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Best book for an incoming poli sci major?

>> No.11597249

>polisci major
time to reroll the dice on your life kid, maybe next time youll come out interesting

>> No.11597252

>>11597249
whats wrong with polisci?

>> No.11597259

>>11597252
Everything.

>> No.11597278

>>11597252
I'd just spent a few hour each day on /pol/ and /sci/ and save myself the effort

Now an English Lang + Lit degree on the other hand, now that's worth it

>> No.11597459

>>11597252
Nothing.

>> No.11597607

>>11597252
It's a retarded major.
>but i'm gonna be lawman
Then major in Philosophy or English. Not only are they far more interesting than polisci, but they actually teach you reading, writing, and thinking skills that lawyers use every day.

>> No.11597623

>>11597252
Nothing. Its just a lot philosophy and literature types think contributing to real life is delusional.

>> No.11597628

>>11597278
kek

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>>11597623
>real life is delusional
Life is a delusion though?
Even if you run the wheel.
You remain in the cage.

>> No.11597649

>>11597634
>continues to live and rely on it

Everytime

>> No.11598214

Poli Sci is for virgins study International Relations that's where the pussy's at.

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>>11597252
The second a humanities subject tacks the label "science" on the end of their field is the second that field turns into shit.

>> No.11598518

>>11598214
This guy speaks the truth

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>> No.11598915

The Bible by God

>> No.11600104

>>11598915
This. Great piece of fiction.

>> No.11600820

>>11597245
Nothing in particular. They're going to teach you mostly neoliberalism with neoconservatism used as the antithesis. When I first started I was extremely /pol/ and it wasn't that bad. They don't try to examine you and brainwash you like some would have you believe. The "liberal brainwashing" is really just them teaching neoliberalism 99% of the time, meaning that uninformed people will probably come out with those same opinions. In fact I think a communist or a nationalist or any other heterodox political view gives one a better experience at university. It really makes you pay attention to what's going on. I guess it's because you have skin in the game; you can't just be indifferent to it. Some of your beliefs will change, some will be emboldened.

Having said that there is no particular book that will help you politically. I think there are books that can help motivate you. Look in books on the importance of justice. Plato in particular is pretty good. Religious jurisprudence might also be interesting.

>> No.11600933

>>11598528
pretty good list in all honesty

for OP i'd probably recommend investing more time into foucault and maybe not actually trying to go chronologically. a lot of our current debate into politics w/r/t science and identity is in some way derived from foucault's theories. i find him brilliant but for any conservative he's bound to be controversial

the other subfield here of modern relevance i guess is sort of the failed project of analytic liberalism (which i also admire greatly but really seems to have failed to get out of the ivory tower) represented chiefly by the "debate" between nozick and rawls in the 70s to 80s along with other analytics. issues concerning "global justice" tend to talk a lot about rawls' principles

other than that as usual go through the classics when you have time

>> No.11600988

>>11600820
i think there's a certain value to learning the institutionalized doctrine, as it can sometimes help you better think outside of it if you don't end up inured and fully indoctrinated by it (or consider it all that there is.) marx, regardless of your opinion, started as a fairly standard university philosophy student in berlin immediately after hegel's time. if he wasn't so exposed to those political undercurrents in that situation, he might not have had as crystal-clear an ability to later critique the position of german idealism. in this sense i suppose, given that one doesn't fully drink the milquetoast neoliberal juice, there's still value in terms of being exposed to it at face value. there's also a difference between liberal political theory and its practical/pragmatic 'espousal' by professors and instructors in their worldview, and while the former theory will remain a text, the latter is something that probably won't ever be recorded but may nonetheless still change your mind.

>> No.11601017

>>11600988
The most value in the degree is that they teach you how the world works. Luckily not everything is a battle of political ideologies. I agree with you about the utility of learning the institutional beliefs though.

>> No.11601254

>>11597245
Definitely not War & Peace.

>> No.11602424

The Ego and His Own
Industrial Society and Its Enemies
My Diary Desu
My Twisted World
Behead All Satans
And the Bible/Plato/Aristotle, of course.

>> No.11603682

>>11602424
>Industrial Society and Its Enemies
is that an amalgam of "Industrial Society and its Future" and "Convict Society and its Enemies"