pol/ browses /lit/.
as if the twenty daily threads about how much the jews are ruining their lives wasn't?

>> No.11603525

>>11603484
Which thread?

>> No.11603534

that shelf looks like one of those "essential x-core" lists that every board makes for their related media. except those are always ironic.

>> No.11603561

>>11601396
>they didn't even read the book and voted that they hated it
>REEEEEEEEEE

is this what passes as a based proclamation on /lit/?

>> No.11603573

>>11601317
why is that a shelf?

>> No.11603879

>>11601396
Unironically based

>> No.11603909

>>11602942
Everyone who's not new

>> No.11604157

>>11601390

Started reading it in january but haven't touched it in half a year. Maybe it's funnier if you know all the places but it's just an arrogant neet who doesn't do much. It definitely didn't age well because nowadays we have way too many people like that.

>> No.11604195

>>11601418
Is just
>>11601396
Without the filler

>> No.11604201

>>11603038
>You know Miss Havisham, I think the real great expectations were the friends we made along the way
Cringeworthy shit

>> No.11604205

>>11601560
Lol is this post implying that /lit/ is high IQ?

>> No.11604210

>>11602536
But one person in that image is right.

>> No.11604212

>>11602542
>You can measure a work by the life of its author.
Stopped reading there.

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>>11602861
I am only trying to look smart so my response only further exemplify its claim.

>> No.11604236

>>11602942
Lol you fucking idiot high quality posting starts up again and your so shallow all you can do is complain. Maybe you liked harshly judging lit, but when it starts coming back into high quality posts don't reflect it through a decision process of "a lot of people like it so I'm gonna dislike it".

>> No.11604259

>>11601776
>>11602589
So which one should I read first then?

>> No.11604278

>>11602207
cute

>> No.11604281

>>11601390
I don't like it because I'm probably a bit like Ignatius, even though i'm not a fat cunt. I'd rather read about distant, bleak, and inspiring things than the wacky antics of the common man. Own your ignatius-ness and be proud of it. You're still becoming, and ancient literature/philosophy has plenty of material to help with that, even if it is a creature comfort, even if it colors your perception of modernity with a little darkness and decadence. remember he still gets a gf in the end of the book. It's a work of personal redemption, not an indictment of that lifestyle and it's not bad for what it is -- but I still don't like reading books so indelibly infused with the stuff of the modern world.

>> No.11604300

>>11601351
this. Although it seems to work quite well as a source for what to read

>> No.11604315

>>11601396

based

I am the kind of high-taste person who responds to this kind of post with 'based'

>> No.11604344

Nothing says "bugman" to me like someone with ranked preferential tastes, knowing they keep a poset like that in their head such that P is the set of books they've read equipped with a binary relation a ≤ b that obeys reflexivity, antisymmetry and transitivity.

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>>11604223
He's in

>> No.11604702

>>11601317
>Richard Ford
Fuck all of y'all, the only writer from my alma mater to not be trash, how dare they

>> No.11604711

>>11601396
>capitalism
It's merely being a part of the lower class and pretending to be human.

>> No.11604721

>>11601346
>What's wrong with Herman Koch's The Dinner?
Maybe they were disappointed that it wasn't a cookbook?

>> No.11604736

>>11603008
I think you're conflating genuine discussion and identity-centric discussion. I believe this because I believe it, and not due to the belief's ramifications on my stated group in society or its consumer group. The latter would be difficult in an anonymous sense but if I responded with a DFW meme you could make a case that I'm seeking to ingrain myself into the fabric of /lit/ and thus making this my identity group. Shockingly easy to make everything about identity when everything is said by someone

>> No.11604739

>>11601396
It would be a kino post if the paperbacks didn’t shows signs of being used

>> No.11604741

>>11601346
It's absolute garbage; the characters are bad, their motivations are bad, it's just about little shits thinking they can do whatever they want just because they're rich

>> No.11605383

>>11601396
*snap*

>> No.11605393

>>11601317
>Inferno - Dan Brown
Belongs on that shelf.
>The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald
Obviously put there by a dumb high schooler.
>Light in August - William Faulkner
>Ulysses - James Joyce
>A Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole
Probably put there by pleb college kids.

>> No.11605437

>>11601317
Really surprised no one put any of Trump's books on that shelf.

