/lit/ - Literature

The greatest woman

>>11558953
this is not how I imagined her at all. lol.

>>11558953
Glow in the dark spider.

>>11558956
Better?

>>11558965
Really nails the homely look that would allow her to pass as a random maid in Tanchico.

>>11558930
Well back then it wasn't like he said he was gonna go out and write a fantasy series. When it came out, it was praised as just another one of his novels, and it just so happened to have dragons and dwarfs and hobbits in it. Today your book is classified almost immediately, which leads to you either being looked down upon, or forgotten with people opting to read the thousands of other fantasy/sci-fi books out there.

sanderfag a hack

>>11558962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkMqCrSLEzw

Are there any stories where the mc has an evil waifu that tries to corrupt him?
Thinking Rand if Rand was a smart boy and joined Lanfaer.

Wow never read the comments for xianxia stories lol

>>11559000
Who is the Terry A. Davis of the literary world?

>>11559062
i've spent hours looking for something similar but there's nothing out there

I need a book literally right now, give me something thats not shit

>>11559234
Orphans of Chaos

>>11559062
>>11559145
Loki's daughter tries to bang Jalan in The Red Queen's War, same result as what happens to Lanfaer though.

>>11558947
All three people in this image are being exposed to space. How are they still alive? That guy in the back looks like he's been dead awhile, though.

Any of you guys keep a goodreads account? How much of a nice guy are you?

Profile->x.xx avg

Any other Lafferty fans here? I loved "Fourth Mansions" and just started "Arrive at Easterwine". I think he might be abetter prose stylist than Gene Wolfe.

>>11558755
H.P. Lovecraft was terrified of anybody who wasn't a non-inbred WASP.

Robert E. Howard could probably be best described as "too sensitive for his time" and was so stricken at his mother's death he shot himself.

Doc E.E. Smith was a incest fetishist.

Robert Heinlein was writing about free love and shit almost 30 years before the Summer of Love.

>>11559096
Terry, after someone transcribes all his videos into a heroic ballad.

>>11559539
Based C S Lewis and Tolkien exposing yanks for the batty boys they are.

>>11559526
I've only read Strange Doings, but he's a trip all right.

>>11558918
You don't. If you want to be respected outside the fantasy genre you don't write in it. If you're writing in genre fiction it's because you either love it shamelessly or else you're cynical and want to make a quick buck pandering to a built-in genre audience. Literary critics will never respect you if you write fantasy, you just have to accept that.

>>11558924
Tolkien was actually criticized frequently for his interest in fantasy. He was respected as a historical linguist and a scholar, his translations of old and middle English texts were well reputed. His colleagues often disparaged his fantasy writing though and were baffled at why such a talented academic wasted his time on it.

>>11559477
I only 1 star books I hate. I’m also stingy with 5 stars. I’ll generally rate a book above average if it’s at least trying to do something different.

>>11559526
I’ve been meaning to read some of the past masters. Thanks for the recommendation.

>>11559539
>E.E. Doc Smith
No he wasn’t. That was Heinlein.

>>11558972
The work was pretty highly praised as a work of fantasy by most reviewers and public critics, but in Tolkien's own academic clique reception was less warm. Some liked it, some panned it ruthlessly. It's strange that it was those who knew Tolkien best who were most skeptical of it, while those who only knew him by reputation found it marvelous.

>Cadsuane: Rand you're a little shit. *slaps*

How can she slap?

>>11559960
>*paddles his ass*

Hot

>>11559960
I found Cadsuane insufferable the first time I read the series, but in subsequent readings I came to admire her. She's like Nynaeve but way less insecure and way more ballsy. Nynaeve puts up a tough front and is stubborn as hell, but there's been times where her resolve crumbled. Cadsuane though I don't think ever gave up, her spine is made out of steel. Even when Rand threatened to kill her if he saw her face again she didn't leave, she just covered up and skirted the edge of his presence so as to technically keep to his command without abandoning her post.

She's basically one of the only Aes Sedai that's wholly committed to a noble cause like Moiraine.

>>11559986
Nice blog

>>11559994
Thanks, I try.

>>11559905
>No he wasn’t. That was Heinlein.

Aside from the overarching plot about how the aliens are secretly breeding a race of super psychics out of humanity, you'd have to be blind and dumb not to notice the overtones in Children of the Lens, such as when the protagonist mind melds with his mother:
>Kit came; and at the first terrific surge of his mind within hers the Red Lensman caught her breath, stiffened in every muscle and all but screamed in agony. Kit's fingers needed their strength as her hands clutched his and closed in a veritable spasm

The scene ends with her "sweat streaked face and disheveled hair" and them having champagne. Likewise the book goes on about how his sisters had "dreamed of a man who would be her own equal, physically and mentally, but it had not yet occurred to any of them that one such man already existed" while he goes on about how they don't "feel like other girls" who are "like robots made out putty" compared to his sisters. I believe that at one point the aliens running the breeding program go all "in the future your children blah blah blah" at Kit and his sisters.

In his eulogy for Smith, Heinlein says that Smith told him a sequel to Children of the Lens was "planned in great detail" but would have been impossible to publish due to the "moral climate" of the time, and considering that CotL was published in 1954 I don't think it was the eugenics that would have been unpalatable, and I doubt it would have been about gay lensmen.

>>11560000
You didn’t even name drop the author or whoever

>>11559959
Somebody posted a excerpt from a biography about how one of Tolkien's writing buddies would lie on the ground and go "oh god not the elves!" during readings.

I think it's kind of a mirror of modern stuff. Casual readers/"the public" love GRRM and Guy Gavriel Kay and so on, but people more familiar with fiction will be happy to take a literary axe to it.

>>11560006
I name dropped several main characters and terms unique to Wheel of Time, there's no way anyone could wonder what I'm talking about.

is there a quality drop-off after the first one?

