/lit/ - Literature

1st for lingering degeneracy

>>11388531
please, its called Brorotica.

>>11388531
>lingering

F

https://clyp.it/qasztbyh

>>11388525
>what introduced you to Ellison
Some guy who used to write articles on Diablo2.net mentioned him, I did a search on Altavista or some shit and found the text of I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream.

>last book you read by Ellison
The Essential Ellison

>favorite story
Adrift Just Off The Islets of Langerhan

>rest in peace
I'll pray for his soul but I don't think things look good for him

sanderfag a hack

>>11388525
>intro
I read On The Slab in Omni magazine. It was fantastic and is my favorite.

>last
I've only read one Ellison collection, Angry Candy, which has a very sexual story which I think was called Broken Glass which was pretty hot.

I know I need to read a lot of Ellison.

>rip in peace
There was a comment that Harlan wasn't someone who wanted to rest or be in peace. Another said he was surely kicking ass in the afterlife.

>intro

The Glass Teat column in the LA Free Press, 1968-1970. Best damned TV column ever anywhere.

>>11388525
>>what introduced you to Ellison
wikipedia, i remember discovering the ihnm short story there

>last book you read by Ellison
"Repent, Harlequin!" Said the Ticktockman

>your favorite Ellison story
I have no mouth

>1st
I think it was the section about him in Stephen King’s Danse Macabre book.

>2nd
Deathbird Stories

>3rd
The Deathbird. The part about his dog made me cry. Jeffty is 5 also made me cry.

>>11388525
Are there any good modern sci fi books (ie written after 2010)? All of the Hugo winners seem really mediocre/forgettable.

>>11389239
What do you mean by really good? Who do you think is a good writer?

>>11388525
I'm stilling waiting for Dangerous Visions Vol. 3, you cocksucker.

>>11389239
Three Body Problem/Dark Forest, Children of Time, Anathem, Blindsight

>>11389321
Thanks, I've already started the Three Body Problem. Might try Children of Time.

>>11389239
Read The Golden Age and then if you like it read Count to a Trillion.

>>11388525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnE1iO-WJu8

>harlan on 4chan

>>11389341
I tried reading Three Body Problem, and only managed to get a third of the way through, before realizing that the peak of chinese literature is Xianxia.

>>11389239
I have this same question for fantasy. Only ones I’ve read that were great have been the the licanius books and chronicles of the unhewn throne

Never read anything from the Strugatsky brothers. Is this a decent place to start?

>>11388525
>Titus Groan
>not Gormenghast
Curious.

IT'S TOOL TIME

>>11389239
The Hugos have always been kinda bad, the winners are less what's good and more what's popular or whatever author is everybody's friend at the time. Like IIRC Mike Resnick has almost 40 nominations and honestly his stuff doesn't knock my socks off like other authors. The second ever Hugo winner was a pile of crap called "They'd Rather Be Right" by two literally whos and was suspected to have won because Scientologists stuffed the ballot.

Try the Clarke awards or the Campbells. And of course the books that didn't win, though generally some of them are great, a lot of them didn't win for a reason.

>>11389436
Would suggest looking at the shortlists for the David Gemmell award.

>>11385026
>As Lu Sheng struggles desperately for survival, he stumbles upon a game mod he had designed for a mobile phone app in his previous life. It unexpectedly becomes his special ability, which enables him to instantly level up any skill he learns, albeit at a cost.

ugh this sorta stuff really hurts

>>11389239
bacigalupi and blindsight guy are decent, chiang is very talented, lifecycle of software objects (don't know if it won anything, don't give a fuck) is one of the best stories ever written, period.

i'd avoid hugos like the plague though.

>>11389545

>>11389599
>Ted Chiang

>>11389636
>Fedora/Trenchcoat/Goatee
Wew. The trifecta.

>>11389636
>Lolwut.epub
Ted Chiang is brilliant.

>>11389599
>Ted Chink
>good

>>11388525
>Ellison
He's a good Dilettante

>>11389398
You're meming but the Three Body Problem is utter shite alright.

Where do you keep your books, /sffg/? I'm a faggot who keeps them in a closet because that way I don't have to clean them of dust as often as someone who might keep them on a regular open bookshelf.

>>11389841
on my hard drive

>>11389839
How does it feel being so wrong?

Downloads: https://b-ok.xyz/s/?q=the+stars+my+destination

>>11388525
F

>>11388525
>what introduced you to Ellison
I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream
>last book you read by Ellison
I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream
>your favorite Ellison story
I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream

>>11389855
Three-Body Problem is shit though. It's incoherent and rambling, the characters are samey caricatures that presumably rely on Chinese stereotypes to make sense, and the prose can at best be called "acceptable". There's nothing redeeming about it. Every positive review I've found hammers on the Chineseness of the author, as if that matters. A shit book's a shit book no matter who or what writes it.

>>11389841
I keep the books I own in a couple of bookshelves.

>>11389868
>A shit book's a shit book no matter who or what writes it.
My gender studies professor told me that this isn't true.

>>11390096
they are wrong

>what introduced you to Ellison
I was procrastinating when I should have been revising for my A-Levels. Decided to google "cult video games", Read about "I Have no Mouth And must Scream", decided that sounded pretty neat and pirated the short story.
>last book you read by Ellison
re-read Death Bird Stories a few months ago
>your favorite Ellison story
Honestly, as cliche a choice as it may be it has to be I have no Mouth
>rest in peace
Goddamn, When I discovered him it opened my love of science fiction altogether. I used to lurk on the webderland webpage and would try and build up the courage to message him on his forum. He used to post there regularly. I never did though, feels bad man.

>>11389496
Start with Roadside Picnic.

who are the most redpilled fantasy authors?

>finish Shades of Grey
>it's an inferior One Piece with too much padding, poor pacing, and barely any major reveals
More like Shades of Gay. What a waste of time.

>>11388525
>what introduced you to Ellison
I was a teenage edgelord looking for edgy science fiction. It didn't take me long to find I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream.
>last book you read by Ellison
Not read, but listened to. I absolutely love how Ellison reads his stories.
>your favorite Ellison story
Grail. The man hated piracy, but oh well.
https://my.mixtape.moe/jbbvam.mp3
>rest in peace
Peace or not, F, you bastard.

