/lit/ - Literature

is there a chart for hard scifi? like actually science based scifi?

>>11437776

>heraclitus
>ionian

Oook

>>11437786
>Ordering the myths chronologically rather than reading by era of the actual authors

The most pleb reading list I've seen of the Greeks. Start with Homer.

Post.
The.
City-state.
Charts.

Make way for the only chart you actually need.

Is there a chart like this for judaism?

>>11437780
You have part one?

Middle Eastern literature or history?

>>11437776
>>11439734

Do the people who make charts like this read all the books in it before doing so? I can't imagine reading that many books on one subject

Just go to the wiki and stop making these

>>11439853
At first they were made with some sort of board consensus, but I imagine they're mostly assembled through research.

>>11438237
I admit it, I laughed

>>11439741
we really put 100 Years of Solitude above War and Peace, we're a fucking meme ISIS please jihad this board

>>11438237
Siege next to Black Panther always cracks me up

>>11439917
Still gotta disagree with Hyper on this one, I prefer slavros route

>>11438334
I have no idea why, but no.

>>11440369
Anybody got a chart for Hittite or Latin language learning?

>>11437776
Any charts on Nietzsche?

>>11440525
Read in order, beginning to end

>>11442058

>>11437776

>>11442104
what?

>>11438297
similarly, one for buddhism?

>>11437776
Any charts for books by English speaking authors?

>>11442363

>>11442529
thx senpai

>>11442529
any recommendations to start with?

>>11442616

I personally liked What the Buddha Taught, its a bit westernized, but for someone who does not have the context and foreknowledge it has a great academic feel to give me a footing in Buddhism.

>>11440487
>Latin
1) Get Lingua Latina per se illustrata. It teaches Latin with zero English (or any language other than Latin) involved. You start slow and build upwards. It uses pictures to describe words as necessary.

2) Get Wheelock's Latin.

3) Begin the Dowling method
>Memorize all 5 declensions
>Memorize all 4.5 conjugations
>Memorize them, faggot

4) Go through Wheelock's and Lingua Latina per se illustrata. Use Wheelock's as a guide to grammar as you go. Wheelock's gets you into reading Latin to translate it, Lingua Latina per se illustrata will get you into reading Latin to read Latin. Being able to do both is important.

>>11440525
BROOHAHA

>>11440525
Wow! Thanks

>>11442155
updated version of this chart

>>11437776
roll chart

>>11438236
This

>>11444380
Where are Varg's book?

>>11444446
>people actually care about what varg has to say

>>11444446
>varg

>>11444446

Varg's books are a meme

11444446

>>11444444

>>11444446
>>11444465
>>11444482
What is wrong with Varg?

>>11444760
>church burner, resulting in the death of a firefighter
>also just a regular murderer
>hasnt made good music in forever
>his roleplaying game is shit

>>11444999
>he didn't
>self defense
>his last 2 albums were his best yet
>I don't know

>>11445046
>yes he did, hes admitted to it, he even did at the time of the arsons
>gave someone his card to take out money to make it look like he was somewhere else, rented a movie he had already seen so he could recite the plot to police later and say he was home watching it. got driven to euros place in the back seat while hiding under a blanket, then stabbed him dozens of times and lied to the police after (all his own words)
>lol
>it is

>>11439734
>>11438214

Anyone have a Faulkner chart?

>>11444760
Hes an atheist and no actual Pagans like him

>>11445325
Pleaze

>>11438236
Can you tell me more about this city-state meme?

>>11444361

do you mind if I roll ITT?

>>11445325
>>11446339

>>11446942

>>11444361
H

>>11440376
Not the same guy but Hyper's is more polished.
Plus I'm still waiting on Crablord's book on Evola.

>>11444361
rolll

>>11446009
>actual pagan
lmao

>>11440525
Does anyone perhaps know who this is?

Any charts/recs for more beginner tier fiction? I've just started reading fiction, almost done with A Clockwork Orange and I really like it. Looking for stuff that's maybe dealing with more brutal subject matter and maybe a bit philosophical.

Was thinking Blood Meridian? I've heard it's a bit hard to read though.

>>11447254

>>11444361
rollin

>>11444361
rollan

>>11444361
roland

>>11444361
role

>>11444361
Nuh

robot-tier

>>11444361
rolling

>>11437776
Should I read through all the works of each individual person on this chart in the order it presents before trying to tackle SubaHibi?

>>11444361
here we go

>>11444361
Rollin

>>11444361
AAAAA

>>11444361
roll

>>11439917

>Ébola

Not even once

>>11446942
>>11445325
>>11446339
Start with his short stories in general, not just "A Rose for Emily". Faulkner's short stories are eclipsed by his novels, but he really is a great short fiction writer. Anyone getting into writing ought to read them, they're exemplary of the craft, I think.