>>11559986
You're unironically a cuck.

>Trying to go through the Culture series but Excession is boring the fuck out of me
Do I continue?
The first three each entertained me in their own ways but 200 pages in and I'm pretty uninterested

>>11560154
Literally who has ever read this wheel of thrones crap

In one of the previous threads I asked if I should read Silver Spike or Shadow Games. One anon said to go SG first and then SS. Which I did.
Some other anon said SS is shit, because it destroys the characters. While I can see why one would think that, because Raven and Silent are pretty prominent, though I'd say only Silent is kind of uncharacteristic , I have to say that so far it's my favorite book of the series. The new characters are great and the plot really pulls you in.

Read a new translation if possible as the old one contain some minor errors that fuck up continuity! Downloads at the usual place.

>>11558947
>what memes are you fed up of seeing?
x is a hack, webnovels in general and spamming of random books/series.
>what were you recently memed into reading?
Gormenghast, I appreciate it.
>which is the most popular SFFG meme?
Based Wolfe posting.

>>11559526
Lafferty is exit-tier SF. I could read his stories forever.

>>11559477
im pretty nice guy

>>11559477
>tfw I'm a nice guy

>>11559392
Not to mention, the vampire is right in front of the sun, he should be fucking turning to ash in a second!

>>11559986
>he’s still introducing characters I haven’t come across
>it’s another slightly different variation of the exact same character that is every woman in the series bar maybe 2

Sup Malazan boiz
Im back

Just bought this....hope its not garbage.

>>11560548
>LOOK AT ME

>>11560585
post here if it isnt garbage

>>11560585
>check out first review
>"The Name of the Wind but in space."
hm

>>11560604

yeah it was a yolo buy....never read name of the wind heard that was arse. whelp ill binge read and report back.

>>11560604
>>11560618
name of the wind is ok at least, years of editing theres no way it's that bad

>>11560230
Stop reading bad fanfiction.

>>11560693
Name of the wind is acceptable for what the book is.
A wise mans fear is shit.

>>11560724
>>11560693
I'm still kinda hoping for the author to turn the unreliable narrator around and/or subvert it in some interesting way.
Right now, the "uuh Kvothe is just bragging about his life guys!" feels like a fanboy defense against his dickish mary sue behaviour.
But the author simply acknowleding it won't be enough, as that would just be a reaction to fan feedback.
I guess what I'm saying is, that it could still turn out good. Might, might not, but really, it was a fun ride either way, even if it's shit.

>>11560742
>lmao Kote made everything up here's another 1000 pages of fairy smut, this time illustrated
How would you save the series?

>>11560747
Maybe set the final book in the actual present, where Kvothe doesn't get the benefit of the doubt, doesn't have weird demon or ninja sex escapades, and isn't such an unlikeable dick.

Honestly, I find it difficult to pin down exactly what I dislike about the protagonist. He fails constantly due to his own incompetence, but then also succeeds because he's such a special boy and the best guy ever. It feels like more effort is put into making him "badass" than him actually facing his issues, to the point that all his "badass" moments fall flat as pretentious.
Maybe a more grounded and "real" approach would work better, in a non-narrated, currently-happening sort of story.

>>11560769
The start where he was in the slums was good imo. All he was was an autist with photographic memory which gave him the ability to copy shit.
Then everything seemed to become far more luck based than skill based after starting up a skill level to start from. The glossing over things they emphasised at the start of some of his great accomplishments pissed me off.
>This court case was your first real trial and where you made a name for yourself
>oh there is already records of it, ok you don't need to tell that story then

>>11558947
kek excellent image

>>11560742
>>11560747
>>11560769
>>11560799
Pat has written himself into a tiny, cramped, deep dark corner, and every day the legion of fanboiz and fangurlz expecting him to deliver on everyrhing grows bigger and more frustrated that he hasnt delivered yet. He has created a massive tangle of loose ends and theres no way he will ever please everyone with the way he ties them, and at this point hes got to be thinking he might as well just jot try to please anyone.
The series is surely the LOST of modern YA fantasy, no matter what he does in book 3, its going to fall flat and reek of disappointment. But I guess to compare it to LOST is a pretty big compliment, from a popularity standpoint anyway

>>11560769
What can you expect when the author looks like this? Only a turbovirgin basedboy faggot would write 200 pages about his virgin self insert having wild sex with a goddess and how she's impressed by his skills
only a 'man' like him would write about his character falling in love with a literal whore who can't even be there for him
only a 'man' writes bilge like the following lines and expects us to think 'woah that's so deep and understanding, this guyt fucks'

>I have known her longer, my smile said. True, you have been inside the circle of her arms, tasted her mouth, felt the warmth of her, and that is something I have never had. But there is a part of her that is only for me. You cannot touch it, no matter how hard you might try. And after she has left you I will still be here, making her laugh. My light shining in her. I will still be here long after she has forgotten your name.
>Denna is a wild thing," I explained. "Like a hind or a summer storm. If a storm blows down your house, or breaks a tree, you don't say the storm was mean. It was cruel. It acted according to its nature and something unfortunately was hurt. The same is true of Denna.
literal nonsense LOL

>>11560819
He can save it by making book 3 1500 pages long, that's plenty of time to cover Kvothe's expulsion, the Chandrias, the king killing stuff and then catching up with the present moment.

>>11560841
Dont forget his self-written sleeve bio about being an 'expert lover of women' or some such cringelord tripe

>>11559986
based and redpilled

>>11559062
i can't believe that there are no books where the evil girl wins the mc bowl

>>11560876
What the fuck? He wrote that?
Infinite JUST

>>11559062
Technically the Black Company with Croaker and the Lady, but it's up in the air.

>>11560933
I don't think the corruption aspect ever came into it, seeing as croaker wasn't exactly a paragon in the first place.

