/lit/ - Literature

>>11409878
all women are objectified regardless

>getting a degree in the humanities in the hopes of landing a career having done nothing other than go to college

youre never gonna make it

You're problem is that you chose a major that does not have a definite career path while simultaneously not having any specific career ambitions.

I did International Relations myself, didn't much feel doing STEM for a living. At the same time, I'm not going to act like I was surprised by the general apathy of society to my credentials. I got it together and have been doing a couple Americorps positions. I don't want to go into education personally, so I've been angling myself into more management positions with the eventual goal of getting into community organizing. I didn't figure this out right away, it's been an evolving process.

You chose your degree because you didn't want to be simply a cog of society, now you gotta live with it and prove that you're the worthy individual you think you are.

>>11409902
So you're grinding, basically.

Yeah, credentialism has ballooned as of late. In many cases jobs don't really require the level of education listed in the vacancy description (masters and up); you sort of wonder who they're trying to keep out. Even just thirty years ago, any college educated person (especially a lib arts leaning person) had a lot of leeway with what they could do, or were expected to be able to adapt to a much wider variety of positions than are afforded to them now.

>>11409878
they love being objectified, you only ever hear them start to complain about this once their hotness begins to drop

>>11409949
>you sort of wonder who they're trying to keep out
People who didn't put in effort to get a masters degree?
Also humanities degrees are for rich people who don't need to work, what job are you even trying to get with it? Museum curator? Librarian?

shes got pudgy little toes

>>11409878
>caring about roasties' job prospect
lmao

>>11409975
Those are perfectly decent feet

>>11409878
Ben’s going to be heartbroken when she gets on the casting couch.

>>11409902
parasite
>>11409949
you’re both parasites
>>11410102
it is a joke man

>>11409968
Many entry and mid-level administrative positions do not require graduate work.

>>11409878
,day dall.b.e yr d.p

>>11409878
what happened to her?

>>11410216
she quit academia to be a model again

i was in a philosophy phd program and recently took a leave of absence. it was a good decision. i work as a freelance writer now and am significantly happier than when i was in the phd. i may go back but it will take a lot for me to justify that decision since leaving. i wasn't so much disillusioned from philosophy as i was with the profession of philosopher.

My grass is greener opinion: I just graduated from CS with a job lined up, but everything feels so _meaningless_. I'm pushing bits around at

I obviously don't have a ton of experience with the humanities, but it seems (from knowing a bunch of people in the humanities) that being in a field like sociology or geography or urban planning is conducive to much more meaningful work.

Yep, no jobs in humanities

But look on the bright side anon, they all mummified, is that what you want for yourself

>TFW Majored in Anthropology, with minor in Latin and Classical Mythology
>Ihavemadeahugemistake.swf
>Switched to a real career and managed to pay off all my debt
>Married and buying a house soon
>DO NOT STUDY HUMANITIES

>>11410654
>Anthropology, with minor in Latin and Classical Mythology
Why the fuck did you think that was a good idea? That sounds like the meme of meme degrees.

>>11410659
>Why the fuck did you think that was a good idea?
I studied what I wanted to study, I was going to be the worlds faggiest Archaeologist.

>>11409878
People that go study humanities and then expect a good life are fucking retarded. Understand, the humanities are nothing but a pyramid scheme that will work out for maybe 0,5% of the people studying it, if that. You're paying money only to keep those professors employed, and that's it. Why do you think contemporary literature is such a complete joke?
Look at the people posting on this board, these brainlets that read one book a month and post their garbage writing thinking it's the fault of the "industry" and they'll be acknowledged postmortem. None of these people are worth anything. Why do you think humanities attracts so many useless idiots? It's the same as talent shows - they're terrible at everything they do but they think that secretly, they must have an artistic side. It's not that they're incompetent fucks that can't do anything, oh, no, they're just too artistic and deep for the world to understand them.
The only thing you're doing by paying to study humanities is ensuring your professor has a job. That's it. Unless you're doing it at a prestigious university where only the name matters and not your specialization, you're worse off than a guy that says he worked three years as a garbageman.
Humanities are a joke and a scam.
Nor do you need to go study them in order to write, if you're so inclined. If anything, it'll probably make you a better writer.

>>11410682
So very THIS. It's ok to want meaningful work, but pay the fucking bills in the meantime. Learn to LIVE in the world before you try to PORTRAY it artistically. Form follows function. Self-pity is not the new Bitcoin currency.

