/lit/ - Literature

San Franciscan here to confirm that this place is nothing but bus-riding techies and people who devote every waking moment to complaining about the bus-riding techies. The city is a shithole and I'm glad my return won't be for long

>>11527663
>>11527677
it's the Jews' work

Long time DC resident. Article confirmed for accuracy.

>>11527677
>>11527698
didn't know it had gotten so bad everywhere. recently went to new orleans, and even it is turning into a milquetoast them park for 'adulting'

maybe somewhere in south america will be left standing

>>11527725
I'm finding happiness in Washington, near the Puget Sound. 70% of people here are either Marxists or heroin addicts but it doesn't really matter when the nature is go gorgeous and abundant. I spend most of my time in the woods.

On the one hand I sympathize with the author. There is something special if somewhat intangible and impossible to define about a city's "culture," its spirit and authenticity, and it's a shame to see it transformed into bourgeois banality. That being said, its the author's attitude that is the cause of this change. The fetishization of "diversity" for its own sake, the (((Bohemian))) art student funded by their upper-crust, champagne socialist parents moving into safe but affordable neighborhoods, the condescending manner in which these people think they can sample a culture or neighborhood like it's a buffet at Golden Corral. It's all nonsense and if the author can't see how this idyllic vision of New York is necessarily impermanent then they're an idiot.

>>11527735
i hear the environmentalist people up there are unironically into guenon—is this true?

Many neighborhoods in Chicago
The further north you go, the more gentrified it gets, I'm afraid

>>11527759
Not sure if you mean the intellectual or a monkey, but I can't tell you much about either, or their popularity around here. Most of the environmentalists I know around here are aspie-adjacent STEMmers and are actually pretty neat to talk with

>>11527771
Here here, if only the entire city could see such beautiful, vibrant communities as these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbKp8OV6F64

>>11527742
>>11527782
i dont think the author is saying that these places being white is the issue, it's a much deeper sickness. american youth culture of a certain class has been wholesale gutted

>>11527782
Just dont live there lmao

>>11527663
You have to carve out those /lit/ places for yourself. In all the great literary periods of mankind, literary societies were formed by a small minority, sometimes without money, other times with one or two rich patrons capable of providing the appropriate premises, amidst a sea of banality even in contemporaneous artistic circles. One great but unpolished young writer attracts another, and as more congregate to discuss and improve their works it's only natural that they end up making a routine out of meeting at a few familiar locations, which usually become revered long after their success.

>>11527807
so, /lit/ basically?

Been through San Fran, DC and NYC currently. San Fran took the biggest heat, becoming litterally a tech metropolis where everyone thinks they are saving the world by coding, while surrounded by homeless. Living in DC was like living in some business TV show. Everyone was trying to network, everyone wanted to go to expensive tapas bars to flaunt their earned wealth, not my scene, but at least they were the ones achieving their wealth. NYC is still the GOAT, and every neighborhood has their own dramatic flair. What the author is talking about must be the Village, especially East Village. Crime rates there have dropped dramatically while artistic communities still believe they are living on the fringe of society. Artsy people are everywhere but surrounded more and more by their parents wealth, the same thing is happening in brooklyn as well, although there you will likely get shot if you bring your money out in the wrong place. Midtown has always been for the richest, as has Kips Bay and everywhere around 63rd. Upper Manhattan, Queens and the Bronx still have what the author is looking for, hell Chintown does too. The author just needs to move, or if she really wants some close to home anti-gentrification, go to white Plains, I'm sure they'll love it there.

>>11527830
when was the last time you were in williamsburg m8? it's a big fucking apple store foodtruck. manhattan is beyond destroyed

>we now live in an America where we no longer have any ability to control the systems we live under.
>now
>no longer

>>11527800
I wasn't criticizing the piece on the basis that it was anti-white, maybe you replied to the wrong person?

>>11527830
>tfw born and raised in the east village and still live here
>have seen the transformation
>hate my neighborhood now
feels bad man

>>11527859
HAHAHAHAHA
I despise statements like this, so historically illiterate, yet rhetorically valuable as a means of indicating some paradigmatic change to which people should be outraged or indignant.

I understand that gentrification hurts poor people economically but I really wish they'd stop the "muh unique culture being ruined by outsiders" thing when you know exactly what they'd say if certain other groups used that kind of argument.

It's even worse when hip artsy whites complain about boring normie whites moving in and ruining all the "ethnic charm" as if they weren't part of the first wave of gentrifiers.

>>11527663
Liberals were fine with decimating Catholic neighborhoods and flooding our inner cities with violent, low IQ mystery meat. Can't remember the WASPs complaining when Philadelphia was ethnically cleansed of micks and Ities, can't remember the kikes getting bent out of shape when federally funded negro crack dens were established in poletown.

Yeah, gentrification is repulsive; I feel sick whenever I see bright neon colors and restaurants with puns in their name. But so far it's the only solution liberals will tolerate to the destruction that desegregation and globalization have wrought. Don't like it? Want to see some more "flavor" on your morning coffee run? Maybe you shouldn't have ruined every neighborhood and school district your prissy little faggot hands could touch.

In post-MLK american cities, it's either favelas or Starbucks. Thank the Democratic party if you don't like it

>>11527663
yeah im not going to read that, can someone just like based or snap me real quick and ill go to bed thanks

>>11527951
preach

>actually living in the city

https://samzdat.com/2017/05/22/man-as-a-rationalist-animal/

Relevant to this thread topic.

>>11527663
>trumps fault democrats fucked washington on decade long building plans that were finished and completed before he was elected

These people are retarded.

>>11528038
who reads this? how did you literally find this? do you just subscribe to blogs that review random shit in long form?

>>11528035
Better than depressing suburbia

>>11528088
Found it through /lit/, my friend.

>>11528178
at least we have eachother, am i right?

>>11528035
This. Cityfags get btfo by countryfags daily

It seems to me that the horrors of gentrification are being laid at the feet of the wrong people. The people who complain about the loss of culture are the same ones who move to these areas. Clearly there is demand for it. They would frequent its stores, support its art, engage in its festivals, etc. So where's the supply going?
I think we're all in agreement that it's a case of people being priced out in ways they weren't before. But you can't blame that on population growth. There's always been population growth, often far more explosive than what's going on now. The difference is that this time no one's allowed to build enough housing to keep up with it. No one can open a small business for the price they once did.
Zoning, building restrictions, and rent controls all have the same focus: metastasizing the present state of life, but in locking down one generation's lifestyle, nothing is left for the next. And the only people who inherit what exists are those wealthy enough to navigate or ignore the maze.
California, Illinois and New York complain that the culture is disappearing without paying attention to the migration patterns of the people who create it. The culture isn't just vanishing into the void. It's going where the people are going, places like Texas and Florida.
You want to live in a multicultural city filled with poor people and cheap living arrangements? Go there.

>tfw Texan

They'll never bring us down--the state, I mean. The cities have a little of what he describes, but not nearly as bad, and they can't take the countryside from us.

>>11528295
I've only lived in Dallas, but my experience has been that it's only been getting more interesting. I've heard that Austin and Houston are similar, though. And of course, rural is rural forever.

>>11528272
>No one can open a small business for the price they once did.
The interesting thing about that was the boarded-up storefronts left behind by businesses priced out by rent increases, where landlords made the deliberate decision to leave a space empty rather than rent it for anything lower than their perceived market value.

>>11528305
Part of that is property taxes. If no renter can pay enough to make up for them, you're better off with no one.

>>11528305
i know the city is infamously communist, but i believe downtown bologna is stocked to the gills with small businesses because of govt intervention

>implying le multicultural huddled masses aren’t already the greatest bore that ever was

>>11528295
Wtf are you talking about you hick retard. Assuming you're a gringo, you are in the process of being ethnically cleansed and will be a minority in four short years--step one of gentrification of course being to dump third world garbage in white living spaces until they are completely overwhelmed. When you flee to the suburbs or exurban ring #4, institutions will start to fail, schools will turn into gang factories, and crime will inflate. Then begins the rereconquista by Walgreens, asians, and cupcake shop owners

>>11528304
Dallas is kind of a unique case because for the longest time its most defining cultural feature was its LACK of culture. Dallas was all about shopping malls and nice restaurants and nice homes, it was boring as hell. So it getting more interesting culture places is actually an improvement.

Austin has been invaded by horrible fucking hipsters, though. The design of the city also prevents it from really expanding the way it should, so it's crowded and the traffic is awful. I like Austin but I hate all the transplants.

>>11528338
>most defining cultural feature was its LACK of culture
Welcome to Toronto, a city that has managed to dupe the world into thinking that it is world-class.

>>11528357
I assure you, the only people who think Toronto is a world-class city are Canadians

>>11528357
toronto is infamous in the states for being the most boring spot in north america

>>11527742
Exactly this, minus the anti-semitism

I'm with Moldbug in having an almost fanatical hatred of street crime, so I'm happy that you can now walk safely around much of New York at night - even at the cost of the obnoxious bourgeois bohemians.

I think the reason you get this particularly annoying brand of gentrification in Anglosphere cities is that, aside from these renewed urban patches, most of these cities are still crime-ridden and decaying. If cities were universally well-policed then you wouldn't get such an absurd concentration of wealth in a tiny area that pushes out the cool and interesting stuff. For example crime is just not a thing in Tokyo, and because every neighborhood is livable there is no intense concentration of urban development anywhere - with the effect of Tokyo staying very cool.

And thats why these cancerous people are spreading their disease to texas, georgia, virginia etc ruining what makes these states unique. Stay the fuck away. I'm a new yorker and hate that shit. You made your bed now lie in it.

>>11528419
Tokyo has interesting districts, but the vast majority of it is not cool.

