/lit/ - Literature

Brandon Sanderson

>>11533746
a hack

>tfw just finished stations Of the tide
Wanted more closure but it was good

>>11533746
Yeah this is going in my cringe compilation.

>>11533746
Brandon "I take a vacation from writing my big epic fantasy series by writing one of my other 4 big epic fantasy series" Sanderson

>>11533746
Brandon "the anime mormon" Sanderson

>>11533796
i guess its his way of not getting burnt out, which i guess makes sense but yeah hopefully we wont have to wait 20 years for him to finish the next 7 stormlight archive books

Are the chronicles of amber good? Other people on the internet seem to think it gets bad over the last books. I didn’t like Malazan because I’m racist so the author hates me along with Lovecraft, for reference

Best girl

>>11533907

>>11533951
uh but you see Wolfe was only intentionally writing poorly because Severian is a idiot and-

every half a year or so i fall into the same trap of trying to find any good steampunk books and it's always the same YA shit over and over, girl (finds powers) meets boy and saves an empire/city or generic flying pirate ship adventures . So far the only semi decent stuff i've found is The Strange Affair of Spring Heeled Jack. Where is the good shit in this god forsaken subgenre FUCK

>>11533746

is this cunt shit? he looks like he writes dog shit.

>>11534051
Because steampunk is stupid, it only looks sort of cool sometimes so it can only work in games and movies. It’s a terrible frame for a good story

>>11534051
HAREMS
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40780714-agents-of-the-crown

>>11534100
idk mannnnnnnnnnnmmn i just. dont. KNOW. I've heard good steampunk audioplays (Jago & Litefoot) before so I keep hoping there's someone out there writing good shit in the style.

>>11534108
sigh it seems somewhat fun with the buddy investigator team however the promise of SEXY stuff makes me think it'll be trash

Why doesn't anyone call him out for Severian raping Jolenta?

>only 6 wheel of time books left

>>11534137
https://youtu.be/fqdh5r-6bfo

>>11533746
why cant you write good prose my man? Why dont you give just a little bit of a fuck about the aesthetics of your work? Its not all about muh worldbuilding and plot, the way a story is told matters, language and artistry in writing MATTER, finding the BEST way to say something is the perfect ideal. Why do you have to be so prolific but put out stuff a high schooler could have phrased? Take more fucking time being a writer instead of just printing for the sake of it SHIT

>>11534176
>Coming to fantasy for prose of all things

Do you play video games for plot too?

>>11534108
>harem book has harem on the title
Is this a good way of discarding shitty books? It strikes me as a particularly bad strategy of selling a pile of turd.
>"i'll just write whatever meaningless vomit and put some women in it. also, gotta tell them readers there's women in it or else they won't know to buy it"
I feel fantasy has a vast space to explore harem as theme, since you can have pretty much any cultural type in it and monogamist culture is not a global truth, but when you advertise it like that it's just to cover a weak low effort plot. Not that it matters for a pulp book anyway, since the readers expect that and it's probably what they want anyway.

What are some good fantasy that have harems, if any? I see a lot of science fiction exploring morality and taboo, but rarely any fantasy do the same. Which is a little ironic, since science fiction tends to extrapolate from our reality and tries to predict what'll come, so you'd guess our morals would be a little different, but still somewhat closely related. While fantasy, being completely separate from our reality, tends to loom closer to what we perceive as normal, even though it has the possibility of thinking the whole fundamentals of the cultures it describes. The most pathetic attempts that come to mind is sandersom's ungloved hands joke.
>has infinite possibilities of exploring taboos
>chooses the displaying of skin on grappling body part
But what should I've expected from a mormon, anyway? A real debate on customs? ha.

>>11534218
>not reading fantasy with great prose
You sad little man

>>11534247
I've already read all 5 fantasy books that fit that criteria.

>>11534254
Name them

>>11534264
Shadow of the Torturer
Claw of the Conciliator
The Sword of the Lictor
Citadel of the Autarch
A Wizard of Earthsea

>>11534051
You might try The Guns Above by Robyn Bennis. It's essentially about the crew of a zeppelin in a "secondary world" (or whatever the fuck they call "it's like earth but fantastic" stuff) that's having it's WWI but hasn't perfected internal combustion engines yet so they're stuck with steam turbines. Man characters are the usual stereotypes from military science fiction: tough woman who's got her first command and is out to prove herself, and a minor nobleman/fop who makes his living sponging off older women and gets sent to spy on the captain because her commanders want her to fail. So like I said, very typical military fiction story.

As a machinist with a interest in history and aeronautics the airships are "plausible enough" instead of the usual "lmao it flies because tesla is sooo coool do you read The Oatmeal too?!" steampunk bullshit. The German army used plywood airships later in WWI due to their Navy having priority for the more water-resistant doped cloth ones, by the late 1800s steam turbines small enough to power small boats existed, and steam powered heavier than air aircraft were routinely experimented with up until the 30s.

>>11534343
so girl meets boy and saves an empire? Think i'll keep looking

Time to read slan. Will take recs on anything else.

>>11534405
No their relationship is professional. Like I said the guy is essentially a gigolo who sponges off older women, he's more interested in the captain's estranged mother than her.

As to the plot it's less "saves a empire" and more of a "lone ship brings advance warning of a attack" setup.

