/lit/ - Literature

TEN POINTS FOR HOUSE GRYFFINDOR

The only way to save the Canon at this point is to liquidate the Academy. Institutions of "higher education" have become the foremost destructors of knowledge, truth, and wisdom in the world.

>>11588862

>>11588862
>watches jbp once

>>11588898
I formed my opinion in my second year of university about a decade before the pronoun law when I decided not to try to become a professor. I do like Peterson, though I haven't heard him say anything about academia that I didn't already know.

>>11588898
>studies feminist dance therapy

>>11588862
No, it's to write a masterpiece that would match the canon

Assuming it's even true that some writers are objectively superior to others by some or other category, the canon is a function of society. If the entire society rejects the canon works as canonical, what possible defense do you have besides my aesthetics> your aesthetics? It is no longer a debate about the canon but aesthetics.

>>11588909
>decided not to try to become a professor
Translation: I was too stupid and lazy to make it in academia and now have sour grapes

>>11588909
>"I was a brainlet them, and I'm still a brainlet now"

wat is the cannon

>>11588930
Then Western Society is no longer western society. If you reject the canon you reject western society.

>>11588968
good fuck western society

>>11588964
a big gun

>>11588930
>The only way to save the Canon at this point is to liquidate the Academy. Institutions of "higher education" have become the foremost destructors of knowledge, truth, and wisdom in the world.
This

>>11588938
>>11588958
Not really. My GPA was 4.0. I just knew if I had to spend the rest of my life in an English department listening to people talk about nothing but identity politics and waiting for the struggle sessions to finally start I'd go crazy. The idea that a professor could actually take a stand against the Cathedral never crossed my mind as a possibility, because in my four years at university I'd never heard a professor ever utter so much as a syllable that wasn't perfectly tailored to the Narrative, and I'd seen students run out of the major on a rail just for bringing up Christianity in a non-critical tone once in class. The thought that someone could actually stand up to those people was inconceivable to me. I thought they had the institution perfectly locked in a stranglehold. If the Peterson thing had happened in the 2000s I might have gone to grad school. I just didn't have anyone who I wanted to be anything like. I wish things had been different.

>>11588938
Weak reply. Imagine actually being so invested that you feel the need to defend the remains imof academia

>>11588930
The principles are all pretty obvious. There’s a reason the greatest writers, taken as a whole, agree that x is good and y isn’t.
The fact that a bunch of academe hacks can’t make uo their minds is nothing to the purpose. The fact is that qualify was considered objective at a time when many children knew more than our “professors.”

>>11589102
*snap*

>>11588930
>>11588968
>>11588862

the reason to save the canon is so that other individuals (should they choose) be enlightened with the wisdom of the elders and attain as thanks for their elevated reflections, a legacy. To destroy or dilute the canon is to effectively misinform the public about "the heights of reflection".
The reason academia and marketers etc. want the canon to dissipate is so that they can make money of your mistakes (and the next generation's mistakes.)
Witholding information is a form of power. These people literally survive on lies, so it's an obvious assertion that you need to be distracted (i.e. pop culture's instant gratification meets scarcity seduction meets an audience hooked on heroin vs. your dad's experience (who wins etc).

>>11589102

What is "the canon"? The bible, plato, aristotle?

>>11589474
Plato, The Bible, and Homer and their respective footnotes.

>>11589525
This is unironically all you need

>>11589536
all you "need" for what? To live a good life in the modern era? No other literature is important?

>>11588968
blahblahblah go read a book, fagtron

>>11589536
pseud, i bet you can't even read the originals and rely on translation

>>11588862
Yes, to preserve the Canon, we must bring out the cannons. Demolish the present civilization to preserve the past and save the future.

>>11589553
This one? My Gender Studies professor recommended it.

>>11589559
well I'm not going to learn fucking Aramaic

>>11589562
These posts make me thankful for avoiding academia. Even if irony is the intended convention.

you must hurry....anon.....the school of resentment......is too......strong....

>>11589102
Did you ever call out the university echo chambers? How did it go?

>>11588968
I don't know about that, the latest True Grit was pretty good.

>>11589102
jesus christ imagine being this much of a brainlet

*smacks lips*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCeIvt9CDlI&t=

>>11589102

>>11589564
that's just a small part though and I'd let you pass with just hebrew and greek

>>11588830
This makes me laugh and feel sad simultaneously.

But I am an academic! I go to my local community college. I'm taking two classes this semester, not too many cause I also work at starbucks. Sociology and English, they're pretty tough though, but it's not too bad cause I pay a kid money to write stuff when I don't want to because sometimes I wanna go hang out and don't have time to do my work

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>>11588958
Huh..

>>11589171
Please supply me with X and Y because I honestly have no idea what all great writers agree on.

>>11588830
I THINK THE CANNON SUCKS

>>11589102
fuck the bloody postmodern marxists

you did good bucko

>>11588964
it's this. whenever you hear anons on /lit/ talking about the western cannon they mean this one. afaik it's a big gun that is used to defend literature. harold bloom, who appears in the OP, was the guy who invented it.

>>11590511
>because I honestly have no idea what all great writers agree on.

I'll take a crack at it once I can afford to, but I'm probably too old to start something new.

I would if I were not priced out of it and university/college weren't just an overpriced trade school. Sorry, Bloom, capitalism continues to ruin things.

>>11588830
Q predicted this

>>11588830
What's the first book in the Western Canon? Gilgamesh?

>>11591078
The Lost Book taken out of Atlantis and brought to Egypt.

>>11589230
Being a socially conservative Christian is literally the opposite of edgy.

>>11589586
Not intentionally. I tried to kept my views to myself as much as possible. I slipped up a few times, of course, and the reaction was what you'd expect (mob anger, shunning, contempt, etc), but my infractions weren't serious enough that I was expelled or forced to drop out. I did end up having to switch majors, though. I saw other students catch much, much worse.

>>11588862
Unironically this. Academia is a diseased tree that's spreading blight to everything around it. It needs to be cut down and replanted before it destroys everything.