>>11410682
This, unfortunately. Soon enough a meme degree will not just put you into heaps of debt for no payoff, but it will actively become a LIABILITY to employment. If I was an employer, why would I trust the judgement of someone who valued mommy and daddy's money so little he decided to burn it all in the pursuit of a degree in English? I'd rather hire an illegal immigrant who knows the value of a dollar than these pretentious fucks who post on /lit/

>>11410682
This. Nothing but truth in this post

>>11409878
army

>>11410654
>>11410659
>tfw I would love to do this

>>11410576
What is your dissertation on anon?

https://lonerwolf.com/living-in-debt/

I studied philosophy because I had zero fatherly advice and was told to just "do what you like sweetie :)". I enjoyed the course but I've since learned that I learn way better when I follow my own curiosity, rather than trudging to a 9am lecture by someone who shows up 15 minutes later and reads out a sparknotes-tier slideshow for 30 minutes with gay groupwork at the end. It is a very emasculating experience to study humanities in university. Some people I know went into journalism (dying industry), some went into teaching (normalfag industry), and others are just working minimum-wage tier jobs. My first job after graduating was literally flipping burgers, and that was one of two part-time jobs I had. I ended up earning a low wage at an office job which I have clung to ever since.

>>11410576
What do you freelance write?
Was the postgraduate study helpful in doing your freelance work? I'm thinking of doing something similar when I complete my undergrad.

I worked in academia for about a year, and ended up disappointed in many ways
There were people that I worked with that seemed genuinely happy with it, though

>>11409902
>You chose your degree because you didn't want to be simply a cog of society, now you gotta live with it and prove that you're the worthy individual you think you are.
based

>>11410640
What's stopping you from bridging your CS education to humanities? Shit like sociology, geography and urban planning absolutely need programmers as much as they need actual graduates in those fields. The same follows for practically every industry.

I have heaps of personal projects that interface with my non-CS related interests, such as finance and literature. Esp. with a grasp of machine learning you can do some really impressive things.

To me, this is far more "meaningful" and empowering than a field like those you mentioned where you hardly learn any vocational skills, and usually just end up pen-pushing.

>>11411042
>Shit like sociology, geography and urban planning absolutely need programmers as much as they need actual graduates in those fields. The same follows for practically every industry.

As a rule these areas just hire generic programmers and either expect them to already know about geography or sociology (lol!). You would never ever see a job post asking for someone with both

There are not subjects like chemical biology, you can teach all necessary concepts for work done in them within a day. Fields you'd be far more worthwhile specializing in for cross expertize opportunities

And if you're not doing it for money you may as well be studying a humanities subject that isn't fucking dumb like Literature and Philosophy

I dropped out of philosophy and just got on neetbux. Feels good to be an early adopter of the post-work society.

wait, people who major in humanities unironically think that they're trying to "transcend" above the capitalist cogs? how do they fail to realize that they are the most oversocialized hyperconsumers for the STEMlords to sell their products to.

>>11411457
>oversocialized
back to your cell ted

>>11409892
>>11409902
>>11410650
>>11410682
wait, i'm sorry; excuse me; what? i literally just typed in (with my 10 fingers, i guess minus the little ones we call pinkies) ENGLISH DEGREE jobs into Google search and I clicked on the first link that popped up (which led me to the Indeed website) and there are literally; and i mean this quite sincerely and honestly--THOUSANDS of fucking jobs throughout the country that will give you a job for an english degree; proof? do you need proof? are you incapable of looking this up yourself? here, here's your proof; digital copywriter; editorial assistant; english as foreign language teacher; lexicographer; magazine and newspaper journalist; publishing copy-editor, proofreader; web content manager; writer; advertising account executive; librarian; arts administrator; film director; information officer; marketing executive; PPC specialist; records manager; teacher; social media manager; right, any other proof? do we need more careers, more jobs, more professions, more metiers, more occupations, more vocations to consider and list? sure, i'll do so; communications officer in fort meade, md; corporate communications director in pittsfield, ma; digital content specialist in chicago, il; so no, no, no; i really don't understand where you people are getting this information from that there are no jobs for people who have english or humanities degrees; i'm sorry, i just want to see where this information is coming from when clearly it is conflicting and is in contrariety with reality, or what is easily searchable on a contemporary search database (probably created or at least managed by someone with an english degree)

please, i'm waiting. let's see

>>11411457
As someone with a bachelor's in humanities I don't have the money be an oversocialized hyperconsumer. I'm very shrewd in my everyday spending, I don't go out to eat often, and my everyday hobbies do not require me to spend money (or engage with ads).