>>11534223
>But what should I've expected from a mormon, anyway
Polygamy at least

Sequel when?

>>11534476
Read Accelerando, The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch, and Red Mars

>>11534944
Late October last I heard.

>Most of the shit discussed here is dumb fun with shit prose
>Sanderson is the only one that gets called out

>>11534981
Thanks m8. Just finished slan and I’ll star accelerando.

>>11533730
Sooooooo is this any good? Someone gave this to me and I said I'd read it but it doesn't look good to me.

>>11535281
Forgot pic like a retard

>>11535281
tell him that you'll read it when the last books gets released

>>11535297
but anon that's never...ohhhh I get it

>>11535297
>>11535316
Is it good though?

should I reread cryrptonomicon when I finish my computer science ba because a quarter of it went over my head

What is a series about cute teenage boys becoming sweaty and well-thewed warriors with minimal f*male characters?

>>11535345
If you enjoy a literal perfect human in every way. He also wrote himself into a hole with no good solution in sight. That said I've enjoyed the first two books, but I no longer care so I'll probably not pick up the next one.

>>11534100
>>11534051
you might actually find better stuff in comics. check out monstress and lady mechanika

>>11533854
slut

>>11534279
A see a woman author there.
That is... problematic.

>>11535585
You do know you fags have your own containment board?

Back to business as usual.

I'm reading The Black Company and enjoying it.
I've just read The White Rose and now I'm wondering which book to read next. Shadow Games, which is the main novel, or The Silver Spike, which is the spinoff. Both happen immediately after The White Rose.

>>11536058
There's two translations for this book. Both directly from Russian but there are differences, especially with a bad mistranslation in the old version that messes up the timeline.

>>11534165
Did you like the The Dragon Reborn ?

I loved the Eye of The World, liked the Great Hunt and hated The Dragon Reborn.

Does it get better again with the 4th ? The 3rd left such a bad taste on my mouth i started to read another series to take a breath.

>>11536130
Seconding this, I couldn't even finish DR, it was embarassingly bad. I will never even consider going back to WoT unless I read literally every other fantasy book ever written

Hey /sffg/ what are some dark fantasy novels that are sort of similar to the manga berserk.

>>11536140
I wouldn't say it was bad. It was just not i signed up for.

I mean, NO FUCKING RAND POV CHAPTER.

He's the main protag and 90% of the last two books were about him and suddenly, you read a third 800 pages long book where he barely appears and even worst... You are following two bitches you don't even care for, for about more than 60% of the book.

>>11536084
how do we know it's the good one

>>11536071
I read it Shadow Games first, and I think with the events and the timeline it was better that way.

>>11536194
>What is some X similar to Y
>Doesn't say what elements of Y they'd want from X

Every time.

>>11536130
The fifth book was my favourite, I don’t think the series is worth the time but I’m too committed to quit.

>>11536071
Silver spike was bad, don’t read it unless you want a few of the main characters to be ruined.

What is the most autistic fantasy novel or series?

My diary desu

hello yes im new to reading what are some manga similar to book of the new sun?

what is the NGE of cyberpunk?

>>11537159
Mardock Scramble

What is the Game of Thrones of literature?

>>11536554
If it takes part 13 years after the visit and not 30

Whats dantes inferno/purgatory/heaven like to read? Thinking about getting a copy

What is the Dark Souls of science-fiction, /soft/?

>>11535255
How did you feel about Slan?

What 10 books/series would you say are /sffg/-core?

>>11536130
>>11536245
Rand gets much more POV chapters, TDR is the exception and the next two are focused on him a lot. You'll probably like them, I did. Then again we have opposing opinions -- I didn't give a single fuck about Rand until the end of Book 3, so I loved not having to deal with him at all, and I hated the EotW almost all the way through.

>>11537342
sanderson

>>11536245
Rand has more PoV chapters in the whole series than anyone else by a hilariously wide margin and you throw a fit over one book not constantly following him?

>>11536245
I think long fantasy series are not for you if you get this upset when something changes and one of the books is different. This sounds a lot like autism. Is this why A Feast For Crows is so hated by this thread? Because it's different enough that autists screech about how their favorite characters are missing?

Just finished Ninefox Gambit

Why the fuck would Kujen allow attaching Jedao to Cheris, knowing full well her aptitude for math and that this would make Jedao not need Kujen anymore. Also, if Kujen or anyone wanted to kill Jedao at the end, they must have known that an exotic attack would leave Cheris alive with a means to bring Jedao back, so why do it that way. It doesn't make sense.

>tfw reading martial god of asura hoping it gets better.
>chapter 700
>it doesn't

>>11537342
Literally wheel of time and botns.

Everything else is peripheral.

>>11537432
>Because it's different enough that autists screech about how their favorite characters are missing?
Meanwhile in reality it's normal people that get invested in characters and its autists that read for inane world-building details and don't care if the human element disappears because they never related to it to begin with

>>11537415
It's a fair point. Especially when the people we got instead are the worst in the series.

>>11537509
Hear, hear!
Damn autists.

>>11534279
no Rothfuss? kek

>>11537578
>Sex with a woman is like playing a fine blah blah blah...

Yeah, no.

