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Dubliners Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:03:15 2018 No.11395258 [Reply] [Original]

These stories make me genuinely angry at Joyce for having so much talent. How can any one man paint so grand a scene with so little canvas?The economy and the power of his exposition is infuriatingly good, I hate the son of a bitch with all my heart. Every page offers insights into the life and character of humanity in an otherwise unremarkable time and place made vivid and timeless. I hate him, I hate him, I hate him. I actually have an elaborate picture of this Irish nowhere and its inhabits in my mind, a place I would never visit made flesh, 5 or 6 pages at a time. What are your favorite Dubliner stories why and why?

I think mine is Araby, it captures actual sentiments I've felt and resonates beautifully as this tale of maturation and disillusion. I had known the very same ostentation and readiness in love, and found it hollow. It really spoke to me on how romance is by definition a departure from the real.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:05:30 2018 No.11395264 the most well regarded story in dubliners is the dead but the one most likely to be assigned to first year fags is araby u utter pleb

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:14:56 2018 No.11395287 >>11395258 yo I haven't read Dubliners (or anything else) yet but I got a similar feeling reading Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, just an overwhelming sensation of THIS NIGGA IS A GODDAMN GENIUS, mainly during the last chapter

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:17:31 2018 No.11395292 >>11395258 explain what's so great about it please

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:44:56 2018 No.11395378 >>11395292 the prose is fantastic, mostly

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:48:23 2018 No.11395389 >>11395378 >muh prose the last refuge of dumbshits, p.s. the prose sucks ass

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Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:51:47 2018 No.11395404
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>>11395258
I finished the first story called the sisters, and it wasn't even about the fucking sisters. It was about some kid or guy who visited a dying man and chilled with him. Anyway it wasn't that good compared to the tolstoy story i'm reading about soldiers. Does dubliners get better?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:53:59 2018 No.11395410 >>11395404 even pushkin has better stories that one about the duelist guy i dont even remember how it goes but it was better than any joyce shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:01:01 2018 No.11395436 >>11395292 I already did in the OP...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:02:31 2018 No.11395442 >>11395436 no you didn't, be specific

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Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:04:24 2018 No.11395456

>>11395404
>Joyce took the offer, and The Sisters was published on 13 August 1904 using the pseudonym Stephen Dædulus, a name given to one of Joyce's semi-autobiographical literary characters in his later novels A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man and Ulysses. The Sisters was the start of a series called Dubliners that he hoped the Homestead would continue to publish. In fact, Joyce would write two more stories for the Homestead, Eveline and After the Race, before complaints stopped the paper from publishing any more of his stories.[2]
Why are geniuses never appreciated in their time? Or after? Your post makes me sad anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:05:25 2018 No.11395460 >>11395442 Maybe reading isn't for you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:06:22 2018 No.11395464 >>11395460 not an argument

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:07:06 2018 No.11395468 >>11395456 How was i supposed to know it was a biographical account? If you don't tell anyone it's not going to be seen that way, it's just laziness for you not mentioning it in the fucking book.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:07:51 2018 No.11395470 I think my favorite is "A Painful Case". I haven't read anything else by Joyce yet, and as much as I like Dubliners I don't feel particularly motivated to either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:09:05 2018 No.11395473 >>11395389 actually you're the dumb one, and the stuff you like is the shit that sucks

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:24:50 2018 No.11395546 >>11395468 >this total lack of reading comprehension This thread is making an excellent case for why Joyce should be read, but not by /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:31:14 2018 No.11395572 >>11395546 Regardless of the “genius” of the story, it’s not good. Tolstoy’s The Raid is much better then this snooze fest about a priest

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Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:01:41 2018 No.11395686
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>>11395258
>Araby
Me too.
>tale of maturation and disillusion
Have you considered that it's actually a tale of shifting illusions? Imagery of light and darkness are a huge key for understanding this (imho more interesting) reading of Araby.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:20:37 2018 No.11395752 >>11395572 If you lacked the level of reading comprehension necessary to understand that guy’s post then you’re probably not ready to read Joyce

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:28:05 2018 No.11395775 I prefer Salinger’s Nine Stories. Maybe I’m a pleb.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:29:40 2018 No.11395781 >>11395752 maybe, I'll see if the next story is good, the encounter i think it was called

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 18:47:27 2018 No.11395864 >>11395258 >The Virgin Anon vs. the Chad Mick Eproctophiliac

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Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:46:03 2018 No.11396327

A Little Cloud devastated me. Dubliners is for sure the most emotionally depressing book in the world, despite not containing any "disturbing" scenes (rape, murder, torture, betrayal, violence in general etc.) cept for maybe the end of Counterparts. But that part isnt the disturbing part of Counterparts. Its the dark just... realism of it.

Yet it disturbs me alot. The reality of it. I think dubliners will kick you in the gut more than any old russian drama will. It also has nice stories, Clay, A Painful Case and Grace for example. I don't think i'll ever read dubliners again though, but i constantly go back to and flip up pages of Portrait Ulysses and the wake.

Its funny how Joyce btfo's any other writer who strives for realism, and then abandons it and masters artistry in prose and language.

Idk joyce is the supreme god tier artist. He said it all and more. I used to think he was just interesting and was canon but i really feel like hes lodged deep into my heart and will disturb and comfort me forever.

I think he really scratches and breaks through the surface of achieving a closeness to nature and real life in the most absolute and immortal way. You feel it when you read him. Im so shit with words i cant describe that feeling but yeah, im in literal awe of joyce

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 20:48:12 2018 No.11396332 >>11395572 The Sisters isnt a good example of dubliners. Also read the book b4 you complain

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 1 00:31:13 2018 No.11396997 >>11396327 underrated post Joyce is a god at depicting the real and it's...falling short. And he does it in this abrupt fashion that really deepens the effect.