Maximalist Literature

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Maximalist Literature Anonymous Sun Jul 15 22:18:35 2018 No.11468095 [Reply] [Original]

Any good maximalist literature not on pic related?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 15 22:28:56 2018 No.11468144 palinuro of mexico by fernando del paso terra nostra carlos fuentes the gold bug variations by richard powers the bible

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 15 23:58:03 2018 No.11468477 File: 3.02 MB, 400x241, Klove_team.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11468095 I like maximalist music and movies, will I like these books?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 00:01:32 2018 No.11468493 File: 243 KB, 411x255, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] maximalist genrefic

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 00:25:23 2018 No.11468590 I will never understand how people still see something in Don DeLillo novels. I've tried many times and they're just bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 00:28:03 2018 No.11468598 >>11468477 Just fucking read them and find out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 00:45:25 2018 No.11468644 >>11468493 Did you like this? What's it about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 00:46:57 2018 No.11468647 >>11468095 Angles of Repose by Wallace Stevens Stones of Summer by Dow Mossman

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 04:46:59 2018 No.11469370 >>11468095 Does 2666 even belong there? It's just big.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 05:21:15 2018 No.11469457 File: 50 KB, 420x675, 9781623562915.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11469370 somebody asks this every thread. go read the book that solidified the term and find out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 05:26:04 2018 No.11469469 >>11468590 2deep4u

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 05:47:57 2018 No.11469554 >>11468095 Why isn't Ulysses on there? >>11468477 What are your favorite maximalist movies?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 05:59:00 2018 No.11469600 >>11469554 Wolf of Wall Street, John wick 2, mission impossible ghost protocol and rogue nation, Man from U.N.C.L.E, the hunger games catching fire, Incredibles 1 (2 was shit), la la Land, and drive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 06:01:31 2018 No.11469613 >>11469554 "It is an aesthetically hybrid genre that developed in the United States in the early 1970s and then spread to Europe at the beginning of the twenty-first century" Ulysses is the foundations.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 06:08:09 2018 No.11469642 The Apes of God by Wyndham Lewis

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 06:09:12 2018 No.11469647 >>11469600 How are they maximalist? I was under the impression maximalism in film was more along the lines of Sion Sono & Seijun Suzuki's post 1980 movies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 06:11:50 2018 No.11469663 >>11469457 No, why would I?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 06:13:40 2018 No.11469668 >>11469647 I think you may have been 'trolled'.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 06:14:44 2018 No.11469674 >>11469668 Explain how they are maximalist though

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 06:17:42 2018 No.11469683 >>11469457 Well you obviously haven't read it yourself, otherwise if seeing this question bothers you every thread you would explain why it is Maximalist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 06:21:24 2018 No.11469689 Virginia Woolf desu To the Light house could have been 50 pages.

>>	kinggucci69 !!36GpOxAcrVH Mon Jul 16 06:22:42 2018 No.11469693 >>11469647 shhhh he doesn't really anything about films

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 06:25:17 2018 No.11469702 >>11469600 what the fuck are you on about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 06:28:39 2018 No.11469710 The Adventures of Kavalier and Clay by Michael Chabon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 06:29:40 2018 No.11469716 >>11469683 Why would I do your homework for you kiddo?

Anonymous Mon Jul 16 07:20:06 2018 No.11469848

>>11469674
Only gonna do a couple of these movies because they're a lot and I don't have time. Basically, the definition for maximalism is more is more. Wolf of Wall Street is over the top and ridiculous with the lengths it will go to to make you laugh. The stuff they do in it seem larger than life and highly idealistic. It's filled with many different characters, settings, schemes, and gags to make the movie as enjoyable as possible. Look at the other movies I listed. Do they not also stuff their movies to create an enjoyable and satisfactory experience? Do they all not have qualities that would many times be associated with what is known as maximalist?

