/lit/ - Literature

Awful writing, awful world, awful characters. No redeeming qualities whatsoever. You're wasting your time.

>>11558551
it's not a real world

>>11558551
It sucks and is too long

Well written except in spots where Erickson is clearly cutting corners 4 deadline. Lot of it is totally bizarre propaganda, but also a sort of smart anti-hegelian saga about multiculti imperialism. Has a sheer humanity that GoT totally lacks. Affirms that epic fantasy is aesthetically superior to the vast majority of tv and all comics/cartoons/anime/manga. Overall 5/5 stars highly recommended.

>>11558688
>Lot of it is totally bizarre propaganda
Explain

wanted to start this series, is it libtard shit?

>>11558724
Lether is a teardown of Ayn Rand's utopia

It's based as fuck, the highest of all high fantasy and mythology
Unfortunately most people don't make it past the first book and it doesn't really find it's stride until book three, and doesn't even introduce extremely important characters until book four
I get the impression that Erikson didnt start taking himself seriously until book four but he got really lucky with three

>>11558580
t. didnt make it past the battle at Moon's Spawn

>>11559253
>teardown of Ayn Rand's utopia

bullying the retarded ... guess he was out of ideas

>>11559253
I don't know anything about Ayn Rand except for a few Rush songs, will I be able to enjoy it?

>>11559312
Loads of people like Bioshock but never read Ayn R*nd, surely you'll be able to enjoy this

>>11558688
>also a sort of smart anti-hegelian saga about multiculti imperialism
what did he mean by this

Anybody read any of Esslemont's Malazan books?
I just finished House of Chains and I am gonna start this bad boy before getting into Midnight Tides, I hear Esslemont is a much better writer than Erikson. Sort of an apprentice surpasses the master type of scenario.
Anyway, I'm stoked to start it. Dancer is probably my favorite character so far from the main series, besides Karsa of course.

>>11559249
no but there are powerful female characters so if you are triggered by strong independant women then steer clear

>>11558551
It has human women in full plate armour fighting side by side their male peers and they never get raped. It's completely fantastical.

>>11559471
>they never get raped
A female soldier getting raped literally triggers the biggest plot point in the entire book 3. Please at least pretend you have read books before commenting on them

>>11559485
Oh, I'm sorry I've only read the 1000 pages long schlock that is Gardens of the Moon. Let me read 32 thousand more pages of this shit to get a clearer picture. So sorry.

>>11559487
>comments on a series of books without even having finished the first one
>gets visibly offended and angry when this fact is pointed out
>reads genre fiction without enjoyjng it, even though it only exists for distraction and enjoyment
Ladies and gentlemen... /lit/

>>11559494
If none of the full plate-wearing women soldiers get raped in the first book then it's a nonsense book and you can take your libshit elsewhere and defend it there. Stupid fucking frogposter.

>>11559507
Book 1 admittedly is a nonsense book. Its pretty much the opening credits of the series, not even the first real scene. So yea, you didnt even make it through the opening credits. Nice

>>11559249
Every army is half gruff female soldiers and religion along with the gods is shown as irredeemably evil. You tell me.

>>11558688
>This level of desperation
Malazan is about the level of capeshit and it's disgustingly bad. Erikson, just like Bakker, is a retard that blames people and calls them stupid for not understanding his high school tier writing. No matter what faults GRRM has, he's still a hundred times better. He is, for one, a real fucking writer.

>"He is, for one, a real fucking writer."
>writes genre fiction
What did anon mean by this

>>11559640
It means that he understands writing a book doesn't mean describing the scenes from your shitty scripts nobody wanted, dumbass. It means he is professional and not a whiny bitch that literally starts his book with IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS YOU JUST AREN'T ONE OF THE SMART PEOPLE.

>>11558580
Also full of niggers and women.

>>11559663
t. not one of the smart people

>>11559679
Call me up when his characters have distinct personalities and when his dialogue is more than Spidey level quipping.

>>11559540
Frankly if the opening credits are over 200,000 words long and spectacularly uninspiring, only the most desperate will continue with the series.

>>11559464
Are they actually strong women or are they wheel of time tier strong women?

>>11559471
>It has human women in full plate armour fighting
Dropped

>>11559723
>listening to the guy who didnt even read the first book
yikes

>>11559737
But I did read the first book. You're embarrassing yourself, buddy ol' boy.

>>11559737
Well I’m not about to listen to the guy boasting about 1000 pages of opening credits.

>>11559430
Still hoping for an opinion on any of Esslemont's work if anybody feels like showing up to this thread who wants to say something positive-ish about Malazan and has actually read it.

>>11558551
I wanted to like it so fucking badly
But the best parts of it are also the most minor parts of it

>>11559590

jesus sounds s/oy tier, thanks for the heads up. ill avoid.

>>11560194
Esslemont is great. I've read Knight of Knives and the Crimson Gaurd and those were more fun than the Erickson Books. You are not constantly struggling with the plot and the characters are more lifelike imo.

>>11558597
>Real world
No such thing exists

>>11558551
have you read the black company? it's that except actually high fantasy.

>>11560642
Ya youre right, I just read the first 30 pages and its a great change of pace from Eriskon. The characters and the setting feel very alive and relevant and I dare say comfy, whereas Erikson is really grimdark and dusty. I mean dont get me wrong I wouldnt have already read 4 of Eriksoms tomes if I didnt like it a lot, but this Esslemont jam is a MUCH needed change of pace

>>11559408

It's a posty fantasy series about an imperialist nation that's a multicultural (i.e. multiracial) hellhole.

>>11560874
>posty
What?