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What great works of literature have the trickster archetype as a main character or a central theme.

>> No.11520747

>>11520739
Half of those aren't even deities.

>> No.11520858

>>11520739
The Odyssey, maybe the Aeneid(it's in my stack ok?), Huckleberry Fin.
Not remotely great, but American Gods.

>> No.11521037

>>11520739
Paradise Lost keke

>> No.11521212

>>11520739
Jack Sparrow

>> No.11522106

All that effort just to point out he has read Jung.

>> No.11522113

My diary desu

>> No.11523499

hey no no no no
hermes is not a fucking trickster, it doesn't even make sense
misrepresentation from non-canon bullshit from nigger outposts in eastern europe

>> No.11524168

>huehuwcoyotol
>mexico/brazil

>> No.11524197

>>11520858
Why didn't jung ever read a book about PIE mythology? He wasted his entire life, lol

>> No.11524202

>>11524197
I meant the you for
>>11522106

>> No.11525089
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11525089

In spanish this is the archetype of the "pícaro", which is spanish for trickster.
It's very famous and it is good and funny.

>> No.11525143

>>11520739
The Filthy Frank Show

>> No.11525271

>>11520739
my diary desu

>> No.11525341

>>11520739
I never heard a single damn iktomi story that wasn't mostly about him sleeping with some girl. I don't know where wikipedia got all that other crap.

>> No.11525579

>>11525089
picaresque is a somewhat well known word in English

>> No.11525610

>>11520739
>USA: Pepe/Kek

>> No.11526216

>>11520739
>half of those aren't deities
>Reynard the Fox central European
>Tokoloshe a trickster
>Hermes a trickster

Man fuck your gay-ass chart.

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>>11520747
Many of these ‘’non-deities’’ are recurring characters in folk tales and fables. The fox for example reaper in many European folktales as a mischievous con artist, perfectly in line with the trickster architype.

>> No.11526281

>>11524168
I suspected the pretty dumb chart was only created to include this joke. But apparently the deity is real or at least well-spoofed, as there’s a Wikipedia entry. Supposedly:
>huēhueh [ˈweːweʔ] "very old" (literally, "old old")
That can’t be right.

In any case…
>>11520739
"The Master and Margarita" is the book you’re looking for. I know no other book with that much mischief in it, or that big a bunch of tricksters. And yet it manages to not even be completely silly, but pursue a very nice philosophical/theological line of thinking.
So don’t put the book away when you hit the early Pontius Pilate chapter. It’s only afterwards that the real action starts; and in the end it will all make sense.

By the way, there is a whole genre called "Picaresque novel" more or less describing "trickster novel." A famous example would be Thomas Mann’s "Confessions of Felix Krull" – it’s not a silly book, though.

Finally I’d like to recommend "Lud-in-the-Mist," a very nice little early Fantasy / fairy tale novel. It’s got at least one trickster character; in addition, the whole theme of this novel is how reverie is an important part of life and such.

>> No.11526291

Mein Kampf