>>11560230
Silver Spike basically ends the Northern Continent arc. It's also a great answer to something many works skip entirely in that we get to see what happens after the main party departs and there's a shitstorm that needs resolving. Keep reading.

>>11560846
Unfortunately there's so much mythology and so many in-universe ties with the chandrian he can't just get them "over with" even with a 1500 page tome, especially considering his prosaic style

>>11560722
It's by the same author and published in the same year as the next main book.
What makes you say that?

>>11560937
I'll read the whole series, of course. I just meant that so far, 5 books in, it's my favorite. Maybe not the best or most interesting, but definitely was the most fun and pleasurable to read.

Is this shit any good?

I read and enjoyed the first book back in highschool and I'm wondering if the next two will hold up.

>>11561238
>sanderson

>>11561238
It's a masterpiece

>>11561242
I get that he's a meme at this point but WoK was the last fantasy novel that I actually enjoyed and wasn't complete kitschy Tolkien fanfic.

>>11559670
>batty boys
Why hello there my Caribbean anon.

>>11560548
>>>/soc/

>>11560230
Speaking of Cook - how are his non-Black Company works?

>>11561238
I liked the first two but I didn't like the third one at all. I feel like if I went back and reread the first two I'd probably end up not liking them either.

>>11561300
I think croapper from Malazan was based on that fat guy in the dread empire books.

>>11560933
This only if Soul Catcher won.

>>11561238
The art makes me want to get it, but I really don't like the sound of the apparent anime battles that take place.

>>11560841
>there are people out there that actually think like this

Not shit Urban Fantasy recommendations now or I shoot!

>>11562124
Doesn't exist, shoot me if you must

>>11562124
'Murrican Gods

>>11562124
>Not shit Urban Fantasy
Anon I...

>>11562127
>>11562144

>>11562141
Already read it.

>>11561238
It's fantastic.

>>11561691
Don't mind those, just read it, it's very fun and full of twists.

>>11562156
Maybe you could write some?

>>11562169
>full of twists
This does not sell me on a story.
Any autist can write a tale full of twists.

>>11562179
Not one of my talents unfortunately.
What's up with no good urban fantasy?
There's good epic fantasy and there's good sci-fi but what about urban fantasy?

>>11562180
Don't talk shit about David Cage

>>11562180
then go read Dostoyevsky or some bullshit you insufferable cunt. I keep forgetting people on /g/ don't read books for fun.

>>11562232
Woah there sanderson no need to get so upset.
I was just commenting that saying a book is full of twitsts is much the same as saying it's full of dialogue or that it's full of action; it doesn't necessarily give any indication of quality.

>>11562189
I honestly don't know. The whole genre seems to be nothing but a hot chick hybrid werewolf/vampire/some mythical creature in leather pants wielding katanas and fighting some ancient evil. Add SJW seasoning according to your tastes.
Its just a way to earn a quick buck pandering to the lowest common denominator. Kinda like steampunk.

>>11560841
I don't think the point is to idealize Denna. She is extremely attractive to Kvothe and he is hopelessly in love with her despite her obvious flaws, but most other people would call her plain and actively dislike her.

I'm pretty sure it is deliberate, and you're missing the point despite agreeing with it. That's more on you than it is on Pat.

>>11562322
I take one look at Pat and I know that's not the case. Pat, the hyper feminist who owns an LGBT bookshop. Pat, the guy who makes 9gag tier memes on his Twitter. Pat, the guy who cried and became depressed when a book he was looking forward to got delayed by only 1 month. These fantasy authors are born cucks, look at Scott Lynch. There the protagonist Locke chases some shitcunt who cuckolds him and he as good as said the events in book 3, where maximum cuckolding takes place, was inspired by his divorce. Fucking hell

I just finished this a few days ago. I may be a pleb, but i thought the movie was much better.
What did /lit/ think of it? Does it even qualify as sci-fi?

>>11560841
I'm surprised people always remember these points but no one ever mentions his retarded feminist "utopia" where the very wise, sexually liberated and better fighters in the whole setting than any man (only explanation given is because females are faster, there are no indications that women are physically different in this setting than the real world), who somehow do not believe they need men to get pregnant, which I'm pretty sure even animals know by instinct. Imo it was by far the cringiest part of his books, worse than the fairy by miles.

>>11562642
no surprises considering:
>>11562380

>>11562670
I mean why it's the least complained about part of the second book, when I think it's by far the dumbest, maybe people just dropped it before they got there. I think he even managed to make actual feminists mad with that shit because of course he had everyone there be all over Kvothes dick as well. The ultimate "male feminist" fantasy where they all reward him with their sexually liberated pussies for being such a good ally.

I also hated the ending of the book where just when you think he has some tiny speck of self-awareness and makes some of the mary sue magical gypsy people Kvothe is descended from be bad and have flaws they turn out to be evil impostors that he brutally murders, bravo Rothfuss.

>>11562446
Damn i thought the movie was really bad.

>never read a single page out of kingkiller chronicle
> call the books shitty, kvothe a mary sue and the author a cuck

Anyone else do this?

>>11562642
>only explanation given is because females are faster
Did the fat fuck never have a PE lesson?

>>11562757
I read a quarter of the first book if that counts.

>>11562757
I think your trolling is lost among all the valid criticisms.

>>11562759
Das sexist.

>>11562767
I want them to be my big sisters and protect me from bullies

Are there any sci fi or fantasy with good prose and actual merit as literature?

>>11562813
Lord of the Rings

>>11562822
Decent, but the third book sucks balls

>>11562757
I've read both books thrice. You don't need to read a single page of it to call Pat a cuck because he is one. A big, fucking bearded babby.

>>11562848
>I've read both books thrice
Why?

Why does this exist?

>>11562884
To trigger you?