>> No.11605498

>>11601396
well done

>> No.11606032

>>11602224
Agreed. Seems like this board gets easily impressed by long responses. Not a good sign for a literature board.

>> No.11606282

>>11602861
This is a respectable notion, but fourchan aims for a mess of fragmented ideas instead of perfect ideas, they won’t listen to you because they are ignorant like a social justice warrior is.
>>11602542

>> No.11606291

>>11606032
Why do you think everyone here jizzes over the 1,000 page Infinite Jest that even they admit doesn't get "good" until around 300 pages.

>> No.11606307

>>11601317
Wtf I hate reading now

>> No.11606323

>>11606291
I haven't read it but that would still mean that the greater part of the book is good

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>>11601413
>>11601417
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>>11601566
>>11601594
>>11601605
>>11601693
>>11601482
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>>11602234
>>11602250
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>>11602769
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>>11602820
>>11603006
>>11602999
>>11602820
>>11603879
>>11604315
>>11605498
thought we got rid of you commies

>>11605383
based

>> No.11606357 [DELETED] 

>>11604236
the post didnt even make fucking sense

>> No.11606542

>>11601317
Literally faulkers best accessible work. why

>> No.11606705

>>11601317
>Ulysses
>Confederacy of Dunces

Only ones i'm truly offended with.

>> No.11606734

>>11602861
It's like this is cynically reductive or something.

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>>11601396

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>>11601317
>A Confederacy of Dunces

>> No.11606800

>>11601396
is this the god of /lit/?

>> No.11606807

>>11606767
jesus christ ive never seen the whole thing before. what a literal child

>> No.11606811

>>11606807
>implying channels like that aren't viral marketing

come on now

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>> No.11606836

>>11601317
Can you imagine? Someone went to this stand that encourages the public to add books they hated, this someone also posts on /lit/, and decided to place /lit/ approved books on this stand, take a picture of it, and then post it on /lit/ with the intention of trolling.

Can you imagine someone would actually do that?

>> No.11606837

>>11606807
I'm actually frightened at how angry I became when watching it.

>> No.11607169

>>11602942
Literally keked at this

>> No.11607214

>>11601317
One of you Iowa anons needs to go there and add the Iliad, Gravity's Rainbow and Brothers Karamazov and then it will be perfect.

>> No.11607222

>>11601396
A big example for this is Bukowski. Everyone loves to hate on him but barely anyone has even read him.

>> No.11607229

>>11601396
>reads Gramsci's Prison Notebooks once

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>>11601396
No one can escape the big Other

>> No.11607261

>>11601396
Dumb /tv/ crossboarder here. Can someone tell me what this means in layman's terms.

>> No.11607268

>>11607261
They think its all Sneed but it was formerly Chuck

>> No.11607764
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>>11601396
Terrific post that will elevate the entire /lit/ board to a level it hasn't been for years for as long as this thread stays alive. Thank you, anon. You are a gift.

>> No.11607765

op probably work in a public library and did that to get replies to his thread

>> No.11607846

>>11601317
outrageous but the ones that belong there absolutely belong there

>> No.11607848

>>11601396
What are some books about this?

>> No.11607877

>>11601317
I was fine up until Ulysses. Then I wanted to start eating whoever picked it first with the eyes, they are probably the most repulsive part of the human body but as they say, eat your frogs first.

>> No.11607898

>>11601396
damn that's depressing

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>>11601396
>At least chimps have organic social relations.

look at these devilmen who use computers to summon demons.

>> No.11608011

>>11606291
booklet detected.

>> No.11608018

>>11601396
here to make my pilgrimage to the great post

>> No.11608156

>>11601396
based and redpilled.
this is why i still come to this shithole website.

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>>11601317
Magnificent troll/bait OP. Epic and legendary in nature. I present the pic related for the entire thread. It seems everyone needs it.

>> No.11608202

>>11607941
I curse has been put on me by devilmen! I am too insane to resist! I must bet on numbers assigned on me by computers in order to override Infinite Jest becoming a best-seller in the United States of America!

>> No.11608204

>>11601396
Holy fuck BASED

>> No.11608237

>>11607848
Bleeding Edge

>> No.11608283

>>11601396
What the fuck, was expecting a good post due to the number of replies, but just trite remarks. Overrated.