>>11527663
>Urban centers
>/lit/

You ought to read some of John C Calhoun's works, urbanization is a cancer

>>11527663
>Boston, which used to be a city of a thousand nooks and crannies, back-alley restaurants and shops, dive bars and ice cream parlors hidden under its elevated, is now one long, monotonous wall of modern skyscraper
This hits pretty hard. The city has become so sanitized. It's hard to find a single "Bostonian" peculiarity here. Even the Boston accent is dying a slow death.

>>11528430
>Boston accent is dying a slow death
It's 2018 and your racism is appreciated buddy, we are all one human race. The Boston accent doesn't matter anymore than the Jamaican or Japanese accents , they come and go.

Deal with it you virgin lol just get laid

>>11527742
This, but at least triple the antisemitism

>>11528429
>these heavily inbred autistic mice forced to live in their own filth are just like us
You ought to stop reading MPC and get a job

>>11528430
Fuck Boston. The Boston of Emerson, Channing, James bros, etc is already long dead, killed by commercial interests

As>>11527951 said, future is starbucks or shitstain favela.

>>11527830
You clearly know nothing about New York, made glaringly obvious by your use of "NYC" like some tourist

>What the author is talking about must be the Village, especially East Village
It's all of downtown. The village is entirely NYU students, and they all have their own two-bedrooms in the East Village or LES. But it's also west village,chelsea, tribeca, hells kitchen, all of it

>Artsy people are everywhere but surrounded more and more by their parents wealth
Almost all artsy people have family money. How else would they be able to so freely pursue their passions? Ask any artist in an urban setting what their father does and you'll learn this pretty quickly

>the same thing is happening in brooklyn as well, although there you will likely get shot if you bring your money out in the wrong place
Lol, 99% of Brooklyn is just as bad as Manhattan, sometimes even more expensive (brooklyn heights, dumbo, etc). Just shift the demographic age-range up 5-10 years. The village is all kids 18-25 mostly in school, williamsburg is those same kids a few years into a more steady job in marketing and/or consulting (25-35)

>Midtown has always been for the richest, as has Kips Bay and everywhere around 63rd
Absolutely false. No one with real money lives in midtown you fucking moron. They live in nice pre-war 6s all the way uptown or in brand new apartments in Tribeca. Midtown is where people go to work, not sleep

>Upper Manhattan, Queens and the Bronx still have what the author is looking for, hell Chintown does too
Again, uptown is the oldest of old money. That's where you see people with huge amounts of unobtainable wealth living right on the park. Think $35,000,000 apartments. It's always been stuffy and boring, never what the author is searching for (unless you're talking Harlem and up). Queens is quickly becoming the next Brooklyn, just look at Astoria. And the Bronx is still a war zone, which is humorous because I guarantee the author wouldn't be caught dead up there, yet it still fits her idyllic savage-chic image of new york perfectly. Don't even start on China Town, if you're not Chinese you can't get property there,hence the name

>go to white Plains
Are you retarded?

>>11528464
>He had to take a few minutes to Google who he was and has no idea what the experiment was focusing on
Lmao, you should stop "reading" and get a job

>>11528469
>oldest of old money
do americans really do this? think that the descendants of robber barons 130 years ago are 'old money' and talk about them in respectful whispers? embarassing

unironically an nyu student studying english lit. i harbor a lot of self-hatred for it because i agree entirely with the op, but i also like literature and living in the city since i grew up in a suburban wasteland. is there any way for me to live morally, or should i just off myself before the next semester?

>>11528492
transfer to a nescac and walk on the football or lacrosse team

>>11528492
>unironically an nyu student studying english lit
unironically shut the fuck up and never say those words again

>>11528491
It's all relative my dude. The oldest of old money in New York is usually from early 20th century.Obviously doesn't really compare to Europe.You're mistake was assuming 'old money' is a compliment in the first place

>>11528491
It’s a new york thing, but it’s not much worse than your constant sputtering about what americans do and don’t do

>>11528469
Ditto 'San Fran'
larping

>>11528505
Nice callout of insecure UK & neighbors

>>11528474
unlike you and your fellow alt-right virgins, I've actually read the "experiment," which is really like a pseudoscientific attempt at a prose poem, and has no basis in reality. "Death Squared" I mean come the fuck on.

>>11528527
>Everyone who disagrees with me is *insert boogeyman*: the child's guide to political discussion
Yes because handwaiving it off as pseudoscience is actually an accurate rebuttal and in is no way influenced by biases on your side.

The study itself has been surpassed numerous times already but it's still an important milestone you ideologue moron lol.

>>11528366
Toronto has the CN tower and acts as a cheap stand in for more popular and famous American cities in film. That's its two noteworthy features.

>>11528527
>I've read *the* experiment
Another thing, it wasn't just one experiment.

i think the point is today the rate at which a city goes from a vibrant poor city to one completely dominated by high nrents as people rush to jump on the wagon is much quicker.
look at berlin in 5 years it will be devoid of anything interesting. its happening to lots of cities across europe

>>11528469
>You clearly know nothing about New York, made glaringly obvious by your use of "NYC" like some tourist
Literally born in Brooklyn and been out here my whole life. If you have never heard someone write out 'NYC' I can't imagine where you've lived. I left Brooklyn because even though it has the gentrification the author is so concerned over the crime rate is still awful, and I have been mugged too many times to stay there. The creeps come out at night, just because things look nice during the day doesn't mean they are.
>No one with real money lives in midtown you fucking moron.
That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard, maybe not old money out there, but the apts there go for thousands a moth, many people do live there and they are very wealthy
>Queens is quickly becoming the next Brooklyn, just look at Astoria
Most of it is stil shit though
>Bronx is a warzone
This, and the white plains statment were targeted at what I believe we agree on, the author longs for pre-gentrification days when it is clear that they would never want to go to a neighborhood that doens't have their own safety net.

>>11527742
This but in manifesto to destroy global Jewish cities and make Forrest of impaled minorities as permenant reminder.

>>11528491
>bong admits to talking about the rich in hushed tones
Lmao

>>11528543
>>11528548
>"nice try at calling me a virgin, but actually you committed the faggius maximus logical fallacy, which proves I am definitely not a faggy virgin"
>"oh and by the way? you made a grammatical error too. Meaning I'm awarded +40 logic points"
>"heh. maybe next time you'll think twice before battling wits with me, a highly logical non-virgin."

>>11528272
Also, with the internet, NO ONE PAYS FOR ART! Books, music, movies--diminishing. An artist can't make a living, sor they have to wagecuck and consequently aren't as activ3 in the art community.

>>11528706
I wonder about that. Do you think more or fewer artists are supported by Patreon and its like than managed to make a living writing pamphlets back in the day?

>>11528706
>>11528711
art is done. who cares if current 'artists' get paid? just download an old, better book, or an old, better movie

>>11528706
>>11528711

Art in the United States is just an elaborate social climbing mechanism

>>11527663
Muh New York muh New York. The world would be a better place without this Sesame Street shithole and its obnoxious self-promotion. I thought Melbourne was big headed - but at least Melbourne is actually a nice place to exist in. Bla bla the Drumpf crowd. What the hell do rural and suburban retards have to do with New York’s antiquated and artificial life support finally failing? The city was always doomed.

>>11528711
My cousin is 22 and a Manga fanatic; he has two jobs and does pretty well for himself, so he is basically at the higher end of the Manga target audience, and he reads every new chapter every week for free: he doesn't pay the subscription. We looked up how much these writers and artists make and on average it's a meager 10k/year.
People always say to do art for the love, but if there is increasingly little chance of making an actual living and supporting a family from the profession then people aren't going to be able to do it. To address your question directly, I have no idea, but these people aren't living solely on patroon income, it is a supplement at best.

>>11528757
>>11528706
And sorry for the typos, but I'm at work rn and can't edit as thoroughly as needed.

>>11528717
Cynic the post

my dream is to move to Uruguay and live in a village and start a family.

The weak must fear the strong.

But seriously, tough fucking cookies desu. The idea of the government picking winners by giving some poor people free or rent controlled housing but not others enrages me.

Why don't you just make enough money to fully enjoy this new culture? Hudson Yards sounds cool desu. 51 Astor place houses IBM Watson workers, which is cool (I know IBM Watson is said to be not quite up to the hype but it could lead somewhere). What would you rather have? Shitty buildings filled with nothing?

The world has more competition than ever due to the rise of Chinese cities. It would be suicide for New York to not triple down on its strengths.

I am sick of seeing demands to subsidise poor people in big cities. It is taxing the middle class to pay for the slaves of the elite.

Who could be scared at the concentration of high achieving, interesting, attractive, educated, go-getting people? Unintelligent layabouts?

>In my part of the forest, thank goodness, the process is (a little) more civilized, a sort of soft, running eviction. The large rental company that now owns every building on my side of the block (and much of the next block as well) brought in crews of what obviously seemed to be undocumented workers to repoint the brickwork, and thus drive up the rent for all of us by a couple of hundred dollars each month. Working out on precarious scaffolding in winter weather, these men were forbidden to talk to us, even when we tried to offer them water.

>>11528778
hope this is bait, or youre a fucking retard m8

>>11528544
Vancouver is the same. At least it's surrounded by natural beauty and has pretty good beaches. It's still a sanitized, cultureless city like all Canadian cities.

>>11527663
the cycle of cities, of gentrification. we're going to see something like a new Romantic era, where creativity, art, and innovation move away from the cities and find a new genesis in the countryside. the city, the great cultural and liberal center of any nation, now reduced to a superficial consumptive experience. a creative renaissance will flourish in the country, then die in a few decades, and then we'll eventually see a move back to cities, the cycle continues.