I am bored.

>>11390356
>it's an inferior One Piece
>he likes / thinks highly of one piece of shit

>>11390356
>barely any major reveals
Looks like you didn't get what the book was about. It wasn't about some grand epic epiphany for you to jerk off to at the end, it was about everything before the end of the book, the very meat of it. Mr Fforde's books are clearly too sophisticated for plebian avatarposting rabble like you.

>>11390356
Not enough retarded powers and people screaming about nakama for you?

>>11389387
"OC"
>>>/wsg/2278960

>>11390416
I didn't know it was the first entry of a trilogy until right before halfway through the book. If I did, I wouldn't have wasted my time.

>>11388525
>introduction
City on the Edge of Forever
>last
A boy and his dog
>best
I have no mouth

F

>What introduced you to Ellison
Babylon 5
>last book you read by Ellison
Angry Candy
>your favorite Ellison story
Probably Medea or 7 Against Chaos
>>11388569
>I stole a copy of Ellisons work
sweet dreams tonight friend
>>11389239
Try Nebula Awards, they are voted on by members of the SFWA
Kim Stanley Robinson, Alastair Reynolds are good
>>11389350
>recommending a deranged catholic altright cultural warrior
>>11389436
Gene Wolfe, Susanna Clarke
>>11389636
this is pathetic, do not support Wright
>>11390350
>most redpilled
go back to /pol/

>finished A Voyage to Arcturus
Strange book really. There's no obvious plot, the main characters personality and motivation is all over the place (why is explained in the book) and the whole thing is a vessel for the author to discuss a couple of philosophical ideas.

The world and descriptions kinda reminded me of Dying Earth, other than that I can't really name any books like it. Quite an interesting read.

>>11389387
>>11390447
>hundreds of them, by the thousands
What did he mean by this?

>>11388525
>Harlan Ellison
>shit talk everyone alive, sue anyone that talk back
Hilarious guy really.

>>11390447
Good riddance

>>11390356
Have Shades of Gravy finally become pleb filter?

>>11390447
>rumor mongering
>he is talking about pol
Kek. God bless

>>11389868
Don't forget
>suddenly space magic
at the end. I agree, it's overhyped shit and the translation is stunted and unnatural (though it's hard to tell if the translator or the language is the problem).

>>11389239
>sci fi
DON'T USE THAT WORD!

>>11390356
>cosmerefag is a brainlet
I guess he just pretended to like qnd understand hard scifi to make himself look smart.

>>11390611
>he is talking about pol
You sure are jesting. Or new.

>>11389239
no. the demographic is too small, publishers won't risk it.

>>11390624
Was here for 10+ years (pls help me I can't leave) and everything he said encompasses current pol. Yes b, v, g, co, tv spread a bunch of rumours over the years, but pol embodies all the points wholly.

They elected your Klapistani Prez with a bunch of lies and rumours.
Hell, I peeped in there during election time. There were government / hopeful government officials who were trying to get the underage b& to start trending pages on twitter, etc about how the media lies.

>>11390641
>They elected your Klapistani Prez
God you're retarded, don't bring politics here. Just fuck off.

>>11390641
Get out retard.

>>11390641
He's talking about BBSes you idiot. They went out of style 15 years before /pol/ was created.

>>11390641
your a focken git m8

>>11390641

fuck off sir

>>11389239
Secondiong blindsight and Peter Watts in general, as well as John C Wright (particularly Golden Age).

>Shades of Grey apologists
They didn't even get married at the end because of the stupid complimentary shit, what a copout. The book had good themes, albeit executed poorly in my opinion, but overall felt like a spoiled orgasm. I think being #1 in a trilogy is a big part of it but also lol never continuing the series, why is this becoming more and more of a thing or am I looking at outliers?

>>11390552
He wanted to drive their number in the negative.

Best WoT girl. Prove me wrong.

>>11390616
A meme worth forcing.

>>11389239
Only weird fiction.

>>11391052
Who?

>>11390616
syfy

>>11391076
Slut. Lanfear is pure.

>>11391105
Pronounced "suhfee".

>>11390672
4chan is the modern BBS if you don't know.
Fucking dolts.

>>11391052
>create top tier waifu
>completely ruin her
sasuga Jordan

>>11390672
4ch, /plebbit/, etc are continuations of BBSes, are the same thing but with graphics and downloads

>>11391105
Among all the retarded re-branding that one stood out.

>>11391128
>Lanfear (LAN-feer; Old Tongue: Daughter of the Night), formerly known as Mierin Eronaile, was one of the thirteen Forsaken trapped at Shayol Ghul due to the Dragon's sealing. She died in 999 NE after Moiraine Damodred pushed her into the doorway ter'angreal of the Eelfinn. She is known to the wolves as Moonhunter.

This even reads like some isekai anime.

>>11391181
>4chan
>modern
Come on man. Just walk away. No one here knows you or cares about your little brain fart.

When does this become amazing? Just got past the duel with Catalan. It's okay, but not the book everyone's been talking about.

>>11391273
>Tomorrow, on the beach, Baru Cormorant will look up and see red sails on the horizon.

The Empire of Masks is coming, armed with coin and ink, doctrine and compass, soap and lies. They will conquer Baru’s island, rewrite her culture, criminalize her customs, and dispose of one of her fathers. But Baru is patient. She'll swallow her hate, join the Masquerade, and claw her way high enough up the rungs of power to set her people free.

To test her loyalty, the Masquerade will send Baru to bring order to distant Aurdwynn, a snakepit of rebels, informants, and seditious dukes. But Baru is a savant in games of power, as ruthless in her tactics as she is fixated on her goals. In the calculus of her schemes, all ledgers must be balanced, and the price of liberation paid in full.

Egads man. I think you've been meme'ed on.

>>11390494
>sweet dreams tonight friend

Implying that he's not in Hell right now watching people read his work for free, Clockwork Orange style.

>>11391251
>doesn't understand that 4chan is modern compare to BBS
BBS --> 4chan --> Redshit --> Twitter
That is how it is now.