>> No.11608299

>>11601396
I don't know, what if the person read the book and hated it? Also can't we also put your post into a similar pigeonhole of a playful Maussian social game.

>> No.11608319

>>11601317
>Gatsby
I'll bet all the money in my name that an angsty high schooler put that book there because he had to read it for class.

>> No.11608330

>>11601396
>uhh fuckin uhhhhhhh uhhhhhhhhhh masscult? uhhhh
>'phonies bad'
take a lap bozo

>> No.11608428

>>11601317
THIS IS MY LIBRARY TOO! I saw this shit here yesterday.

>> No.11608688

>>11601396
>Capitalism's homogenising effect is so strong that even when people attempt to give a list of products they HATE, they still produce a list basically identical to some other randomised skim of books people LOVE, because fundamentally the people selected for polling will (a) have all read the same things, (b) have no standards, and (c) will base their decision on "This popular thing that people like, well I DIDN'T like it! It just wasn't for me!" which is a fundamentally massified and consumerized relationship to culture
>But if you're passably intelligent and your brain actually works and you've even somehow escaped the anal torture of modern Youtube culture and read more books than you were forced to in high school and by some hipster faggot on /lit/, that is if you somehow magically have actual taste in this culture, you will walk by this stand and incorrectly project real opinions produced by real minds onto the people who were polled for what to include in the stand. You will assume "I bet some people fucking HATED Infinite Jest," or "I bet people HATE Ayn Rand," or "I bet people with taste like myself were revolted by Dan Brown!" or "I bet people hated this shallow flash in the pan filth book that was only popular with housewives!" but that's only because you don't realize: The people who hated Infinite Jest know "of" it, and don't know it in any intimate way. Most didn't even read it, but wanted to feel involved in and participate in the activity of being the kind of guy who totally hates Infinite Jest, which is an archetype just stable enough to be visible to the bestial status-seeking algorithms that litter a prole's heads-up display as he navigates a confusing world full of sugared turds to eat that are literally indigestible and seem hypersaccharine in East Asian cultures fortunate enough to not have been raised on corn syrup. The people who hated Ayn Rand know that Hating Ayn Rand is an activity that you perform when you want your Facebook "Things I Like" biography to be more complete so people can know you're the kind of person who hates Ayn Rand, that libertarian LOL her PROSE is so bad and she's SOCIOPATHIC! The people who hate Dan Brown know that DAN BROWN IS FOR PLEBS and I don't want to be a pleb. I only read sophisticated things, such as, Books I Read in High School. The people who hated the housewives books are housewives who exclusively read books exactly like that when Oprah tells them to read those books, and then once in a while they "You know what? I didn't like this book, y'all! #fierce" as a playful Maussian social game in their potlatch circle with their disgusting cunt friends.
>If you are a real person, you pass by that book stand and you think you're surrounded by real people and the books were selected by real people for you to look at. But there would be more humanity in the selection if it had been done by chimps. At least chimps have organic social relations.

that's just like your opinion man

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>>11607261
"plebs gonna pleb"

>> No.11608836

>>11601390
The ending sucked

>> No.11608839

>>11602861
Let me assist in giving your own post similar attributes.

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>>11606767
I hate the onions meme, but this is epic

>> No.11609152

>>11601317
Take some books on feminism and racial issues (or lgbt etc.), put them there, take a pic, post it online and wait.

>> No.11609584

>>11608688
and? of course it is his opinion you shitstain
why do these "people" use this buzzword as an argument

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>>11601396
add me to the upvote compilation

>> No.11609643

>>11601317
>i went to my local library in my fly over state
>put all the books lit said where good in the artbitrary 'books we hated' display
>that will sure to btfo lit and find me really funny and randum

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>>11609643
literally the /lit/ equivalent of consolewar shitposting

>> No.11609660

>>11606767

>mfw Tyrone struggles to slide all 10 inches of black meat into my wife

>> No.11609674

>>11601396
my friend, thank you for this post, you've even managed to rankle some of the oneupmanship pseuds towards the end of this thread

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>>11601396

>> No.11610187

>>11601396
Holy... I want more.

>> No.11610210

>>11609659
still more games than a ps3

>> No.11610809

>>11601396
You aight /lit/boy.

