/lit/ - Literature

Cups of coffee should be a universal right instead

>>11560331
Schopenhauer

>>11560331
No one asked to be alive desu. Parents make you exist and then tend to neglect you for other distractions anyhow so you raise yourself now. Pining for the void is perfectly natural but people recognize largely that talking about it is painful for most and pointless for all.

Hume

Ill take universal income over suicide legal, having a job is the only aspect of life that really makes me wanna off myself

>>11560426
This. I don't know how people do it.

Yes, it should but it never will because society "needs" you. One less person means one less wageslave to contribute to society.
Hell, most countries don't even allow euthanasia. When a horse breaks his legs, he's put down straight away but when a human becomes a "vegetable", they must keep living?

>>11560331
I'll take a non-philosophical approach, just an historical approach.
There was a time when the Rome actually legalized suicide. But, it was abolished soon afterwards. Not for an ethical reason, but for the economic reason. "shortage of labor force" made suicide illegal again.

>>11560334
Socialism but just for coffee? I support this idea.

do with yourself as you wish

>>11560331
Who cares? If you really wanted to kill yourself legality wouldn't matter whatsoever

Philipp Mainländer

Jumping out of a plane is the most /lit/ way to commit suicide. Prove me wrong.

>>11560854
So the only thing keeping people from killing themselves was the fact that a law prohibited it? That doesn't make sense.

>>11561196
He's full of shit, suicide was only illegal for slaves, soldiers and those accused of capital crimes (as there was a legal loophole where suicide prevented a confiscation of property). You could apply to the Senate and get hemlock free of charge.

>>11560331
your body belongs to more than yourself

>>11560343
Schopy was not an advocate of suicide

>>11561267
Yep, it belongs to all the writhing worms and maggots underground.

>>11561275
based and redpilled

>>11560855
This! So much this!

>>11560855
>>11560334
upvoted

>>11560331
This question makes no sense, because a right is a faculty to to something or to be the beneficiary of a prestation. In other words, when there is a right, there is a legal relation (a relation between people that is governed by law). I don't really see the point of legalisig or bannig suicide, because it does bot involve other poeple. Supposig it is recognised as an universal right. From here he can draw a conclusion that suicide is a social value.
Supposing it is banned, the bannig of sucide itself is absurd, because there is no way you can guarantee the respect of that law. Dead people cannot be taxed, fined or imprisoned. The most you cand do is about what they left.

One problem is, in particylar, interestig and that is the legalisation of assisted suicide. Some countries criminal law systems (I suppose) don't take as legal the consent of the one who ends his life

>>11560331
>universal
stopped reading right there. The interesting thing about the morality of suicide is that NO LEVEL of discourse is gonna sway my decision to die if that’s my resolve, unlike say abortion or diet. It’s one of the few black and white practical decisions that can’t be recovered from.

>>11560331
you could kill yourself right now

>>11561415
plz no bully

I'm thinking of walking into the hood brandishing a gun so I can get some friendly hood niggas to politely turn my ass into swiss cheese. I'm too pussy to do it myself.

>>11560331
If you count Milton Friedman as a philosopher, then yes.

He argues that the right to commit sudoku is an important expression of personal liberty. If you're not allowed to take your own life, then you're basically someone else's property, like >>11561236 says.

>>11561540
We're always active or potential workers for the economy, hence the ever constant dissuasion agaisnt suicide.
It originated from religious roots in society but the idea agaisnt it has clearly changed.
(see: friedman's "argument" agaisnt it)