/lit/ - Literature

>>11440074
Mircea Eliade

>>11440074
James is great but im not sure its all that related.

>>11440074
i ching

>>11440084
/thread

>>11440084
Should I start with him instead of the other authors on the chart? If yes, where to start?

>>11440074
What is Zizek's beef with Jung? Why does he hate him and by consequence also our guy Memerson?

>>11440074
Foucault

>>11440074
Guenon is way better than any of them

>>11440323
Eliade is good but is basically decaf Guenon, both are good and worth reading but it would be better to start off with 1 or 2 of the early books of Guenon before Eliade.

Campbell desu

>>11440415
Is Guenon going to make me (even more) paranoid about the modern world?

>>11440074
Can someone explain what the deal is with JBP and that painting?

It being? Writing bullshit useless fiction? Jung IMHO.

Ernst Cassirer
Georges Dumézil
Jean Gebser
Rudolf Otto
John Fiske
Hans Blumenberg
Calvert Watkins
Frithjof Schuon
Edith Hamilton
Miguel Serrano
Erich Neumann
SarvaDarsanaSamgraha
unironically Maps of Meaning
The Seed of Yggdrasill
The Enneads (peak theology)

>>11440415
Is Guenon actually good without the memes and irony?

>>11440444
He doesn't really describe it in a paranoia or anxiety-inducing way so much as he just fully elucidates and describes the reasons for why it's messed up, but its largely stuff many people intuitively understood all along for most of their lives but just never had someone explain in those terms. Also it is tempered with in-depth explanations of exactly how to fix the problem, and its just seen as a stage in a cycle which will eventually give way to the next stage; so it's not as though the entire universe is irreversibly ruined.

>>11440455
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyOAuiL_FE8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH0FiV3IXYo

>>11440415
>Eliade is good but is basically decaf Guenon
More like Eliade is an actual intellectual and more or less invented the phenomenological approach to the study of religion as well as the field of comparative religion as a whole, drawing from the paleolithic all the way to Calvin. Whereas Guenon is some random french guy reading source texts with poor context and drawing wild elaborations.

Eliade is absolutely essential whereas Guenon is entirely special interest.

>>11440578
what a kook

>>11440323
Read one eliade book and you've basically read them all. They're all the same book, just with different titles.

>>11440613
>phenomenological approach

It's telling that you think that this is a good thing. The only way to truly understand a religious tradition at it's deepest and most profound level is to understand it as the initiates of the religion themselves understand it. The second you try to classify it in anthropological or other social-science related language you are degrading it and preventing a deeper and visceral understanding of the truths involved.

Secondly, Eliade was hugely influenced by Guenon and to a lesser extent Evola. Much of his writings and ideas are just Guenonian traditionalism filtered through the anodyne and reductionist language of academia. When Guenon and Evola took him to task for flagrently taking their ideas without citing them at all he admitted that he did and basically said that he didn't cite them to protect his reputation because he was worried how it would affect his status in the academic world.

>reading source texts with poor context and drawing wild elaborations.

This is what happens when you rely on people like Eliade instead of reading the primary texts themselves. Almost all of Guenon's 'ideas' that he is noted for are found in the primary texts themselves. Every major concept in Guenon's books can be found in Adi Shankara's writings alone, not to mention the dozens of other Hindu, east-Asian and Islamic sources one can also find them in.

>>11440701
>This is what happens when you rely on people like Eliade instead of reading the primary texts themselves. Almost all of Guenon's 'ideas' that he is noted for are found in the primary texts themselves. Every major concept in Guenon's books can be found in Adi Shankara's writings alone, not to mention the dozens of other Hindu, east-Asian and Islamic sources one can also find them in.
This only means he lacks the necessary context to construct his "perennialism". And the phenomenological approach to the study of religion is precisely the approach of initiation, like how Eliade spent years inserting himself into and exploring traditional cultures.

>>11440325
its a Lacanian thing, don't go there

>>11440640
the long talk is his best talk, and unironically undeniably true (no matter what you think of the rest of his work)

Bataille>Lacan>Culianu>Eliade>Jung>Evola>Guenon

>>11440762
okay but he's still full of shit

>>11440762
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

>>11440570
Yes, he is very good but you should read him and decide for youraelf.