/lit/ - Literature

the bible

>>11514483
really dude? 'my religion is right yours is wrong'

>>11514479
Stirner

>>11514479
would tongue fuck these nostrils

>>11514479

Guenon's books, specifically 'The Crisis of the Modern World' and 'Reign of Quantity and the Sign of the Times'

>>11515048
What else can you tell me about these books? I'm interested.

>>11514479
Christopher Lasch is the man you are looking for

What's Wrong with the Right?
http://www.radicalcritique.org/2013/10/whats-wrong-with-right.html

Why the Left has no future.

http://www.radicalcritique.org/2009/10/why-left-has-no-future.html

If you are interested, check out his book the culture of narcissism which spells out in detail the reasons why we are doomed.

http://thezeitgeistmovement.se/files/Lasch_Christopher_The_Culture_of_Narcissism.pdf

Jacques Ellul.

http://media.sabda.org/alkitab-2/Religion-Online.org%20Books/Ellul,%20Jacques%20-%20The%20Humiliation%20of%20the%20Word.pdf


Eyes made for love/only reflect the world of objects/ without dreams and without reality/ to images we are condemned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGVy08T_pOM

>>11514479
Anti-politics is just dishonest right wing politics :^)

>>11514479
post-left anarchy

Mein Kampf unironically.

>>11515077

That there is a common unity to the high centers of non-western civilization (generally the Indian/Chinese/Islamic and well as their subdivisions), that they live (or did pre-westernization and in a few non-westernized areas today) according to an understanding of timeless metaphysical principles which necessarily underlie the deepest and/or most esoteric truths of every traditional religion, as all the serious religions in one way or another are reflections of these primordial truths. That these centers of traditional civilization are generally deeply guided by religion, that they view contemplation and intellectual matters as superior to action, that they generally view time as more or less cyclic and not as a linear progression, where almost everyone understands the proper order of things and their own role in it, where every aspect of society is characterized by a ritualistic and metaphysical symbolism profoundly linking it to the cosmic order and that this is the proper way that human civilization should function.

Western civilization is considered to be a degeneration from this model, in how it prefers action over contemplation, in how it enforces the orthodoxies of secularism and democracy, in how Christianity aside from a few exceptions deteriorated into a bland and empty moralism with no intellectual component, in how religious figures have little to no authority, etc. From this is traced the nihilism, materialism and cultural/spiritual/moral deterioration that has plagued the west. The solution is ultimately presented as returning the West to a Traditional civilization either by adoption of a traditional religion or by studying eastern doctrines and using that to rejuvenate Christianity (or barring either of those some cataclysm that allows for a drastic change).

From this perspective almost every political side and opinion in the West from far-left to far-right is considered profane and misguided by it being based on something other than these timeless metaphysical principles, all of what is referred to as politics in the West is seen as an unfortunate and unholy comedy of errors leading Western civilization further its downward spiral. The entire spectrum is wrong and anyone taking any position in it reveals their ignorance of things with an import and value going immeasurably beyond politics. The proper 'political' order is seen as one ruled by a mostly unchallenged authority which if not being theocratic is either heavily guided and influenced by if not reliant on those who play the role of priests and in that respective society. This is seen as reflecting the proper hierarchy and order established in the cosmos, and the correct implementation of that with regard to human affairs.

You can find all his books free here. If you want to understand his more metaphysical ones instead of the more society-focused ones you should start with 'Intro to Hindu Doctrines'.

https://archive.org/details/reneguenon

>>11515155
/thread

>>11515123
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-radical-lasch/

>>11515155
>>11515209
Nah, fascism is in the middle of the 'polarity'. It's not departed.

unironically marxism

CENTRIST GANG

>>11515281
how

>>11515295
I don't think it's centrism, anon. Is there a political stance where you want to just wipe everything clean and start again with a blank slate, without the chaos and power struggle of anarchism?

>>11515368
that's what i'm looking for. i've spoken to anarchists, they tend to be sjw's. they are basically leninists but think the state is evil and restrictive to their freedom (of being a transkin or whatever)

>>11515372
maybe the whole system is rigged at the psychosocial level and it is a question of finding new ways to relate to others starting at the local level.

>>11515169
Cringe

>>11515281
unironically agree, along with criticism of marxism. not feels > reals didn't-read-the-book right wing criticism, though.

>>11515252
natsoc isn't fasicm

>>11515169

A broken clock is right twice a day

>>11515368
You can't just "wipe the slate clean" without chaos and a power struggle. Maybe some kind of schizoid disorder. Furthermore, there is no stance there, just an impossible action. My gosh.

>>11515477
not the guenon poster, but youre among the lowest scum on 4chan

>>11515388
>the whole system is rigged at the psychosocial level

that's right. but how do we fix it and explain this?

