/lit/ - Literature

Throne of Glass.

Orphans of Chaos.

Super Sales for Super Heroes.

>>11412373
>>11412373
First for bad fantasy, litrpg and those horrible self published novels on Amazon.

sanderfag a hack

sanderson haters OUT

amberfaggy a hack

I wish to go back to the days of Bakkerposting.
It seems a paradise compared this this throne of glass meme.

>>11412443
I went back to the first book and ended up enjoying it a lot. I didn't think the plot was slow but then again plot is vastly overrated to begin with.

>>11412393
why does this picture make me want to mating press mature japanese women....

Just finished these series:
Wild Wastes
Daniel Black
Super Sales

I need more.
(no ELBC pls)

>>11412388
>Super Sales for Super Heroes.
But that is actually good...

>>11411370
1. I was cringing at the other poster
2. Now I'm cringing at you
3. I loathe Malazan
Congratulations, you're dumb.

>>11412562
Micheal Earle Scott books
Other than the silly lion man series

>>11412654
This guy cannot write a good sex scene to save his life. If you want him for smut, I wouldnt recommend it.

>>11412654
Thanks!

I'm going on a litrpg reading spree and you can't stop me.
I have 15 different litrpgs series (amazon published) i will be reading over the next month. Will post the ones that make the cut.

>>11412706
Godspeed and good luck young man!
There is nothing like the combination of bad taste and stubbornness.

>>11412555
you're a lonely, autistic faggot

Am currently reading the second book in the "Expanse" series (Caliban'sWar) by James Corey. Low calorie easy to read and easy to forget space opera, with a somewhat supernatural horror/alien twist and lots of political and personal intrigues. if you like that Pandora's Star by James F Hamilton is a bit better IMHO.

>>11412555
I have no idea.

Is this any better than the absolute mess of a tv show?

>>11412754
christ get this smut out of her

>>11412754
blue board.

>>11412914
>smut out of her
book about purifying slutfus into handholding familywomen when?

>>11412725
>traps in comics
Jesus. Traps were a thing so long ago. We are not safe anywhere.

>>11412373
>is this the end of sffg?
Calm down. It's Freedums Day in Klapistani. People probably too busy getting more fat to read books / post on 4chins.

>>11412907
I've read the first couple of books. If you like hard-boiled, cyberpunk-ish sci-fi with a touch of first contact go for it.
Certainly beats the first four episodes of the TV show.

>>11413059
Unfortunately when it comes to girly boys, I don;t think we were ever safe. They are forever at the edges of society, waiting to strike at common decency with their feminine penises.

>>11412974
>book about purifying slutfurs

ftfy

honestly I'm surprised that with the upsurge in brorotica there haven't been many/any human male/female anthro ones

>>11413120
there are but theyre shit

unreadable garbage

>>11407354
>I guarantee you there are more women who wear bikini armor in public right now then there are people fucking corpses.

A few years ago they caught a guy fugging a freshly buried corpse in my country. The girl was a lesbian and didn't want to give him no nooky... she said over her dead body... guess he had the last laugh..

Also necrophiliacs mostly work as morticians that prepare the dead. It's easy for them to do their deeds then clean up afterwards. You don't know the sick shit that goes on in this world.

>>11413197
You underestimate how closely they are watched. If they are necros or not they aren't they aren't doing it at work.

>>11413120
try heartstone saga. i found it strangely endearing.

>>11412733
I'm also reading it, though i picked up where the series left off cause i'm a pleb.
Just finished Cibola Burn.

Downloads: https://b-ok.xyz/s/?q=the+stars+my+destination

>"Mages are divided into Light and Dark..."
>protagonist was trained by Dark mage, so Lights don't trust him
>is affiliated with Light anyway
>Light "Council" is bureaucratic, extremely political, and basically outright evil
>Light Council only exists to make the protagonist's life worse
Guess which series. Hint: it's not Dresden Files, although that does fit that same mold exactly.

>>11413503
Waldo Rabbit.
reading book 3 soon.
>tfw no succubus waifu

Are there any fantasy books where magic still remains mystical while technically having rules behind it?

>>11413503
is it a chink novel? Warlock of the Magus World fits this.

>>11413546
xianxia stories

Anyone read Charles Stross' Laundry Files?

>>11413527
i think alice got the short end of the stick in book 3. the only really funny part about her was getting used by the queen for the lesbian fetish. the back and forth banter between waldo and melissa was much better. though id wish theyd finally include her on the journey rather than split up again

>>11413582
I have. What do you want to know?

>>11413638
Should have just made the ogre female to start with at this point desu.

Any recent stuff come out? When are we getting another Bakker?

>>11413684
i think its much funnier that he is male and wants to be female. i mean technically he gets to be a female through illusions. i expect a lot of fun shit in the fourth book.

>>11413638
> though id wish theyd finally include her on the journey rather than split up again
i totally agree. i imagine alice and melissa constantly bickering and sniping at each other and alice and waldo both get mad at her for not letting them get any alone time or shouting bestiality at waldo for doing a succubus.

>>11413280
How much anthro stuff in it? covers just look like the usual succubus/catgirl stuff.