>brain fart.
What brain fart? 4chan is a successor to BBS, there was even a way to view 4chan BBs style, don't know if it's still around.

>>11391251
b....err... b-brap?

>>11391383
You just keep digging yourself in, each post dumber than the other. And all for the entertainment of absolute strangers on teh interbutts.

>>11391384
Braaaaap.

>Xianxia story
>Early power levels are the easiest
>Story spends hundreds of pages on them
>Later power levels are supposed to take the longest and be the hardest to advance through
>Story just glosses over tons of them in a single chapter

huh Almost seems like the authors get bored

>>11391226
She was too supportive, Jordan's ideal woman cuts your balls off and leaves you to bleed.

FUCK YOU BROWN THRALL WHEN YOU UBER FAGGOT
https://williamscorner.blog

>>11391383
4ch text boards were separate from the image boards. They were dead dead dead and finally got removed.

>don't feed the troll

>>11391399
>he thinks I will go "i was just pretending"

>>11391429
Who cares?
You are being retarded in front of absolute strangers who's opinions should mean nothing to you.

>>11388525
>what introduced you to Ellison
A friend of mine. He told me I Have No Mouth was deeply fucked up, and I was hooked.
>last book you read by Ellison
I Have No Mouth Collection
>your favorite Ellison story
I Have No Mouth. His obsessiveness just adds to it.
>rest in peace
Yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE

>>11391293
What's wrong with it?

>>11391617
Where to start? First, that naming sense: "Baru Cormorant", "Empire of Masks". Second, "armed with coin and ink, doctrine and compass, soap and lies". So basically they're people with an actual civilization. Those poor natives, having to use soap. Truly the evils of capitalism will never cease. Third, "one of her fathers". Finally, shitty math and/or finance metaphors: that's not what "calculus" means. If that summary isn't enough of a hint this book ought to be skipped or better yet thrown away, then I don't know what is.

>>11391617
What >>11391668 said.
Stronk female characters are the bane of genre fiction at this moment.
But to be honest I did not read the book, it's just that the blurb is awful.

Harlan Ellison was friends, acquaintances at least, with Patton Oswalt. I dunno if I came off as a faggot, but I had a nice convo for a couple minute with Patton about Ellison at a show he did in Salem. Had nothing but nice things to say about him.

>>11391668
>Where to start? First, that naming sense: "Baru Cormorant", "Empire of Masks"
What is wrong with it?
>Second, "armed with coin and ink, doctrine and compass, soap and lies". So basically they're people with an actual civilization. Those poor natives, having to use soap. Truly the evils of capitalism will never cease.
if you had actually read the book you would know that the main character admits this at several points and even begins to doubt whether her culture deserves to be saved when the Empire is so much more advanced.
>Third, "one of her fathers".
And? Explain how this is bad, don't be lazy.
>Finally, shitty math and/or finance metaphors: that's not what "calculus" means.
The book doesn't have those.

>>11389239
See >>11389321 except I would heavily debate children of time. If you have read/enjoyed Fire Upon the Deep then go ahead.

I'd also suggest Too Like the Lightning as it's extremely modern and while it gets a lot of positive and negative meming it's if nothing else very contemporary.

>>11389868
Three Body is shit, but leads into Dark Forest/Death's End which are spectacular.

>>11390613
How else would you have ended it? It's Golden Age-esc which isn't seen much in modern sci-fi.

>>11391763
>What is wrong with it?
"Cormorant"?
>if you had actually read the book you would know that the main character admits this at several points and even begins to doubt whether her culture deserves to be saved when the Empire is so much more advanced.
I'm not saying jack shit about the book, I'm talking about the blurb.
>And? Explain how this is bad, don't be lazy.
I don't have a problem with homosexuals or whatever the kids are calling them these days, but putting that shit into the summary is only done to cater to a very specific crowd. If you're doing that then red flags ought to be popping up.
>The book doesn't have those.
The blurb does.

>>11391966
Blurbs are wholly written by the marketing department. Authors have a chance of rejecting a cover but marketing does what they want with the blurbs.

Do you have something against aquatic birds like cormorants and mallards?

>>11391966
>but putting that shit into the summary is only done to cater to a very specific crowd.
What is it's part of the plot?

>>11392015
Years ago, in a tragic accident, my whole family was killed by enraged waterfowl. I now travel the internet, warning others about the dangers of trusting these miscreants.

>>11392036
Then that's worse, obviously?

I've never read many novels (at all), I started with harry potter last year but couldn't get into it since i've already seen the movies, but I just finished the Robin Hobb books and now i'm sad. But it was good. FITZ!
Where to go from here?

>>11391956
It comes completely out of nowhere, after the first nine tenths of the book were mostly hard scifi. And trying to justify it with popsci buzzwords triggers me because i'm a physicist. In any case, that was just the last nail, I didn't really like the book even before that shit appeared.

>>11392036
But the blurbs purpose is not to spoil the plot of the novel but to make you interested in said novel.
Said novel specifically pointing out that our brave native heroine has three fathers (none of whom is actually her father) and five mothers (at the point at which that evil masked empire tried civilizing her people) is a gentle nod to the all "progressive" readers out there to pick up this woke work of art.
The issue here is that any work pandering to this kind of people means that in all likelihood the novel is a boring derivative drivel.
Now I might be wrong, but after getting burned by the The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet I just don't have the time or the will to check it out.
It is all so very, very tiresome.

>>11392064
There is only one answer.

Bought Robin Hobb's Assassins Apprentice on a whim today and regret it already.

By 20 pages in it's the worst prose I've ever read, dialogue is worse, plot is every fantasy cliche played completely straight etc.

Anyone here have an opinion on this book / the farseer series? Should I keep reading?

>>11390474
What trilogy? There's only one book out. And of the two books hinted at, that might never come out, one is a prequel. Quit bitching.
>>11391050
>but overall felt like a spoiled orgasm
Looks like you have mistakenly preconceived expectations about books, kiddo. Authors owe nothing to you and you childish needs. You have only yourself to blame for not choosing a book that caters to your base wish-fulfillment and self-insert tastes. There's nothing wrong in dropping a series that doesn't fit (You).

>>11388525
An old shitpost I made about a year ago.