>>11528757
They in all likelihood are talentless to the point where they would've made nothing before

>>11528711
>>11528706
An artist can make a living easier than they ever could. People can now monetize their life in ways we haven't seen in the past, and that's only increasing.

While your cousin may not be a patron on patreon yet, if he's consuming content from people with patreons, then he's only getting closer. As someone who doesn't pay for anything online, I know I am. Whoever isn't, isn't consuming in the first place

Not everyone is going to be a success but it's a known meme that 'overnight successes' are years in the making

mentioning trump for no reason? check.

>>11528829
agreed

>>11528855
obsessed

>>11527663
a place in Nevada, but I'm not going to tell you which.
>and no it's not fucking Las Vegas

>>11527698
DC is a shithole, I feel like all the people who call it "the most beautiful city in the world" havent been anywhere outside of downtown DC
t. DMV resident

>>11528871
the suburbs there are good for raising a family.
also, Frederick is cash. but i guess thats not really DC (although some people commute to DC from there, which i think is insane desu)

>>11527663
Instead of mourning the passing of 'local color' and 'authenticity', we should embrace the sheer artificiality of the city. read the situationist international's notoriously megalomaniac writings on urbanism or 60s multimedia artists on the transformative potential of built environments.


>We are bored in the city, there is no longer any Temple of the Sun. Between the legs of the women walking by, the dadaists imagined a monkey wrench and the surrealists a crystal cup. That’s lost. We know how to read every promise in faces — the latest stage of morphology. The poetry of the billboards lasted twenty years.

>And you, forgotten, your memories ravaged by all the consternations of two hemispheres, stranded in the Red Cellars of Pali-Kao, without music and without geography, no longer setting out for the hacienda where the roots think of the child and where the wine is finished off with fables from an old almanac. That’s all over. You’ll never see the hacienda. It doesn’t exist.

>The hacienda must be built.


http://www.bopsecrets.org/SI/Chtcheglov.htm

>>11527742
>That being said, its the author's attitude that is the cause of this change.

I'm glad someone else noticed. The author is essentially complaining that there are now too many people just like him who move into areas and suck them dry of cultural capital. It's like going to Disneyland and getting angry at how crowded it is without realizing that *you* are part of that crowd. The author is just pissed that now there are more upper middle class whitecollar shitheads like him who want to travel from place to place like a swarm of locusts rather than just staying put and contributing to "local culture" like good little working class termites.

>>11527663
>swarm in and out of the metropolis in specially chartered buses to work in Silicon Valley, using the city itself as a gigantic bed-and-breakfast
>Boston, which used to be a city of a thousand nooks and crannies, back-alley restaurants and shops, dive bars and ice cream parlors

The lack of introspection is amazing.

>>11528272
>The people who complain about the loss of culture are the same ones who move to these areas.

The issue is that there are too many gentrifiers. With these people, it's like building a beach house out on a beautiful stretch of seafront. You just want it to be you and maybe one or two of your friends. The "locals" are merely there for decoration and to provide you with sundries when solitude becomes too much.

Add in a couple dozen more gentrifiers, and that seafront bloats up with condos and two dozen other beach houses. Grrr, how dare they encroach on your personal kingdom!? Proof in the pudding: the author isn't even a New York local yet acts fiercely territorial regardless.

It's like that old joke:
>A hipster walks into a bar and says "Man, look at all these hipsters."

>>11528936
it doesnt really matter whether the author is part of the problem or not, his points still stand. also, i think people in this thread are focusing a bit too much on the number of people, or the increased wealth as if this is just a demographic issue. qualitatively, american youth culture has changed dramatically, and that is reflected now in cities like new york. the kids are lamer. period. not because of some demographic shift, but a cultural one. people have always been transplants to these places, and were socialized into a sort of urban tradition. this has been co-opted, destroyed and replaced with soul cycle instructors.

>>11528993
Gen x boomer detected

>>11528993
>the kids are lamer
It is true that kids are more docile these days, but then again they're probably more drugged up with antidepressants and whatnot, addicted to their phones, controlled in schools, and there's huge pressure on them to stay on the straight-and-narrow because of just how competitive the job market is.

>>11527663
>is, well, boring.

>>11529002
yeah, im not saying there arent reason for it, or that it's necessarily their fault, it just is the case.
>>11528998
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9a5tZSKDOU

>gentrification
Consider the cause of this. White hipsters move into brown neighborhoods. Rents go up because landlords are speculating on the future value of the land, as with white hipsters comes crime reduction, Starbucks, Whole Foods, etc. Tax land value and watch the rents go down.

Also, Progressive policies are practically designed for this to happen through zoning and environmental regulations.The whole thing is a charade to price out brown people while also granting the opportunity to virtue signal about how mean it is to the poor brown people. Of course the real goal is simple: Make land values go up. As rich people move to get away from diversity, land in these enclaves has a high expected value.

>>11528993
and what's the deal with this "dabbing" the kids are into? I can't walk down my formerly cool and authentic street without a mixed race teen "dabbing" on me. It's like, don't go there, kid.

I've lived in both and I'll choose a boring, safe neighborhood over an """"exciting"""" """"vibrant"""" neighborhood 10 times out of 10
http://takimag.com/article/the_left_has_made_racism_the_practical_choice_david_cole#axzz5MVMEXjNO
Ignoring the dumb title, I agree with most of this article.

>>11527663
It's cultural terraforming.

The platonic bugman isn't simply a fully assimilated workerdrone for globohomocorp... He is a man who never had the need to change in order to assimilate to globohomocorp.

C-sectioned into a sterile environment by credentialised alien medical personnel and raised by strivers who had incubated what they intended to be a narcissistic clone of themselves. Rather than the mirror of self affirmation his parents intended to create, they inadvertently brought something far worse into this world. Something... Empty. Something with the smallest possible soul, which occupies the smallest possible corner of the cavernous soul-space inherent to a man with his inherited high IQ that was intended to be tempered by an ethnocultural heritage of altruistic romanticism.

His caretakers' empty loveless platitudes, persistent physical and emotional absences, and fanatical striver dedication to relentless "inclusiveness" and "efficiency" resulted in the utter starvation of the child's solitary soul fragment.

An unclaimed heritage makes its presence felt through a haunting melancholy that propels a fully-souled individual to seek it out, at any price. A weaker-souled individual still feels the call, but weakly... It is easy to drown out with drugs, drink, and other forms of desensitization.

The platonic bugman hears none of this. His soul has been shrunken to a tiny characterless bead that serves only as a mechanically animating force- and nothing more.

The fullest soul sings like wind through the veins of heroes. But the bugman's blood is naught but iron, plasma, and carbon dioxide. Simple elements. Physical blood pumped rhythmically through tissue that is warm, yet remains lifeless.

Completely bereft of emotional, sociocultural and memetic antibodies, his body and mind are fully colonized by the roaming metabacterial influences of the managerialist mileu. There is an Amazon Alexa in his soul cavern.

Inverted panopticon: A ring of corpogovernmentally programmed thought police surrounding a lone man in a cell. But there is no cell, because the man is incapable of considering any alternative.
He is tweeting, and nomming on organic granola.
He am become globohomo, monocultural fagger of worlds.

>>11528227
Have fun having Walmart as the only store for miles around
t. Lived in rural wisconsin

>>11529085
This. It's why I've chosen to be an unsuccessful NEET who lives with his mom

>>11529085
just like the gypsy woman said!

>>11529085
Schizophrenia comes at you fast

>>11527771
you’ve never been to uptown or devon have you

>>11529122
I meant more like Wilmette and Winnetka, but on second thought those are suburbs, so they've pretty much always been gentrified

>>11529085
These are the posts that keep me here

>>11527810
I wish this were the case; I worry at the destructive cynicism that persists here. As well, this aspect of self-betterment is the one thing missing from 4chan, I think in large part because the anonymous culture shows not promote the cultivation of a developed or developing identity

>>11529032
t. faggot teen

>>11529007
>white trash going around giving each other AIDS is cool

>>11529201
*nae naes on you*

>>11529085
Uh, Truman, wanna have some Penn Pavel's Beer? You shouldn't think about these things.

>>11528564
>If you have never heard someone write out 'NYC' I can't imagine where you've lived
I've never heard a native new yorker refer to New York as "NYC" -- it's a tourist slogan designed to fit neatly on t-shirts. Come on man

>the crime rate is still awful, and I have been mugged too many times to stay there. The creeps come out at night, just because things look nice during the day doesn't mean they are.
Again, this is only in certain parts of Brooklyn. More than half of Brooklyn has very low crime rates and is virtually the same as wealthy parts of manhattan (e.g. brooklyn heights, dumbo, williamsburg, gowanus, etc.). At the end of the day, the city is a city. You can get mugged just as easily in manhattan if you take the wrong subway line a little too late at night. Besides, I thought the crime added to the excitement that the author seems to long for?

>That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard, maybe not old money out there, but the apts there go for thousands a moth, many people do live there and they are very wealthy
All apartments in manhattan go for thousands a month. Good luck finding a studio anywhere on the island for 1500 or less -- nice areas are always 1800+ EASY, usually well over 2000. Murray Hill, Hudson Yards,K Kips Bay have some of the cheapest apartments in all of manhattan. Again, it seems expensive, but compared to Tribeca, West Village, SoHo, Meatpacking, Upper East/West, most of it is cheap

>Most of it is still shit though
Wrong -- Astoria, Bayside, Long Island City, Jamaica -- all places for young professionals to live with their yuppy kind. Just like Brooklyn. Sure, there are still some rough spots but that's true of all cities

>the author longs for pre-gentrification days when it is clear that they would never want to go to a neighborhood that doesn't have their own safety net
Exactly, it's all posturing. She could easily seek out the New York she claims to have lost, but guess what -- she won't. She'd rather cling to a fleeting sense of superiority as she inaccurately recalls the glory days of a New York that never was. Yes, some neighborhoods are completely different, but it's people like her that fought to make them that way. Now that they've succeeded they blame everyone but themselves. Fuck em

99% of this thread is full of people that have never lived in New York for more than a year

>>11529300
I bet they're tearing their hair out

>>11529300
So what bias is that producing? What are we missing, lucky one?

good thing chiraq is still a shithole

>>11527735
Washington state seems like a pretty legit place desu, thinking of moving there

>>11529309
>What are we missing, lucky one?
The knowledge to have an infromed opinion about the state of the city you fucking moron

>>11527742
Good post

>>11529332
Yankees, mets, dodger once upon a time, what else is there to know?