>>11413807
uh theres a cowgirl and a catgirl in the first books eventually a butterfly girl shows up. its all variations of monster girls though theres bee girls that show up eventually, some amazons and a valkyrie. honestly its just an endearing story. the concept is about empathy being a force for good. the plot in a nutshell is friendship really. though mc slowly mans up from being a whimpy looser. also tons of fetish bait.

Which is the worse /sffg/ related book that you guys ever read? Both funny bad and bad bad are valid.

>>11413878
>>11412388

>>11413896
Which kind of bad they are?

I finally finished Assassin's Fate after having it sitting there waiting for me for like a year. I don't know how to feel about that as the ultimate conclusion to Fitz' story. It's very bittersweet and I guess fitting given the ending of the first trilogy, but I still feel unfulfilled.

>>11412907
The show wasn't that bad you pussy

>>11413821
>honestly its just an endearing story. the concept is about empathy being a force for good. the plot in a nutshell is friendship really.

See now that sounds more interesting than just plain brorotica.

>>11413878
Warp Speed by Travis S. Taylor. I've complained about this one before, it's basically about a author-self insert Mary Sue who invents a warp drive and his astronaut girlfriend. Super cringe and poorly written.

>>11414077
>Warp Speed by Travis S. Taylor. I've complained about this one before, it's basically about a author-self insert Mary Sue who invents a warp drive and his astronaut girlfriend. Super cringe and poorly written.
Holy shit, wikipedia have a quote from him throwing a fit because people called the protagonist a Mary Sue.

>>11413878
Everything by David Eddings.

>>11414175
Whats wrong with his shit?
You could do worse for entry level YA fantasy.

I am now attempting to attract lightning to myself, to further temper my body

Wish me luck

>>11414175
>>11414186
Eddings isn't quality but I'll always like the Belgariad. I'm probably going to reread it this winter.

>>11414186
Sub-fanfiction level writing. Every character, even ones in totally unrelated books, has the exact same personality like they're all part of the same weird hivemind. I read his stuff in high school when I was systematically reading every fantasy book the school library had and even then I knew it was trash. It's below Scholastic YA stuff. It's below video game/D&D tie-in books.

>>11414191
Temper your body with a bullet

>>11414240
So explain to me how the dumb farmboy and the stuck up princess have exactly the same personality please.

>>11414017
>ultimate conclusion

There’s several more books, friend

Only a few more chapters and this will all be over.

>>11414284
First book? The second features a portal from another author's series

>>11414345
I dropped it instantly when I realized this felix is the same felix as in wild waste
And someone else was saying that its also related to the Otherlands series? like omg don't do this author

>>11414345
>>11414355
Wait, Wild Wastes and Super Sales are from the same guy?

>>11414355
>>11414366
They arent the same Felix.

Its all part of a Computer simulation run by self aware AI's. Other worlds are other servers, where they recycle the human consciousness. Every series after the runner series is set in its own server.

>>11414366
yea
same guy, one name for smut books, one name for non-smut

>>11414355
>related to the Otherlands series
what's that? and how are they related?
>>11414379
>spoiler
what book tells you that?

>>11414410
If you read Otherworld, it sets it out, and introduces you. Second Supers book hints at it, his other other book/series gives bigger hints and third wild wastes book spells it all out for you.

>>11414422
>>11414410

Otherlife, not otherland.

And the other other book is Fostering Faust.

>>11414422
Oh there's a third book now? sweet, time to read.

>>11414276
I think you're confused.

Only one may live....

>Amazon litrpg cosmere

what is this world coming to

In the last thread some anon pointed out that all female protagonists in sffg books followed the exact same arc since 1980. What is that arc?

I want to know because I'm trying to write a female protagonist but I want her to actually be good.

>>11414517
I'm guessing

>I'm feeble and rely on others
>Over the course of the story I learn to rely on others less
>Now I'm strong and don't need anyone

How the fuck did Gene Wolfe become popular in Japan?

I know three Nips, and they've all read BotNS.

>>11414517
>I want to know because I'm trying to write a female protagonist but I want her to actually be good.

Make her fucking ugly as dogshit.

>>11414517
abused by their fathers
bullied for being ugly
slutting around
falling for a beta male
beta male fights with "mean" ex
etc etc

>>11414528
>Story about a bland faggot wandering around with women falling into his lap for whatever reason and beating up any male who opposes him

Sounds like my harem anime.

>>11414530
>start reading a story
>the protag is described as a hideous kid
>everyone thinks she's a boy but she's actually a girl
>turns out that she's actually beautiful but was cursed with something on her face and made her lose her memory and also immortal elf king is in love with her and has been looking for her everywhere but couldn't recognise her until she found the way to get the curse off her face by accident

>>11414521
>>11414530
>>11414535
>>11414562
>Not a single female in a Sanderson book falls under these

Sandman wins again.

Finished the game of thrones. Looking forward to the second book. A lot of differences that I can remember from the tv series but I also can't remember the tv series that well.

>>11414567
Brandon pls

>Felix has been turning people into sausage and feeding them to his slaves with them fully accepting and even laughing about it for several chapters
>He kills a guy freezing the assets of the company just because he wants to fuck his slaves
>"KILLING ISN'T THE ANSWER"

>>11414562
This is a real book, isn't it?