>> No.11610883

>>11601396
Please include me in the screencap in a performative act so people know I'm the kind of guy who loves this post

>> No.11610964

>>11601396
if you put me in the screen cap I'll post a pic of me peeing in my own butt later

>> No.11611177

>>11601396
DON'T put me in the screencap.

>> No.11611188

>>11611177
Good call

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>>11601396
Capatilism btfo

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>>11601396
Hmmm

>> No.11611251

>>11601560
None of my professors had ever read IJ. Where the fuck do you people go to school

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You deserve Holodomor.

>> No.11611417

>>11611297
kys retard

>> No.11611428

>>11611201
he won't include you in the screencap if you act like that

>> No.11611529

>>11601396
look how many times this guy replied to himself

>> No.11611926

>>11601396
Bugs ,easy on the carrots

>> No.11612127

>>11606837
obviously projecting for some failure of your own

>> No.11612161

>>11601396
The fact that people actually think this is a good post and worthy of admiration, shows me that /lit/ is in fact a board filled to the brim with the very same people you just described so lovingly. Empty husks who are not what they are but what they identify as.

>> No.11612178

>>11601396
I'm only replaying to participate in the archetypical bestial status-seeking algorithms that litter my heads-up display

>> No.11612701

>>11612161
90% sure that post was ridiculing the troglodytes who identify with it.

>> No.11612834

>>11601396
Have you ever thought that intelligence greatly inhibits organic interactions? Social constructs are partially based on intelligence, as well as the many other factors that put these books on that shelf.

I argue that, the shelf is not worth getting upset over.

>> No.11612855

>>11602266
Your opinion is trash

>> No.11612979

>>11601396
I don't even read a lot, and definitely not by /lit/ standards.

So it's clear there is a lot of pretending in any social environment. If we were completely honest with each other, would we spend that much money on things like cars, fashion or make-up?

However, it just feels so hard for people (me) to "live" it. Being happy for instance is something your brain chemistry is responsible for. And you could be happy to the same degree a number of ways. Yet, many of us program ourselves to follow "careers", dreams other people (influencers, politicians, economists, etc.) made up, without really questioning if we're on the right path.

And even when questioning things -- the easier response is the one that goes with the flow.

>> No.11613338

>>11601396
>>11607268
based

>> No.11613413

>>11601396
>you will walk by this stand and incorrectly project real opinions produced by real minds
you need more sales resistance, why do people like you always have such little of it?
>that superficial vain desperately insincere scramble for attention isnt organic or natural
its the natural end result of homo sapien collectivist psychological profile combined with mass sedentaryism

>> No.11613767

>>11601317
Lol my professor is on that shelf. Probably because he hates Franzen and the bookstore staff like their milquetoast degenerate realism

>> No.11613797

>>11601317
Why would I place that wants people to feel good about reading and be quite and not annoyed with other people have a shelf for books people hated?
What the fuck?
Where is this? WHAT EVEN IS THIS???

>> No.11613823

>>11602562
Reminder that Gatsby was used to deliberately annoy an audience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdVgdVMPIs8

>> No.11613888

>>11601396
wow a whole lotta words to say nothing

>> No.11614174

>>11612127
What's the appropriate response then, o wise objective laddioso? Watching that video made me a little disgruntled at society, am I incorrect due to my projecting disgruntlement?

>> No.11614177

>>11601396
Overrated post, but here's your (you) I guess.

>> No.11614259

>>11601317
Guaranteed no one who put any big titles on that shelf actually read either the book they placed there nor any book.

>> No.11614436

>>11601396
Capitalism has not promoted banality through homogenization; rather, it has allowed for the propagation of banality that has always existed by expanding access to "high art." What you really take issue with is the nature of Mass Man, not the economic system in which he is integrated.

>> No.11614478

>>11612161
>>11612701
also 90% sure that it was samefagging until a few basedboys started trickling in

>> No.11614759

>>11611297
That comment isn't pro-commie lol. They literally defend Ayn Rand

>> No.11614819

>>11614759
Its not pro or anti-Rand, its that people who put that book on the shelf haven't read Rand or IJ and are merely substituting a personality by saying they hated these books.