RIP Ellison

This is an anonymous board, confess my dudes.

What YA fantasy books have you read and liked? I have to admit I'm interested in the Throne of Glass series by Sarah J Maas and the Chronicles of Hawthorn by Rue

>>11392088
did you read the Goodreads reviews?

>>11392136
I watched that last Maze Runner movie, does that count?

>>11392088
I am >>11392064

I got really into it but it took quite a few chapters because the writing was a bit boring, then I started getting really attached to some of the characters. Even if Fitz's decisions pissed me off in the first books. And by the last series I was so into it that it was keeping me awake for hours past bedtime. That being said I've read very little in the past, never even been on /lit/ much so maybe my opinion is shit.

>>11392136
MAGNA

>>11392073
>i'm NOT MAD!!1!!!

>>11392136
Yeah and they're overwhelming positive, it weirds me out.
>>11392152
Oh sorry my dude, I didn't read the thread before posting. I'm mainly annoyed at the style of writing, which is absurdly elaborate (at least in the opening chapters). Every idea is crowded with adjectives, adverbs, and metaphors so that sentences become overly-long and flow very poorly.

That being said, everything is amazing when you're starting to read and that's probably a good thing. I'm jealous of the journey ahead of you! Personally I would suggest His Dark Materials, as something for new readers but with excellent writing and interesting themes.

>>11392136
The Lotus War series by Jay Kristoff, mostly for how hilariously bad it is. It's like a stellar example of hitting every YA cliche wrapped up in incredibly overwrought prose and tons of "teleports behind u" edgy stuff.

Alchemists of Loom by Else Kova was also pretty decent in a more general sense, probably since the main character was in her mid 20s instead of being a teenager.

>>11391668
I would read a blog with book blurbs analyzed for red flags like this.

>>11392232
I write that nice little post, expecting some bantz and all I get is "u mad bro".
You hurt me anon.

>>11392281
>every YA cliche
when I think of that, I imagine
>forced and unreasonably quick romance plots
>high school social classes regardless of what the characters are involved in
>assassins guild nerds, assassins guild bullies, assassins guild jocks, assassins guild nobodies, assassins guild popular kids
>a major antagonist is related to the main character
>main character is probably an orphan and saw their parents die

>>11392314
>assassins guild nerds, assassins guild bullies, assassins guild jocks, assassins guild nobodies, assassins guild popular kids
>main character is probably an orphan and saw their parents die
Fuck you anon. I know you are the Breeks anon. Why do you hate that series so? Night Angel is great.

>Main character is the lowest on the socioeconomic ladder until one day they learn they have a knack for [magic] and not only can they do [magic] they can use all forms of it!

>>11392337
Harry Potter?

Strangely enough, his video game of I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream introduced his stuff to me. The idea was horrifying and it pretty much hot me into horror in general

>>11392314
>>11392329
>>high school social classes
Do they have assassin Chads and assassin Staceys?

>>11392136
Mortal Engines. The world, though impossible, is interesting. The characters have depth as well and its just all around fun

>>11392136
>What YA fantasy books have you read and liked?
Feed. I probably would not have liked it now.

>>11392352
I like how the game uses elements from several of Ellison's stories.

Harlan Ellison interviewed on Brit tv 1976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDxnsNw4FZI

>>11392073
Creative sociology is one of the best things about SF/fantasy, so you'll miss of the best novels ever if you make aggressively filter for PC. Just off the top of my head and limited to extra parents, you've got Slaughterhouse 5, Shame, Leviathan Wakes, etc.

Besides, blurbs are mostly written by the publishing house, and so communicate almost nothing about the content of the book.

I fear you're letting the culture war rot your enjoyment of more than literature, friend.

>>11392549
Who cares if one retard misses some of the best books in existence, let them reap what they sow.

>>11392356
This 100%. Hester's characterisation / arc is amazingly mature for YA.

>>11392313
The left can't meme

>>11392136
The Prydain Chronicles will always be Completely Comfy to me.

The Belgariad is a huge step down in quality but it's still Comfy

>>11392313
>>11392561
Fuck off, plebbit barbarians

>>11392563
based welshmen

>>11392136
I liked Neal Shusterman's Unwind series.

I feel better after that confession....

>>11392561
Of course it can't because unlike nu-/pol/ it didn't come from reddit.

>>11392604
>relative post dates

>>11392556
I want more sff with girls who have face/body disfigurements.

just finished the Tamer: King of the Dinosaurs series. I need more shitty pulp, just hook it to my veins!

>>11392714
So there's this genre called litrpg.

>>11392804
But I hate reading about games, so no thanks

>>11392714
the other miceal scott earle books other than his long series about a tigerman
stuff like randi darren books
sarah hawke books(its still male fantasy even with female writer)

>>11392854
Thanks, I'll check them out

Do any of you fags have an actual coherent definition of "new age" and a well reasoned opinion of why it's bad or not?

>>11392254
>his dark materials
Actually I did read the northern lights. It was still a bit like, I watched the movie so it influenced my imagining.

I'd like to read something still in the medieval setting with magic where i'll get attached to the characters like the Robin Hobb books.

I randomly picked up Trudi Canavan's book 'magician's apprentice' the other day at the used book store, is it a good series?

>>11388525
Only read I have no mouth and I must scream I liked it.

>>11392903
Read Grail
And A Boy and His Dog

Harlan Ellison wrote some cool stories, but the main thing I liked about him was how much of an asshole (in the good kind of way) he was. Like how he got expelled from college for hitting a professor that called his writing shit, so for the next 20+ years Ellison sent a copy of everything he published to that professor as a fuck you, or how he got that arrogant piece of shit James Cameron to admit that he plagiarized aspects of The Terminator from him.

Ellison also sucked off a microphone and groped another author's breast on stage while being presented with an award.

He was always an entertaining fellow.

>>11392714
Have you read Tarzan?

>>11392882
What you mean New Wave? It's basically the period from the mid 60s onward to the 70s where SF writing started getting more literary and experimental/weird/avant-garde, with more of a focus on the soft sciences. You might look at it as being a "revolt" against the SF writing establishment parallel to the ongoing political revolt against establishment politics in the US.