>>11514479
John Milbank, in a way. See "Beyond Secular Order" and "The Politics of Virtue".

>>11515747
probably by memeing a schizo-autistic public think tank designed to fingerprint and out potential dissenters.

>>11515638
Wrong

>>11515368
>>11515372
>>11515388
>>11515747

DECENTRALIZATION

>>11515815
>Decentralization to become more centrist
LOL

>>11515820
I hope you're joking. The two have nothing in common.

>>11515784
Found the second lowest

>>11515815
maybe the only political question that matters is this: how do you manage variety? the cybernetic model of society already exists, but it is in the wrong hands a tool for the endless accumulation of profit and information. likewise, mass media advanced beyond the wildest dreams of the 60s, is being misused to perpetuate a culture of narcissism and total surveillance, when we could be using it to explore new levels of consciousness.
https://monoskop.org/images/e/e3/Beer_Stafford_Designing_Freedom.pdf

>>11515777
schizo-autist uprising when?

>>11515884
>mass media advanced beyond the wildest dreams of the 60s, is being misused to perpetuate a culture of narcissism and total surveillance, when we could be using it to explore new levels of consciousness.

ESCAPE FROM FUN PALACE

>Initiated with Joan Littlewood, the theatre director and founder of the innovative Theatre Workshop in east London, the idea was to build a ‘laboratory of fun’ with facilities for dancing, music, drama and fireworks. Central to Price’s practice was the belief that through the correct use of new technology the public could have unprecedented control over their environment, resulting in a building which could be responsive to visitors’ needs and the many activities intended to take place there.

>>11515169
Reading this book atm, got a couple of thoughts/questions other anons might be able to discuss with me.

In the chapter about sacred and profane science he says that 'sacred sciences'are those whose procedures are designed with adherence to the perennial metaphysical ideal in mind. Without going into detail, he mentions that the same dichotomy might be applied to art, ergo, classic arts could be deemed sacred and modern arts profane, on the basis that the former has perennial truth alive within it. This means, according to the framework established by the rest of the book, that those arts which are deemed sacred must have something super-individual in them. Does this mean that the great artist necessarily has the gestalt struggle of their native culture play out inside their own psyche? meaning that those cultures which are based on metaphysical realities will create arts which reflect those same realities. Or do individuals with the true artistic tendency, regardless of culture, have the perennial truth buried somewhere within their own soul?

or am I just a brainlet missing something huge?

>>11515884
reading this now.

>>11514479
'on the abolition of all political parties' by Simone Weil.

>>11514569
>politics = "x is right, ¬x is wrong"
that's every book. especially "anti-politics is right, politics is wrong"

>>11515966

>Without going into detail, he mentions that the same dichotomy might be applied to art, ergo, classic arts could be deemed sacred and modern arts profane, on the basis that the former has perennial truth alive within it. This means, according to the framework established by the rest of the book, that those arts which are deemed sacred must have something super-individual in them.

The proper term would be supra-individual and not super but yes that's correct.

Does this mean that the great artist necessarily has the gestalt struggle of their native culture play out inside their own psyche? meaning that those cultures which are based on metaphysical realities will create arts which reflect those same realities. Or do individuals with the true artistic tendency, regardless of culture, have the perennial truth buried somewhere within their own soul?

If you want to post the exact passage I could probably explain exactly what he meant at that part, but as far as I understand him the way it works is that 'Traditional' works of art are ones that have this element of ritual and symbolism, which have a metaphysical significance, which are directly connected to one or another doctrine and so on. In almost all cases this would be done consciously and deliberately by the artist, and the source of him knowing how to do this would be both instruction in the method by an experienced teacher or by a solid understanding of the doctrine involved, which could be aquired as a part of one's instruction in the art. So it's not as though the artist is a microcosm of the society at large and uses this to create the traditional art, but rather that the perennial truth is inevitably formulated slightly differently according to culture and era, and that whatever doctrine that form takes in a given set of circumstances is taught to people including artists, who then use it for inspiration and guidance in their craft.

The truth is regarded as existing on it's own independently of humans and theoretically anyone who reaches a high enough state of spiritual realization could reach a partial or decent understanding of it, although almost all the times that an understanding of it occurs to such a a degree that a new religious tradition is established on that it is a rare and special occurance involving non-human origins, having to do with the direct intervention or the manifestation of the guiding and harmony-promoting aspect of the all-encompassing divinity; e.g. avatars, Christ, the angel Gabriele and Muhammad, the Sruti, the myths and symbolism surrounding the birth and life of Buddha etc.

>>11514479
Just read up on how political opinions are determined by genetic factors and you will realize it's all a giant waste of time.

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