>>11414580
It's a trilogy and yes that's why I posted it.

>>11414517
>born on the lower end of society
>has to get her hands dirty to survive (assassin theif w/e)
>fights against an oppressive internal authority figure (king queen council)
>meets a boy, shows him how tough and strong and independent she is
>cant help but fall for her

it all fucks up from there

>>11414567
>>11414627
Oh dear.

Just finished The Goblin Emperor. I had high hopes for it, but it was probably the weakest book I'd read all year. Shout out to the bad guy for accidentally killing the emperor by putting the real bomb on his airship instead of the fake bomb.

WHAT DO YOU SEE?

>>11414627
That's a significant percentage of male characters too though.

is there anything thats super long and has autistic amoral powerlevel obsessed main characters? Preferably that I can get for free. I've been mainly reading chinkshit lately and havnt found anything to replace warlock of the magic world/age of adepts now that I've finished them. Magic is much better than cultivating imo but I'll take what I get.

someone blackpill me on adare

i have a friend who adores her

>>11414698
Prince of Nothing has an autistic ultra powerful main character.

>>11414710
I've read all of bakkers books and enjoyed them

I'm done with Super Sales. It was entertaining shit at first then it just turned into bad shit.

>>11414736

>>11414688
I generally hate all thief/assassin/ranger protags/
Theyre all so formulaic and overdone.

>>11414701
She makes bad decisions, betrays both her brothers, gets one killed and the other permanently disfigured. Shes a self absorbed know it all cunt who never faces any consequences to herself for all the things she fucks up. Someone else always pays the price for her. And at the end of all three books shes still the same know it all cunt that she was at the start.

>>11414567
Where did his Sonichu medalion go?

>>11414775
If you were going to write a thief/ranger/assassin character, how would you do it differently? I agree, it's a totally overdone archetype in dire need of shaking up.

>>11414798
For starters, make them get their ass handed to them if theyre ever caught out in a fight. More focus on hiding/tracking/sneaking than speed.

But beyond that? its all so tired and worn out I wouldn't even know where to start, because its all been done.

>>11414821
do you think real life is an rpg or something
nothing stops a "rogue" from knowing how to use a sword in a fight

>>11414842
Thats not my point. Im telling you its fucking BORING when it happens. That mr sneakysneak rogue is just as good with a sword as the people who have done nothing but sword train their entire lives.

Having a disadvantage like that might actually provide some tension to these lazy archetypes.

>>11414701
Man i hate adare. If I saw your friend i would punch him.

>>11414858
Fuck off with your tension.

>>11414858
just add magic

ready player one: ADVANCED level reading for enlisted crayon eaters

>>11414899
It says primary level.

>>11414899
I'm very disappointed there isn't a Marine Corps approved discussion guide for Ready Player One.

should i start reading heralds of valdemar, and if so where do I start?

>>11415277
page 1 probably

>>11415281
>starting books at page 1
>not page i

>>11415281
okay but

>female author

>>11415277
I've only read some of By The Sword but I understand that Mercedes Lackey is pretty much a light read with girl power. So if you're good with that then sure why not.

>watch review about book
>"IT IS LIKE GAME OF THRONES!!!"
Yikes. Why can't people stop comparing books and just review the book itself?

>>11415381
its just like ready player 1 !!

>>11415381
Normies need something to compare to. How else are they supposed to know if they like something or not?

>>11415381
it's the "it's the Dark Souls of" of literature

>>11413647
One of the reviews describes it as a mix between Lovecraft and Dilbert. That doesn't sound like a good combination. Are they decent?

>webnovel author write some pretty good stuff
>he posted a chapter of how he doesnt care about his readers that this is only his hobby
>ragequits because of mean comments
>deletes all of his stuff
it's a patreon only for now
i would beat the fuck out of this guy if i ever meet him

>>11413878
Inheritance (Eragon) or Twilight #1, #2 or #4.

>>11415446
Yea seen that a couple times lol
Some ppl can't handle banter

>>11414530
GRRM already did that.

>>11415452
this is like the 4th time he did this
only on different platforms

>>11413878
Off the top of my head I can only think of Metal Boxes. I had to give it up about a 3rd of the way through. Just bad, bad. I was optimistic going in, hoping to read something light-hearted about kids in space, but... fucking hell. I shouldn't want to curb-stomp the MC after only a few chapters.

>>11415446
Who's this? What the novel?

>>11415446
Whenever people say 'I don't care about so and so' usually means they are projecting or venting and actually care a lot.

>durr fuck you haters idgaf lol
>next video/post has comments and likes disabled

>>11415467
baisiwa
legend of the perfect emperor
book of universe or something
number one under heaven
1 cooking xianxia
and 1 litrpg i forgot the name

>>11415479
i know
the "i dont care" chapter is a full length chapter

Is it just me or is Book of the New Sun a challenging read? He keeps embarking on these philosophical excursions the likes of which I've never seen in a fantasy novel.

>>11413878
Time enough for love. It was just bad on all accounts. Especially the mc mostly cringed true his quotes, it just put his inseferable character over the top.