>>11562884
Because Robert Jordan wrote it

>>11562780
At that point they are your big bros.

>>11562960
I'd be pissed if I went on a holiday and got weather like that.

>>11562960
So this is the power of bunda?

>>11562960
Why do women wear bikinis like that? They are pretty much naked.

>>11563021
I am sure they'll find something fun to do. Like going out for drinks with friends.

>>11563038
I don't think these girls are BR monkeys.

>>11562899
>>11562941
imagine being a sycophant who can't think for himself.

>>11561300
Dread Empire is good but more epic in tone and is very much stylistic prequel to the Black Company. I haven't read the prequel series or the new ones though.

Instrumentalities of the Night is great but ends up with a rushed ending because the 5th book got canceled while he was writing the 3rd book. It's great overall, cool fantasy Mediterranean setting during the late crusades/early gunpowder period.

Garret PI is his other big series and is about a ex-Marine PI in a fantasy city that's kind of like Ankh Morpork or The City in the Thief games. The later books feel a bit overdone though I haven't read the most recent.

The Dragon Never Sleeps is a great scifi stand-alone.

Passage at Arms is also great, it's a Das Boot style story about a stealth ship. It's technically part of the Starfishers series but prequels it by like 100 years and is unconnected. Starfishers itself is okay at best, I didn't really like it.

Darkwar is good apparently but I haven't read it.

I'm told The Tower of Fear is one of his best works but I haven't gotten around to it.

>>11563048
>Why do women wear bikinis like that?
I so hope you are trolling.

>>11563065
Oh boy.

He had to be extremely careful when using it. Even though Wu Kong Mountain was covered in trees, but if he wasn’t careful, it was easy for one of the old trees to wither.

Everytime he used [Art of Flora], Zuo Mo was alert and cautious, afraid of ruining the ancient trees in the mountains. It wasn’t easy for ancient trees to grow and live. They all had endured for thousands of years before they could become their present shape. There wasn’t an explicit rule in the sect, but if he caused large sections of ancient trees to die, then waiting for him wasn’t anything good.

>>11560962
I can see Rothuss pulliing a Jordan and turning book 3 into books 3, 4, and 5.

>>11562124
>>11562189
Vurt
Last Call
Zod Wallop

>>11562884
Because more Moiraine is always a good thing.

Any fantasy were everyone speaks with a Newcastle accent?

>be robert jordan
>really want to spank your wife
>she won't let you
>really want to force her to be nude in public
>she's not into it
>get very upset
>create a fantasy land where spankings and forced nudity are deeply rooted in every culture and every tradition in those cultures

when did you realize you were reading a sexually frustrated man writing stuff to jerk off to?

I'm writing a LOTR knockoff romance about a young knight and a tsundere warrior princess who team up to stop a great evil. They dislike each other at first despite their mutual attraction but gradually form an effective duo and come to care for one another. The story ends with them fighting a mystical warlock and the knight is severely injured. The princess manages to save him and tearfully confesses her feelings over his unconscious body, after which he wakes up and they get together. I'm about 12k words into it.

>>11563229
So he made a career out of his sexual frustration. What did you make of your sexual frustration?

>>11562884
>>11563188
is she supposed to be a literal midget?

>>11563246
Legally a midget in 3 countries and the aiel waste, average height in cairhien

>that one creepy wot fanboy who responds to every post

why does he do it, bros? why doesn't he just read another series?

>>11563239
>doesn't show her turning around and walking back

>>11563239
>black tape project
>uses pink tape
uh, what?

>>11563234
That's lame, if I wanted to read a love story I wouldn't read sf or fantasy.

>>11563188
Her WoT page reads like a DBZ episode.
Strong as this, stronger than that - is she gonna fight Freeza soon?

>>11563258
The camera man at the fashion show didn't record her, the bastard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwj3NQvBy6I

>>11563259
It's fashion anon.

Are you going to read her book?

>There have been a lot of books heralded as heirs to Infinite Jest, but I can happily say: this is it. I’ve found it.
>After all the years of doorstopping tomes writing by white literary fiction males (many of whom I love) and all the years of terrified readers being cornered in coffeeshops by wild-eyed young men (and occasionally, um, me) who needed to explain David Foster Wallace’s masterwork, Chandler Klang Smith has unleashed her own slipstream, genrefluid monster of a book—that also happens to be fun, visceral, heartbreaking, and genuinely funny.

>>11563327
But of course.
Right after I run a 100km trail race.

>>11563256
Because WoT is everything he has in life.

>>11563327
Reviews sound like this could be pretty good or a wreck. Thanks, I'll check it out.

>>11560598
>>11561292
I don't understand the hate you can't even see my face bros lol like I'm fully concealed

>>11563239
why do you blue-board terrorists hate seeing a man succeed at nofap so much?

>>11558947
Just got into Tolkien. What should I read first, The Hobbit or the trilogy?

>>11563449
hobbit obvs my dude

I think that settles it. I am going to start on the WoT so I can get in on the trolling.

>>11563434
Oh I am so sorry anon. Maybe this will cool you off.

>>11563468
SCRUMPTIOUS

>>11562960
good god imagine the smell

>>11563434
Real talk? He's not even here because he likes fantasy or scifi. He's a tourist from /v/. He doesn't read books.

How many Philip K. Dick stories is too many to read in a row?

>>11563624
imagine reading books that have been adapted to film

>>11563624
The man was full of stories. I can't get enough of it.

>>11563639
what do you mean?

>>11563468
Based Chris-chan

>>11563234
>romance
>warrior woman

Do what you do, but it sounds like something I would never be interested in.

>>11563624
You can't get enough Dick

>>11563639
A Scanner Darkly is really the only PKD adaptation that actually earnestly attempted to adapt the story he wrote. All the other ones are basically just in name only.