>>11529300
nice cope faggot

>>11529367
you'll never know what it feels like to live in the center of civilization you fucking nobody

>>11529085
excellent

>>11529373
i lived in new york from 14-20. youre pathetic

>>11529395
where in New York big boy?

>>11529085
Posts like this remind me why I love /lit/. Stay based, fellow autists

>>11527698
>>11528871
I hate DC so much. It's way too expensive here and the culture values careerism and politics (of the most banal degree) over everything. I don't care that you went to Georgetown! I don't care about your job on the hill! I don't want to go to brunch! I don't want to pay $16 for some shitty cocktail!

>>11528921
Frederick is ok but most of the DC suburbs are filled with MS-13, wealthy jews, and the most boring upper middle class white people in the country.

>>11528357
Nobody thinks that.

I lived on 188th street for four years and hated every second of it
diverse neighborhoods are not fun for white people

>>11528430
Accents everywhere are dying at an alarming rate.

>>11529515
Only white ones, actually ;)

>>11527875
This. They're such purposeless, pseudointellectual comments.

>>11527663

Oh, put a sock in it, you tedious bore. It's funny how all of this bleating about the cultural impact of gentrification always comes from people who are well-off and academically linked themselves. It's just like the sophisitcates who whinged about how "characterful" and "charming" the rancid congested cholera-ridden slums of Paris were when that city was being redeveloped in the 1860s.

Cities change, and your inability to cope with that is a sign of your stupidity.

>>11528665
Underrated. This is why I love this board.

>>11527951
This happens when liberals move to the country too. They move to my hometown because they want to get away from the hustle and bustle of the city but then they complained there was no Starbucks, not enough restaurants, nothing to do. (Nature isn't good enough, apparently.) Now there's stupid ugly houses and stupid ugly stores everywhere and there's more traffic than the roads are equipped to handle. And with the construction and with the rich assholes moving here needing their nannies and landscapers, there's plenty of undocumented labor setting up shop too. Great!

>>11529553
>>>11529553
>Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming are now just places waiting to be turned into playgrounds where the Davos class LARPs as cowboys
fucking nowhere is safe, man. People always forget that California used to be that way too before all the New Y*rkers moved here

>>11529196
Ahem

>>11528777
Why Uruguay? I've never been but my father is from there. He's never really expressed any interest in going back even to visit, though his sisters are in an out of there regularly.

>>11529085
based

new york i love you but you're bringing me down

>>11527810
Chan boards are literally the lost generation/beats of the 21st century

>>11528936
>>11527742

Contributing culture and critique without living and creating earnestly?

On the weekend I've taken up work at a local bar. The money is bad, but the beer is good and I've time to read. When things slow down, I play five finger fillet. I tell people things they shouldn't believe. I flirt. I get my hands dirty.

Perhaps that's generative fiscally, but developmentally I am stagnant. Comfort and company kept by the middle brow, but that's alright. They're no worse than I, usually. I tell myself that I've no illusions, delusions, that I'll find inspiration here, or salvation, or myself.

So why does it feel like I'm fishing? Waiting for Percevel to come, that I may impart an inheritance and in the giving define myself.

>>11529085
People will call you a memester queer but I liked the post and it's written well

>>11527663
haha fuck drumptf am I right? seriously tho new york has been shit since they started letting jews in

>ANd this is why we need to import more niggers from Africa into all of our beautiful cities.

>>11529553
Where you at senpai? Lexington VA is kinda like this

>>11527951
It's not just social liberalism, it's social liberalism infused with globalist all-hands-on-deck capitalism. For whatever reason, flooding major cities with "quirky" restaurant franchises and overpriced bars with exposed brick walls appeals to something fundamental in the average, faceless consumer.

>>11528492
Avoid the "literature lifestyle" as much as possible IMO, and instead focus on pursuing your own interests, which may or may not overlap with some aspects of literature.

>>11528822
Sydney reporting in. This place is becoming Generic Globalist City #76 real fast too.

>>11527663

What about Chicago?

>>11529085
>be me
>be on 4ch since 06
>never been on this board
>might as well give it a try
>"muh platonic bugmen"

holy shit you guys never said this was a containment board

>>11529085

Masterpiece

>>11530384
Preach, neighbour. I don't know what detachment from reality is required to consistently rate Sydney as one of the most liveable cities. It's a city for rich Anglo businessmen, their art hoe daughters, and refugee welfare recipients.

>>11530468
>>11530384
Which cities are good in Cuntland? How's Perth?

What's the solution? It's just capitalism. The author is just complaining that more efficient and profitable buildings are used now. Not only that it seems like this is the end result of places lke that. One culture always ends up winning.

>>11527663

I take pleasure in the decadence of these places. I was travelling through the US last year, and the big cities looked to me like gigantic deserts, swarming with people with nothing to do except buying food, clothes or similar things. You can walk for miles in New York and you'll never have the sensation of going anywhere. It's like a giant open-world videogame map, where they re-use the same NPCs, the same shops, reproduce the same dialogues and situations.

>>11530510
Efficiency and profitability are not good enough ends to justify the loss of culture

>>11529085

Hey at least bugmen eat our beefy boxes haha

t. I'm a girl don't be a creep

>Muh noble savages.

I agree with almost everything in this piece but can't help but cringe at the author's pining over the loss of his exotic neighbours. I understand where he's coming from but he has an overly romanticised view of the poor and ethnic. Most of his descriptions of his New York experience reads like a tropey description you would find in a piece of literature set in New York. He probably never even mixes with the poor and ethnic people he finds so endearing, he just wanted them there because they are apparently the only ones with culture. You can just tell he's one of those people that goes to an ethic eatery/shop and speaks in a patronizing way to the owner which he thinks is being respectful to their culture.


Reminds me of these satire pieces:

https://www.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/yuppie-mum-in-gentrifying-area-says-its-cool-to-still-see-a-few-heroin-addicts-around/

https://www.betootaadvocate.com/headlines/inner-city-yuppie-feeling-chuffed-at-how-well-conversation-went-with-local-blackfella2/

>>11530384
>becoming

>>11530402

I love how every roastie waitress in Chicago is miserable.

What OP and many of the comments going "muh globalist liberals rahhh" are missing is that the internet flattens are degrades local cultures. What it means to be regular liberal (liberal being cultural, not political here) millennial becomes incredibly homogenous, whether you're in Richmond Virginia or Helsinki Finland. It will come, if it hasn't already, to your local small town Paducah KY or Mount Dora FL. It's not even our faults now; we can easily consume and spread all culture because of the internet, and this makes everything global. And it's not just the political liberals. Bearded conservative millenials also open up microbreweries and listen to Alice in Chains on vinyl.

What we're going to be left with, and what's happening now, is that people will filter off into being a member of this homogenous, flattened culture or they will become misanthropic and xenophobic. Ultimately, and this is the really sinister part, because the flattened liberal culture is not actually violent or antagonistic, because they generally seem quite capable of creating new business development, for all their garish cultural sins... only a hateful caviler could get too upset over it. You essentially have to become a cunt like >>11529553.

Every time I get worked up over this, about how manufactured and homogenous it all seems, I realize it's hard to see what the actual alternative would be. Because every town will change, this is the nature of modernity. If the flattened liberal culture doesn't come in, what will be there? Hollowed out town centers with Zaxby's and Red Robin chains? Boarded up Main Streets? Opioid addiction? Cunts who get triggered by some poor mexican working on a build site? Drive around America, those two paths are usually (with only few lucky exceptions) what everything becomes.

At least with Paris the sheer amount of niggers and Muslim immigrants flooding the place has made it go back to virtual square one with thousands of struggling minorities and families balancing out the decadence of the bourgeois.

>>11530543
Zaxby's is great, reported your post

>>11530547
Paris is too... Paris to really die off culturally, there's just too much weight behind it to fall into the sea

>>11527663
decorah, IA

>>11530547
>At least with Paris the sheer amount of niggers and Muslim immigrants flooding the place has made it go back to virtual square one with thousands of struggling minorities and families balancing out the decadence of the bourgeois.
This isn't true at all. Have you even been to Paris? The actual city is not where the minorities live, they live in the hellscape suburbs to the north and south. Paris--the actual city--is a cleansed, bourgeois city. Walk around at 4AM and there are no minorities to scare you, but also hardly any decadent revellers spilling out of cafes either. It's simply a city of tourists and the upper middle class who tuck into bed by midnight.

>>11530551
it wasn't a negative statement on Zaxby's, but if I were to choose I like a Bojangles more.

>>11530559
Disagree but respect the opinion, at least you're not a fuckwit who said Canes or something

>>11530556
I was there only 6 months ago.

I absolutely loved Paris, and I even extended my stay there but the city is fucking full of them, even in the centre. It was dirty as fuck, too - especially the further out you go (I stayed in the 17th ar). There are less in the centre but there are still a lot there.

Even though Paris is a tourist city now it's still /lit/ as fuck.