The mission impossibles have Tom cruise scaling skyscrapers, chasing people on motorcycles, and almost killing himself to deliver some of the best action movies of the 21st century. The stakes are high, the movies are jam packed with stunts, themes, and colors in attempts to deliver fast paced, adrenaline pumping escapades to the movie goer. Hollywood nowadays goes to extreme lengths to stand out from all the other blockbusters that are released almost on a weekly basis. Maximalist movies like these are a response to the current Zeitgeist.
>>11469693
Never said I was a movie connoisseur.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 07:33:44 2018 No.11469885 >>11469716 Nice rebuttal. Smooth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 07:34:39 2018 No.11469887 Kindly ones

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 07:50:54 2018 No.11469923 >>11469457 Dude it's so simple!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 07:51:55 2018 No.11469927 >>11469554 Inherent Vice

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 08:44:19 2018 No.11470027 File: 571 KB, 1200x1800, a naked singularity.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11468095

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 11:20:40 2018 No.11470504 >>11469370 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 13:55:34 2018 No.11471081 >>11469848 >Maximilist means more Brain not found.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 14:02:31 2018 No.11471107 >>11468647 Stegner, not Stevens; Angle, not Angles

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 14:06:54 2018 No.11471124 neal stephenson

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 14:17:14 2018 No.11471177 >>11471124 yikes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 14:17:34 2018 No.11471179 >>11469600 lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 14:19:04 2018 No.11471188 >>11469554 The Holy Mountain, 2001: A Space Odyssey,

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 14:22:35 2018 No.11471200 >>11468095 You Bright And Risen Angels, The Royal Family, Seven Dreams

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 14:23:08 2018 No.11471202 >>11469600 Lmfao, try /tv/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 14:25:11 2018 No.11471208 >>11471188 isn't THM just a long surrealist indie film? it's great though

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 14:25:49 2018 No.11471210 >>11469600 >the hunger games catching fire really? Wolf of Wall Street is pure kino

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 14:27:12 2018 No.11471219 >>11468095 What is maximalism? Just Pomo doorstoppers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 14:27:51 2018 No.11471222 >>11471219 >>11469457

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 14:29:41 2018 No.11471233 >>11471177 it's true though

Anonymous Mon Jul 16 14:36:01 2018 No.11471263
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>>11471081
>"In thearts,maximalism, a reaction againstminimalism, is an esthetic of excess and redundancy. The philosophy can be summarized as "more is more", contrasting with the minimalist motto "less is more"[1]"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 14:36:04 2018 No.11471264 >>11471208 Maybe. Would you consider Magnolia or Pulp Fiction as maximalist films?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 14:37:16 2018 No.11471266 >>11471202 /tv/ sucks, they just hate everything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 14:37:20 2018 No.11471267 >>11468644 fantasy and shit and stuff

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 16:44:07 2018 No.11471767 File: 135 KB, 700x525, 588263.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 16:45:20 2018 No.11471775 >>11469647 Seijun Suzuki's Taisho Trilogy, Absolutely. This anon knows. It's not a easy watch per se, but it more than deserves your attention.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 17:19:57 2018 No.11471937 >>11468590 Not all of us are brainlets

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 17:22:53 2018 No.11471954 >>11471264 Postmodern, for sure. Maximalist - to some degree, maybe. Enter the Void is something I'd call maximalist without hesitation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 17:23:53 2018 No.11471959 >>11468477 What's some good maximalist music?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 21:27:16 2018 No.11473012 >>11471959 Kanye Wets- My beautiful dark twisted Fantasy Everything everything- get to heaven

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 21:57:20 2018 No.11473128 >>11469457 I found it odd that the book includes White Teeth (not a remarkably maximalist book) and some obscure foreign work over more obvious examples

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 21:59:08 2018 No.11473133 >>11471959 Alfred Schnittke

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 22:25:39 2018 No.11473236 >>11471959 King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard Tame Impala (in that it's pretty meticulously made by 1 guy)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 22:26:25 2018 No.11473240 >>11471959 Lil Pump