>>11444361
rollino del'rinno

>>11444361
Roll

>>11439741
rolling

>>11444361
here we go

philosophy does not have monopoly on critical thinking

>>11444361
Air raid vehicle

>>11438127
2nd

>>11438237
saved

>>11444361
let's see this

>>11439741
roll why not

>>11438237
lmao

>>11439741
Rolle

>>11439741
rolling bb

>>11451527
not available in my local library rolling again

>>114397413
roll

is there a chart for intro to modernist drama? I've read some Brecht, Lorca, Ibsen, Chekov, and Wilson but trying to figure out where to go from here.

>>11442104
I don't get it

There isn't even any any continuity between the plays that take place during the Trojan War and the epics. You're missing too much context to link the works. Just read the epics and Summary of the Epic Cycle first then keep the plays until the complete works for the respective authors. Otherwise, pretty good.

>>11452169
>>11437786
Forgot to quote

>>11437780
ha ha, just read cyrano de bergerac bro.. :)

>>11444361
rollan

>>11444361
Rollin'

>>11439741
Rollie

>>11444361
let's go

>>11444361
roll

>>11440525
OP here, get that shit outta my thread.

>>11439741
rolling

>>11438237
Seinfeld is the endgame of everything, the final boss and magnum opus of all Western tradition.

I'm not even trolling.

Can I have a chart chart

>>11439741
rollerino

>>11440525
>Matemática
>she looks insanely similar to a girl I know from Brazil, though they're not the same
Where is this from, OP?

>>11439741
roll

>>11444361
rollinho

>>11439741
Rollllllllllllll

>>11444361
roll

>>11444361
Roll?

>>11439741
roll

>>11444361
roll

>>11439741
eh

>>11439741
only the last number matters

>>11444361
rollll

>>11446009
>believing in fairytales
He is a real Pagan. Other "pagans" regard the Gods in a Christian way.

>>11439741
rolll

>>11444361
How does this work?

>>11442529
Buddhist lit? Almost none of these are actually original texts. Just what some white guy thinks Buddhism means.

>>11438297
thanks i needed some more toilet roll.

Reposting a chart I made a while ago about various Beowulf editions for the odd anon into OE literature.

>>11439741
roll

>>11444361
rollarol

>>11442616
Don't listen to the chart >>11458362 is right. Read the suttas directly. For starters I would recommend the vajracchedika prajnaparamita sutra: a general explanation if you are interested in zen, Oxford Classics Dhammappada or the Khaggavisana sutta if you are into Theravada. If you are interested in esoteric buddhism, there is little translated and most of the doctrines are passed on verbal to initiated monks. Shingon Vajrayana buddhism is probably the most accessible, so you should find a Mahavairocana tantra.

>>11458275
last two digits of your reply signify the book you get. then there are alternate options depending on the row. so for instance with that reply you got Cannonball by Joseph McElroy or Five Plays by Chekov

>>11458553
Thanks for backing me up anon. If I might make a more casual suggestion, there is a very decent Penguin "Buddhist Scriptures" volume that while limited in scope, manages to give you a good selection of the original texts. Also, if you find these selections try your patience, just wait motherfucker, it's not going to get better from here.

>>11439741
Fuck it, roll

>>11439741
Roll

>>11444361
fuck it just got paid

>>11438214
I dont get charts like this. Why the fuck would someone need 163 books in such a niche genre? Even if you read on of these every month, it would take you 15 years to finish this chart.

>>11444361
rOll

>>11437776

>>11439741
rol

>>11458980
You don't say.

not a chart but

>>11447765
>implying any robot would go to war
the main character in journey to the end of the night was good with women, too

Any lefty starter charts?

>>11458553
>>11458601
The Mahayana sutras aren't canonical anon only the Pali Canon is

>>11459627
This post made me realise we need a virgin theravada vs Chad mahayana meme

>>11459582
just check out das autonome blättchen

I'm looking for a chart on post-apocalyptic fiction that isn't the shitty one I made a year ago.

Can someone provide?

>>11458787
More options for different people.

>>11459631

The Virgin Puthujjana Mahayanist:

>avid subscriber of Tricycle
>retweets the Dalai Lama on twitter
>disrespects arahants
>thinks he can be enlightened and still be subject to birth in samsara
>worships weird made up deities
>puts off his self development to help others (foolish)
>thinks that all beings have 'buddha-nature'
>has false view and will never attain nirvana


The Virgin Puthujjana Theravadin:

>"just follow the breath"
>doesn't know that breath is a metaphor for the atman (literally "breath" in sanskrit)
>the buddha taught we have no permanent soul
>thinks that enlightenment can exist without a self that is englightened
>thinks the Theravada school is the oldest
>attends retreats
>thinks that 'middle-path' refers to moderating eating and sleeping
>thinks only monks can attain final gnosis
>has false view and will never attain nibbana

The Chad Ariyasavaka:

>knows that the Atman exists and is the only refuge
>knows that attaining nirvana is equal to becoming Brahman
>knows that neo-platonic thought was a revival of original Buddhism
>knows that the 'middle path' refers to the strip of light down the middle of the night sky of the milky way galaxy as a metaphor for the path that leads to Brahman (the absolute)
>knows that the Buddha was a Rishi and rediscovered the ancient path that the ancient Vedic sages found long ago
>has right view and will eventually attain final gnosis

>>11437776
Not having Jung in there is a bit of an oversight to say the least.