Meanwhile my friends who graduated STEM have their mortgages and gaming rigs and hiking gear...

>>11409949
This also happens because the number of majors has ballooned, giving people more a narrower understanding of some topics.

>>11411084
"Chemical biology" is a field and it's called biochemistry

>>11410570
I'm pretty sure she can make it as a model or actress. She has the right face and body for that.

>>11410570
lmao depressing

fucking women

>>11411802
Hi, I'm a famous Hollywood producer and read your post. On the basis of your language skills, I'd like to hire you to become the film director of the next Marvel movie. Your offered starting salary is 100 million dollars. Please note that it was your English studies that earned you this offer, and that it is very common for those with English degrees to instantly become journalists or film directors or ad executives or "writers," which is indeed an actual career that's in no way competitive or oversaturated at all. If you know of anybody else who studied English, ANYBODY at all, please let me know ASAP, because I'm desperately searching for somebody to manage Guy Fieri's instagram account.

>>11409878
>humanities
Lol try learning a skill that is marketable you dumb faggot. McDonald’s is always hiring

>>11412037
hi, nice to meet you; how are you? good, good; i love the irony you gave out with the one phrase: "no way competitive or oversaturated at all;" that's to say that, well, let's see, STEM fields are also not competitive or oversaturated, right? right, because up there in silicon valley in universities like stanford and mit there aren't that many kids studying computer science right now and going to work for facebook and google, right? because they haven't saturated the computer market, the programming market, the science market, the coding market, the inventing market, no, no, excuse me, those are all empty and vacant and prospectively waiting for prospective employees to prospect their credentials and it's completely and utterly devoid of people, nope, no, no saturation at all; prithee, tell me, i want to know where you get this idea that the science fields like engineering and computer science aren't oversaturated with emotionless and robotic knaves at you who sit all day typing some letters and fancy and de rigueur and comme il faut numbers into a computer screen as if that's the entelechy and potential of life; prithee, tell me, that isn't oversaturated right now, right? with the advent of technology computer science is not oversaturated with silicon valley nest-babies who have been groomed and prepped all their lives for stanford and caltech; prithee, tell me, i want to know what illicit narcotics you're on; what diuretics you're taking; what idyllic paradisiacal land you're in; that tells you journalists are oversaturated and excessively filled but computer scientists are begging for more people, more knaves, more jackanapes, more curs, more stupid stupids like you; fucking tell me

i have a literature degree and an engineering degree. i have a comfortable job and can spend my free time doing what i love, without the anxiety of my passion being tied to my livelihood.

blame society all you want but it’s your fault you’re unemployable.

>>11412053
O, you only could wish you could write, type, write, talk, text, chat, say, speak, recite, and do like me; you only wish you possessed the pain, knowledge, genetics, tutoring, coddling, training, suffering, life experiences, tutelage, scholarship necessary to write like me; as if all it takes to succeed in life is your monkey business typing code into a Java or Oracle or Samsung or Dell programming code whatever and popping out "hello" or making some bobeep robot walk around a 4x4 square area 16 sq ft and make him go corner to corner and intersect it at a line tangential to the diametric arc to which it subtends (in layman's terms); you only wish you could spell, speak, talk like me, without having to find synonyms or antonyms or parts of speech or correlative preterite onomatopoeic prepositional phrases on Google search sites; as if the entelechy and purpose of life was to stare at a screen hours at a time putting in jumbles and amalgamations of numbers, words, weird symbols on a screen and getting paid in numbers, words, and weird symbols on a paycheck so you can go home and relax and beer it up and watch tv and live the contemporary comfortable boring blase stupid middle-class life with no stress, worries, anything; because life is perfect without worries, right? because aspirants of literature write the best works when their lives are perfect; that cervantes would have written don quijote de la mancha if he had retained his left hand and been a millionaire (in standard peso and florin and even jackpenny fees) and been rich; that joyce would've written ulysses still if he had decided to become a financial magnate or mayor with mayoral scarlet robes and a deacon's hat and chryselephantine papal zouave with; yes, so please, tell me i need to work at mcdonald's (i did already, in the summer of 2016 when i still had a girlfriend who loved me and invited me over to her house for fellatio sessions gratis) so don't tell me i need to work at mcd's ever again (i did it for a half-year, followed by whataburger);

i paid my way; put but money in thy purse

>>11411802
people just want to graduate college after getting a BA jerking off about the beat poets or whatever and immediately receive the nobel prize for literature

>>11411822
you really know nothing about modeling. Assuming you are talking about shit like high fashion.

she is pretty. I'll give her that. But not high fashion model material. Maybe sears/jc penny catalog material.