>>11537584
he never wrote that

>>11534051
Come on dude, Against the Day is exactly what you’re looking for.

>>11537432
>enjoys a padded out a series with characters no one cares about
>literally the definition of an author losing the plot

>>11537342
This board has shit taste m9

>>11537450
anon it gets much much worse. I dropped it when chu feng whiteknighted a woman for the 5th time onyl for her to be a princess or whatever. Despite the fact he kills people for looking at him a roasty being chased for stealing something is a nono. Fuck chinks. I finished desolate era which was pretty good for chinkshit though, if you like wuxias i recc it.

>>11537342
BotNS
Hyperion
Blindsight
Wheel of Time
Malazan
Stormlight Archives
Three Body Problem

>>11537631
Here’s what he did write
>Call a jack a jack. Call a spade a spade. But always call a whore a lady. Their lives are hard enough, and it never hurts to be polite.
>I have known her longer, my smile said. True, you have been inside the circle of her arms, tasted her mouth, felt the warmth of her, and that is something I have never had. But there is a part of her that is only for me. You cannot touch it, no matter how hard you might try. And after she has left you I will still be here, making her laugh. My light shining in her. I will still be here long after she has forgotten your name.
>Denna is a wild thing," I explained. "Like a hind or a summer storm. If a storm blows down your house, or breaks a tree, you don't say the storm was mean. It was cruel. It acted according to its nature and something unfortunately was hurt. The same is true of Denna.
>Each woman is like an instrument, waiting to be learned, loved, and finely played, to have at last her own true music made. Some might take offense at this way of seeing things, not understanding how a trouper views his music. They might think I degrade women. They might consider me callous, or boorish, or crude. But those people do not understand love, or music, or me.

I can’t remember how many times I cringed reading his books but it was a lot.

So sffg. How many books on your bookshelf do you have just to show off to your guest?

>>11537816
Gormenghast and my collection of porn comics and pornstar biographies.

>>11537816
I haven't had guests in ~five years but if I did, I'd rather hide some books away.

>>11537438
IIRC it gets explained more in the second book and it's been a while since I read them but:
I think its implied that Kujen thought Jedao would come back to him if anything happened. It's been a while since I read them but want to say the Hexarchs think he only had a mental breakdown at Hellspin. Jedao was basically hoping they'd stick him in the black coffin or whatever it's called long enough until they got sloppy and gave him a body that was good at math.

>>11537118
i know this is a meme question but berserk is the closest.

Why is Wheel of Time so popular and Asoaif hated here?

>>11537705
Holy shit, and if that's consistent with the overall tone, I don't even want to think what it implicates

>>11537705
Oh dear.

>>11537816
I use a kindle.

>>11537939
>Asoaif
boring shit with trash writing and no direction
>WoT
/sffg/ are hipsters

>>11537954
>boring shit
Not nearly as bad as WoT
>trash writing
Not nearly as bad as WoT
>no direction
Not nearly as bad as WoT

>>11537939
I hate WOT and Malazan--retread Tolkien and Autist Grimperp, respectively. Asoiaf was ok until book 4.

>>11537983
>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelt fouler. By the time the moon came up, she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew.
Please cherrypick me an example of worse writing from WoT

>>11537983
Did he just offend your writer husbando

>>11537993
yeah try halfway through book 2

I'm reading through the Xeelee Sequence, almost finished with Timelike Infinity right now. What's /lit/'s opinion about it?

>>11537677
Yeah desolute era looks good but the guy having a giant snake uncle killed the immersion for me.

Might pick it back up.

>>11537705
What a shithouse perspective.

>>11535345
real talk the first one is decent and not bad for a gateway fantasy reader. The second one gets really stupid in places and the author is such an unlikable douche nozzle whose unlikely to ever write the last book anyway that you'll grow to hate it in retrospect

>>11537705
Legit laughing out loud at this. That guy needs to come to terms with reality and stop putting the pussy on a pedestal.

>>11537993
>Asoiaf was ok until book 4.
This

>>11537915

Yes, but unlike other hexarchs, Kujen actually knows what Jedao's plan is. And at the start of the book Mikodez explicitly tells Kujen about Cheris's math skills.

>>11538001
You'll have to ask them brainlet.

>>11537998
He didn't mention Guy Gavriel Kay though

>>11537996
How is that bad writing?

>>11537993
>Asoiaf was ok until book 4.
Book 4 is arguably the strongest in the series. The fact it is hated by the autists on this board only solidifies its greatness. 99% of complaints about it are just autistic shrieking about characters not appearing.

>>11537509
More like I don't have an autistic self insert fantasy where the characters are my best friends and I'm fine getting to learn about new ones. You throw a fit when anything changes too suddenly and refuse to adapt or learn anything new. It shows that you don't actually appreciate anything in the story and it's just escapism for you.

>>11537705
This guy really knows his audience, supreme gentlemen all.

>>11538227
Not that anon but you do understand that characters play a huge role in getting readers interested in the novel in the first place. Doubly so for fantasy, which is a horribly abused dead horse.
Without characters what else is there to grab your attention?
Not a lot of people are interested in autistically detailed descriptions of magic system, cosmology or worldbuilding.

>>11537996
>*smooths skirt*
>*tugs braid*
>*smacks rear*
>Women are so stupid!
>Men are so stupid!