>>11439741
rollin

>>11439741
Roll

Anybody have a German lit chart?

>>11460604

>>11444361
roll

>>11439741
roll

>>11460618
thanks babe<3

>>11439741

röll

>>11444361
roll

>>11444361
skadink

>>11459669

>>11447765
What does it mean to be recommended for /r9k/?

>>11458390
What worth is old English outside of reading Beowulf?

>>11444446
>There are people out there whose first introduction to paganism is varg

>>11462056
It's a niche interest for sure and not for everyone. But if you are the kind of person who is interested in germanic myth and medieval christianity, enjoys Tolkien, is curious about english etymology, etc, it's incredibly fulfilling and fun to study.

The poetic corpus is not huge, I think it's something like 12,000 to 15,000 lines max (Beowulf is about 3000). But a lot of it is really interesting material. Besides the germanic/heroic violence material (Beowulf, Battle of Maldon, etc) I really enjoy the shorter elegies like The Wanderer, The Seafarer, The Ruin, The Wife's Lament, etc. Added to that there are religious and allegorical poems like Caedmon's Hymn, the Advent Lyrics, the Dream of the Rood, and the Phoenix. There are also many poems like Andreas, Judith and Elene about various parts of biblical or christian history, often based on latin analogues. Finally there are many interesting riddles from the Exeter book, some of which are still unsolved. I haven't read many of these but plan to get to them someday. There are other less known poems too.

As for the prose you've got the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, various saints' lives, translations of Boethius, also various sermons (the Sermo Lupi ad Anglos aka the sermon of the Wolf to the English - the bishop in question was named Wulfstan). All of these are really interesting for studying medieval history, rhetoric, etc.

If you don't have time or interest in learning the language, you can still read the literature in translation, just grab an anthology (the Broadview one is good) and see what stuff appeals to you.

>>11444361
Roll

>>11462258
Thanks for the info. I think I'll check out Baker's intro and see if it's appealing.

>>11439741
Roll

>>11444361
Roll

>>11439741
roll

Does anyone have or know of a chart similar to this one >>11441389 but for Mesoamerica/pre-Columbian Americas?

>>11439741

roll

>>11462439
You're very welcome and I hope you end up finding some good reading material anon! I also recommend the Cambridge Old English Reader which has a grammar reference at the start and then lots of sample material with really heavy annotations and glosses so that once you have the basic grammar down you can go ahead and read without frequent trips to a dictionary or appendix. Pic related

>>11439741
here we go

>>11444361
another one

>>11458390
The OE Beowulf is brisk and free even compared to the most accurate translation - a skewed comparison since obviously liberties to be taken to preserve precision of meaning. Still, it makes me want to learn Old English.
>Leoht eastan com
compared to
>Light shone from the east
>Light came from the east
It's vivid and even sparsely elegant. I really like it.

>>11463629
Thanks for looking closely at that passage anon, I chose it because it's a favorite of mine. Terseness is an edge that inflected languages (like OE and German) have over ones (like our own) that depend more on word order and therefore have to insert more prepositions and particles. When you read the lines in the original they seem very sharp compared to any translation. The flipside for OE is that we don't fully understand their idioms (we don't have enough to tell) and what to them was clarity can be cloudy to us today.

To readers with a certain mind, that mix between basic English words and Germanic 4-case grammar is a source of beauty you can't get any other way.

>>11444361
ok

>>11440525
Septum Piercings are so bad, like they're on one level with tattoos for me, I just can't take a person like that seriously. Its one thing to have this shit as some sort of fad when you're 17 or so but to wear it consistently in your 20s...

>>11439741
rolling

>>11463974
How are you guys so picky? If a girls interested in me, I'm probably going to go for it, as long as she's not obese, deformed, or seriously mentally ill.

>>11463713
It's a great pic anon, it inspired a genuine interest in something I'd always overlooked.

>>11444361
roll

>>11444361
Roll

>>11439741
yarp

>>11439741
rolllalkalol

>>11464040
>septum piercing
>not seriously mentally ill

>>11439741
Roll

>>11444361
ROLLINGS

>>11439741
Get

>>11461990

That's the shitty one I made a year ago....

>>11444361
Rollin on the river

>>11464738
oh...