>>11528829
I think you’re picturing a return to traditionalism, but in reality you’d end up with agrarianism becoming a meme train that liberals and upper-class whites hop on. No thanks, they’d invade and destroy the rural experience. For them, it would only be another trend for their consumerist minds to chase. I can just picture the Vice article touting the benefits of country living.

>>11527663
Only New York middle-brow hacks think New York was ever literary.

>>11530636
>It was dirty as fuck, too
This has always been Paris. It's a dirty city, especially in winter when the dirt-black snow is riddled with garbage and cigarette butts.

>There are less in the centre but there are still a lot there.
In the city center it's way less than in London/Brussels/Marseille/Barcelona/etc. But yeah if you were out in the 17a and explored the outskirts more, there are genuinely sketchy immigrant areas that way.

1970s new york is the most interesting thing

>>11529373
Hold on everyone, we got ourselves someone really important here!

where does globohomo even get used? is it from a book?

>>11529048
>author being a no fun police is scared of being called racist for being a no fun police
Worst place is that he extended this hyperbolic fantasy to be part of some anti-left narrative

>>11530800
It looks like a buddy cop movie

>>11529048
>http://takimag.com/article/the_left_has_made_racism_the_practical_choice_david_cole#axzz5MVMEXjNO
this is basically anti-/lit/. Anyone who has to mask their overhwleming fear and insecurities as if it is some orderly and noble strength has very little to offer the rest of humanity. A bullet to the nape and organs donated to the science is about what this gentleman deserves.

>>11529412
And there's the goalpost moving.

>>11527663
This shit is happening in every big western city and people like the author are the ones perpetuating it.

I grew up in a working class neighborhood I'm the west of Amsterdam , it used to have a lot of charm and people looked out for each other. Then the Moroccans and Turks came, they turned the place into a warzone and chased all the locals to other neighborhoods. After they were done driving the real estate prices into the ground in a timespan of 15 years the yuppies moved in. Now the cramped apartment where I grew up is on the market for almost half a million euro's.

>>11530551
I was a cook at Zaxby's for three months in college
Do not eat at Zaxby's

>>11530954
georgetown has a cafe called saxybs. i stood behind maria shriver there waiting to order once

>>11527951
>IDZ DUH DEMZ
Literally worse than everything you critique, ptg.

>>11530937

If you go to Brick Lane in London, which is the most hipster place BY FAR in the city, if you walk south down the street it literally transforms from a hipster dominated place to a Muslim dominated place. It starts at hipster dominated Shoreditch and ends up at completely middle Eastern Whitechapel.

>>11529085
Pretty close, but why 'platonic'?

>>11530993
i believe it’s meant to mean something like archetypal there

>>11530981
Brick Lane and Shoreditch are hipster BECAUSE they were immigrant areas though. All the Bengali signs on Brick Lane were basically just hipster lures.

This is how the hipster gentrification works. Working class white area becomes working class immigrant area with crime and integration area becomes slightly safer immigrant area becomes area where gays and artists go to live with immigrants because rents are cheaper becomes where middle class hipsters visit on weekends to feel diverse becomes place where middle class hipsters completely displace and gentrify. It's the same story over and over.

>>11530937
I work in Amsterdam and live like 1.5 hours away by train in part because of the ludicrous real estate in Amsterdam. Moreover, for whatever shite the moroccans have brought to the area, the evils of tourism have just destroyed the city. Drunk brits and wandering americans smoking joints basically make Amsterdam just as much of a no-go zone as if Mokros were openly warring along the canals.

>>11529553
why do fucking americans like starbucks so much? it's utter utter shite and no different to any other generic coffee shop chain.

>>11531057
its because there was no generic coffee chain before. The whole business model was "bring the eurostyle coffee house to america!!". All of America is basically chains, from chain store, to fast food chains to chain restaurants. Starbucks seems to hold this special ire from folks who want to it to symbolize the bland cosmopolitanism, but this is the same country where small towns Real Americans™ think the local Applebee's chain is a social gathering place on Friday's. It's a fucking degenerate corporate hellscape of a country.

>>11527663
Never posted my stuff here but figured I might as well since it is old and relevant to this theme. It is attempting to get to the depths of these seemingly empty yet lunatic spaces, the political and the historical elements behind it, through the image of a famous painting.
I'm sure it could use some edits, and looking back on it there is likely very little meaning if you don't get the painting. But that is just where I was at, thought it was necessary to the form, and do not want to go back to it now.
https://foolishnessforcommunism.blogspot.com/2014/12/current-stream.html
Any thoughts appreciated.

>>11530314
Is this slam poetry or what?

the author proudly (and with a rather patronising tone) extolls the virtues of "diversity" and multiculturalism (of which there are a few, granted) but fails to recognize that the current state of new york city is merely the result of decades of diversity fart sniffing. as if literally accommodating the entire fucking world will not lead to the blandest, most soulless averages imaginable

>>11531131
>as if literally accommodating the entire fucking world will not lead to the blandest, most soulless averages imaginable
this is the dumbest take in this entire thread. America is country where huge swathes are wastelands consumed with soulessness of opioid and fentanyl addiction and declining economic and cultural centers, and yet its NYC that's the bad part.... what a fucking idiotic perspective

>>11528295
I've lived in Austin for the past 6 years and it's just been getting worse and worse. There are so many homeless people down town and they're getting so aggressive with their begging. It's way worse than anything I've seen in new york. Rent is getting high but (for now) it's still mostly manageable but people are mostly moving further and further from the city itself to live in the metro area. I guess the local culture is still more or less in tact because everyone here is still a fucking loser doing nothing with their lives. Also there are still many good local businesses. A lot of them are absolute hipster bullshit and tourist traps but there is still a lot good shit to be found. Over all the city is not big enough for its recent population boom, especially the down town area. Traffic is terrible and everything is always crowded.

>>11529085
cringe

>>11531186
cringe

>>11531183
>I guess the local culture is still more or less in tact because everyone here is still a fucking loser doing nothing with their lives
Can’t kill a culture if it is already shit huh?

>>11530800
>mhmm
>looooooord
>uh un

>muh nostalgia

god i hate these boomers.

the internet is interesting
the real world is boring.

learn to tune in man.

>ctrl + f
>"9/11"
>no results
that must be a record

>>11530920
Well yes, if someone grew up in Rochester and visited New York a few times a year as a teenager, that doesn't count as living in the city. There's a reason he never answered my question

>>11530811
Don't worry sweatie, I'm sure there are plenty of reasons to visit the midwest

all the /lit/ places are now in the third world
go to a fucked up place to write.
Do you think the greeks and romans wrote in "comfy" places?
Life back then was fucked up

>>11531183
austinfag here as well, but im a transplant doing phd at UT. i personally love it, i can live the literary lifestyle by forming reading circles with fellow grad students. the literary lifestyle is what you make of it, and it can happen anywhere, not just NYC.
it always makes me laugh when the locals complain about transplants driving rents up bc it shows how much of a backwater shithole the city used to be before to be able to subsist at such a low price level.

the homeless problem is solely bc the city decided to build that shelter right on 7th. they should have built it in the outskirts. although, i agree, the city is ruled by lefty scum and they allow the homeless to panhandle everywhere. we're experiencing the same fate as San Francisco.

true, the city was not equipped to withstand so many people. driving on mopac is a nightmare.

>>11532032
do you think athens and rome were fucked up places? are you retarded?

>>11532032
this is a retarded opinion. if by /lit/ you mean wasting away at an opium den like british writers in the 19th century, then that applies everywhere. drugs are like candy nowadays.

if by that you mean having "lived life", i guess its easier to gain inspiration from 3rd world shitholes, since the 1st world is so sanitized and you're taken care of from cradle to the grave. truly sad, safe existence. thats why you have so many middlebrow yuppies going to india or SEA to "find themselves". they wont.

>>11529085
fancy words, but where's the detailings, the argument?

>>11528929
>He and his friend Henry de Béarn planned to blow up the Eiffel Tower with some dynamite they had stolen from a nearby building site, because "its reflected light shone into their shared attic room and kept them awake at night."[2] He was arrested at Les Cinq Billards on Rue Mouffetard[3] in Paris and committed to a mental hospital by his wife, where he was subdued with insulin and shock therapy, and remained for 5 years. He died in 1998.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-DJ-W8IrHk


>With New Babylon Nieuwenhuys envisioned a "world wide city for the future" where land is owned collectively, work is fully automated and the need to work replaced with a nomadic life of creative play. New Babylon is inhabited by homo ludens, who, freed from labor, will not have to make art, for he can be creative in the daily practice of his life

>The project of New Babylon only intends to give the minimum conditions for a behaviour that must remain as free as possible. Any restriction of the freedom of movement, any limitation with regard to the creation of mood and atmosphere, has to be avoided. Everything has to remain possible, all is to happen, the environment has to be created by the activity of life, and not inversely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mkmk8Xdz9Ps

>>11529085

Is this for naked lunch?

good post anon

>>11527677
Giving so much power to artless tech dweebs was a mistake. I honestly wish Stanford would be shut down

>>11528357
>>11528366
How is Quebec these days?

>>11532049
>Just as Unitary Urbanism cannot be reduced to questions of housing, it is also distinct from aesthetic problems. It opposes the passive spectacle, the principle of our culture (where the organization of the spectacle extends all the more scandalously the more the means of human intervention increase). In light of the fact that today cities themselves are presented as lamentable spectacles, a supplement to the museums for tourists driven around in glass-in buses, UU envisages the urban environment as the terrain of participatory games.