>> No.11614859

>>11601317
10/10 trolling

>> No.11615129

>>11614174
the proper response is not getting butthurt about some random video on the internet of a guy who is excited about something. If you buy into memes literally you've gone too far

>> No.11615136

>>11601396
>Society has formed opinions that people agree with over time

woah dude

>> No.11615138

>>11601396
A bunch of meaningless word salad. I could also write a wall of text that sounds smart but utterly means nothing. This is why communists need to stop giving their opinions on things.

>> No.11615139

>>11604210
None of them are right anon

>> No.11615141

>>11614759
I'm pretty sure it touches on Gramsci's (maybe Adorno too) critique of capitalism culture.

>> No.11615288

>>11601396
Possibly the most substantive post I've seen in /lit/ for a while, thank you.

>> No.11615299

>>11615288
try spending more than a week here before making such judgements

>> No.11615319

>>11601346
I read it in Dutch and didn't think it was much. But then again I'm not a fan of Koch anyway

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>>11601396

>> No.11616151

>>11601396
based and redpilled

>> No.11616184

>>11601396
ABsolutely fucking destroyed

>> No.11616205

>>11615319
>if you ain't dutch
>you ain't much

>> No.11616208

>>11612127
Oh, not at all. I think it's fairly normal to become enraged when seeing an adult man behave like a fucking child, especially in a matter concerning a cartoon.

>> No.11616253

>>11616208
>damage control

You may tell yourself that you think that's normal, but we both know that it's not ;)

>> No.11616265

>>11611297
>any slight critique of mindless consumerist culture is an implicit defense of leninism

literature for this feel?

>> No.11616303

>>11601396
You're dead on. A couple of years back when people wanted to tell you what they didn't like they would say "Justin Bieber".
Simply because he's in earshot, not because they actually listened to music for music's sake. Sure there is the argument to be made that this person does geniunely not like Justin Bieber (cough cough, his producer's) on the radio, but if you listen to void that appears after that often enough you'll realize they weren't actually listening at all. Hell if someone came up to you and said "I don't like Issac Hayes." you would expect a follow up, but mentioning someone like Justin Bieber assumes that you know all you need to know, much like when a person get's a tramp stamp it simply dilutes investigation into small talk for the sake of novice-like conversation by people who know full well, deep down, right to the bitter end, that they are society's bitch for not sticking their head out into the open field where the snipers are (and yet where the fruit of life is born from).

>> No.11616313

>>11601317
I bet these guys read Twilight.

>> No.11616339

>>11601317

I agree with them on Infinite Jest. It was a turgid, self-indulgent turd of a novel, with the humor of a second rate Simpsons episode and ideas cribbed from Sparks Notes on Thomas Pynchon.

>> No.11616347

>>11616303
>le everybody's stupid but me lolz

>> No.11616348

>>11601553
>places Das Kapital in politics section

>> No.11616358

>>11601396
DFW Is that you

>> No.11616406

>>11602207
>WWEDD? (What Would Edmond Dantes Do)
I live by this

>> No.11616415

>>11616347
If that's what you get from that post then I am truly sorry.

>> No.11616512

>>11616415
do better next time

>> No.11616515

>>11616348
>places Mein Kampf in the humor section

>> No.11616516

>>11616512
I think you replied to the wrong post

>> No.11616524

>>11616516
nope

>> No.11616528

>>11616524
What should I "do better" then?

>> No.11616533

>>11616528
you want me to wipe your ass while im at it too?

>> No.11616540

>>11616533
Useless post.

>> No.11616563

>>11616540
cry harder

>> No.11616579

>>11601396
I feel like I’m part of something.

>> No.11616591

>>11616579
yeah, a polfag invasion

>> No.11616614

>>11616591
I was already here, actually. I wouldn’t have responded to the post if it didn’t already have a ton of responses though.

>> No.11616661

>>11601396
so you're telling me there's a chance

>> No.11616681

>>11602224
i believe it is samefagging

>> No.11616705

>>11601396
Legendary post.

>> No.11616787

>>11601396
do you think he regrets making this post?
that he revealed the extent of his genius too early on and now has to live with the fact that his peak will always be that 4chan post he made in a bait thread of Infinite Meme being hated by used bookstore clerks?