>>11563234
RIght and where does the LOTR aspect come into it?
Nothing you wrote there seemed particuarly tolkienesque

>>11563327
>male name
>female author
tricky tricky

>>11564118
I thought that Chandler fucking Klang Smith is some pen name. What's with these weird androgynous names from female authors who look as feminine as a brick?

>>11564234
Third wave feminism

>>11563292
She’s the weakest of the main girls though.

I want to read a series about a king that gives no fucks and follows the law to the letter, if a peasant or his own mother do treason they pay the same price kinda fellow.
Stannis is the only guy that springs to mind for me.

Is it true that most "hordes" are based on Mongolian Invasion?

>>11564484
Them mostly, huns slightly.
Border Reivers when.

>>11560376
what place?

I'm a bit of a brainlet but in Permutation City, what exactly is it that Paul is testing with his copies? No major spoilers please.

>>11560585

few chapters in...its pretty bad, kind of reads like a bioware game World. empowered women space knights working for a s/oy boy so far. grim.

I'll give it another 50 pages then bin it.

>>11564484
Funny thing was the Mongolian "horde" didn't really exist and was more a result of European and Arab/Persian observers being unfamiliar with the envelopment tactics the Mongols used. Generally in the initial engagements they did not hugely outnumber their opponents, but because their forces were almost entirely mounted they would attack at every point, withdrawing and attacking again and again until the enemy army routed, typically leading to the entire war being decided at that point since the European/Persian force was likely destroyed and it's leader captured/killed.

The same thing happened in the Korean War, the UN commanders were like "but gentlemen wouldn't sneak past our armies in the night!" yet that's what the Chinese were totally doing. (one will note that the term "Human Wave" does not actually appear in the official US Army histories of the war.)

>>11564484
The thing about hordes invasion:
There are already two empires. They are incompatible but are both civilized. They are at war against each other but they know each other well.
Then out of "hell" or a previously overlooked side or place, the "hordes" come. They are mysterious. They cannot be negotiated with. They kill and level places. Then they are gone. Only records of horror are left.

>>11565042
Fun fact: a "horde" is literally just Turkic for "military camp".

Who are some explicitly right-wing modern SFF writers?
inb4 puppy" autistic "puppies" crowd

>>11562124
The Child Thief may count.
The beginning and end, at least.

>>11565737
I am not sure if he is explicitly right-wing, but T.C. McCarthy could fit your bill. Former CIA analyst I think, and looking at his twatter he seems to support the God Emperor Trump.
He also writes pretty good military sci-fi, and avoids every space marine hoorah BS that plagues that subgenre.

>reading Blindsight
>protagonist lost his native theory of mind and social skills, manages by systematizing interactions without really "getting" people
>romance flashbacks are him evopsych sperging about how his gf is unconsciously scheming to control him

Bravo Watts.

>>11565902
Yeah he wasn't really good with people, like you.

>>11565737
Why? Can't handle opinions other than yours?

>>11565870
oh yikes his twitter is something else. Just.... Wow.

>>11565981
>yikes
Why do lefties talk like trannies?
Sweetie, hon, yikes - it's like listening to a middle aged crossdresser.

>>11564761
It's in the sticky

>>11565987
I only associate yikes with Scooby-Doo kek

>>11566016
>I only associate yikes with Scooby-Doo
Just how old are you?

>>11565980
>racism is bad, m'kay?
>equality is good, m'kay?
>women are awesome, m'kay?
>progressive people are objectively morally correct, non-progressive people are barely people, m'kay?
Yes, I cannot handle these truth-bombs.
>>11565870
Thanks.

>>11563985
I think paycheck was a pretty faithful adaption. The book was very straightforward though.

>>11566099
Jinkies...

>>11565980
That would be you by the sounds of things.

>>11566250
>>11566265

Oh man, the story arc from Beak was short, but it brought tears to my eyes.

>>11562697
That bit confirms Kvothe comes from royalty. His had stole away Lackless' sister. This also explains why when young Kvothe was singing the lewd lackless song in the caravan his mom admonished him.

I'm writing a story about several mysterious murder cases that have seemingly been done by vampires and the daily lives of the characters who get involved with them. At first, due to the media leaking shocking details about the murder scenes, people start thinking that the culprit is imitating, or possibly is, a real-life vampire. As the death counts rise, more and more people report of mysterious phenomena. The goth kids try to identify themselves with said image of the vampire, cultists think of it as the coming of the end, the church gets spooked and etc. It turns out however that the truth is that a mutant virus/lifeform has taken over the local populace and affecting their behaviour in a way that makes them resemble vampires as a way of multiplying and infecting others. Hijinks ensue as the government tries to cover up things and prevent a vampire apocalypse while the civilians and media misconstrue everything as supernatural phenomena.
So, what are some books, movies or games that have a similar idea and what are the most common pitfalls when dealing with stories like these?

>>11566361
sounds like The Strain

>>11566361
There are no books with the kind of supernatural/scientific twist that you propose. Just how supernatural-ish are your infected? Are we keeping it as realistic as possible? Is it supposed to be humorous?
There are a few books that deal with viral outbreaks in great deal. One of them was about that benign strain of ebola that was found in DC, I can dig up the name if you are interested. I also have somewhere on my hard drive a zombie outbreak analysis done by two actual epidemiologists. Its a fun read.
https://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h6423.full

>>11566328
This book just sounds shitter and shitter by the moment.

>>11563048
They will do anything for attention.

>>11563055
These whorish party games are so disgusting.

>>11563292
Boy tier ass. JUST

>>11566524
Indeed. Those thots.

>>11566552
what is she doing

>>11566650
Being a woman of loose morals, the harlot.

>>11566650
Trying to misdirect your gaze from her fat belly to her fat tits.