>UU is opposed to the fixation of people at certain points of a city. It is the foundation for a civilization of leisure and play. One should note that in the shackles of the current economic system, technology has been used to further multiply the pseudo-games of passivity and social disintegration (television), while the new forms of playful participation that are made possible by this same technology are regulated and policed. Amateur radio operators, for example, are reduced to technological boy scouts.
https://www.cddc.vt.edu/sionline/si/unitary.html

>If unitary urbanism designates, as we would like it to, a useful hypothesis that would allow present humanity to construct life freely, beginning with its urban environment, it is absolutely pointless to enter into discussion with those who would ask us to what extent it is feasible, concrete, practical, or carved in stone, for the simple reason that nowhere does there exist any theory or practice concerning the creation of cities, or the kind of behaviour that relates to it. No one "does urbanism," in the sense of constructing the milieu required by this doctrine. Nothing exists but a collection of techniques for integrating people (techniques that effectively resolve conflicts while creating others, at present less known but more serious). These techniques are wielded innocently by imbeciles or deliberately by the police. And all the discourses on urbanism are lies, just as obviously as the space organized by urbanism is the very space of the social lie and of fortified exploitation. Those who discourse on the powers of urbanism seek to make people forget that all they are doing is the urbanism of power. Urbanists, who present themselves as the educators of the population, have had to be educated themselves — by this world of alienation that they reproduce and perfect as best they can.
https://www.cddc.vt.edu/sionline/si/critique.html

>>11532035
You think Rome with 1 million inhabitants before basic notions of hygiene existed and filled with criminals from the provinces and freed slaves was not a fucked up place? Is not exactly a "safe" place to live compared to most rich countries today.


>>11532042
agreed

>>11528559
Berlin is an especially interesting example because its evolution is not tied to the economic situation. The city is poor and there are no jobs aside from some federal civil servant positions. The rise in the cost of living is entirely linked with people from outside the city that are not even trying to move in for better economic opportunities.

>>11529085
Good post, lmaoing@ the brainlets itt who don’t get it

>>11527742
crash the bikes

>>11530954
Nothing you could say could make me stop loving Zaxby's just so you know

>>11527951
this

wheres the anon who was going to buy a warehouse somewhere so we could set up a /lit/ colony irl?

>>11532074
We're decadent fucks like we've always been, I'll bitch about WASPs as much as anyone but there's no denying they at least are productive, in Quebec the only thing we do right is hedonism

>>11532267
i just put in an offer

>>11528419
Fucking weeb

>>11527830
Nobody says “San Fran” you fag.

>>11532921
Yeah, you're supposed to call it frisco.

>>11532267
>actually wanting to be anywhere near the pseuds on /lit/

>>11533229
have you spoken to the pseuds you know irl?

>>11533222
holy shit

>>11533305
I don't know any pseuds in real life

Is it possible to move to NY these days if you don't earn big money?

The irony of course is this guy and his readers are the prime example of the reason for the ongoing gentrification of any city. As soon as that fucker finds his next "divebar" the residents can expect to be eventually priced out of their homes

>>11533396
Yeah it's possible, but you won't live anywhere nice.

>>11533427
So Bushwick?

>>11533427
bedstuy, flatbush, buschwick, bronx, etc.

>>11533396
I've lived in the city for several years now. I don't consider myself a gentrifier because I'm working my way up from the bottom as my parents have no money.
Let me just say that EVERYTHING is locked down by the rich. The whole stratum of people holding the keys to a better life will glide right above you on velvet slippers. If you want to make it in the city and you already don't come from money, you better get good at getting rich people to like you so you can get a good job. Easier said than done but not impossible.
Unless, that is, you want to bust your ass working a next to minimum wage job just to keep afloat, in which case living here isn't worth all the trouble.

>>11533483
Thanks for the info.

I expected the rich to hold the keys but i'm not sure I can handle them holding the keys to everything and needing to kiss their ass.

>>11533419
They're like cultural vampires.

>>11533494
Well, I was being a little hyperbolic when I said "EVERYTHING" lol.
What I mean is that they have the keys to all the money. If you want money, and let's face it everyone in New York is there to make money, you need to go to the source.
There is very scarce free capital available. Real estate is a lost cause. The last time you could make major money off of a small investment in that area was the 80s, or perhaps a little later.
If you want grants, scholarships, low interest loans, excellent benefit packages, or startup capital, you need to know the right people and you need to sell them your story.
For some that's just too much of a tall order. It's hard as hell to get your foot in the door, let alone have VIPs remember you the day after you met.
If things don't work out for me after a few more years, I'd be happy to just take what I've learned and apply it to a less hard nut to crack. The difficulty of making it from scratch in other cities pales in comparison to NYC

Im not one of those racist types, but I find it strange to read articles from people who say a city is losing its character, while also wanting more diversity. I mean, if you appreciate cities like New York, Paris, Frankfurt, London, for having their own unique character and being what they are, why would you want to fill them with more diversity and change their character? Making everything diverse just means nothing is diverse because its all the same.

>>11530556
My sister lived just off Pigalle as a student, funny how it was known for being the arab part of the city in the last century, there's nothing titillating about it now, just tourists milling around the vestiges of a long dead red light area

Tourism just feels totally different nowadays. Whenever I visit New York there are SWARMS of people, so you can barely walk around. It just doesn't feel the same anymore, it feels like a nuisance.

I feel like the larger theme here, is that most people have moved "online" so to speak, and don't care as much about their surroundings. Now people want to go to work, go home, and not meet anyone else on the way. They want to have their group of friends on their social network and not have to be bothered with anyone else.

>>11533569
No city is homogeneous, despite what cosmopolites may claim. Anyone who says their city isn't changing fast enough isn't truly interested in what actually happens

>>11533587
This is an interesting point, and I think it does inform how the mechanisms of the city operate.
Specifically if you are looking at the newer generations of aspirational young people. "Old New York" is either a tightly knit and segregated ethnic community or it is the high-rise, gated opulence of old money or corporate money. Everyone in between is more or less delved into their personal tunnel-world of digitally-enabled private life, keeping to the circles they already have, and venturing into the crowds only when they are moving from point A to B.

>>11533560
These days you pretty much have to start off as upper-middle class or middle-class. You need to get high marks in high school, apply to the right universities for the right subjects, and then while working your ass off in school you need to land the right internships, which upon graduation will land you the right interviews to get the right jobs. In finance this is basically impossible unless you go to an Ivy League school. With a computer science degree from a good university and some solid internships it's quite doable.

if cities lose character because of mass wealth, then why is las vegas still so distinctive? its full of super rich casinos and massive hotels and yet the city is still bursting with character. it has used the promise of commercialization to turn the city basically into a den of sex, drugs, trashy shows and gambling but also unbelievably cool buildings and hotels. when i was there i also saw a lot of little side stuff like taco stands by mexians, tiny churches where you can get married and porn cards on the street. Why does Vegas have so much character, when cities like New York and LA are rapidly losing it?

>>11533646
Probably because it's just pure concentrated sex and greed, which has an inherent character of its own. Most cities are purely accumulations of wealth and capital; they prefer not to so obviously embrace greed and sex.

>>11533576
i would like to get a good thread going on tourism, but not sure how to have it be literary as well. kids on /trv/ are not mentally equipped to discuss the philosophy of travel/tourism/vacations/baudrillard

>>11533576
It's the old distinction of "travelling" and "tourism". You'll have to blame the commercialisation of everything for that.

>>11533646
i think the author conflates wealthy with 'desirable.' im from an upper middle class background and a certain sub section of that wealth stratum has emerged, who went to priavte schools, top 25 (but not top 5) colleges, interviewed on campus for their first job and got slotted right into a consulting gig in one of these cities. for these people, there are only 4-5 'acceptable' cities they wouldn't be embarassed telling their parent's boomer friends theyre moving to after college, and theyre the ones mentioned in the article: ny, dc, sf, boston. dallas is rich, but is not desirable. i dont know anything about vegas, but maybe its true of vegas too. the author wants to make this all about wealth, which is just lazy. there are more interesting cultural undertows at work and the 'gentrification' is just the superficial and most visible consequence

>>11533633
It's true that credentials and coming from the right class is half the battle, but many of those types are also just working stiffs with no vision and end up settled as middlings.

The smart money is on creative types, not just effective workers, because there's no price on a good idea.

>In finance this is basically impossible
I don't care about finance that's not my field and I know it's all an upper crust circle jerk.
You mentioned computer science and the tech industry, which does have many good jobs and relatively ample available opportunity.
To make it there it doesn't necessarily matter where you came from so long as you have a network. Tech companies are usually pragmatic and only prioritize the quality of one's work portfolio and not so much the pedigree.
If you want to make it as an artist or actor, god help you unless you're privileged or you're pretty enough to win everyone over with a wink and a nudge.

>>11533669
strangely its mostly a problem in the cities. when i visited yellowstone, zion national park and the grand canyon, there was a lot of breathing room and it didnt' feel suffocated by lots of people

>>11533678
i think the speed and availability of information is part of this too. you cant have a hip, neighborhood bar or authentic french wine town without it getting swarmed like a dead rodent the first time someone posts it on instagram

>spend your whole life believing in the progressive nonsense of multiculturalism and globalism
>live long enough to see it destroy everything once vibrant and unique about your home
It'd be tragic if they didn't so richly deserve it.

Fucking faggots.

>>11533684
>wink and a nudge
If only it ended at that.

this is also a problem with universities, harvard for instance used to have a lot of old gothic/cathedral like buildings and classic style pubs. now it feels like anywhere else

>>11533695
but the author is saying the opposite, it used to be interesting because of diversity and different cultures, now its all homogenized

>>11533704
I remember the New York Times running an article a few weeks ago about a company that specialised in tourist hotels for university towns.

>>11533707
>it used to be interesting because of diversity and different cultures, now its all homogenized
It's almost as if mixing paints only gets you brown.