New Age on the other hand is just mysticalist woo and crystals.

>>11392890
Yeah personally I really liked it.

is the Belgariad series worth the read?

>>11392903
"'Repent, Harlequin!' Said the Ticktockman" is pretty good.

>>11388525
>what introduced you to Ellison
When I was 8 or 9, my family rented a VHS of Jumanji. One of the trailer was for I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream the game. I remember it scaring the shit out of me as a kid and the title sticking so clearly in my head. Finally got around to reading it a few years ago.

>last book you read by Ellison
The Voice from the Edge

>your favorite Ellison story
Grail. I remember hearing it was Ellison's favourite story of his but regretted the lack of attention it got compared to I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream, which he wrote in a night as a sort of throwaway story.

>rest in peace
My he make the afterlife as weird and interesting as he made the mortal world.

just when you think you've seen it all
>As the smallest dragon in the Heartstriker clan, Julius survives by a simple code: keep quiet, don’t cause trouble, and stay out of the way of bigger dragons. But this meek behavior doesn't fly in a family of ambitious magical predators, and his mother, Bethesda the Heartstriker, has finally reached the end of her patience.

>Now, sealed in human form and banished to the DFZ--a vertical metropolis built on the ruins of Old Detroit--Julius has one month to prove that he can be a ruthless dragon or kiss his true shape goodbye forever. But in a city of modern mages and vengeful spirits where dragons are considered monsters to be exterminated, he’s going to need some serious help to survive this test.

>He only hopes humans are more trustworthy than dragons...

>>11389636
i read this and thought at first the guy on the right was supposed to be the cool one based on the list

>>11393509
Otherkin: The Novel

>>11393509
>just when you think you've seen it all
I mean it looks like trash but I don't get what's so outlandish about this to you, anon. Humans who are actually dragons is not a new trope, I think.

>>11393674
I think what makes it outlandish is the combination of blaze attitude (see picture) and playing tropes every one makes fun of straight.

>>11391181
>>11391245
>let me just make stuff up
No, they're not. A FTP server have more in common with a BBS than 4chan have.

>>11392549
>culture war
Not for me. For me it's just a bunch self flagellating tards trying to score social brownie points at the expense of their work. or maybe scoring said points is their work. Sometimes you really can't tell. I can't even imagine how repulsive it would be if I was an American and actually involved in that shit show.

But as I don't want to miss out on "some of the best books in existence" as this >>11392553 anon breathlessly states, let's give the book a try.
Looking the book up, I can see that critics have praised the book for " looking "unflinchingly into the self-replicating virus of empire"" and that the author has blogged "about explicitly addressing issues around gender and feminism, race and homosexuality, as well as imperialism in the world of Baru Cormorant."

There is nothing I like more than feminism in my fantasy. I hope this author can deliver.
https://twitter.com/sethjdickinson/status/1008137835524841473

>>11393707
If you don't enjoy reading, you should stop reading altogether and go back to your reddit litrpg hugbox.

>>11393714
Maybe you should stop getting triggered.

>>11393721
>being so triggered you start blogposting like this is your personal dumblr soapbox
It's okay to embrace your love of blogposting and reading blogposts anon, no one needs to read books for good boy brownie intelligence points.

>>11392136
Skullduggery pleasant

>>11392254
I'd be surprised if you found a well known book with negative reviews on Goodreads.

Anyway, I did not hate the Farseer Trilogy. I don't find the prose worse than your average fantasy book and I like the impact setbacks actually had in the books (without turning grimdark and oh so edgy). The ending of the series is somewhat rushed and not as foreshadowed as one could wish but I did enjoy it.

>>11393445
If you ask me, no. The characters are stupid and everything is over the top.

>>11393707
Kind of sorry I wrote that good faith response now mate. The SJW / anti-SJW puppet show has clearly rotted your brain, turning you into a giggling political retard. Who the fuck puts down a book because a review talks about imperialism? Do you think empires don't exist, or don't antagonise one another?

Should I read The Blade Itself?

>>11388525
I have no heart, and I must feel.
F

Trying to to get into sci fi. Can someone give me a space opera with
good characters and a 'great mystery' in the plot (something like The Expanse or Mass Effect series)?
I read Chasm City but everyone in that novel was so wooden and uninteresting, so I'm guessing
Revelation Space is similar.

>>11393912
> good characters
try the Gap Series by Stephen Donaldson.

>>11393912
Hull zero three

>>11393912
>a 'great mystery'
Revelation Space - A Reynolds

>>11393964

>>11393876
Only if you suffer from insomnia, anon....

>>11389398
Recommend some xianxia?

Damn. That was nothing like I've ever read before.

>>11394114
Read this and you'll have read them all
https://www.starvearchive.com/2018/03/03/the-dao-of-xuanhuan-novels/

>>11393876
I just finished the trilogy today, it's pretty good. An easy read with cool characters and dialogue.

>>11393876
No

Give me a SF story with time travel that doesn't fall on its face because of time travel.

>>11394210
There are no stories WITH time travel. Any story containing time travel inevitably becomes a story ABOUT time travel. And all time travel stories are shit.

>>11394210
The Man Who Folded Himself

>>11394210
Looper.

Did I fall for the reddit memes with this book? This book is seriously starting to annoy me, I'm about 700 pages in and Kaladin is still being a bitch. Looked up some spoilers for book 3, and apparently Kaladin still is a bitch. Should I even continue reading this if no character development is happening? Chapters are basically Kaladin is depressed that he can't save everyone, until he's not depressed, then he's depressed again. Seriously, this is just dragging on and on with nothing happening.

>>11394305
>This guy is upset over being torn from his family, watching his brother died, and getting betrayed by the only person of the upperclass that he respected and was sold into slavery with his goal being a living distraction for the actual soldiers. What a bitch.

>>11394305
why do 90% of fantasy covers show some guy standing on the edge of a cliff?

>>11394313
The book is 1000 pages anon. With the other two books most likely being another 1000 pages each. If your book is going to drag on like this, the last thing I want to be reading is about some dude crying constantly, then deciding to toughen up, then going back to crying again. It's annoying as shit to read because no development happens.