>>11415521
It's challenging because it's missing stuff you'd usually expect to find in a novel, like plot and anything resembling a structure.

I've been in closed door cultivation for the last 10 years
Soon the whole world shall know my name
Also my parents are making me get a job ~_~

>>11414698
Wheel of time?

>>11414667
When's the next book coming out?

>>11415553
Good luck on stocking shelves anon!

>>11415623
hes coming out not going in

Robots wizards spaceships and dragons are all fucking gay

>>11415655
I was commenting on him trying to get a job.
I have no idea what your comment means.

>>11415662
You could always move on to something else.

>>11415664
Closed door cultivation is training behind closed doors, he's misrepresenting your characterization of his low skill set.

>>11415553
>tfw you wasted your NEET years

>>11415480
>>11415446
Those aren't authors, just translators.

I'll raise you one though.
>pick up new series
>think it has 1700 translated chapters
>turns out it's only 380+

The suffering.

>>11415697
this is an original on qi and rrl

>>11415722
You have my condolences then, literature is always a risk in the west.

The fuck is "cultivation"?

>>11415736
pondering and understanding the great dao, anon

>>11415747
sell me on it. will it give me the ability to take back control of my life?

>>11415773
of course anon, it's about going against the heavens, if you succeed even gods and devils cant't stop you

>>11415777
I've not really had much problems with gods or devils though.

>>11415781
they're controlling your life whether you know it or not, fight back anon

>>11415787
next your going to tell me the jews aren't to blame for bad things happening to the world.
i'm growing increasingly skeptical of your ways of cultivation, anon.

>>11415804
Cultivation is the only way to resist their jew-jitsu.

>>11415804
the jews are devils in human form
they also cultivate and at some point they can materialize into human form

I'm sure a song of ice and fire is little loved here, but are there any fans here who could direct me to another series as captivating?

Otherwise my favorite fantasy is conan

>>11415972
>Conan
Which story is your favourite?

>>11415973
At the moment it's a novel by someone else where he meets up with some bohemian types and kills a fag wizard who makes clay people. I believe it was simply called conan the conqueror

Anyone got a hoard of cool/generic/sexy 80s fantasy covers? I love the older art.
anyone ever read the indigo series? i'm on book 8 and not sure I want to finish it

>>11416022
I'm about to start, I need some trashy pulp era fiction for research purposes so I can start my web novel.

>>11416046
name?

>>11415973
We all know Beyond the Black River is peak Conan and peak pulp and peak fantasy all at the same timd.

>>11415992
I never read any of the Conan stuff outside of Howard's originals. Are they worth reading if you enjoyed the original stories?

>>11416063
Don't have one yet.

>>11416081
make sure to advertise it here and fill your reader list with a bunch of insufferable intellectuals, anon.

>>11416086
I will, thankfully after years of 4chan use I'm comfortable with death threats and accusations of faggotry so maintaining an urge to write shouldn't be all that hard.

Rereading them right now, even better than last time.

>>11416104
I found this book a lot better actually.

>>11416086
>insufferable intellectuals
that and the reddit crowd. reddit is so mainstream nowadays they can steer sales unfortunately. but then again they are fucking retards and just gobble up whatever is marketed to them.

>read reverend insanity because someone shilled it here

>eh its alright

>bai ning bing gets turned into a girl

10/10 now

>>11416126
They still couldn't prevent Ready Player One from under-performing.

>>11416097
I ain't threatening death, merely hinting you either swallow 200 pills of Xanax or go to outerlit

>>11416104
MAGNA

>>11416137
That was me.

Enjoy your filler arcs.

Let me rate the last few modern fantasy series I've read so someone can tell me what to read next

>Peter Brett - Demon Cycle
Solid, enjoyable, original, too many arabs 8/10
>John Gywnne - TFATF
Average boy discovers he is special boy, tries to be good boy, inter dimensional angels and demons 5/10
>Miles Cameron - The Traitor Son
Needed more of the wild and beasts, less politics, plot stopped making sense, author lost track of characters names changed his mind a lot went from 8/10 to 4/10
>Django Wexler - The Shadow Campaigns
Felt like he lost his drive after the first two books, got bored of the mary sue lesbian crossdresser 6/10
>Brian McCellan - Powder Mage
Suffered from power creep, but it was an enjoyable ride 7/10

Red Rising or Grey Sister?

>>11416137
>>bai ning bing gets turned into a girl
You could just hit up some hentai or tranny porno of your choice.

>>11413878
Probably Battlefield Earth. It's about 700 pages too long, for one, and the fact that Hubbard doesn't know anything about anything except pretending to be a badass and writing pulp novels is painfully obvious the entire time.

"Funny bad" would probably be The Iron Dream by Norman Spinrad, which had an amusing concept but was tedious and boring as hell; just read the Wikipedia article. Aside from being just badly written, Spinrad doesn't have nearly as much fun with the concept as he could have.

>>11414698
The Legend of the Ten Elemental Masters

>>11416156
no like literally turns into a girl

>>11415804
need to write a nazi xianxia about cultivating ascension to the Man Against Time in opposition to the (((heavens)))

>>11416186
I hope he's okay. I haven't seen anything from him since his "how to degrease a pizza" video(s).