It used to be interesting because it was different. Now, thanks to multiculturalism and globalism, it's all the same.

Remeber: if everyone's diverse, nobody is.

>>11533669
I'd love to see it, this thread is damn interesting. I love reading about peoples experiences with their surroundings and how they feel about it.

>>11533704
I visited Harvard a couple years ago and the entire campus was covered with Chinese families taking selfies with selfie sticks in Harvard merchandise.

>>11533712
but i still think you don't get what the author is saying, they are saying there used to be greek/jewish/korean/chinese/german restaurants and businesses all over the place. so thats a good thing for diversity and globalism. instead what has happened is that now all buildings are the same and it feels MORE mono cultural, not less.

>>11533712
>gentrification means more diversity
think about what you're actually saying

>>11533696
Heh

>>11533725
>it feels MORE mono cultural, not less.
Yes, and the reason for this is that human societies only have so much cultural bandwidth, and so when you get eight cultures and shove them in the same city they all keep losing bits of themselves until they're trimmed down to fit inside the cultural bandwidth.

The city is no more homogenised than it ever used to be. What has actually happened is that all of the other cities have developed the same culture. It's easy to see how.

>new york used to be inhabited by new yorkers
>had a unique new york culture

>boston used to be inhabited by bostonites
>had a unique boston culture

But then
>original new yorkers and bostonites get replaced by immigrants and become minorities in their own city
>they are unable to maintain the prevalence of their unique cultures while being a minority and their cultures wither and die
>they are replaced by an immigrant culture
>immigrants all come from the same place whether they end up in boston or new york so the immigrant cultures end up being the same
>new york and boston now have the same culture
What a surprise.

>>11533726
He thinks he's complaining about gentrification, but he's not really. Gentrification is a drop in the ocean - it's not going to change the actual make up of an entire fucking city, especially one the size of New York.

>>11533726
The whole diversity verses gentrification versus segregation debate is kind of poorly defined.

Segregated neighborhoods defacto have more concentrated "identity", but little diversity. They can either have some or no gentrification.
People don't want a segregated city. That's when you get ethnic rivalries and "can't go to the wrong neighborhood" like it was in the 70s.
At the same time, people have mixed feelings about gentrification. It's often racially coded. People of color sometimes resent when white people move into Harlem or other traditionally black or latino neighborhoods. Those whites sometimes but not always have more money, so does that automatically make them gentrifiers?
What if they make attempts to contribute like anyone else, does that absolve them of the epithet?
Gentrification is another poorly founded concept. If more transplants with money move into an area that doesn't always mean a bad thing. It only matters if they start pushing out the poor residents.
I know a case where reverse gentrification can happen, where a person who has had a family living in an area and owns property benefits immensely when rent and real estate prices skyrocket.
If more poor people owned their properties, or at least had them on loan from a bank rather than rent, their equity would benefit tremendously from gentrification making for them a good thing.

>>11530543
Holy shit go fuck yourself.

>>11530341
In a state that borders yours.

cities that still feel pretty decent: portland, pittsburgh, nashville, burlington, milwaukee

>>11533762
>People of color
You mean niggers?

Stop talking like a faggot, bitch boy.

we need more essays from people just writing about where they live. its why i liked orwell's writing so much

>>11533844
Peter Hitchens does short ones from time to time about places in England, always with a heavy dose of nostalgia.

Maybe I'm just getting older. But I no longer feel excited about visiting anywhere or walking around anywhere. It all just feels the same. Any positive interaction will mostly be artificial and what they really want to do is go back to the internet and their already established world of friends. The human world is now the online world, and the real world is just a shell of itself. When I walk around cities now I just see nothing but the negatives, the trash and the decay and the crime. There is no intimacy at all in anything. Even when I visit bars, it always feels so unfriendly and elitist, like they just want to help big parties and a random visitor is an uncool nuisance.

>>11533889
You sound like you're living in exactly the world that you deserve.

>>11533800
THE EDGE

>>11533889
*sip*

>>11533911
I apologise for nothing.

>>11528706
Historically, no one ever gave a shit about 99% of artists. The 1% exception were usually patrons of the wealthy/powerful, or the equivalent of pop artists.

the secret to making NYC feel interesting again is to move out to a rich white suburb in Southwest CT because they have great schools for your kids, and commute back and forth to work

suddenly every time you go back into the city on a non-work day and actually go anywhere but midtown Manhattan it seems cool again.


source: this is what my life has become. very un-/lit/ I know

>>11530543
>What we're going to be left with, and what's happening now, is that people will filter off into being a member of this homogenous, flattened culture or they will become misanthropic and xenophobic.

why not both? we are going to get more cases of psychotic hipster nazis as the californization of the world accelerates. californization. a good descriptor isn't it? whole foods/amazon, apple, starbucks, microbrews, rainbow capitalism, sanitized pseudo organic fixtures, cybernetic panopticon hell, algorithm optimised mind control, what noted mexican cultural critic Carles decried as 'contemporary conformism', Lasch's culture of narcissism, ESALEN institute-derived regimes of emotional discipline(doesn't the very name ALEXA call to mind old ELIZA? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84QouA9Sm4E)) nihilistic inter-passivity, it all comes in one universal package.

>The Racist Podcaster Who Started a Neo-Nazi Coffee Company to Fund White Nationalism

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/59qb93/the-racist-podcaster-who-started-a-neo-nazi-coffee-company-to-fund-white-nationalism

a further example of the same pathology:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Y_swmkPkE

>Every time I get worked up over this, about how manufactured and homogenous it all seems, I realize it's hard to see what the actual alternative would be. Because every town will change, this is the nature of modernity. If the flattened liberal culture doesn't come in, what will be there?

i just don't know. as everything becomes more homogenous, the absolute rupture represented by baudrillardian terror/ revolution liberated from all christian socialist eschatology will become more evident. giving yourself schizophrenia to own the libs suddenly seems like an eminently reasonable idea. it's no longer a question of left vs right, but one of the atlanticist antichrist versus its enemies(see Alexander Dugin). wwiii is a guerrilla information war with no distinction between civilian and military participation. subcultural fringes, rural backwaters, the 3rd world periphery, will become fertile breeding grounds for insurrectionary nomadic assemblages ready to strike out at the imperial core and its mechanisms of technosocial homogenisation. jam the signal. kick those feedback loops into overdrive. someday, I'll take you to disneyland...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJSsbXDBWXs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-P2aXAOBW4

>>11533900
I honestly do not know what you mean

>>11533956
>californization
nice. this needs to be a word.

>>11530522
Culture always changes and parts of it will always be lost. So what?

>>11533669
/trv/ is the oldest people on 4chan. The only kids on /trv/ are the ones looking over the shoulder of the thai sex tourists.

t. /trv/ler who remembers the Carter presidency.

>>11529085

>memetic antibodies

Thanks for the post, Styx. Put me down for 200 ml/day of pro-kekterase.

>>11533956

>californization

This term is so apt it hurts. Lifelong Vermonter, watching the Burlington lifestyle of grasping, materialist, faux-middle-class self-deceipt bleed into the periphery while taxation and regulation strangle out the native self-sufficiency and old rural culture. The Vermont term for an outside who doesn't understand the state is "flatlander" and that seems very fitting for the collective cultural ironing of individualist wrinkles this thread is discussing. Californization indeed.

Who the fuck cares about New York? Y'all are a bunch of rude fuckers with overinflated egos. Spending a few days there was enough to know that it's a shithole.

>>11534045

HEY I'M POSTING HEYUH

Tech and the internet are much bigger culture killers. Muh gentrification is just a result of such and throwing diversity at every major urban area isnt going to change that.

>>11533961
>>11534033
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtXiwSCq99Q

>>11527663
Everyone's talking about how terrible everywhere is, but that can't be it. Where IS worth going?

>>11534181
anywhere is fun if you have some friends and can rent an AirBNB and just go out to bars and stuff.

>>11527951
>favelas or frappuccinos

Nice canard

>>11534181
>Where IS worth going?
And you, forgotten, your memories ravaged by all the consternations of two hemispheres, stranded in the Red Cellars of Pali-Kao, without music and without geography, no longer setting out for the hacienda where the roots think of the child and where the wine is finished off with fables from an old almanac. That’s all over. You’ll never see the hacienda. It doesn’t exist.
THE HACIENDA MUST BE BUILT

>>11528272
I disagree somewhat about overpopulation. Sure, a lot of it is driven by transportation more than population per se.

But first of all, even if the *rate* hasn't increased, absolute numbers are staggering. The US has doubled, thw world has quadrupled. And nice places...they're not making any new ones. There's only one SoCal. There's only one Waikiki. Look up pictures of these places today and at almost any interval into the past and say there's not a problem.

>>11528665
lmao

>>11533646
The character of Las Vegas is so disgusting and trashy it's not even worth ruining, no one good has ever come from Las Vegas and I'd be happy to sit here and hear you try to come up with one but it would be a fruitless endeavor

>>11533691
Lmao this dilettante thinks he's not being crowded in Yellowstone and Zion

>>11534281
Las Vegas and San Fransisco are the two poles of hyperreality. Trump represents sovereignty as a borderline concept, beyond Him, nothing but a lovecraftian hellscape of sex and death, time nihilated at the slot machine

being against gentrification is basically the same thing as being against illegal immigration. but these milky liberals either willfully ignore that or refuse to see it

>>11531083
>https://foolishnessforcommunism.blogspot.com/2014/12/current-stream.html
Trying to read that was painful.

>>11527663
>its another "this highly privileged and rich place was so different when it was slightly less privileged and slightly less rich" article

Disgusting. Why do affluent people fetishize "real" city living?

