/lit/ - Literature

the qu'ran

stop reading along political lines

>>11453825
>good

>>11453820
>fascist
>far right
pick one

“Conquest of Bread” by Kropotkin about Hitler’s invasion of the Russian steppes, its black earth “bread” basket. You’ll love it.

>>11453820
there is none. any talented writer is on the left.

>>11453820
Celine. He inspired Kurt Vonnegut to write "Mother Night," his stuff's so fierce and potent as to be dangerous, read "Fable for Another Time," "Trifles for a Massacre," "School for Corpses," "Castle to Castle," "North," "Rigadoon," all of it. He is unsympathetic, and makes himself so, it can be difficult to separate the fact from fiction. Don't necessarily take it seriously, unless that's your bag, it's best read for amusement purposes only. The end notes featured in the trilogy elaborate on the persons and institutions mentioned throughout the novel and shed some light on the sociopolitical situation described therein.

>>11453876
Hahaha so true!! Annihilating cultures and forced equality is based!

>>11453820
12 rules for life by Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

>>11453888
you're thinking of liberalism

No ggreat writer ever has been far right. Even Borges was an individualist. If you want to read books with far right ideas you'll hace to read propaganda because fascists are too retarded to expose their polítical ideas with any subtlety.
Any way, there's a boom about a guy struggling with his political identity when the spanish fascist regime falls. Señas de Identidad by Juan Goytisolo

>>11453896
>liberalism does it for muh freedoms and wealth
>gommunism does it for the greater good and principles even though they believe the dont really exist

>>11453897
>no great fascist writers
>what is carl schmidt
>what is giovanni gentile
>what is ezra pound
>what is doestievsky

The US Constitution

>>11453919
the jewnited states of amerikike was founded on pure yidderry

>>11453914
Don't forget Rilke and D'Annunzio

>>11453850
wrong
>>11453885
>>11453914
>dostoevsky
idiot.
celine and pound are edgy anti-bourgeois trying to destroy civilisation. fascism was a good attempt.

>>11453921
obvious commie is obvious

>>11453914
Dostoievsky was far from fascism, if you think he's one you either havent read him or are retarded.
Ezra Pound was a poet, none of his ideology poured out in his ouvre, T. S. Eliot would be another example.
Gentile and Schmidt are essayists, and not that good at that, Gentile is fucking unreadable

>>11453896
Every leftist ideology is a liberal ideology. It is the inseparable basis.

>>11453931
hang yourself shlomo

>>11453937
r/iamverysmart and can ignore basic political science that has been stablished for centuries justo because the conservative media tells me so

>>11453937
>Every leftist ideology is a liberal ideology
as meaningless as saying "every rightist ideology is a liberal ideology".

>>11453948
At least THAT would be semitrue

>>11453930
You think Dostoevsky was not proto-fascist as Carlyle or Fitchte or did not influenced fascism as Nietzsche did? I don't see how fascism is an attempt at the destruction of civilization at all, more like it sees what it perceives as problems of it and remedies them. Fascism worked exactly as indended, unlike communism/Marxism. The original founders of liberalism would also be appalled at what it became (which was enevitable due to its very nature [only the culture it was founded in held back its true nature]).

>>11453954
left and right is a subjective aesthetic distinction. both statements are true in some cases and utterly false in others.

>>11453820
>fascist/far right
That's not how this works.

>>11453933
See
>>11453956
Pound literally traveled to Italy to promote fascist propaganda and was held as a POW in an open air cage until he had a mental breakdown.

>Gentile and Schmidt are essayists, and not that good at that, Gentile is fucking unreadable

Absolute brainlet, the fact you can't understand gentile is one thing, that Schmitt was a poor essayist? You've proven yourself a true pseud.

>>11453958
Fascism is usually placed on the far right on the left-right spectrum. Don't use the spectrum itself if you don't like the labelling.

>>11453956
proto-fascist meaningless term. dostoevsky was a hard line slavophile - italy's pathetic rome-fetish or germany's racial neuroses would have no appeal to him. the cultural project of fascism has nothing in common with dostoevsky. his radical diseased epileptic brain would be slated for eradication by weedy-eyed fascist pencil pushers.

i didn't say the fascists were attempting to destroy civilisation, dummy. i was being hyperbolic. i mean that men like hamsun, celine, pound welcomed fascism as the brutal harbinger of liberal democracy's death.
>fascism worked exactly as intended
defeat. cultural ruin. millions dead.