>>11411457

The virgin oversocialized stem student vs the chad recluse philosophy student

>>11412107
correction: i want to do this too; except i want to masturbate my sticky sticky wicky kissy fluids to plump pflump melonous osculation kisses to the rump rump rumpity rumps of shakespeare, keats, and joyce; mellow yellow smellow, do you follow? and yes, i want to be exulted into the nobel prize committee with hemingway, faulkner, and yeats; i'm sorry, is that too much to ask for? i was formed in the messy sexual fluids of a penis's liquid aqueous milky semen consummating and shaking hands with the eggs in the milking-machine ovaries of a lady; may not i, this form that churned and sluiced and slushed about in some dark mucous membrane of womb and gaia-mother tomb not just maybe aspire for my +-70 years of existence (subtracting 1/3 of live viz. the assumption we sleep it away) toward a nobel prize where i may be remembered and revered forever and ever until invariably and impredictably the earth vanishes and is banished and that i may until then have my name in the stars and constellations and nebulas and intergalactic drifts and humid nightblue sky?

>>11412055
Computer science is not even remotely oversaturated right now. STEM is oversaturated, especially the SEM parts, but the T is isn't. CS is still a rapidly growing field that's only expected to grow further, with more job openings than there are graduates, unlike engineering or mathematics or life sciences or retail

anyways, I'll have the caramel frappuccino with extra whip ;). It's super cool how you were able to take my order in iambic pentameter. When you called me a "stupid stupid" I for the first time understood how your studies might not have led to the most lucrative career options, but they still "paid off" in the sense that they allowed you to develop really impressive creative skills that you definitely have.

>>11409878
>with the help of her current BF
poor lad's gonna be broken once she dumps him

>>11412130

>high fashion models
>attractive

pick one

>>11412146
and i'll tell you this; i paid my way; i paid my way; i paid my way; and believe me, i have a whole host of other names i could attribute to your person; do you copy? are we clear? i have no use speaking to some blase robotic machine such as you; i don't have time for you; i would rather, and listen to me dearly; i would rather immerse myself in the life of a stephen dedalus; wandering, vagrant, isolated, vicissitudes of travel and homelessness; or working menial jobs at starbucks making your extra whip frappucinos and smiling at you through gritted, grimacing teeth; and then, at some point, having my work be realized or upheld, a la in the aeroplane o'er the sea or even a a portrait of the artist as a young man (and believe me, i'm better than the two of those creators combined, with the baritone-tenor voice range and creative writing schools to boot (thanks, shakespeare!)) so believe me; just watch; keep on the look-out; enjoy those coffee beverages and decoctions; burn your lips a few times and complain about it as if it's the most tragic event of your life up to that point; scathe your lips; burn your tongue; burn it; you'll see; you'll see

>>11412171
You are a really bad writer. Tell me, how much did you pay to become this useless and untalented?

>>11409878
Is she from Vancouver

>>11412179
i took his post to be a joke what with the constant semicolons

>>11412055
imagine living your entire life in resentment of stemfags just because you picked a shitty major lmao

>>11412179
i'm not giving you specifics; i'm not giving you numbers; i know your promised land consists of binary templates and frolicking digits; capering codes and prancing binomials; meandering quadratic-dells and ambling pythagorean's theorem-champaigns; from what i can tell, you're a really bad human; and an even worse coder; tell me, where do you work; the local bestbuy, right? the local wal-mart at the programming area; i'll remember to pass by when i get my loaves of bread; to see what you have to offer; prithee

>>11410570
Does being a model really take so much time?

>>11412199
Lmaooooooo the English major bests the CS major

>>11412221
and that's invariably how all things go; the only way he produces ideas is through formulations and equations; lifeless and emotionless creatures, green-eyed monsters of nothingness and truisms and tautologies; obviating any need for expression; striking down any need for emotion; stripped of it all, stripped of the love, the sex, the music, the aqua vitae; no peregrinations of cerebral feet; no perambulations of forlorn love; useless; punches numbers; punches things; lives in a matrix fantasyland; get him off the stage, shakespeare

I'm majoring in philosophy and I expect nothing but poverty and depression as my future. I don't understand why other humanities students think society should see them as something worth a shit and spend so much energy at being angry because of it. What the hell did you expect? Stop being so childish and go do your homework. Get on pills if necessary to be at your full capacity. You need to be the best if you want to get anything from these kind of majors, same happens with most artfags.