>> No.11616796

>>11601396
You aren't wrong but capitalism hardly has anything to do with it

>> No.11616835

>>11606291
you're an idiot and wrong though. infinite jest seems to get good because thats about how long it takes for someone to learn how to read it. once you read it again, those first 300 pages are amazing.
>>11601396
this reads like somone read too much dfw and really wanted to sound like him and write something profound. you could have cut out everything after the first sentence desu

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All me btw
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>> No.11616899

>>11616855
BASED POST
REDPILLED
INTERESTING
WHOOOAHHH GOOD POST

>> No.11616909

>>11616899
Thanks. Follow me on Twitter @kantbot20k.

>> No.11616939

>>11601317
>hating light in august
TRIGGERED

>> No.11617164

Iowafag here, going to visit this library and tailor it to trigger /lit/ even more. What should I add?

>> No.11617317

>>11616855
yikes

>> No.11617543

>>11601396
This but ironically.

>> No.11617564

@11601396

Whats the big idea?

>> No.11617577

>>11612178
based and redpilled

>> No.11617614

>>11601396
*Standing Ovation

>> No.11617987

>>11601396
Heartwrenchingly true

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>>11601396
>Most didn't even read it, but wanted to feel involved in and participate in the activity of being the kind of guy who totally hates Infinite Jest, which is an archetype just stable enough to be visible to the bestial status-seeking algorithms that litter a prole's heads-up display as he navigates a confusing world full of sugared turds to eat that are literally indigestible and seem hypersaccharine in East Asian cultures fortunate enough to not have been raised on corn syrup.

>> No.11618639

>>11601396
Waluigi is the ultimate example of the individual shaped by the signifier. Waluigi is a man seen only in mirror images; lost in a hall of mirrors he is a reflection of a reflection of a reflection. You start with Mario – the wholesome all Italian plumbing superman, you reflect him to create Luigi – the same thing but slightly less. You invert Mario to create Wario – Mario turned septic and libertarian – then you reflect the inversion in the reflection: you create a being who can only exist in reference to others. Waluigi is the true nowhere man, without the other characters he reflects, inverts and parodies he has no reason to exist. Waluigi’s identity only comes from what and who he isn’t – without a wider frame of reference he is nothing. He is not his own man. In a world where our identities are shaped by our warped relationships to brands and commerce we are all Waluigi.

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>>11601396
Include me in the screencap.

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>>11601396

>> No.11618980

>>11601396
based molochposter

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>>11606767
Why is it that we all hate him and other ones like him so much? I mean yeah, he is a manchild, but jesus I want to punch his teeth out of his face whenever I see him open his mouth like he's about to suck cock. And the worse part is that I don't even understand why I feel such a resentment towards him

>> No.11619390

>>11602536
>>11604210

Issue with that pic is that they each see thought as action. It's a tale of indecision and non-action.

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>>11601396

>> No.11619398

>>11601396

I'd walk past that book stand and think, wow that's an interesting manipulative tactic to get people to read those novels. Try it. Nobody does what other people recommend highly because it comes with expectations. Tell somebody something sucks. They'll likely read/do/watch it because they'll expect far less. It makes the experience more enjoyable.

>> No.11619705

>>11618639
underrated

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>>11601396
Based and redpilled

>> No.11619772

>>11619358
Because 4chan is a bitter, spiteful place, and has conditioned you to hate him

>> No.11619800

>>11601396
I don't understand all the hype, this all seems painfully obvious.

What is wrong with you people?

>>11618639
This is the only original post in the thread.

>> No.11619807

>>11601396
>some people are contrarians for the sake of being contrarians
Thanks for the wonderful insight faggot. Wish I could write verbose truisms and get 100+ replies and a screencap.

>> No.11619845

>>11619358
Because you feel jealous that he can show excitement for anything. You were socially manipulated by 4chan to act on hatred, anger, frustration, because that is the standard of the website and they could never possibly be wrong. You will probably rush to an excuse at how he's a "cuck, soi boi, faggot" band continue to indulge on your self-hatred.

>> No.11619981

>>11619845

Nah. This website has made me suspect he's either a shill doing viral marketing or is genuinely autistic. In both cases I'd rather he fucked off.

>> No.11620276

>>11601396
>They didnt even read it!

Heh, nice try homo.

>> No.11620323

>>11619981
So, literally what he said?

Chill out, kiddo