>>11394324
Wrong. There's several hundred pages of a redhead trying to be witty. Apply yourself.

>>11394330
Is it bad that I'm starting to look forward to the redhead just so I can avoid having to read more Kaladin angst for the 1500 time?

>>11393509
Would have been better if they kept the main guy as a small white dragon getting cucked by the big black dragons.

>>11388525
There wasn't a thread on /lit/ about this guy til he died, buncha hypocrites...

>>11389861
The science fiction 'Count of Monte Cristo.' Faggots will enjoy.

Is this idea too poorly fleshed out to be this generic?

>setting with mad scientists
>because the right maniac can be a bottomless gold mine, but on average they have an outrageous rate of incarceration, institutionalization or premature death caused by one of their experiments, scouting begins early and is highly selective
>this means mad scientists are expected to have impactful research published as early as high school despite a lack of funding.
>this means that for those without the charisma or pizzazz for crowdfunding, costumed supervillainy is the only way for a maniac to survive in this job market

The story follows a group of mad science students who become supervillains and end up in insane conflicts

Given that, the white council had all those young wardens and luccio - who somehow managed to be a computer nerd despite being over 300 and never touching a computer in her life - how is it that not one of them managed to figure out how to insulate electronics from wizard mojo?

Do magic circles break electronics too?

>>11394670
>cape shit anime about a kid scientists and his journey to mad scientisthood
id read it in a heartbeat.
story needs:
superhero crush / evil villain or maybe a sort of female android assistant that becomes sentient and mad jelly whenever mad scientist even looks at a women
a rival, either female or male, the famale could be a love interest or the rival could be a hero scientist maybe someone who makes gadgets for the capes
grey areas no black or white morality
some sort of reason for a mad scientist to become obsessed with science but not a reason as to why he is evil that shit is cliche and overdone there doesnt need to be a reason to want to be evil or rather than evil not good
aliens and dinosaurs also genetic experiments

there id read the shit out of it if it had all of this
if you really do this id love to see you on the new york times bestseller list capeshit is in upswing recently that supersales thing that gets shillied here wasnt half bad and hit amazons top 100 books for 4 weeks.

>>11394713
To clarify, they’re not villains because they’re evil. They’re just trying to make money through insane illegal schemes...

Well, except for the mad economists. They’re collaborating with mad astrophysicists by exploiting the relativistic implications of time=money

>>11394762
well thats why i clarified not evil but not good either.
i mean you could try to make them comic book style supervillains. those arent ever actually evil just goofy in a way with some twisted morals and perception of reality.
it could lead to interesting situations if you write it around situational and societal misunderstandings.
also id advise you to focus your story on one of the scientists rather than all of them. it makes stories often more cohesive. if you are inexperienced focusing on too many characters and writing too many POVs can fuck up your entire story.
you could try reading d-list supervillain. it does a lot of unique capeshit stuff. and the protag is a scientists to boot. it might give you ideas on how to handle things regarding the narrative and story-telling.

>>11394789
forgot to mention the motivations are also similar. protag in d-list supervillan is also in it for the money and revenge to a lesser degree. atleast initially.

>>11394305
The characters don't get any better anon. If anything, they get worse.
The second book was pretty good and gave me hope, but the third one was terrible.
The lore is the only thing this series has going for it.
Also, action wise it pretty much turns into Dragon Ball later on.

>>11394836
>The characters don't get any better anon. If anything, they get worse.
Sanderson.txt

>>11390613
3BP is noticeably worse than the other two books in terms of prose quality, although I wouldn't set your expectations in that regard too high.

>>11394789
I have a few characters I have in mind.

The tough part is that I want the characters to have superpower but I want a better way to justify it than other settings. I did have a good justification in mind but it doesn’t work well in this setting since it was intended to be used in something more mythological

>>11394210
Homestuck doesn’t fall on its face because of time travel... though it does fall on its face because the author completely gave up in the final stretch and none of the non-time-travel subplots get resolved.

[spoilers]Also near the end some time travel plot holes do start to come up, but they don’t appear until after the characters find a literal hole in the comic that had been foreshadowed months in advance, so they weren’t used to explain away fuck-ups... just to give the author a mechanic so he could go back and retcon his favorite character’s death[/spoilers]

>>11394952
Fuck, i hate having to phonepost

>>11392136
Red Riding series.

>>11392356
I'm about to start the 4th book.
The third was the weakest so far, but fuck the plebs who dismiss this series because it's YA.
It has better characters and plot than most 'adult' fantasy and sci-fi.
Also some of the best cover art in the game.

>>11395060
Lem is better you pleb

>>11395067
Huh? As in Stanislaw Lem?

>>11394952
>create homestuck
>great premise
>amazing artwork actually done in mspaint
>suddenly trolls happen
>man are incredibly androgynous and women have tentacle dicks for clits
>suddenly its not about weird adventures packed in a gameworld anymore instead its about relationship drama
it started out so good and then dropped the ball so hard.

>>11393707
Blatant "look, I am part of your ingroup, reader" signals are pretty annoying, but if the book is old enough and the ingroup outdated enough they turn from annoying to amusing and fascinating, like old commercials. I am sure critics 30 years from now are going to have a lot of fun with how today's issues are reflected in SF/F.
>let's give the book a try
Are you going to read it, anon? I look forward to hearing your opinion of the book.

>>11395097
>women have tentacle dicks for clits
I thought that wasn't cannon and the community made that up.

>>11395097
the only one actually made in Ms paint is the first panel to problem sleuth

>>11395162
>Are you going to read it, anon?

lol of course he isn't. he's just virtue signalling about how not triggered he is by the squeegees.

>>11395241
Nope its cannon.
Creator is an adamant tumblr fag since the trolls were introduced and caved into "community demands".

>>11394713
Got 3 recs for you
Confessions of a d list super villain
Dr Anarchy's rules for taking over Rhode island
The sorta dark mage

>>11389868
Thank you. I got one chapter into three body problem and I couldn't fucking stand it. Overhyped to shit.

>>11395316
It’s not canon. It was never canon. Stop lying.