>>11410682
>You're paying money only to keep those professors employed, and that's it. Why do you think contemporary literature is such a complete joke?
I don't see the relationship between those two.

>>11412299
exactly, my motherfucker; i can fuck with you; vibe with you; companion with you; work with you; confidante with you; keep you at my bosom; my embonpoint; that's the stuff; you just have to work hard and be at your best; jog in place for 30 minutes a day to big bang theory 2-hour long youtube clips of best of leonard and penny (seasons 1-7, 8 and the rest coming soon according to uploader) as it reminds you of your own personal life in relationships (you being the literate genius going after unintelligent virago-harlots who will sex you up)

just live up to it; the english/philosophy major is the most fulfilling, painful, and beautiful major

>>11412199
>paying for a university education
>that teaches you to randomly attach gerunds to mathematical terms you clearly don't understand
>and misuse semicolons
People like you are the actual reason an English degree is worthless. Several generations ago you needed an IQ around 110 just to attend university, so if a student decided to put his time and effort towards the study of literature, it really meant something. When English departments became dumping grounds for pretentious underachievers, mentally ill fuck-ups in love with their mental illness, and women who didn't know what to study, English credentials lost their value.

>>11409878

You should be pursuing mastery in an art or craft. Consumption means nothing. Personal creative ownership is the key to freedom from the moloch machine. Start your project and finish it. Make it your purpose. Your soul compels you.

>>11412311
>jog in place for 30 minutes a day to big bang theory 2-hour long youtube clips of best of leonard and penny (seasons 1-7, 8 and the rest coming soon according to uploader) as it reminds you of your own personal life in relationships (you being the literate genius going after unintelligent virago-harlots who will sex you up)
I don't understand why are you saying this.

>>11412331
>dude just be a pseudo-crazy-wannabe-artsy-finger-painter-free-verse-poet-ironic-neo-liberal-weed-smoker-boomer lmao
>FELIX PASS THE BONG

>>11412327
Americans are weird. Is it really that easy to get into university that you don't need a 110 IQ? In my country, only the top 10% of students attend a university. I'd say the average IQ at my grad school is easily in the high 120s.

>>11412348
So when your brain tripped onto my post it immediately vomited up a string of nonsense that not only obfuscates the content of my post, but it obfuscates your own conception of it.

No, fingerpainting does not equate to mastery in an art. Neither does drug use equate to... anything I wrote.

>>11412104
based

>>11412433
>>11412221
Stop replying to yourself, retard

The only reason I'm in university is because I want to be. The moment I get my master's degree I'm going back to working at my dad's company.

>>11412053
>marketability is the only thing that matters

imagine being this much of a bug person

>>11410570
whats her name again?

>>11412354
What do you expect from a country in which higher education is largely private? College is a business. It's much harder to have a thriving business if you set the entry bar too high.

>>11412371
That poster is literally a former mental patient who had a mental breakdown after doing acid and catching an std or some shit. He shitposts the same nonsense in Deleuze threads on a regular basis.

Do you have any idea for possible crafts? Nothing inspiring comes to mind, I'm ashamed to admit.

>>11412763
lit is basically just shills and the mentally ill at this point

If you don't get a job when you finish your humanities at any level, bachelors to doctorate, you are either:

a) a stupid asshole like 3/5s of people who do humanities degrees, not really thinking about what you're doing at college and just cruising along and having fun

b) Simply it for the love of your subject, which is great if you are financially independent, but inadvisable if you are a twentysomething who doesn't want to live with their parents for years or live with 7 other twentysomethings working three service industry jobs.

what was that trip again, ffs

>>11409878
>gibing jobs to somebody
You don't deserve a job because you can cite a book. Nobody owes you a job and this attitude won't get you one.