>>11416214
Oh that's too bad. So it's like futa or something?

>>11416255
no, he's a man but his body is transformed into a girl, no dick, just a male in a girls body

Wasn't that impressed. Forever War was much better.

>>11416263
>no, he's a man but his body is transformed into a girl, no dick, just a male in a girls body
Oh well that sounds kind of boring.

>>11416263
that's literally my hentais though?

>>11416287
This, if the guy doesn't end up with a set of both genitals it is pretty low t stuff.

>>11416075
Abosolutely. It can be a bit jarring when some of them use more modern speech, but I've never read a bad conan book. I can post a couple of my favorites later (I have disgusting memory).

>>11416299
I think the technical terms are "boypussy" and "feminine penis". I would post an illustration but I don't want to derail the thread.

https://exhentai.org/s/30eb064eb6/1246713-89

>>11416046
It's honestly not trashy at all. It can be slightly cheesy, and repetitive, because each book is Indigo going after one of the demons, and the story structures are the same.
>enter new region
>accidental meeting with man
>man falls in love
>indigo slowly falls in love
>but on eternal quest, cant settle down
>kills demon and leaves for the next region
but the regions are vivid and pretty unique, and the writing is surprisingly good, especially for the era it was released in.

The first four covers are stylistic and nice, then the 80s hits like a truck and suddenly face and tits.

>>11416321
i thought what i described was known as futa (both genetalia not a feminized / masculine opposite genitalia) but i'm not a scholar on the subject sadly.

>>11416341
>Beyond Japan, the term is used to describe a commonly pornographic genre of eroge, comics, and anime which includes characters that show both primary sexual characteristics.[1] In today's language it refers almost exclusively to characters who have an overall feminine body, and have male genitalia (although sometimes may also have both male and female genitalia).

A boypussy is a colloquial phrase for a male anus. A feminine penis is a joke phrase for a small penis, or the smooth, sometimes unusable penis some hermaphrodites have.

There are no scholars on the subject, only closet gays squabbling over what phrase makes them the most comfortable.

>>11416341
Oh no.
The classification of various traps, trannies, shemales, futas and femboys (to name a few) is as varied and complex as the classification of Legions of Hell.
You would thought it's just a bunch of pervs and deranged in woman's clothing but you would be so wrong.

Can someone please explain to me why people thought Annihilation was "unfilmable"? The only thing I'd imagine being a problem is depicting [token abstract entity that the protagonist cannot comprehend the full appearance of].

>>11416104
CUM

>>11416139
So what you're telling me is that there is justice and, perhaps, even a god.

>>11416437
And they did that with excellence.

>>11416468
Uh, I wouldn't go that far. We still have half a dozen movies each year in which freaks in spandex beat each other making more than the rest of Hollywood output combined.

>>11416437
Probably because it was all the MC's journal entries as she slowly lost her mind and started to become one with Area X. I agree, hardly "unfilmable" but maybe not as easy as some other novels.

>>11416517
>in which freaks in spandex beat each other
why are you even in sffg if you have a problem with that?

>>11416437
because hollywood is mostly void of talent and the only thing that gets produced are 3 act shit shows so when something is slightly deviant in structure it's "unfilmable"

>>11416714
not him but superheroes are pretty different from fantasy and sci-fi, a superhero story is a genre unto itself

>>11416714
Not him but one nerd interest doesn't >imply all others. I like sff but hate horror and have little interest in capeshit.

>>11416046
Is it going to be a litrpg?

Has anyone here read Viriconium? I've been thinking about buying it, but I'd prefer to hear some opinions on it in general.

Any fantasy novels with a slut MC?
Has to be as degenerate as Heinlein's Friday.
Here's a videoclip of a 15 year old Alizee for inspiration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDwKPGUIVME

>>11416714
Because SFF is entirely different from comic books?

>>11416902
Twelve Kings of shakamamakakmkaka

>>11416902
any romance novel written by a women.
search for reverse harem. theres thousands of these around. every week theres like 10 new books.

>>11413368
This book was so fun. Big thanks to people who voted for it, I would've missed out

>>11416902
One of the protagonists in The Guns Above by Robyn Bennis is a manwhore to older women.

>>11417087
I want a little girl protag obviously.

>>11416933
>Because SFF is entirely different from comic books?
>>11416517
>in which freaks in spandex beat each other
>freaks
Now imagine conan running around in his loincloth beating up wizards and lizard people.....

>>11417087
>Bennis
kek

>>11415599
When I want to read spanking erotica I will

>>11416714
>why are you in sffg if you dislike this one minor thing that is vaguely related to sf&f
Are you stupid or something?

>>11416154
red rising

>>11416902
all warren thomas's books

>>11417509
>freaks beating on each other is minor to sff
Do you even read? Every sff book has a freak beating on something else.

>>11416282
I agree but i thought it was still decent

Just finished Shadow of the Torturer.
It took me six months to finish it because of my low iq. And I feel like I missed out on a lot of the world building, as I was reading through it to get more 'plot'. (small brain)
Should I reread it or move on to the next book?

Also about to start reading the Wizard Knight. How does it compare?