>>11394952
>>11395097
Recommended reading about what it did right and where it went wrong: http://nostalgebraist.tumblr.com/post/48247840285/disappointedatgreatlengthstuck..
>The prototypical stable time loop story is, of course, the story of Oedipus, a story in which attempts to avert a prophecy end up fulfilling the prophecy. There is only one time loop in the story, and that time loop – and the characters’ responses to it – pretty much are the story. ...
>Most time loop stories work on the Oedipus model. Time travel stories, if they use stable time loops at all, tend to focus on one central loop, with the implicit assumption – as in Oedipus – that a single stable time loop is a sufficiently fascinating and exceptional phenomenon that a whole story can be built around it and the way people behave in its presence. Likewise, stories in which accurate prophecy is possible tend to focus on just one prophetic prediction, which may either be followed obediently or (as in Oedipus) defied with ironic results. Both of these types of time loop stories – time travel and prophecy – are fun to write and fun to read, and as a result they've arguably become overused. These things simply don’t surprise us anymore the way they surprised Oedipus. Who still gets tingles down their spine when they hear about a prophecy in a fantasy epic? Who still finds self-consistent time travel stories as mindblowing as they did the first time they encountered one? We’re jaded. Or I’m jaded, anyway.
>Enter Homestuck, where the flow of information from future to past is not isolated to a single “mindblowing” event or plot device but happens freely, promiscuously, throughout the whole story. Accurate “prophecy” is commonplace, and the notion that one’s actions in the present will help create the future one already knows about – like Oedipus’ parents sending their baby off to die – is just a fact of life, not the startling basis for tragic recognition.

>>11393873
Anon you need to calm down. As I already said, I am not a part of the "SJW / anti-SJW puppet show " unless you count my distaste of the circus currently going on in the American media as some sort of involvement. Obviously you and that other anon care a lot about this novel and I find that far more convincing than all the Twitter posturing by the author and the critics.
I'll ignore all the red flags and start on the novel. Because I care a lot. It's a dirty job but someone's gotta do it.

>>11395162
Yes I am going to start reading it. No guarantees that I will finish it, but I am willing to give it a chance and try to separate the onions from the novel so to speak.
Wish me luck.

>>11395309
I'll keep you posted on my progress.

Im thinking of going back to edit my novel soon and I think I need to redo the ending so it feels like less of an asspull

>early in the first chapter, precocious genius protagonist goes into an excited, childish monologue about her discovery that black holes produce EMPs when they suck in magnets
>first act happens
>villain is basically a luddite version of magneto who thinks hea a wizard
>second act happens
>protagonist is now in posession of a micro black hole in a jar
>third act happens
>protagonist knocks out the villains magnetic powers by throwing the black hole into the villains’s attack

>>11395439
Ok, hope you enjoy it, I respect you a bit now - but you are still extremely retarded for thinking that 'looking "unflinchingly into the self-replicating virus of empire"' is a evidence against a book's quality.

Tower of Babylon by Chiang was pretty neat. Whoever recommended that has good taste.

With Harlan Ellison's passing I reread his famous short story, and it got me jonesing for sci-fi or fantasy horror. I read Hull Zero Three, and I was interested in it but it didn't stick the landing, I was hoping for space opera ghost planet shenanigans.

Any good SF&F horror?

>>11395709
Does Solaris count or do you need something more blatant

>>11395744

I'm down for psychological/existential types of horror.

>>11395777
It's only a horror if you hate reading about people reading history books in librarys

>>11395709
Blindsight

>>11395553
You forgot about the "issues around gender and feminism, race and homosexuality, as well as imperialism in the world of Baru Cormorant."
None of this would be any kind of evidence against the book's quality if not for the fact that I have already seen this shit. The samey talking points, the samey sperging out on Twitter, the samey reviews - sometimes it seems these people are being cloned in a warehouse and then unleashed on the unsuspecting masses.
Were you the anon who mentioned creative sociology? What if there really isn't anything creative about this novel? What if the writing regarding the imperialism, feminism and all those other ism's is on the level of an 18 year old who just discovered Che Guevara t-shirts and weed? What if it just plain old sucks?
In any case I am about to find out.

>>11395777
The Colder War by Charles Stross, back when he still had some magic in him.
You can read it here - http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar.htm..

Any sff books about surviving with or against megafauna? Maybe colonizing a planet, or an alternate history with dinosaurs, or some fantasy book where giant animals are very common.

>>11396031
I haven't read it myself but an Anon was recommending Many-Coloured Land by a Julian May. It has wooly mammoths

>>11396031
If you don't mind pulp and harem;
Tamer: King of the Dinosaurs

>>11395439
>As I already said, I am not a part of the "SJW / anti-SJW puppet show "

hmmmmmmm

>>11395834
>The samey talking points, the samey sperging out on Twitter, the samey reviews - sometimes it seems these people are being cloned in a warehouse and then unleashed on the unsuspecting masses.

"i'm no virtue signaler butttttt"

Anything self published that's worth a read?

>>11396186
Holy shit shut up and fuck off I'm tired of /pol/itics in every board

>>11396152
I think I've come across this book before, but didn't actually check it out. I'll do so this time, seems refreshing, but I think I'll be a little disappointed if some oversized furry elephants are all I get.

>>11396155
I've read it already. Some interesting things in it. But like all MSE, it drags on and on on irrelevant points instead of getting the fuck on with it. Book 3 and 4 were specially affected by this, with double line spacing and multiple times that on paragraph spacing. Last book didn't have this, and I think there was just a single mention of litrpg elements, so that's a plus, but it still dragged on and on. 40% of the book was he lost in the woods, and the rest is nothing happening.

>>11396203
Everybody is writing for amazon, this days. What are you into? sf/f?

>>11392088
I’ve read all of Robin Hobb’s series, though I was around 16 when I started so I wasn’t smart enough to actually read good fantasy. From what I remember from my experiences the first Farseer trilogy is okay, Fitz is a fucking loser but he’s the protagonist and I could self-insert so I endured it. Everything after the first trilogy is just masturbating about being a parent and old, extreme cuckoldry and a much less interesting plot. The other books in the same setting are different, some interesting world-building and characters that aren’t clique fantasy brooding heroes.
Certain aspects get worse regarding cliques but it does become more interesting in the subsequent books.