>>11411818
>"Chemical biology" is a field and it's called biochemistry

Oh wow, cheers for that Einstein

>>11409878
How did this end up being the funniest thread I've read all month

>>11412104
>>11412055
good god you sound like an insufferable faggot

>>11413445
thank you, thank you; cheers to you, man; cheers to you; thou art the man; you really are; tell me, don't you have some coding to implement or some software to upgrade or some programs to debug? don't you have to go on your little java machine with your little bachelor's degree in computer science from a state school with your loans that the paterfamilias and matron took out for you and look at some bugs? really, tell me, what makes you better than me? i paid my way; i've worked at mcdonald's and taken your mcdouble orders, your cheeseburgers, your chicken nuggets, your big macs with extra sauce; i've worked at whataburger and taken your bacon cheeseburgers, your double hamburgers add cheese no tomatoes no onions, your buffalo ranch chicken strip sandwhich, and i've seen you in the corner there with your friends chortling and giggling and stealing my numbers and asking me at 11:37 pm if i have the numbers 69, 21, etc.; and i've worked at sherwin williams, and made you your emerald water-based paints, your oil-based promar 200, your oil-based proclassic for a nice smooth enamel finish in either satin or semi-gloss; i've heard you speak broken english to me and i've seen you show me a picture on your phone of an old sticker that's torn up with paint all over it and had to decipher the original formula on it because you can't speak a word of my native language to me; and i've seen you in woman's frilly lace skirt in the summer with sandals and painted toenails stamping your foot impatiently and clicking some pen you found in impatience as i hastily make your paint for you that you ordered maybe 5 minutes ago; and now you're coming here to me and degrading me for even considering an english degree when i've done your dirty work, your low-paying jobs, your degrading, debasing, base, lowly, bastard jobs for a couple of years; and you're going to tell me i can't cite books; no, no, i can write, i can read, i can read shakespeare; i have emotions, i cry, i fear, i laugh, i desire, i desiderate, i long, i long, i yearn, for touch, smell, olfactory, tactile, the axillary redolent odors of woman, big with my child

so call me an insufferable faggot. please, it's just another thing that fuels me toward greatnes

>>11412327
how am i misusing semicolons? they're meant not for full-stops; they can be periods, or commas, or semi-colons, or even full-on colons; and no, sir, or madam, those are not gerunds; gerunds are verbs acting as nouns; and i'm sorry, those words that you're referring to, those aren't, um, nouns; those are adjectives, making them adjectival participles; i see computer science doesn't teach you that, nor does it teach you, apparently, techniques and grammar that i learned as early as 8th grade english; so tell me, what are thine credentials? thine statistics? thine transcripts? i want to see what thou hast to offer; truly, and most prettily, i do; i want to see what's behind that exterior you put up, that outer layer, that facade, that fortress, that parapet; i want to see what's inside of thou; i want to pluck from you what's inside of you

>>11412332
i said it because i wanted to; because some upward force, some surging wave, some high-reared wave, some tempest, some storm, some cliff that beetles o'er its base, tempted me toward the flood of posting that; can i not post it? does this have something to do with being an english major? are computer scientists allowed to be weird and i can't? let's get back to me on, text me or call me or whatever thou must do

>>11412197
i'm not in resentment, actually; i'm perfectly fine; i like being able to read, write, feel emotion, feel happiness, and desire, and libidinal urges, and sadness, and tears, and crying, and work out my lachrymose ducts every now and again, and look at women with lovely eyes; i'm not in resentment; i can sing, and dance, and write, and speak, and read shakespeare and joyce; i really can, and it's a joy and wonder to me; i don't have to be resentful, or bitter, or vengeful, or vindictive; why, i just look at you and thank the stars and heavens i don't have to resign my fate to punching in numbers all day; cheers

>>11412935
really? am i not entitled to the sweat of my brow? am i not entitled to my labor, my scythe furrowing and plowing the land, tilling the fields; am i not allowed to drown on an autumn night in the drowsing scent of poppies? am i not allowed to have my hair soft-lifted by the winnow wind? am i not allowed to watch the last oozings of autumn hour by hour? well, thanks for informing me; i thought i could work whatever job i wanted to; i thought that, if i get an english degree, i could work my way and network around even at a state school and find a job; and then, that job, sufficiently sufficient, would pay for an apartment (with roommates if need be) where i can do open mics in the city, all the streetlights casting lutulent and luminescent wonder onto the streets, all nostalgic and frilly-like; i'd love that, wouldn't you?

>>11412331
yes, absolutely; i wholeheartedly concur; i agree; i stand in accord; i ally with you; i stand with you; you, sir, are the man; the actual man; i appreciate this

write something; do something; stick with it; and that's life

>>11413605

Dude, no one wants to read that.