>>11537941
it's pretty much an unironic cuck fantasy

>>11538216
Book 4 was the last good one.

>>11538227
>it's just escapism for you.
Isn't that the point?

>>11537705
I couldn't tell if he was mocking or supporting this mentality

>>11538382
Yours is the wrong kind of escapism anon.
Big difference.

>>11537996
The 5 page bath scene.

>>11537705

>>11538382
It's fine if that's all it is for you, but if that's the case I don't know why you bother talking about it with people since you obviously don't really give a shit about anything in the story.

>>11538556
>since you obviously don't really give a shit about anything in the story.
What?

>>11536130

I quit after book 6. The fucking women are awful and all the same.

>>11537001

Prince of Thorns. 100% total trash tier.

>>11537432
I absolutely loved AFFC. It was beautifully written for a Martin book.

TDR was a let down in the writing, the world is what will keep me going and Mat/Perrin chapters were pure joy to me.

I just had a problem wasting 500 pages on Tar Valon adventures of Nynave and Egwene

>>11538025
lmao, the snake is super irrelevant, also theres much more retarded shit. Theres some serious chink philosophy as well which is really clowny

>>11538696
Nynaeve is one of the best characters in the series, it's just hard for new readers to appreciate her especially early in the story. You can be assured at least that the story never spends that long away from Rand as a PoV ever again. The same unfortunately cannot be said of Matt and Perrin. Perrin is totally absent from one of the later books and Matt is absent for long stretches at a time as well. Matt though single handedly saves book 9 from being a waste of time, he's brilliant.

>>11537939
Everyone hate on ASoIaF and WoT have had some new readers during the last year. During my time in this general the threads epic fantasy of choice have varied between Stormlight, WoT, Malazan and Black Company.

>>11538604
>The fucking women are awful and all the same.
Except for best girl

>>11538696
>Perrin chapters were pure joy to me.
???

>>11538882
He's still in the early part of the series anon, he hasn't seen what Perrin is like when it's just him and Faille.

>>11538882
What, you don't enjoy 5 books of stalking a bunch of largely irrelevant Aiel, being angsty about your gf and NOT having sex with one of the better female characters in the series?

>>11538813
Mat was ruined by Tylin.

>>11538900
Mat was at his absolute best when he was wooing Tylin. After they got married he became pretty irrelevant so there's not much weight to saying he was ruined. It's more like he was basically written out of the story after that.

>>11538898
It was only like 2 and a half books, but it's still longer than it had any reason or right to be. There's just no excuse for it when it all ended up being completely pointless. The Aiel are defeated and dispersed and never mentioned again, Masema is killed and his followers scattered to the winds. Why did he drag it out for 2 and a half books? All he did was stall for time basically.

>>11538905
>Mat was at his absolute best when he was wooing Tylin
She raped him anon, Mat doesn't walk straight again.

>>11538938
Oh wait, Tylin, I had a brain fart and thought you were talking about Tuon. Yeah the stuff with Tylin got old.

>>11538882
It's the one i can the most easily relate to (i'm a gymrat)

Don't know how he turns out after TDR but he's a very pleasant character for now.

>>11538813
It's not that i hate her or anything. I for now just don't really like Egwene.

Nynaeve has potentiel but overall, my problem is that i did not feel prepared to go through Egwene and Nynaeve adventures : The Book in a entry named "The Dragon Reborn" especially after what happens at the end of the Great Hunt

What the FUCK was this? They threw out the whole 80s "Fuck the System" vibe for metaphysical wank

WHAT are some kino audiobooks?

Is pic related any good Got it super cheap at my library's used book sale

>>11539205
lotr has a full cast version thats pretty fucking excellent.

>>11539041
>I for now just don't really like Egwene.
That's cause you're sane. Egwene is a shit person. Nynaeve is great. So is Min. Moiraine is fantastic. Egwene though is a bait and switch character you think is going to be the main love interest then isn't, and then you think she's going to be a cool protagonist in her own right but she's just a wretched cunt.

>>11539348
Why is Elayne not well liked? On book 6 and she hasn't done anything so far that has pissed me of.

What are some novels that deal with Singularity, either pre or post?

>>11537705
This is pretty much in the ending of the books and was such a fucking let down.
The MC spends all book being a boss despite everyone hating him and saving this girl's ass, then she just leaves to fuck around some more, in the meantime another hot girl from his school has completely fallen for him, but instead of either fighting for the one she likes or going for the one that likes him he just goes on with this "It's ok if she cucks me cause when I become someone important and she ends her whoring days she will come back to me" speech.
This is the main reason I will never read his following books.

>>11535345
Honestly it is not too bad, I read the first book and while the story is interesting you will basically come to realize soon enough that the protagonist is pretty much perfect, everything shitty that could happen to a person happens to him, and everyone that is against him is an asshole, yet he remains the good natured angel he has always been, he excels at everything he tries and every time an antagonist gets an upper-hand on him it is just a setup to an even greater victory for him some chapters later in the book.
I enjoyed the book enough to be able to ignore those obvious faults but that cuckpraising ending really killed any chance I had of reading the next one. see >>11537705

>>11539539
Accelerando

>>11539539
Accelerando
Blindsight

>>11539403
Because of what happens for the rest of the series, basically every plotline she's involved with turns into her getting kidnapped. Also because Min and Aviendha are just better characters

>>11539213
Report back once you've read it.