Fuck, when did we become /r9k/

>>11566767
Yeah man give me my /pol/ posters back already

>>11566773
how about neither, since apparently everyone here has the political opinions of a retarded 12 year old

>>11566785
You have to go back.

>>11566787
Can't go back to a place you're not from

>>11566805

>>11566773

By the way, I keep saying novel, but I actually intend om turning it into a visual novel once I have the basics written down, though it'll technically still be written like a normal novel.
>>11566442
It sounds similar, but from what I've read about it The Strain already starts with the premise of it very definitely being a virus and it's told from the POV of a scientist who's an inside face so based on the premise alone I can say it focuses way less on the mystery of the vampires than what I have in mind.
>>11566467
I haven't really thought about that yet since I was focusing more on the general concept at the time. I'd like to aim for it to be believable once I explain it in the story itself, but without getting too in-depth to the point where the feeling of mystery disappears. I don't want the entire story to be grimdark, so my plan's to have a multitude of smaller stories about the characters that directly or indirectly end up being connected to the virus without necessarily being about it. Thanks for the link by the way, it was a pretty interesting read.

>>11567077
>but I actually intend om turning it into a visual novel
well lad i hope in addition to being able to write, you can also draw, write music and program.

>>11566468
Come now, it's a great book. Sure it lags here and there because Patrick's an unfocused sack of shit but it makes for delightful (re)reading. I love it, I love it, I love it. Give me more tales from the Waystone Inn. More stories as Kote polishes his glasses and Bast lazes around on the chair. Wooow-weeee!

>>11566658
Goddamn skank. She should be beaten and have the slut whipped out of her mind.

>>11567125
What is wrong with you?
The question is rhetorical FYI.

>>11567129
Anon what did we say about your violent sexual fantasies?

>>11567157
Oh come on fag, I like my comfy books that I can read in bed. I have a hard time falling asleep by myself and reading fiction in bed is the perfect way for me to fall asleep. I never read fiction outside of my bed.

>>11567157
SHE'S GOT HER TITS POPPING OUT, THAT AIN'T RIGHT, SHE WON'T LET US TOUCH EM. Why advertise something that's not for sale?

Is this the thread where we talk about books and such?

>>11567227
in theory

>>11562124
Dresden Files is pretty fun. Go in expecting the book equivalent of a fun action movie, and you'll have a blast.

Why do the Red and Blue Ajahs hate one another? They should be on the same side. If your stated goal is to dedicate yourself to causes then one of the most important should be to keep men who can channel from wreaking havoc. Really, I don't get it.

Can a non brainlet explain it to one?

is there a SINGLE person who could defeat kraiklyn? He's SO strong

>>11567190
Anon what did we say about yelling at pretty girls?
A pill a day keeps the Elliot away.

>>11567227
Of course not. We only discuss absolute dogshit here (as evidenced by the in-depth look at Kvothe's character in this general).
I picked up WoT just so I can know what the Hell are people talking about here.

>>11566302
That arc was especially rough.
When he sees his brother beyond Hood's Gate, and he's playing with Beak's wax figures. Tears were shed.

>>11567324
I have no words for this degeneracy

>>11567324

>>11567358
I think the word you are looking for is "slutty".
It's a pretty good word.

>>11567310
Is he as strong as Uchiha Madara though?

>anon from /v/ who admits he doesn't read scifi or fantasy keep spamming our thread with dumb nonsense opinions on things he doesn't read and "sexy" webms
>mods do nothing to stop him

Why is he even here, bros? How do we defeat him?

>>11567398
Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.

>>11567125
>it’s a great book

>>11567292
The blues have been in power for years at the expense of the reds, whose last witch queen was stilled by blues.

>>11565980
I've read 50+ books by hardcore leftists I would appreciate reading some by right wings, if just to see if they are any different.

>>11567538
Just check out milSF. That shit's replete with rightwing.

>>11567538
try a learning experience by christopher nutall.
some army veterans get obducted by aliums but take over their ship then they build a colony on the moon for like-minded people.
only the first book is any good really. its standalone too so you can stop after it if you want.

>>11565737
Vox Day, although his books are completely exempt from any ideological views. Check his goodreads pages for his books, full of people complaining without even reading about it.
John Ringo, but the only thing I read of his was completely shit. Nice concept, though, in Troy Rising, some really nice ideas about asteroid mining.
Larry Niven, although again I don't think his political views bleed too much into his works. Maybe a little bit, but very discreetly, he may not even have done it on purpose.

Aside from those, lots and lots of indie milsf, as has been said.

>>11567538
Lefties write the best shit

>>11567622
>John Ringo, but the only thing I read of his was completely shit
To be fair, John was pretty much the only /sffg/ related writer that I saw that have openly admitted that his shit is, indeed, shit.

>>11563229
Huh. Should I start reading WoT then? I always avoided it because of how long it is and all the reported annoying females and the infamous third (forth?) book. But, I mean, if the smut is good enough, maybe I can overlook these other things.

>>11567747
No one cares about your life story. Don't read it.

>>11567756
>No one cares about your life story.
Don't ever reply to my posts again.

What new books are you guys getting this month?

>>11567933
>this month
Nothing.

>>11567933
Probably dragon safari 3

>>11558947
Why always sci-fi and fantasy in one breath? We should separate them in our minds and in our threads.

>>11567933
Don't have anything to read anymore. I've read all the books I've wanted to on Earth, from here on out I'll be rereading them until I die and maybe buying the odd book or two from contemporary authors.

>>11562446
Is it true that the quality drops off massively after the first book? I really enjoyed it

>>11568023
It's been tried and it did not work.

>>11568023
The quality is pretty much the same.

First Malazan book just arrived, what am I in for?

>>11568290
I also got More Than Human and Fifth Head of Cerberus

>>11568206
There are more sci fi books that qualify as fine literature than there are of fantasy

>>11568290
Nine more books if you like the first one to get answers as to what really happened.