>>11534522
fucking flyover faggot

>>11533756
But that anon already mentioned the original cultural diversity of those cities being slowly gentrified and sanitized so why are you still playing the race card?

The author and people like him on /lit/ make no sense to me. You want to be part of an artsy culture but do not seem to understand that art has always been backed by a) family wealth b) patron wealth c) sales of the art in question or d) lonely poverty. This idea of a bunch of artists congregating and sharing ideas and having no concerns with social mobility, class, etc. is pure fantasy. In fact, it comes closest to reality in exactly the situations you are complaining about: kids living off their parents' wealth to buy really nice apartments next to each other.

The cancer you all seem to be describing is yourself: you are the lack of personality you seem to find in others. Its a massive red flag that you talk about casually visiting the most wealthy cities in the world and are somehow communing with their divine spirit. I only ever hear this talk from wealthy people or, ironically, very poor people that are being interviewed or talked to by wealthy people. You think these "nooks and crannies" and "dive bars" were made to be hangouts for chic, so very intelligent, noble minded artists? No, they were made by working class people to earn a living, whom gave very little fucks for your newest short story about a brown person you once sat next to on the bus. They are not buying copies of the New Yorker and keeping up with the hottest trends in slam poetry. You are fetishizing poverty, or at least lower income classes than yourself.

It just makes no sense to me. Tons of working class people would love to be able to live like this. They certainly do not see million dollar apartments, ivy league college educations, or seven-figure salaries as "simulacra". Why is it only the children of the rich that hate their own culture? Even with all my haranguing, I see nothing wrong with this affluent lifestyle. Being able to travel freely, do whatever you want with your time, and experience a world-class education should all be good things. I just wish you'd all stop complaining about it. There is not much to the working class life: you live, you work, you do not have much time for higher-minded pursuits, you have a family, you die. Certainly, you will have some that make art, some that make very good art, but I return you to selection (d) above. Typically, not a fun life they had.

>>11529515
This has been happening since the rise of radio, at least. You could probably go even further and note it diminishing with trains and shit too. It's a consequence of living in a world where you can talk to people who don't live in the same town as you on the regular.

>>11534658
why is your reading comprehension trash

>>11532042
Says the man who's only left his country to go fuck Mexican whores on the cheap and has otherwise spent his whole life in front of a computer

>>11533646
>>11534281
Longtime Vegas resident, can confirm. What we have are
1) Foreign tourists, especially elderly Japanese
2) American tourists, generally partiers and old washed-up miserable people
3) Ghetto blacks in the north, easy to avoid
4) Californian transplants, mostly white and Asian, in the new suburbs throughout the whole metro, tinted windows on their BMWs and Audis
5) Hawaiian and Flip transplants, who have the gaudiness of the Californians but not the money, pretend to be gangsta but they're the first ones that will tell you how much they hate niggers
6) Older generation white Hispanics, mostly in old Henderson, people that own small family restaurants or gardening/electrical/pool cleaning companies and blast Norteño music from their trucks
I mean, the place has its perks, it's fairly cheap living, crime is easy to avoid in the right areas, traffic is very light compared to most large cities, and the cops are chill as long as you're not a dindu. But there's zero authentic culture here, it's as plastic as it gets.

>>11531158
Fentanyl is an opioid, quit posing.

>>11529508
>I don't care that you went to Georgetown! I don't care about your job on the hill!
I lived in DC for three years when I worked at the World Bank and I know exactly what you mean.

>>11531114
I think it's plagiarism.

>>11534581
>the original cultural diversity of those cities being slowly gentrified and sanitized
This didn't happen.

A handful of white hipsters did nothing to change the underlying demographics of these cities.

He is wrong.

>>11532034
>reading circles
Fag.

>>11533719
I've never been in any place of Western cultural significance where that wasn't the case.

>>11534658
Best post in this thread.

>>11534852
Nobody is saying that the underlying demographics didn't change, but the change weren't the cause of the demise of the culture.

>>11534925
>but the change weren't the cause of the demise of the culture.
They were the sole cause.

New York and Boston feel the same because the same people live in them.

>>11534931
Repeating yourself is not an argument.

>New York and Boston feel the same because the same people live in them.
Idk about Boston but that isn't true for New York

>>11533762
>People of color

Kys.

>>11534942
>Repeating yourself is not an argument.
You are not responding to my argument and therefore I am simply restating it until such a time as you do.

>Idk about Boston but that isn't true for New York
Yes it is.

Boston, New York, and all other "world cities" are inhabited by the same mix of immigrants, which is why their unique cultures are dead.

You cannot have a "Boston" culture without Bostonites, and you cannot have a "New York" culture without New Yorkers. When you replace New Yorkers with Pajeet or Mohammed or even Hans or Giuseppe you no longer have a New York culture.

>>11534181
Italy

>>11534956
>You are not responding to my argument and therefore I am simply restating it until such a time as you do.
Because you are failing to address or even understand what the author said and only repeating yourself with no proof.

>Boston, New York, and all other "world cities" are inhabited by the same mix of immigrants, which is why their unique cultures are dead.
So now you are saying NY and Boston has no unique culture even though the previous post you said otherwise?

Again the problem is that not that the city is losing its New York(TM) or Boston(TM), but each subcultures losing its uniqueness and becoming more bland

>>11534999
Be quiet and pay attention.

The author is complaining about the death of unique and interesting cultures, especially in New York. He thinks that the cause of this is gentrification. He's wrong. The cause of this is mass immigration without any attempt at assimilation.

The mechanism is as follows: human societies have a limited cultural bandwidth. When New York is inhabited entirely by New Yorkers, the New Yorker culture occupies this entire bandwidth. When immigrants come, they squeeze out some of the New Yorker culture because these cultures do not and cannot coexist. They compete for the bandwidth, which is finite. As more immigrants come the squeeze becomes so great that the local culture gets obliterated. Just go and look up any of the many studies that have been done on the death of the New York accent.

This has happened in major cities all over America and the world. This is why all the cities feel the same. The native populations have been replaced by immigrants who do not share the native culture and who smother it.

There is one and only one thing to blame: immigration. Not immigrants - the immigrants have done nothing wrong, and nothing worse than anyone else would do in their situation. But the policy of immigration and multiculturalism has done this, and that's why it's so rich to hear one of the progressive fuccbois who doubtless advocates this type of politics complaining about its effects.

IF YOU READ JUST ONE PART OF THIS POST, READ THIS PART:
Culture is not magic. Culture is HOW PEOPLE BEHAVE. When you change the people, you change the culture. It's that simple.

>>11527663
Anyone lived in Missoula, Montana? I visited there when I was looking at colleges. They seemed to have a good creative writing program, and it's a small town. I went to a reading there and there were about 30 people, not bad... the only reason I chose not to go was the weather was too gloomy. I'm from California and I know it would get to me after a while...

>>11535049
But you are just repeating yourself again with no proof. What "limited cultural bandwidth"? Using the example of New York is especially stupid since New York has always been receiving immigrants even before this author was around and building subcultures from it. The problem now isn't that the culture of all these cities are changing into something else (due to the change in demographics) but it is dying or less unique.

>>11535124
>But you are just repeating yourself again with no proof.
I have provided as much proof as the author of the article.

In both cases we are just whining about our opinions

>What "limited cultural bandwidth"
Culture is behaviour, and there's only so much time in a day that you can perform behaviours. Ergo there is a limit to the quantity of culture you can demonstrate, so there is a finite space for culture to occupy shared by all competing cultures in an area.

Limited cultural bandwidth.

>Using the example of New York is especially stupid since New York has always been receiving immigrants
Correct, and because of these immigrants the "original" English European culture of New York is dead, and even further back the original Indian culture of the New York area is dead.

Cultures can and do fucking die, and here we are seeing a culture die because of immigrants. It is being replaced by a different culture. This is normal, and it's happening all over America. The thing that the author is complaining about is the death of unique local cultures and their being replaced by a homogeneous global culture due to mass immigration and globalisation.

>>11528419
No. Culturally, Tokyo is just as bad, if not worse, than the cities we're talking about here.

>>11531186
Snap!

>>11531987
>>11531956
>The center of civilization
>An American city, lost up its own ass and doomed to empty globalism
Really makes you think...

>>11527951

extremely based post

>>11530906
Should a community not be allowed to select who joins it?

>>11533995
>t. /trv/ler who remembers the Carter presidency.
are you by any chance that oldfag from the 9/11 /tv/ thread the other day?

>>11535661
I am not. Don't really watch tv and never been on /tv/. But come on, 9/11? That isn't ancient history. I really hope it wasn't a bunch of kids who don't remember it. What thread?

>>11535661
>>11535701
Hmm, that was probably a typo for /trv/. But no, I didn't see it.

>>11535701
>>11535714
no sorry, i was mistaken. it started out about the o.j. trial and then branched out into other big happenings that dominated media and anons' recollections of them (9/11, waco, desert storm etc)

https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/101108210/

>>11530494
Plenty of bogans, population has an inferiority complex, all the hipsters move to Berlin and Melbourne (around 6 of my friends are gone)
So yeah it's pretty good desu but on a slow decline - it peaked before the mining boom.

>>11535845
- Perth that is

>>11535738
Heh, o.j. and that stupid low speed police chase. Ridiculous. Yeah all sorts of dumb stuff happened in the 90s. At least back in the 80s the commies were still going to bury us. Or surprise even the damn CIA by collapsing. You know, whichever.

goddamn, the more i read about the united states the more i'm grateful to be a slav

new thread:
>>11536374

>>11527663
>people caring about the local culture
Embrace the rural life. And I mean truly rural, not small town. With contemporary technologies for transport and communications, there are no advantage to city life anymore unless you are a turbo normalfag. And even them are getting more and more miserable.