Never heard of that book until now.

>>11534223
It's trash, but it knows its trash so it's upfront about it. It's the male fapfiction equivalent to those trashy novels for women like this, where 5 minutes in the protagonist is giving her werewolf boyfriend a bj:

It's low effort, low hanging fruit and it will sell enough to warrant its creation regardless of how much you hate it unfortunately.

>>11537816
Just one keeper shelf. I'm a slow reader and most of my titles are digital.

>>11537450
it gets better after 2800

>>11537816
I have a bookshelf in my living room full of nice hardback editions of my favorite books that is purely for decoration. My home office has 4 bookcases full of paperback books and manga that I actually read though.

>>11539213
Hmm the story sounds interesting. I’m picky about prose tho so idk if I’ll try it.

>>11538001
It's underrated but John C. Wright did the concept better in Count To A Trillion.

>>11538604
Jordan only had two women in his life ever: his mother and his wife. Guess what they were like.

>>11539213
I downloaded it and it looks like the prose isn’t too overblown so I’ll add this to my to read list because I like airships

I like Ian M. Banks and Alistair Reynolds before he started writing about elephants and shit

Can you recommend any similar authors pls

>>11540398
You like British space opera. Look up writers like Ken MacLeod, M. John Harrison, Neal Asher, Peter F. Hamilton. They can be pretty hit or miss depending on your taste, but something might pique your interest.

For a specific recommendation, try A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge if you haven't already.

>>11537342
Lotr
wheel of time
malazan

>>11540410
ty

>>11534073
yes, he writes complete dog shit but he's a nice dude. his lectures on youtube are comfy

>>11537705
>tfw i was the guy who started the rothfuss hate and started posting these quote here 3 years ago

god im so based, everyone worship me

>>11540519
https://youtu.be/aF_Ijr621tM?t=23

Is Lyenesse trilogy by Jack Vance good? Thinking of picking it up.

>>11540580
Very good, one of the best

Lmao 1/2

>>11540757
2/2

Christ one of thems even in cosplay

>>11538001
It's pure shit. I couldn't even force myself to read the second half, just skimmed it in case it gets better (it doesn't).

Basically it's the author dumping his cool ideas for a scifi on you, except he can't actually make a decent story out of them. I saw no reason to care about anything that was happening in the book. Some of it looks like typical beginner writer trouble, so I'm wondering if I should try his later books.

>>11540580
It is.

This shit was choice. Thanks for whoever bullied me into reading it.

Malazan boiz

>>11541091
Malazan is Redditcore

The part in BotNS where they're just telling stories in the pelerine camp is top comfy

>>11541162
>BotNS

>fantasy kingdom changes its ways to allow women to join the army
>this is a good thing

>>11541196
>turns out half the army was women is disguise anyway

>>11537169
weird way of spelling Ergo Proxy

>>11541182
>you

>>11541091
You look like you'd watch your oneitis fuck chad

I want to fug Y.T.

>>11541221
oh i'm sorry I can't bring myself to care about the king of autists and his non-adventures

>>11541247
That might not be legal in your area

>>11541267
only in universe of course

>>11540354
Do you think they beat his arse raw on a daily basis?

>>11540757
>>11540760
Man, the Campbell has fallen harder than the Hugo and the Nebula.

>>11541360
>caring about any of those things

>>11541387
I don't but once upon a time all three of those awards did some good for sci-fi. Now they're all worthless.

>tfw started playing dota again
>all reading schedule gone
fuck

>>11540757
>>11540760
>>11541360
>>11541418
>i need to virtue signal about how books i've never read are bad because of my political views

>>11537186
Must reads.

>>11541196
>fantasy kingdom change their ways to allow women in the army
>fourty percent of them com back from their first deployment pregnant.

>>11540397
rec some good airship lit

>>11541534
dumb smelly dotard

>>11541534
i think theres two dota fan novels that are actually decent. one is about lina inverse and how she came from the slayers universe to participate in the defense of the ancients and the other is about anti-mage and why he hates magic so much.

>>11541723
>one is about lina inverse and how she came from the slayers universe to participate in the defense of the ancients

wew

>>11541723
>about anti-mage and why he hates magic so much.
>demons killed muh brothers
wow so interesting i'm sure

>>11541728
you do know pretty much all the characters are from pop culture, anime or videogames right?
lina is straight up lina inverse, morphling is a magic the gathering card and windrunner is sylvansas windrunner from wow. pretty much all characters are some sort of reference. admittedly most or wow references since the orignal models were from wc3 and just used that way.

>>11540757
Quite ironic since Campbell was a right winger.

>>11541243
That's accurate

>urban fantasy
>nobody thinks of solving their problems with guns
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
So what if the guy has super strength of something? Just shoot him already! This is one of the reasons I hate urban fantasy so much. The other is, of course, the convoluted explanations of why nobody else notices the presence of the supernatural.

>>11541853
Nobody writes Urban Fantasy set in America though.
Urban fantasy is only good when it's set in civilised countries with a long history which you can bring into the present.