>>11568290
I hope you got a pen and paper on hand to keep track.

>>11568290
I got it too last week; haven't started yet though, as I have some other stuff queued

>>11568296
Disregard Malazan and read m8.

>>11568410
>read m8
Read Wolfe m8. Fix'd it for myself.

>>11568416
I just might. Last thing I finished was the Book of the Short Sun

>>11568113
>>11562446
Overall the series was good but book two was padding that could've been cut down to a few chapters. I liked how it wrapped up. Haven't seen the movie yet.

>>11567622
>Larry Niven, although again I don't think his political views bleed too much into his works

My rough understanding is that a lot of politics in his books are really Pournelle's, though leaving that much room for bleedover probably says something about him.

>>11568023
You are like the 9th or 10th person to think this. Wan to be the third person to actually try starting a separate thread for sci-fi? I'll let you guess what happened to the previous two.

>>11568320
do you find out what really happened? it's so convoluted i came out of it feeling unsatisfied.

>>11568113
it's true. haven't seen such a massive drop off since dune. that said book one is great and book 3 is better than book two

>>11564830
Please respond.

>>11567549
Yeah but it's mostly just the bland "I read Starship Troopers once" militarism of former enlisted who went and used their GI Bill on a English degree from Phoenix University or whatever. Military Good! Democrats Bad! ad nauseam to the point where they blur together into a Onion editorial cartoon where a slab-chested space marine punches a large spider labeled "CHINA" in the mandibles while a cheering statue of liberty watches.

Generally the further they were from the tip of the spear the more moronic it gets. With former officers the trend is more towards the center-left or non-military scifi writing, and again some POG who managed crates on a repair depot in Montana is gonna be more rah rah.

>siuan is pillow friends with moiraine in the tower
>thirsts for big bryne cock once she's out

Is this like when guys are gay but only in prison?

>>11569557
it's cause lesbians aren't real
women experiment for a while but they get bored with women
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_bed_death

>>11569584
Nothing kills any sort of sexual passion quite like long term relationship. Ask your mom and dad about it assuming they're still together.

>>11569607
>have less sex than any other type of couple

So why was the autarch operating a brothel (the house azure)?

>>11569487
And of course the military sort of “right wing” is riddled with left wing implicit assumptions, like equality or non discrimination, or freedom

>>11559526
Fourth Mansions is great. In general though his works have this forward momentum without pause that I think is interesting but prevents him from being great at crafting settings or giving characters nuance. Great premise work though. I'd still say Gene Wolfe's prose is significantly better, but to each their own.
>>11568113
It's not so much of a quality drop off, it's that the next two books don't add anything, they're superfluous. Just read the first and skip the rest of the trilogy.
>>11568023
When we last tried that the sci fi thread stagnated because there aren't enough sci fi fans to carry a general, and the fantasy thread devolved because most fantasy fans are focused on a handful of series of dubious quality.
>>11569644
Nostalgia I'd guess.

>>11561238
Second is pretty good third is alright. His other in-universe stuff is good

>>11569607
thats funny. even after my mom got her menopause my parents still fucked like rabbits. as often as they could. much to my dismay because when they thought no one was awake or listening me and my siblings have been suffering quite often.
as a matter of fact. i only know of long term relationships where people fuck each other silly regularly. its fucking weird. tough my mom did give me one advice that ive been taking too heart. never date a woman that cant stick with someone for atleast a year.

>>11567707
Gene Wolfe is left wing?

>>11569644
To extract semen from Severian to mix with eggs stolen from the little girls that Father Inrine was so interested in. Recreating humanity requires only one Adam, and lots of Eves.

>>11567707
Kim Stanley Robinson is my waifu

stop! stop! he's already dead!

>>11568063
Ok I'll ask. How many books? What are the best ones?

>>11569487
Hey, man, you wanted rightwing and those guys are the right wing core.

>>11565737
John C. Wright does fun pulpy sci-fi. If you like Vance then Wright scratches a similar itch.

>>11569316
Yes.

Blindsight is pretty good. Anything else like it?
Also why is Brandon Sanderson considered such a meme? Just finished warbreaker and I liked it.

>>11567549
lose the S and i might like it

>>11560933
The Lady good girl she dindu nuthin
Her first name is Church

>>11570688
you want radical right wing military sci fi.. read some Tom Kratman. an author who literally gives no fucks on who he insults and is immune to sjw's

Actually he's not bad if barely sci fi, he uses a scifi setting to satire current political ideologies, it's klnda like "Man in the high Castle", except that man is currently at war with the U.N and winning

>>11559096
PKD's a religious schizophrenic bag of bolts that also made cool stuff once

>>11570799
Name me one bad PKD book. Bad one.

>>11567747
The smut is shit, you don’t even get a proper description of Moiraine running across the desert naked.

>>11569557
>Moiraine is pillow friends with Siuan
>thirst for Thom when she leaves the tower
What did Jordan mean by this

>>11570918
Martian chronicles was trash.

>>11571148
It's not trash and it's written by Ray Bradbury.

>>11570744
unironically i'd appreciate your help with some questions i had
>what's the deal with azath houses? who made them? what's their origin
>why is icarium so powerful and so influential
>why is kallor immortal? how is it that a human existed while "the t'lan imass were children"

>>11571148

Well that was depressing as shit

>>11571200
Icarium has a big role in the story and everything about him is gradually revealed.
Kallor's background is told in Memories of Ice.
The Azath houses remain mysterious but something new about them is revealed in almost every book.

>>11571212
no i meant i wanted the actual answers. i read the whole series and i have no intentions of doing it again

>>11571218
Kallor is cursed to live forever by Nightchill, K'rul and Draconus because he killed all of his subjects and burned his empire to the ground leading to K'rul making it into the Imperial Warren thus also eventually leading to his death.
Icarium is Gothos' son who is at least on par with the Elder Gods in power and also he destroyed an Azath house which wounded his mind and made his rage into a warren.
And as I said the Azath houses are quite mysterious.