>>11413545
this pic is you retard lmao

>>11410719
yes; thou shouldst see how much they know of english; not one scent of it; not a pecking of it; not a slim tidbit of it; call me pretentious; crucify me with bumptious, affected, effete, elite, useless, of little or no value; redundant, crude, idiotic; but never doubt i love, yes?

doubt thou the major I want
doubt that I'll ever reach above
doubt not i'm a dilettante
but never doubt i love

anon, my blessings upon thee; safe travels

>>11413636
You're the biggest faggot I've seen all month. You're still green, all those years in school were wasted. They taught you nothing.

did onty put her ig on private because of us, lads?

>>11413676
and you're the green-eyed monster; abominable beast of an idiot

>>11413650
>>11413653
they're going to read it; they're going to; THEY'RE FUCKING GOING TO BECAUSE SHE UNFRIENDED ME ON FACEBOOK ON MARCH 18 OF THIS YEAR AFTER WE BROKE UP AND I'M STILL, I'M STILL, I'M STILL (SHOUT IT TO THE HEAVENS SO THE GODS ON OLYMPUS CAN HEAR, SHOUT IT UNTIL THE SEAS CRACK AND THE CLOUDS BURST AND THERE ARE HURRICANOES AND BARRICADOES OF MIST AND STORMY TEMPEST AND BATTERED LANDS ON OUR HEADS) AND STILL SHE HASN'T TALKED TO ME, TALKED TO ME, TALKED TO ME, O TALKED TO ME.

>>11412104
>you only wish you posessed the coddling necessary to write like me

>>11412130
high-fashion models are tall, skinny, man-faced walking mannequins

>>11412457
>unironically bragging about this

>>11413851
why, yes, golden-faced smiling and laughing expression; i was assisted by my mother; my matriarch, my materfamilias; is there a problem? yes, she coddled me; read to me; gave me ice cream; bought me milkshakes for winning elementary school spelling bees; is there a problem? if you have a problem, post in the comments below

BASED

>>11412311
>the english/philosophy major is the most fulfilling, painful, and beautiful major

STEM Is actually the greatest because you're paying for objective truth. You could've learned everything english/philosophy related from texts and the internet. The same cannot be said for the engineering department at least, as you are also paying for the learning of modern instrumentation, used for the sciences.

>>11414335
Fuck off STEMfag bugman.
>>>/sci/ is this way bucko.

>>11414335
hey hobgoblin; greetings bugbear; hello bugman; how are you doing, bete noire; hi, anathema;

listen and be a dear; i know you aren't so predisposed and inclined; i don't remember where modern instrumentation was able to describe life and its qualities; its emotions, experiences, subjectivity; i forget where that's at; please, imp, direct me to the instrument that tells me how to analyze ulysses or how to write it; how to compute hamlet and how to equate it; how to formulate don quixote and how to actuate it; thank you

>>11414367
you are not actually mentally ill. You are just a retard who confuses a superficial understanding of mental illness with creativity

>model

I don't think she could even make it in low-budget porn

>>11414441
i wasn't feigning or acting mentally ill; i'm not sure where this assumption comes from; is everything okay? i didn't mean to poke any kind of nerve on your end; any capillary, orifice, hole, artery, vein; hope everything's fine; i wasn't pretending or acting to be mentally ill; i'm using this kind of style to distinguish myself from the pack, from the hobblehoys, the hoi molloi, the regulars, the mediocrities such as yourself; tell me, how does that feel? i've never felt that mediocrity; i guess i was blessed with divine fortitude; it feels wonderful; and though i may die, yet i died a joyce, a shakespeare; how are you?

>>11412529
I think ontologocool

Do you think that her current BF who graduated in art school will find a job in Holywood?

>>11409878
As if you don't simply live off your families wealth while studying literature to become a better rounded person. What a peasant.

oh god i remember you

your poetry is terrible

>>11414911
>I am here for the job interview

how do you respond?

>>11412457
pretty cool bro
what's your major?

>>11409878
i'm studying english and french literature in college (english is not my first language). being a poorfag and seeing my mom, who's a lit teacher, barely wanting to read books in her free time because that's already her job are both driving me away from it. teaching (in most cases) would just be parroting oversimplified concepts of what i learned to middle schoolers over and over again and translating would be even worse. i'm trying to switch to business and management, i'll just read as a hobby

>STEMfags, Artfags, and Humanitiesfags completely ignoring the fact that finding a job in this current job market it's hell for any discipline to find work
Honestly just get into trades if you're going to lord what you study over one another. Jesus Christ.