15 years ago i have read Mote in Gods Eye translated to my native language. It was okay, but didnt memorize the authors or the translated title. Couple years pass, since i like sci-fi a friend showed me Halo, he told me it was based on a book. Found out later that it was just slightly based on it, but still i have read the translated version of Ringworld. It was a good read.
Fast forward to today, I stumbled into Halo and recalled Larry Nivens Ringworld. Looked up what other stuff he did, and found Mote in Gods Eye, i started listening to the audio book. Whilst i was listening i had a funny feeling, and only when i was halfway through the book realized that i have already read this 15 years ago but in my native language. My mind was blown. Have anything like this happened to any of you?

About the book, does the Flood from Halo have any connection to the Moties from the book? I cant stop thinking that the Moties are more Flood like creatures than the primitive humanoids from Ringworld.

I have a complete hard cover 1st u.s. edition collection of the Harry Potter series, anyone wanna buy? Like new condition only read once

>>11541592
>I need to defend some hacks I've never read because of my political views

>>11541938
>'women can't do anything except cook and clean' is a political view
okay buddy

>>11541592
>>11541944
You leftypol faggots don't understand the terminology you steal. Laughing at terrible writers isn't in anyway virtue signaling. Also, you can't fucking virtue signal on 4chan. Everyone on here is anonymous.

>>11541946
They just won a fucking award, how can they be terrible?

>>11541953
based
>>11541946
>>>/r/t_d

>>11541944
>>11541953
>>11541955

>>11541958
oh yeah my bad, sorry I didn't dismiss an author because they're female and have dyed hair

>find book with nice synopsis
>it's written by a woman
Well, can't go wrong there. If it's good I'll be pleasantly surprised, and if it's bad (most likely) I'll know who to blame. Myself .

>>11541961
Dismissing someone with dyed hair should be encouraged no matter what the gender.

>>11541091
>autist took a photo of himself today to post on 4chan posing with a book
kys

>>11541924
>>>/biz/

>>11541961
You're one salty little bitch. No one has disparaged women but that hasn't stopped you from relentlessly screeching about misogyny.

Does anyone have any recommendations for an uplifting sci-fi/fantasy book?

>>11542268
Uplifting as in about the act of lifting up a species or uplifting as in makes you optimistic?

>>11542261
the only "relentless screeching" I'm seeing is from weenies angry that a woman wrote a book and that football man won't stand

>>11542268
I thought the Goblin Emperor was pretty good. A bit on the glurge side but ultimately enjoyable.

A Long Way To A Small Angry Planet is apparently comfy but it looks even more glurge/"firefly but twee" so I haven't bothered with it.

>>11542298
Man, fuck Firefly.

>>11542298
>angry
Now you're projecting your own feelings onto others. One guy laughed at the writers and another voiced disappoint. None of the people who have mocked/criticized those writers brought up their gender. Keep crying, fag.

>Darrell Schweitzer stated that "Dhalgren is, I think, the most disappointing thing to happen to science fiction since Robert Heinlein made a complete fool of himself with I Will Fear No Evil.

What did he mean by this?

>>11540757
>>11540760
>cosplaying as Rey
Well, that instantly confirms she doesn't have any taste. The Force Awakens was basically a worse version of A New Hope and The Last Jedi was a mess. Also, Rey is a poorly written, shallow character.

>>11542323
He meant Dhalgren is fucking shit. By the way, he wasn't the only sci-fi author who hated it:
>fellow writers such as Philip K. Dick and Harlan Ellison hated the novel. When the book appeared, Ellison wrote: "I must be honest. I gave up after 361 pages. I could not permit myself to be gulled or bored any further."

>>11542329
Nothing out of the Disney Wars is worth cosplaying.
Disney went so far as to kill one of the most iconic outfits ever.

>>11542305
The best part is lefties/libertarians gloming onto it because ~freedom~, when the story is blatantly CSA "lost cause" style apologia and a ooga-booga mindless savages.

I am entirely unsurprised that Joss Whedon turned out to be a sex pervert.

>>11542311
>I'M NOT ANGRY!
>YOU'RE THE ONE WHO'S ANGRY!
>AD HOMINEM AND ALSO YOU'RE GAY!

>>11542411
yeah think of all the Deep and Nuanced lore in Manchild Wars that Disney ruined such as the Darksaber, the Karen Travis Fandalorian books, the prequel movies, and the guy who had a suit covered in light sabers.

>>11542429
lmao, you won't quit. You keep baselessly accusing everyone who doesn't like those hacks of being misogynists and when someone insults you you whine about ad hominem. You're a whiny bitch and a hypocrite.

>>11542445
also both of palpatine's three-eyed mutant sons, the intricate backstory of that frogdog in Jabba's palace, the Yuuzhan Dong, etc

>>11542411
hnnnnnnnggggggggg

>>11542445
>>11542448
Star Wars is a fucking horrible franchise but the original trilogy is fine escapism. Nothing deep or worthy of the praise it gets but it's fine if you divorce it from the zeitgeist that surrounds it. Disney was smart to kill the EU but their own EU is almost as bad as the old EU.

>>11542429
Dude you need to either stop sperging or go back.
Defending the ladies honor and being a good male feminist will not net you any social capital here.

>>11542445
What are you blathering about?

>>11542323
>What did he mean by this?
He means, why doesn't sffg follow simple instructions to avoid books?
Since you want to be contrary, why don't you try HOGG by Delany?