>>11571236
>kallor
oh yeah, you're right. i can't believe i forgot that kallor bit about the immortality. but was he human? how was he alive during that time
>icarium
right again. i forgot about this as well. was gothos's power level really expanded upon though? cause i really got the feeling icarium was op as hell, even for a jhag
>azath houses
oh well. guess we'll find out one day. do you read the new books at all?

>>11571278
>was he human? how was he alive during that time
Yes, I think Kallor's was the actual first human empire so before Dessimbelackis though I might be wrong on this.

>>11571278
>was gothos's power level really expanded upon though?
Well he wove a ritual to stave off the Hold/High House of Death from Lether for hundreds of thousands of years so I assume he was a similar kind of Jaghut as Hood who is clearly as powerful as the Elder Gods. This was in the beginning of Midnight Tides I think.

>do you read the new books at all?
I haven't yet but I probably will. Especially the upcoming Karsa Orlong ones since his story arc ended quite abruptly and disappointingly.

>>11568023

It's all fantasies.

>>11564830
Some sort of mental causality, whether or not his copy can make sense of itself when his mind is computed out of logical order. Its to prove that even if you further scrambled it into the most minute parts, into something like white noise, it would all seem normal to the copy.

I didn't really understand how anything can continue after computation stops though or how he could compute the 10th second before the previous seconds.

Any good examples of "edgy" characters in sci-fi who don't become edgelords?

>>11565902
Those parts were funny as fuck.

Which only makes it all the more depressing later on when she dies.

>>11568023
Scifi and fantasy started out together, back in the early days of genre fiction. Their separation into two distinct genres was the worst thing to ever happen to either.

>>11570761
Starfish is good too.

Bakker would probably be Watts' fantasy analogue.

>>11571546
It actually wasn’t. It is just that hack writers did shit with genre beyond “generic hero/antihero saves the day”, without really exploring the genres(much of the so called “exploration” is just hacks masturbating about their political views).

>>11569988
It's a guy you faggot...

>>11571209
>falling for the buried giant meme author
If buried shit is anything to go by Ishiguro's whole bag is "emotional fantasy". He tried to hold your feelings hostage and blackmail emotions into sympathizing with axl fag and his princess.

If I ever find the piece of shit that memed me that trash and swore it was good.....

Q predicted this

>>11571427
Sula from Dread Empire’s Fall

>>11572018
Any from a series that isn't an utter snoozefest?

Recommend me some good fantasy series.
Something not so well known.

>>11572036
Neck yourself

>>11572052
Not that anon but it does sound like the usual space opera snoozefest.

>>11572058
I-it’s fun

>>11572037
The Last Sacrifice by James Monroe or something. Nothing special really just an adventure story about guys in kilts.

>>11571118
>shitty characters
>shitty books
>shitty smut
The fuck!? Why do people read this shit? Why can't writers write good stuff?

I want to FUCK Palmer Eldritch while /a/ watches!

>>11572065
I hope it's at least well written. Cuz the premise of a static, tradition bound intergalactic empire defeated by (what in most cases boils down to) WW2 tactics in spaceeee is not new.

>>11572084
>Why can't writers write good stuff?
There is no need anon. Why would you spend time and energy to write something good when a 10 door stopper series will do just as well financially?

>>11572018
I'm the anon who asked the original question. I'm looking into Dread Empire now.

>>11572097
But they are the static tradition bound empire.
It’s the only space opera I’ve read, so maybe that’s why I like it so much.

>>11572107
>It’s the only space opera I’ve read
Why? There's so many authors to choose from.

>>11572133
Not sure, not my cup of tea I guess.

>>11572097
>Why would you spend time and energy to write something good when a 10 door stopper series will do just as well financially?
I don't know, man. Since I upped my reading I've been thinking of writing something myself. I didn't yet because what I envision isn't very good yet. So maybe I think everyone should just not do things until they can do it with quality. I used to draw a little bit when I was a kid, and people asked where I learned to draw so well. I was stupefied. I though "well, when I see something isn't right I erase it and do it again and again until it's good". It's not rocket science. Same thing with writing, I guess. Just a little algorithm: is it good? no->do it again. yes->done.

But I guess it's as you said. In the end they just want to pay the bills (or become rich). I couldn't do it, though. Suppose it did become a famous work, I'd be remembered as the guy who took a really successful shit! (thinking of Rowling right now)

>>11572151
>So maybe I think everyone should just not do things until they can do it with quality.
You are thinking wrong anon, so very wrong.
In order to "do things with quality", you have to do said things over and over again. Practice makes perfect. But I doubt you'll ever create anything famous with that kind of attitude. I know Rowling turned into some retarded soccer mom, but back in the day, before the fame and fortune and gay Dumbledore, she was a single mother with a novel that was turned down by dozen or so publishers until she got her big break. So now we have practice and perseverance.

One of you dopey cunts make a new thread

>>11572313
You can't make me

>>11572326
Do it

>>11570792
>is immune to sjw's

But he googles himself and goes around to random blogs/forums and yells at people who gave him bad reviews.

>inb4 two new threads at the same time

>>11571305
thanks for the help lad. like i said the books got so convoluted i eventually got lost and i forgot some of the plot threads. and being a wagecuck it took me like a year to get through the series so usually it was months between plot resolutions for me.

>>11571133
whoa what a huge shocking twist of the post. It's almost like you're a dumb faggot?

>>11572805
Calm down Thom

>>11572363
So in order to defeat SJW's he became one of them?
Oh the ironing.

>>11571684
I know

New thread faglords:
>>11573182
>>11573182
>>11573182