>>11415760

Graduating this month with an MA in English philology; I can't wait to finish studies and start reading for pleasure. Reading "Great Expectations" as a non-native speaker of English gave me PTSD.

I hate how everything has been made into a trade school and you cannot learn anything just for the sake of knowledge. Thank you, capitalism. Commodifying knowledge. Wow.

>>11415798
>Reading "Great Expectations" as a non-native speaker of English gave me PTSD.
how? it's just fiction.

>>11415789
stemfags are not struggling to find work, in my country at least. it's the only safe way to make money after college along with business/finance/management/economics

>>11415832
>plumbers have to pay taxes so you can write a paper on medieval cutlery that no one will cite or read

>>11416192
your parents had to suffer you through childhood

>>11416492
>the government is my daddy because my actual daddy didn’t love me enough

I never understand these threads. For many industries (like management/strategy consulting, publishing, marketing/advertising etc etc) it doesn't actually matter what you studied/are studying. Getting a job after university is primarily about networking, doing extra-curricular activities that enhance employability (debating/public speaking/computer coding), being involved in organisations and so on. So if you want a job do cringe shit like attend career fairs, make a good impression on recruiters and maintain a relationship with them.

The reason that there are lit majors working on Wall Street and STEM majors working at McDonalds is because employment is not *purely* based on your education. The only reason STEM majors are better employed is because the skills are scarce. This doesn't mean, however, that not having a STEM degree will leave you unemployed.

Or just do law

Fuck you people, all jobs are repetative and boring after a while but studying humanities was one of the most valuable things I ever did for my soul. IDGAF i'm not an engineer with a company Volvo or some other gay shit.

>>11416543
>actually wanting to be a part of the rat race
get a load of this pleb

Working so hard to earn money (esp. without passion of career choice) when the tax brackets are so skewed against high earners is dumb and at this point you're practically paying you're neighbour to shoot heroin for free.
Earn a comfortable living doing what you love and don't let any asshole or pretty girl to tell you otherwise.

>>11414467
I like your style. Do you have anything published? Give me something

>>11416504
keep contradicting yourself mate

I FUCK THAT BITCH AND THEN I STAND OVER

>>11410895
Yeah, I studied economics in college and always secretly regretted not allowing myself to explore my true interests (philosophy and political theory) more. Then around my senior year I just loaded up on electives, had a great time, and realized that actually majoring in this stuff would have been a shitshow due to the subjective grading and heterogeneity in professor quality.

To all the anons still in college -- major in some normie pre-professional shit that will impress employers, and just make room in your schedule for your actual intellectual interests. Also, if you read books on your own and stop by professors' office hours with real questions about their work, they'll actually like you more than the clowns who incessantly bother them about test-prep and how to get from a B- to an A.

>>11415555
>Walk me through a DCF

>>11410654
How old are you anon?

>>11416543
this literally only applies to kids from elite schools or kids with a ton of connections

You will NOT get a management consulting job if you study English at a state school unless you have the mother of all connections

Same with wall street, although IB is a comical career path

>>11416662
sure, i'll try an excerpt:

(clad in Sherwin-Williams habit consisting of azure polyester polo 100% acrylic with little perforations or holes that sort of let the air flow through like except on heated days when the perspiration from the wearer wets the shirt, and also attired in beige khakis dirtied with white paint from sample quarts, and wearing brown dress shoes with paint stains from various time periods on them)
SEMICOLON MAN (with triumphant passion, with declaration): just listen to me; please; this is all i have, all i want; computer scientists, you make it all a commodity; thou art the rat race, epitomized; thou art the man, the man, the machines that mess away all day; thou art the usurers of our day, the lawyers, the bankers, the loaners, the untrustworthy, dissolute beasts of the forest; and for what? what is gold? plate sin with gold, thou shalt not strike it with a battering ram; but give it rags, and a pygmy's stick, a virgin's breath, could penetrate; think of timon, of timon athens, yea; thou art the flatterers, the cozeners; you'll beg and work and spin for gold, and dance for it like a trimalchio; then, when thou hast it, thou wilt leave the man who helped thou; will desert him, leave him to the maws of kites; detest him, and banish him to the forests, the wilderness, to make a beast and a scorn of him; gold, money, the evils of the world; 'twill make black white, good bad, poor rich, rich poor, sanity madness; wilt thou ever learn that there is more to life than a ducat?

Exeunt.

>>11416543
Law will get you a job but not necessarily a good job. There's a lot of competition.

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>>11409878
Where are you getting these pics?