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If math is _literally_ everything there is then what is philosophy but gibbering

>> No.11537172

>>11537167
You don't understand what math is

>> No.11537174

>>11537167
>math is literally everything

Explain

>> No.11537175

if atoms are literally everything then why do we have cooking shows and sport events that are not about atoms

>> No.11537176

>>11537167
Huh?

>> No.11537181

>>11537167
Math is the science of quantity. If something can not be quantified, or at least we don’t know how to quantify it, then math is irrelevant.

>> No.11537194

>>11537167
If you eat a vegan diet, maintain a healthy weight, do daily yoga, and never ever smoke evil facist cigarettes then you can avoid the trolley and live forever. I thought everyone knew this. You're gonna feel kinda silly when all these healthy kombucha drinking non-smokers are 150 with perfect skin and still running 10k's while you're long dead.

>> No.11537202

The only thing math is pseudoscience and jew propaganda.

>> No.11537212

>>11537181
>Math is the science of quantity
Quantity is only a small part of mathematics. There are fields of mathematics, that don't require the concept of quantity. (Set theory, for example).

I'm not arguing with, your point, there are fields where math is irrelavant, just thought you could've phrased it better.

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>>11537167
Your post is gibbering.

If you mean "literally" literally, then by your deffinition math is everything, philosophy is in everything, therefore philsophy is math.

If you don't mean "literally" literally, then your question is pointless, because that which is outside of math can, at least potentially, be the object of study for philosophy.

>> No.11537243

>>11537212
>a field about the collection of objects does not require the concept of quantity
Just because you’re not always performing calculations, or that you’re not staring at digits, does not mean that you aren’t dealing with quantity.

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>>11537175
Lol this.

Granularity and complexity necessitates specialized domains of knowledge outside of fundamentals.

>> No.11537285

>>11537243
How about geometry then?
For example, the Euclidian edge/ruler problems. There are no measurments. Of course, is an infinite set of points, but the quantity, does not matter, for the quantity of points on a circle is the same that on any line segment.

>> No.11537288

>>11537167
All physical reality can be reduced to mathematics. But there's a transcendent reality.

>> No.11537293

>>11537277
Physics is not otside of math though.

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>>11537175

>> No.11537309

>>11537167
I’m going to kill you.

>> No.11537311

>>11537288
Physical reality is a construction from empirical data. The magnetic field is as real as astrology, only the predictive power of physics theories is much higher. So the physical reality is part of transcendent reality, a part that can be described mathematically.

>> No.11537313

Philosophy is the discussion of how we interpret the world around us. Math and science can only tell us how the world works, in the strictest of terms. Philosophy is the approach we, as humans, take to understanding our place in this world, and how we should involve ourselves with it.

>> No.11537317

>>11537285
There’s no need to talk about points within a line. The only two points that matter are the endpoints, as in the real world, or the points of division and subtraction that are calculated on the line. Ultimately, geometry is the measurement of quantity in terms of length, area, and volume. Two circles are equal because the quantity of each radius is equal. Again, just because there’s no mention of numbers does not mean its non-quantitative. A quantity is simply that which is capable of being increased or diminished. You don’t always need numbers to show quantities. Were quantity not a core concept of geometry, there would be no geometry.

>> No.11537337

>>11537317
A line hasn't got any endpoints though. Explain how a line can be "increased or diminished"?

>> No.11537348

>>11537337
A line represents the distance between 2 points in space. Change the location of either point and you can change the quantity or direction of the line

>> No.11537486

>>11537348
https://www.khanacademy.org/math/basic-geo/basic-geo-lines/lines-rays/a/lines-line-segments-and-rays-review

>> No.11537539

>>11537167

Most things can be reduced to Mathematical representation but that has no bearing on Mathematics' Ontological relevance.

>> No.11537545

>>11537167
This is an ontological claim and a philosophical position. If reality is math, then some kind of platonism must be true

>> No.11537547

>>11537167
Philosophy is like a rough draft that mathematics can come back and rigorously fill in later.

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11537676

>>11537348
>A line represents the distance between 2 points
>change the quantity of the line

>> No.11537838

>>11537311
*snap*

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>>11537838
Tell me where I'm wrong

>> No.11538319

This is called the Primacy of Mathematics and it's fucking wrong.

>> No.11538365

The funny thing is your post is literally engaging in philosophy OP