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 22:33:06 2018 No.11473271 File: 46 KB, 384x346, 46_yo_boomer.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11471081 >>11471263 > Maximalism means more > it actually means More is more

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 22:34:06 2018 No.11473275 >>11471954 that's a good movie

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 22:38:01 2018 No.11473287 >>11471767 imagine the smell

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 22:40:54 2018 No.11473297 >>11473287 >>11471767 I'm already sneezing just by seeing that image.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 22:51:04 2018 No.11473346 >>11473271 What are you trying to say?

Anonymous Mon Jul 16 23:37:37 2018 No.11473525

Does Maximalism *have* to be postmodern? If so the only recs I can think of would be Arno Schmidt and maybe Vollman. But I think older works like Tristram Shandy, The Manuscript Found In Saragossa, Jerusalem Delivered, and even maybe The Ambassadors would fit the criteria, at least as predecessors.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 23:42:40 2018 No.11473545 >>11471264 Magnolia is absolutely a maximalist film

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 16 23:43:45 2018 No.11473547 >>11471959 lil ugly mane

Anonymous Tue Jul 17 06:39:28 2018 No.11474431

>>11473128
I agree with White Teeth being a poor example in the book, it's in there to talk about the shift to Europe I think.
2005 Dopo Cristo is a really good example too but being not in English it throws people off. It mostly gets it's maximalist features from the fact it's written by 4 authors in collaboration, each with a lot of freedom.

>>11473525
It's defined as that. Vollmann is maximalist imo, everything prior is like building blocks for the foundations. The book discusses how Gaddis is like a turning point for the definition.
Schmidt I would only say Bottom's Dream is anything close to maximalist, his strictly first person narration technique goes against the core principal of maximalist literature, I still consider him a late modernist in his earlier writings which usually either discuss wartime/postwar Germany or use a Romantic era storytelling frame for him to apply his prose forms. Prose forms. Only prose form 3 makes it close with the footnoting and insertion of full lit crit sections into the text, but he's just trying to transplant Finnegans Wake Joyce into dialog.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 06:57:03 2018 No.11474457 >>11474431 *Everything prior to postmodernism is the foundations, that is. I phrased that confusingly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 07:00:38 2018 No.11474460 >>11471959 Brian Ferneyhough and New Complexity in general

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 09:10:15 2018 No.11474760 >>11471263 >Wikipedia

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 09:51:19 2018 No.11474867 >>11468095 so big books

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 09:54:13 2018 No.11474871 >>11473236 >Tame Impala (in that it's pretty meticulously made by 1 guy) wut

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 09:58:19 2018 No.11474882 >>11471959 Clarence Clarity - No Now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 10:37:20 2018 No.11474991 >>11468095 William T. Vollmann and Alberto Laiseca with Los Sorias. I bet u fuckers try and read it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 11:05:49 2018 No.11475085 >>11468095 Going by this graphic I understand maximalism as "all the books /lit/ has never convinced me to read"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 11:10:45 2018 No.11475111 >>11475085 Found the pleb.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 12:51:08 2018 No.11475559 >>11471959 industrial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqSr75Fc0pQ

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 14:06:16 2018 No.11475862 Seiobo There Below, Laszlo Krasznahorkai.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 17:14:28 2018 No.11476678 >>11473128 >>11469457 You know why they did it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 21:29:38 2018 No.11477723 >>11476678 (((they)))

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 22:30:00 2018 No.11477998 >>11474871 Yeah it's just Kevin Parker who composes/records everything >>11475085 All the books I've read up there are fantastic

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 22:47:47 2018 No.11478076 >>11471959 Gachimuchi

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 03:51:34 2018 No.11478967 >>11471767 which of these are worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 06:27:40 2018 No.11479297 >>11478967 All of them, Letters is an hard choice though.

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