>>11542411
That's a guy... right?

>>11542466
me in the back

>>11542454
It was such an icon of female empowerment and Disney buried it, those conservative bigots.

>>11542480
If you were there can you post a photo of her ass?

>>11542485
i fackin wish

>>11542485
>her

>>11542479
>>11542528
Porn has rotted your mind, anon.

>>11542607
The face is kinda cutish in that angle, but trannies know how to angle their head for photos.
>those man hands
>those man shoulders
>dat chin reduction / feminization surgery
>dat adams apple
>dat man chest
I'm sorry that you're so easily fooled by men playing dress up anon. I don't fault you, trannies have come a long way into fooling straight men they are female.

>>11542446
>i'm not mad i'm not mad!
>misandry!
>i'm so not mad i keep replying!
>you're the bitch!

>>11542466
>>11542485
>accuses somebody of being a "male feminist"
>claims a bikini is "a icon of female empowerment"

wow do you also write comic books?

I like having all my stories take place in the same universe/continuity. They don't tie into each other much storywise, but I like knowing the characters are all doing stuff at the same time.

>>11542731
>>misandry!
No one has accused you of misandry. You're either baiting or legitimately retarded.

Is there any fantasy which isn't essentially anime?

>>11542763
Pre-1970 fantasy such as Tolkien and Robert E. Howard.

>>11538320
Flavour text, it's like you didn't start with the Greeks.

>>11542763
Discworld.

I read The Stars My Destination and i really enjoyed it, going to read The Demolished Man soon, any other recommendations?

>>11542833
Nova by delany, I only say this because I just read the demolished man and now I have just read Nova

>>11541946
>the terminology you steal

You know it's not originally a right-wing term, right?

>>11542912
You know they say it because they saw /pol/tards say it, right?

>>11541946
I've not seen a single bit of evidence that they are terrible writers though.

>>11542731

>>11542936
But they are women anon.
It is known.

>>11542925
It's just another term for people making an appeal to emotion by showing how X they are. "You should trust my opinions on video games because I have 1500 hours in Halo" or "unlike those basedbean eating liberals I am trustworthy because I call anybody who disagrees with me a virtue signaler."

>>11542763
Define "essentially anime".

>>11537705
Jesus

>>11542311
>One guy laughed
>samefagging this hard

>>11543054
>in other words I don't read at all
Nice job retard. Go back to your uneducated stinking shithole.

>>11543488
Autism.

I enjoyed ready player one's book, but the movie was abysmal. I really thought the visual medium would have translated that book better, but stealburg had to fuck it up with cliches and "family". His aunt hated his ass, all of a sudden she defending him against her druggie bf? And wtf was with the cliched comical villians? Wtf was with the "i'm 11", "never give out your name, but here is mine", and the cheesy quests?

I am giving up movies entirely. I'm sure mortal engines will also get the fucked up treatment. Fuck people fucking up enjoyable books. Same shit happened with Percy Jackson. Is it so hard to make an abridged visual version? Do you think I want to see how you interpreted something?

List books you liked that got the "movie treatment".

>>11543618
harry potter and lotr
nothing else.

>>11543626
So you liked the movie treatment hobbit?

>>11543636
hobbit isn't lotr

>>11541091
I just got Deadhouse Gates

>>11543495
>Go back to your uneducated stinking shithole.
That's where we aREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what are some books where the female love interest doesn't cocklust after the MC within seconds of introduction?

>>11540398
>I like Ian M. Banks and Alistair Reynolds
>Can you recommend any similar authors pls
Not sure about similar, but I do like both of those authors, and I also like the Titan/Wizard/Demon trilogy by John Varley for example, or the "Dread Empire's Fall" series by Walter Jon Williams. All books with some good action, interesting characters and a good plot.

>>11541207
This Anon has patrician taste

>>11544211
The Vorkosigan series. Like the only exception I can think of is the time when Miles gets locked in a basement with a horny supersoldier girl.

>>11543710
Hope you enjoy it, it's pretty heavy

>>11542479
>every female that is the least bit athletic and muscular mus be tranny or shemale or pucciboi
>an international tranny conspiration is underway to seduce me because I am just too manly for my own good

What's some good pre-WWII scifi for someone who doesn't tend to like older books?

anyone else notice all the similarities between the first wheel of time book and fellowship of the ring?
>party has to run from dark men looking for them.
>they need to get to a safe place.
>one of the party who is supposed to be a warder/ranger is actually an uncrowned king and the greatest man to ever live, but he just really doesnt want to be
>one wizard/aes sedai to fight off all enemies
>theyre being followed by a scumbag who was once tortured but let loose by the dark lord(gollum/padan fain)
one of the party has even been touched by a dark evil lord and will never be the same
its just that jordan decided to draw out his first book to 700 pages instead of 200.

>>11544630
That's why it's called genre fiction m8.

>>11544670
surely they cant ALL be like this?
can they?

>>11544674
>surely they cant ALL be like this?
Without knowing what you're referring to I'll say no, but most are.

>>11537705
God fucking damn. Anyone who's read this shit or recommended it to anyone else should immediately kill himself. And i thought Sanderson was bad.