>>11417526
This book had a great and intriguing premise. A male warrior gets trapped in a female body through the guile of an evil mage who's been doing it for centuries. If the author could pull off the male to female transformation and show struggle and change, in which the main character grows and learns as a result, this would be a series worth reading.

Unfortunately, that's not exactly what happens.

The author relies entirely on the male gender and gratuitous sexual violence to show the struggle of the main character. I found it appalling and had to put down the book.

If I wanted that out of my fantasy adventure novels I would go to the corner store and buy those magazines wrapped in brown paper bags.

Stay away from this series unless you want to read soft-core porn.

>>11416282
my dad's favorite book and I hated it as a kid lel didn't stop me from reccing it in the last thread

>>11417526
I got half-way through this book and have up. It was beyond stupid. I highly doubt if a guy swapped bodies with a woman against his will, he would so readily take to having sex with other guys. Plus, I find it hard to believe he wouldn't find his friend and try to make him believe the stories. Obviously, he still had his memories because he remembered people he used to come in contact with. Ugh! Why?!?

>>11417569
>>11417567
t. feminists

>>11416714
>why are you even in sffg if you have a problem with that?
Because they are shit. Unless you are one of those people who think Captain America is a spy thriller (a convo that I actually had).
I read Wh40K novels in my free time (and being continually amazed on just how much ink has been spilled to describe ornate power armors) so I also read and enjoy trash, I just don't pretend it's any good.

Unrelated but pic related, it's a good book and an even better movie.


>>11417475
False equivalence.
And please don't defended anything superhero related. Especially comics, which set the bar for bad writing. After over a decade of, as I already mentioned, half a dozen 2 hour commercials that cost about 100+ millions of dollars to make, superhero comics are being read by less people than before. That's how horribly bad they are.

Why the fuck are science fiction authors so obsessed with, of all things, monarchy?

>>11417633
Who exactly is obsessed with monarchy?
I think the last time monarchy was mentioned in anything I read was in Karl Schroeder's Sun of Suns and that was some time ago.

>>11417633
>monarchy
its the easiest setting to write. you have a ruler and all obey and follow. everyone can relate due to circumstances and its easier to immerse yourself in the story if its already familiar.

>>11417633
Just give some thought about how democracy would work if only one nation on Earth had all the arable soil and another contained all the building materials, this would happen in Space all the fucking time on a planetary scale.

for such a huge meme aesthetic genre, are there any steampunk books actually worth a read? I never see any love for them in this general or board. apparently gibson and sterling practically started it even though I never hear a peep out of anyone about the difference engine even though their cyberpunk stuff is beloved to this day

>>11417591
>who think Captain America is a spy thriller
i take it you've not seen winter soldier sweetums

>>11417570
>>11417535

I'd still rec it as "one of the three mil SF books you should read" (with ST and Forever War) but it's definitely inferior to both. It's weird that I always see it rec'd as being about "the human side of war" or some shit when the only thing it does better than the other two books are badass action scenes of Felix owning aliens.

>>11413878
Invisible Dragon by far

>>11417633
It's the easiest government to write. There's one dude and he's in charge of everything because he was born that way. Sometimes this gets called "fascists tendencies among SF writers" or some shit but it's really just a combination of laziness and lack of interest in government.

There's not really any strong difference between the typical bland SF monarchy and e.g. Clarke's technocratic ruling councils.

There are science fiction writers that engage with the benefits of monarchy or feudalism in a more or less serious way, like Poul Anderson's The High Crusade or Dune. But they're the exception.

>>11417699
Steampunk got turned into a meme and run into the fucking ground. Now it's a dead meme so nobody talks about it.

One reason I hate steampunk is because there's like no "punk" to it. It's all "Lord Suffedshirt and Lady de Ponce must stop the evil Irish revolutionaries and trade unionists from crashing Lord Tesla's new dirigible into the Queen's banquet dinner."

>>11417744
just want to know what i should read, I don't want to come off as bashing steampunk here. the top hat with gear shit is just low hanging fruit to pick on like cyberpunk and leather jackets and katanas.

>>11417738
>Sometimes this gets called "fascists tendencies among SF writers" or some shit
They say this about literally every genre fiction author, all fantasy authors are hardcore reactionaries, spy novel authors are all libertarians, etc.

>>11417759
Steampunk like Cyberpunk exist for the sole purpose of theory crafting video game aesthetics.

>>11417699
I disliked The Difference Engine. It was just a faux-victorian/whatever setting with comp-macguffin. Totally uninteresting.

>>11413878
mistborne

>>11417764
>pick on like cyberpunk and leather jackets and katanas
It was so much fun after Cyberpunk 2077 trailer hit.

>>11417769
And who is "they", dearie?

>>11417769
What would be the basedboys of literature?

>>11417792
Don't make me write a New Yorker article about you sweetie.

>>11412373
I'm pretty tired of it. I used to contribute quite a bit, but I honestly don't think I've been here in a month. I don't have an opinion on fantasy and it makes up the bulk of the thread. A /sf/ general again would be more to my taste, but there's just nothing here for me. I'm getting more enjoyment out of reddit sci-fi communities. They at least make good recs and link to resources.

>>11417828
/sffg/ is likely on its way out. It is indeed 90% fantasy and absolute horseshit fetish garbage at that

>>11417833
When hasn't it been?