>>11453974
>proto-fascist meaningless term. dostoevsky was a hard line slavophile - italy's pathetic rome-fetish or germany's racial neuroses would have no appeal to him. the cultural project of fascism has nothing in common with dostoevsky. his radical diseased epileptic brain would be slated for eradication by weedy-eyed fascist pencil pushers.

Jesus do you not understand fascism at all? Being a slavophile would be a perfect match for Russian fascism. You realize fascism is an ideology based on nationalism, thats why German and Italian fascism had a hardon for themselves, as did Dostoevsky

>i didn't say the fascists were attempting to destroy civilisation, dummy. i was being hyperbolic.

>heh i didnt mean it but i really did


>i mean that men like hamsun, celine, pound welcomed fascism as the brutal harbinger of liberal democracy's death.

A fascist welcomes fascist ideas..damn...who woulda thought?

>defeat. cultural ruin. millions dead.

Don't be dishonest, the system in itself worked as intended. Forced destruction by outside forces does not negate the ideology any more than a liberal, communist, republican or monarchial nation being conquered negates their ideas.

HOMO thread

>>11453820
Everything written before the 19th century, and most things written before the 20th

>>11454007
nice reading comprehension idiot. i never said the fascists were "trying to destroy civilisation". stupid in the brain. perfect little cuck drone for the managerial staff to assign to neo-auschwitz to dig typhus graves.

dostoevsky was an epileptic who read banned texts in liberal literature circle... it would have been so based and redpilled for him to die in concentration camp.

pound, celine and hamsun were barely "fascists". romantic, volatile, nihilistic temperaments open to fascist cooperation and sympathy, but not party member dogmatists. they werent brainlets who unironically believe all the spook nonsense the stormtrooper peons drink for the daily 5oylent breakfast before marching to death.

>Don't be dishonest, the system in itself worked as intended. Forced destruction by outside forces does not negate the ideology any more than a liberal, communist, republican or monarchial nation being conquered negates their ideas.
forced destruction. hmm... interesting how britain and america were dominated by appeasers, and the soviets, until too much nazi aggression turned everyone against them. there was no reason - strategic, moral or otherwise - that hitler HAD to cross the line in the sand that britain and france drew with the poland treaty. no one forced his hand. it was risky opportunism that ultimately turned out bad.

the war is inherently tied to the geopolitical and cultural goals of the fascist movements.

>>11454043
WE

>>11454046
>nice reading comprehension idiot. i never said the fascists were "trying to destroy civilisation". stupid in the brain. perfect little cuck drone for the managerial staff to assign to neo-auschwitz to dig typhus graves.

literally autistic

>dostoevsky was an epileptic who read banned texts in liberal literature circle... it would have been so based and redpilled for him to die in concentration camp.

So your argument is he read books and had epilepsy therefore he could not be a fascist? Hmmmm.

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pound, celine and hamsun were barely "fascists". romantic, volatile, nihilistic temperaments open to fascist cooperation and sympathy, but not party member dogmatists. they werent brainlets who unironically believe all the spook nonsense the stormtrooper peons drink for the daily 5oylent breakfast before marching to death.

Again more ultra-autism, the fact that you are denying pound is a fascist (while bringing up others i didn't even mention) shows you know little about him other than he was a great famous poet and therefore want to keep him from your enemies.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Pound

You can literally read a wikipedia introduction and know he was a fascist.

>forced destruction. hmm... interesting how britain and america were dominated by appeasers, and the soviets, until too much nazi aggression turned everyone against them. there was no reason - strategic, moral or otherwise - that hitler HAD to cross the line in the sand that britain and france drew with the poland treaty. no one forced his hand. it was risky opportunism that ultimately turned out bad.

the war is inherently tied to the geopolitical and cultural goals of the fascist movements

Im not about to go into the reasons for Nazi aggression, but you are right that fascism is militaristic, but so is neoconservatism, The Roman Empire, Ancient Sparta, the Soviet Union, Islam etc. Those societies and movements lasted and some continue to last. Many that did fall often fell to the opposites of militarism. Militarism is not inherently flawed, in fact is is very useful in the correct circumstances.