Post great and / or obscure sci-fi / fantasy from your country

Pic related, alt history science fiction novel set in the 1930's in a timeline where the Holy Roman Empire still exists, with a detective story main plot

Fun as fuck

>>11544763
it's not great but i'll post it anyway
this is a folklore
>princess marries a dog
>both of them made a son
>son killed the dog because he failed hunting
>mother chase away her son
>turns out the dog was related to a god so the princess granted an everlasting beauty
>years pass
>son came back, see her mother didnt know it's her
>fall in love
>both together until mother realize it's her son
>mother made her son do an impossible task if he wants to marry her
>hes almost done
>the mother cheats so he fails the task
>he became so mad he kicked a boat and it turned into a mountain

Similar hardish sci fi like revelation space?

also
>tfw no conjoiner gf

>>11544862
>One day a Sundanese king went to a jungle to hunt but then got lost and separated from his guard. The king urinated upon the bushes and his urine accidentally collected in a dried coconut shell. The Celeng Wayungyang, which happened to be in the vicinity, drank the king's urine to quench her thirst. Unbeknownst to her, the urine she had drunk contained a bit of his sperm and that subsequently impregnated Celeng Wayungyang. Being an animal demigod, she became instantly pregnant and bore a child just hours later.
lmao this shit is wack

>>11545092
You read the Poseidon's Children books?
You could also try reading the Polity novels by Neal Asher, but I've only read one of those.

>>11544630
Jordan’s a hack

which malazan character is

/ourguy/

>>11545277
>Neal Asher
oh yeah I remember reading some of that
Something about a cyborg mummy on a swamp planet with immortal zombie people and slaver crabs. Was fun, but felt like I was reading a spinoff or side story in the middle of a series.

>>11545463
Brood

>>11544763
that sounds awesome. is there an english translation?

>>11533730
>how many books did you not read for the year?
?
>how many books do you acquire a month?
I buy 1-2 books a month and pirate 3-4.
>what are you planning to read next?
Gormenghast

>>11544630
it's comfy

>>11538846
>During my time in this general the threads epic fantasy of choice have varied between Stormlight, WoT, Malazan and Black Company.

I wouldn't really call Black Company epic fantasy. Malazan is epic fantasy version of the Black Company, though.

>>11546075
It's a 9 book fantasy series, how is not epic fantasy?

>>11546097
What are you on about there's only three

>>11546103
The Black Company
Shadows Linger
The White Rose
Shadow Games
Dreams of Steel
Bleak Seasons
She Is the Darkness
Water Sleeps
Soldiers Live

>>11546107
So you listed the Black Company, Shadows Linger, and the White Rose trilogy. What's your point?

>>11546107
3 good ones

>>11546119
>Black Company, Shadows Linger, and the White Rose trilogy
Do you have autism? They are all part of the main Black Company series. Wikipedia, Goodreads, the Black Company Wiki and Amazon all say the same.

>it has more than 3 books so it's epic
I guess harry potter is epic now too eh?

>>11546180
If you're trying to suggest there's other books besides those three, it's on you to prove it.
>inb4 he posts some fanfiction

>>11545536
>felt like I was reading a spinoff or side story in the middle of a series.
That's because you were. Start at book one, not 8/9.

>>11546197
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Sleeps
>Water Sleeps is the eighth novel in Glen Cook's ongoing series, The Black Company.

>>11546197
Silver Spike

>>11546221
you are getting baited anon. why bother responding to that retard?

>>11546232
I'm done now that I've called him a retard. Had to get closure before I stopped posting.

>>11543495
Are you on the spectrum anon?
Do you suffer from the 'tism?
Or are you that much of an unfunny redditor?

>>11544508
Jules verne

>realise author is deliberately riffing on moby dick
>now just want to stop reading the book and read moby dick again

>>11544508
HG Wells

Could an aes sedai bond a dog or a wolf or a bear as a warder?

>>11546608
furfag

>>11546608
>>11546654

Finished Malazan books and Forge of Darkness/Fall of Light. Man that was great. Not that interested in the two necromancers so I think I'm going to star Wheel of Time for the first time ever.

>>11544508
H.G. Wells (The Time Machine is the best place to start)

anybody got good synonyms for an alchemists/potion makers workbench?

>>11546895
you mean the actual, physical piece of furniture? 'lab bench', I suppose. "bench top'. 'craft table'.

>>11546925
yes, thats what I meant. should have been more specific.

>>11546895
If you aren't tied to it being a workbench specifically you could use an alembic or crucible or something like that. I don't think there's a term specifically for a workbench though because "workbench" and the like work fine for that purpose.

>>11546925
"craft table" sounds like they're gonna bust out some crochet hooks and make a blanket.

>>11547007
thanks for the suggestion. in context, im describing mold which is growing on the actual bench itself, so i suppose workbench will do

Who recommended library of Heaven’s path it’s literally 900 chapters of the same joke repeated endlessly....

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>>11547251
>>11547251
>>11547251

>>11544328
>>I like Ian M. Banks and Alistair Reynolds
>>Can you recommend any similar authors pls
>Not sure about similar, but I do like
>>11540398
>I like Ian M. Banks and Alistair Reynolds before he started writing about elephants and shit
>Can you recommend any similar authors pls

Id recommend Dan Simmons. Hyperion especially.