>>11417828
i'm just a sf reader and I agree, can't relate to half these posts. the other half is just book of new sun recs..

>>11417861
Welcome to hell

>>11417833
>>11417861
Don't get me wrong, the commenters at reddit are still naive, hopeless, dickless + an ethnic pejorative of your choosing, but I like that it gives me rabbit holes to go down and .epub/.pdf resources. Their opinions are the fucking worst, though, and they can't understand the slightest subtle sarcasm. As long as I can rape them for resources I'll keep my accounts.

But yeah, where's the harm in trying a break-up again? The worst that would happen is the thread would take a week or two to reach bump limit (I have no doubt the /fant/ thread would still only last two days).


Anyway, you goys read anything worth a shit lately? I didn't mind pic related despite it being packed with le current year shit. I'll pick up the sequel in September.

>>11417874
>But yeah, where's the harm in trying a break-up again?
There just isn't enough interest and I'd have to keep two threads open for no reason.

>>11417874
what's the point in splitting up? does anyone prevent you from talking about sf in here?

>>11417882
It would pile up though. You'd get a post about _____ from a week before, then an anon from a week ago might have something worthy to add. Slow doesn't mean bad.

>>11417885
signal to noise is becoming unbearable

>>11417892
*from a week later

>>11417874
Honestly any place where you can't call people faggots on account of their taste really isn't worth the effort. I have far more luck with forums that focus on sci-fi.
As for what I read lately I would recommend Wool (or Silo) series by Hugh Howley.
It's an interesting spin on post-apocalyptic societies confined to underground habitats.

Is Winds of Winter coming out or not

>>11417828
You should lament the state of sci-fi not /sffg/

>>11417913
>Wool (or Silo) series by Hugh Howley
added and upboated, looks interdasting

>It is not a true reflection of capitalism - only idealism through the lens of her life and experiences.
Yeah, you can't interact with those people on any level. I'm still pensive about forums just because they all degrade into a meta discussion about members. Too much hero-worship and groupthink.

>>11417928
I can't actually argue with that, but there is a wealth to draw on from the past. When's the last time we talked about Egan and fucked-in-the-head he must be?

>>11417928
Right? Scifi is all just militaristic shite nowadays. Shitloads of potential futures to explore and all modern authors seem interested in is seeing some shitty analogues to modern nations blow up a couple of each others' ships.

>>11417939
*... how fucked in the head...

God I'm having a bad word-forgetty day. It always happen when I bitch.

>>11417892
>signal to noise is becoming unbearable
It's never been particularly "good". How long have you even been keeping up?

>>11417913
>place where you can't call people faggots on account of their taste

Ends up as an obnoxious place where faggots are too busy pretending to like books in order to look superior to everyone else. Same shit on the end of the same stick.

>>11417929
Holy god, I even posted the wrong quote from another thread. I think i honest to god got heat stroke yesterday.

>It is not a true reflection of capitalism - only idealism through the lens of her life and experiences.

was supposeed to be

>Honestly any place where you can't call people faggots on account of their taste really isn't worth the effort

>>11417955
Only a year on and off. It has become way more fantasy oriented. I used to ignore /lit/ entirely.

>>11417699
I'm generally a fan of William Gibson. I think Bruce Sterling has some great short stories and non-fic. I bought a first American edition of The Difference Engine and I was very disappointed. This is the popular opinion about it.

I haven't read a lot in the subgenre but I really liked The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson which is primarily future-Victorian.

>>11417917
Maybe after he dies or the tv series ends.

>>11417968
>Only a year on and off. It has become way more fantasy oriented. I used to ignore /lit/ entirely.
Stuff comes in waves. I read every deity cursed post killmepleasethereisnoescape.
Really the fault lies in us and no one else. I can't even be bothered to post my last read book and say "Filling yet bland. The avian flavoring given the magic school of which the MC was acolyte pleased me momentarily, but ultimately failed to distinguish itself from the previous couple hundred fantasy books I've read."
We are the only ones who can save sffg

>>11418019
>We are the only ones who can save sffg
Sounds like work.

>>11415421
I am sorry anon, I completely forgot about answering you.

>One of the reviews describes it as a mix between Lovecraft and Dilbert.
That's not exactly true. There is this humorous thread about the insanity of working for a government agency dealing with insanity causing entities but it's a small part of the book.
Honestly I loved the first book in the Laundry series. The thing is that the book is very Lovecraftian but from a modern, military-industrial complex kind of view. We are not talking about a bunch of half-mad academics trying to stop the end of the world. We are talking about government agencies spending billions trying to weaponize pretty much every horror Lovercraft came up. In that regard, the novel is unique. It has a lot of sci-fi, a lot of Lovecraft, nazi occult groups, government employed necromancers, etc.
You could try A Colder War for size. It's a novelette, written by Stross, in which both sides of the Cold War start trying to weaponize cosmic horrors.
You can read it here - http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar.htm..

I'll leave you with this little snippet:
"Your family could still be alive, you know.''

He looks up. "They could?'' Andrea? Jason? "Alive?''

