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>I do not think Putin is a character like Hitler. He comes out of Dostoyevsky.


can any o yall motherfuckers explain this shit to me damn


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kissinger-talks-putin-trump-ai-and-more-over-lunch-with-the-ft-2018-07-21

>> No.11512167

He’s a Russian Author known for powerful character driven works

>> No.11512188

>>11512167
yeah but which character? the only one i've read is crime and punishment and i don't think putin is like that guy. i've heard the idiot is about a guy who values the little things in life, but i don't think he meant that. is kissinger just trying to sound smart one last time? has anyone read other dostoyevsky novels?

>> No.11512223

>>11512188
Probably Demons but he doesn't resemble either of the main villains too much (one is a weak, manipulative mastermind/the other is a strong and intelligent but ultimately morally degenerate lunatic)

>> No.11512227

>>11512223
Sounds like the latter.

>> No.11512250

>>11512223

I started this thread on pol too

>>>/pol/179914281

and i think this response corresponds with what you said

>> No.11512255

Use anything else other than that goblin's war criminal face as OP on the next one.
Not even reading this, I can't think who's the bigge asshole, Dostoievski, Kissinger or Putin.

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>>11512255
that was his best picture too

>> No.11512325

>>11512161
I've never read Dostoyevsky but...

Hitler was a fanatical blood-thirsty genius who was at heart an artist but failed because he turned his energies outward rather than inward. Putin strikes me as rather bland. Perhaps a psychopath. He's calm, cool, arrogant, assured, etc. Trump is a narcissistic fool. Of all of them Hitler was by far the most dangerous because he was sincere, fanatical, idealistic, and genuinely blood-thirsty. Trump and Putin strike me as having personalities in the normal range. They are typical manly guys. Trump is so obviously mentally unwell that no intelligent person in Congress or his cabinet takes him seriously. It's all a front and political game to keep the party from collapse. So he's basically harmless. Putin is obviously more dangerous. And seems to like playing chicken

Idk. That's my take....

>> No.11512341

He does not mean a specific character. But the arhitipe, sorng willed who move in the world by the bases of their convictions, and dont care about the opinions of others.

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>>11512341
interesting. that would make sense

this guy on pol said he was referencing Oswald Spengler

>>>/pol/179916298

>> No.11512425

>>11512161
>Henry 'The Khmer Rouge is my Dudes' Kissinger
Dropped

>> No.11512457

>>11512398
I didn't know that KYSigner was such a big guy...

>> No.11512460

>>11512398
Henry K looks like he's plump with the blood of unbaptized gentile infants

>> No.11512510

he's saying he's a czarist who appreciates the benefit of both religious fervour and half naked in the snow whores to the masses voting you in as much as is legal. he doesn't mean the "russians hate dosto" meme that's actually present in russia, but the world view present in dosto

>> No.11512540

>>11512510
>"russians hate dosto"
what's this you speak of

also, how is that a contrast to hitler? wasn't traditionalist too?

>> No.11512550

>>11512398
absolute unit

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>>11512457
4u

>> No.11512575

>>11512398
what level of realpolitik is this?

>> No.11512886

>>11512398
Turns out he starved the Soviet Union by eating all of their food!

>> No.11513011

>>11512161
Kissinger is one of the worst Americans of all time.

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>>11513011
>kissinger
>american

>> No.11513022

>>11513016
Yes, he's an American citizen and has been for most of his life.

>> No.11513030

>>11513011
i'd say he pales in comparison to modern neocons, at least he didn't envision a globally dominant hegemony

>> No.11513059

>>11512255

this

>> No.11513075

Dosto was a religious reactionary who wasn't fond of Jews (or Pollacks), that's all I know.

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>>11513011

>> No.11513597

>>11513574

What's fedora about not admiring a war criminal?

Oh, I forgot, we are /pol/ now.