The void laughs again, unfriendly: "There is life eternal within the eater of souls. Nobody is ever forgotten or allowed to rest in peace. They populate the simulation spaces of its mind, exploring all the possible alternative endings to their life. There is a fate worse than death, you know.''"

>>11418061
that sounds cringy as fuck, lovecraft and nazis?

>>11418033
That's why /sffg/ is perpetually doomed :3

>>11418092
No, no, no.
Lovecraft and everyone. The cosmic horrors are no more the domain of a couple of academics at some dinky old college.

>>11417994
stuff like the diamond age and the stars my destination got me interested into future-victorian stuff, love both books. was hoping there was good steampunk recs

>>11418105
Okay, I'll start but it's on a bad foot.

In Authority (Van der Meer), when Control is allowed to view the tape, what exactly is he seeing? I had trouble with the description. It sounded as though they started gibberish talking without being aware, then it's implied the person filming began flying, like maybe a bird-creature, right?

I told ya, it was a shitty topic about a shitty book.

Anyone read the Blackstar novel by Klayton/Celldweller/Josh Viola? The man made a concept album, wrote a novel to go along with the concept album, then wrote a "score" album for the novel. I remember liking a few of the songs on the concept album when it came out when I was a teenager, but I also had pretty bad taste back then. Might be interesting to revisit in the book, unless the writing is just awful.

>>11418503
Oh, actually the novel isn't by the musical artist. So he wrote an album, had someone else write a novel for the album, then wrote another album for that novel. Still kinda interesting.

which is your favorite chinese xianxia saying

I like the one where its like "If I say I'm second, then noone would say they are first"

>>11418863
>[character]'s eyes glowed

>>11418873
Don't forget pitting blood/eyes going red.

>>11418881
>anon began vomiting blood and fainted in embarrassment at his forgetfulness

>>11418887
You know what is missing from all these stories, the sheer amount of bruising that should be happening

You get punched in the chest, knocked 50 meters, and break a buncha ribs, your whole body should be black/blue

>>11418197
I've been researching the Goodreads shelf for Steampunk and 2bh I'm not finding a lot I think I'll like. I think romance and horror are annoying so that eliminates some. Most of the books have not great ratings, although some of them improve with the next books in the series.

So far I've added to my list:
Retribution Falls by Chris Wooding
Aeronaut's Windlass by Jim Butcher
Mortal Engines by Reeves, YA, also recommended by Anons here
Boneshaker by Cherie Priest
Lady of Devices by Shelley Adina, YA

>>11418863
[Character] unleashed his killing intent.

Where do you guys consider Jack Vance in your pantheon of fantasy writers? Top 10?

>>11419280
Certainly one of my faves. Re-reading Dying Earth right now 'cause all the trogs recently made me sad.

>>11419138
>Aeronaut's Windlass

You can probably skip it.

>>11419138
>YA, also recommended by Anons here
An anon here recommended me fucking Green
Ignore anons

I read Luck in the Head in an anthology and it was difficult for my peabrain to make sense of what was going on. Would Viriconium be too much for me?

does this guy write good novels?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEszlI8-W79IsU8LSAiRbDg
his videos are pretty interesting

>>11419138
>Retribution Falls by Chris Wooding
DON'T DO IT ANON

>>11419330
Green was nice. Stop bitching it was something different.

>>11419664
Uh huh sweetiepocket :)

>>11419330
Anon genocide when?

>>11419324
>dresden files imitator
Isn't DF just shitty Hellblazer which itself is mellowed down edgy BPRD?

>>11419785
Everything's a shitty version of something else.

What was his fucking problem?

>>11419800
4chan is a shitty version of...

>>11419836
2ch, mate.

Oy faggots, I need recs
Give me some shit that's sci-fi, horror, potentially cosmic horror
I just finished reading Admiral (thanks by the way for the rec, whoever that was) and I need more to continue after I finish The Stars my Destination

>>11419840
Blindopraxia you ugly cocksucker

>>11419825
No pussy blues

>>11412725
>I was literally raped!

>>11419839
Like you've been there.

>>11419847
Blindsight and Echopraxia you fucking illiterate mong?

>>11419324
>>11419656
Well like I said, none of them have great ratings although Carol did like Retribution Falls.

>>11419858
You’ve never been in a “bring something back from 2ch” thread?

>>11419825
The girl he liked went with a black dude

>>11419860
Yeah you AIDS-ridden double faggot, they're good even for a lobotomized anus like you.

>>11417079
Nice to hear! I've not started yet but I'm going to once I've finished what I'm currently reading.

>>11419825
Niggers, Jews, Irishmen, Hillbillies, Mulattoes and Fish-people.

>>11419850
>I read her Eliot I read her Yeats

>>11420049
Gentle Grunts by Mary?

>>11420004
based

Terminal World
Is it really the worst Reynolds book? The cover looks pretty cool.

How many PoVs are too many?

>>11420246
2

>>11420246
I just read savage detectives and can say non are too many if done correctly.

FUCK LOVE STORY SUB-PLOTS

>>11420449
Get a load of this faggot

>>11420246
Any more than are strictly needed to tell the story you want to tell.

>>11420246
More than one, all dialogue should be in first person, all units of measurements should be used in the MC's dick length.