>>11392136
The Night Angel trilogy. Children raping each other, the anime main character who has a power his mentor is shocked by, a villain that was thought dead but returned, a magical black katana made that is actually black because it’s wielder is secretly sad, it had everything yet I enjoyed the ride

>>11396270
His prose is so terrible, but the story was engaging enough that I kept reading. Then the third book happened and I regretted reading the series.

>>11393445
Only if you’re 12 or are willing to pretend to be 12, then it’s a nice introduction to fantasy

>>11396284
For me it was the opposite. His story was so bad I just couldn't get past the first chapters. It's like he decided one day to write the edgiest book he could think of, and that's what he came up with. I didn't even need to get to that part, but the instant he introduced a disabled imouto character I knew he was going to kill her the first oportunity he got, after raping her, maybe.

>>11393445
I still like the Belgariad. It's comfy.

You know whats even worse than the frivolous destruction of trees by protagonists

The frivolous destruction of mountain tops
How many mountains do authors think exist in a world, you can't have dozens of them getting blown up every fight !

>>11396203
Super Sales for Super Heroes of course.

>>11396376
t. Mount Fuji

>>11394210
Book of the New Sun is an obvious answer, although its less about traveling in time and more about playing with your perception of time.

>>11396376
Don't worry. Some authors are actually concerned with this and are creating mountains in battle instead.

t. the guy who wrote the shite myth age book

>>11396376
mountains are trees, look it up

>>11395709
Blindsight is pretty good for space horror.

>>11396418
So you should name your mountains after the battles that created em

>>11396285
I actually did read it when I was 12 so I guessthat explains love for it.

>>11393509
How is it? The cover gives it a nice shadowrun feel to it

>>11394341
Youd be literally the only person who enjoyed Shallan in book 1

>>11394316
Because painting is hard, you faglord

>>11389599
Paolo Bacigalupi is good shit. Kind of depressing though.

>>11390641
Or, y'know, maybe, just maybe, THE MASS MEDIA LIES ITS FLAMING ARSE CLEAN OFF AND THEN LIES SOME GUT OUT TO BE SURE.
There's nothing political about it, CNN would improve drastically if it were taken over by the Russian government, the same way Somalia was actually better off under Islamists.

>>11390494
You're a raging faggot buddy, drink bleach

>>11396421
Blindsight is 2deep4u trash for retarded weebs who are too intellectually deficient to pick up actual philosophy book

Is this worth finishing? I'm at the part where the spiders are about to go to war with the ants. I like the premise but I'm not too interested in the characters. Any thoughts?

>>11393876
Yes

>>11394139
Is that your first KJ Parker? I haven't read the Scavenger trilogy yet.

>>11397184
Finish it
Characters a gay, it's not the point of the story

>>11394139
This cover wouldn't like like absolute shit if they just used decent font

>>11397257
Hmm I thought so, I just hope it drops the details and starts to tell the story in the bigger picture. Pretty sure that's what its trying to get at.

>>11397273
it's

GIVE ME SPACE HORROR AND GIVE IT TO ME NOW

>>11397387
Admiral by Sean Danker. Four people wake up from cryosleep on a cargo ship crashed on a lifeless planet.

>>11397393
>Admiral by Sean Danker
not him but that looks decent, thanks

I should have started reading Throne Of Glass earlier, this series is great.

Do cultivation techniques work irl

>>11395455
This seems like something a 13 year old would come up with.

>>11397433
try them out and see for yourself

>>11397433
If you cant double jump irl than don't even bother.

Qing Shui spent all of his time punching the gigantic tree and then attack the falling leaves, only after the poor tree was entirely devoid of leaves did he move on in search of other gigantic trees.

>>11394504
He have been nominated in a couple of our monthly reading polls and there have been some minor discussion, mainly about I Have no Mouth (and the game). To be fair.

>>11396785
not an argument, fuckwit

>>11397699
Post your art

Is Riyria any good?

>>11396781
Eh, she wasn't so bad. It was a bit annoying at the start when Kaladin was doing cool shit like surviving the storm and then they'd throw in a Shallan chapter to tease you, but after the 1500th angst chapter from Kaladin, I started wishing for a Shallan chapter.

>>11397963
Which thinking back on it, Sanderson was pretty retarded in his placement of chapters. He should have crammed more Shallan chapters in between the crap load of Kalladin angst to get away from his bullshit instead of placing them after something hype happens, which ended up lessening the hype.

Should I read lightbringer or the powdered mage next? Which ones better?

>>11395455
>early in the first chapter, precocious genius protagonist goes into an excited, childish monologue about her discovery that black holes produce EMPs when they suck in magnets
I legitimately hope you get cancer

Lift is a good character, probably the best female Sanderson has ever written.

I thought yall said Heinlein is an absolute degenerate pervert. I'm quarter way through the moon is a harsh mistress and the only perversion I see is the corruption of the English language by the protagonist.
Where is the GRI I was promised?

>>11398281
Heinlein developed into a degeneracy slowly.
His later works are the sexually degenerate ones.
Friday for example.

>>11398281
not really degenerate, but kind of kinky
wait until he goes to earth

>>11397500
Asians (the ones who write these cultivation books) don't care about the environment. Look how China is a smog mess because they love to cut down trees, and now they are cutting down Africa's trees. Look at Japan how they fin shark and dolphin for soup.
Like someone said last thread asians are insects. They consume then move on.
>only after the poor tree was entirely devoid of leaves did he move on in search of other gigantic trees.

>>11398016
Why not both?

>>11398281
If you want true degeneracy you should read Friday or Farnham's Freehold.

>>11397500
>Qing Shui is a human warrior cultivating the Ancient Strengthening Technique, he has transcended dimensions and arrived on Kyushu. Together with twelve ravishing beauties with looks that were unmatched in their generation, he will train to stand on the summit of this world.

Webnovels were a mistake.

>>11398380
>Farnham's Freehold.
Already read, and stranger in a strange land.
That is why I shocked at the sunday school passages I'm reading so far. Will try Friday.

>>11398406
The more you look at it, the uglier it gets

Are there any science fiction books which mainly revolve around a steady cast of characters aboard a ship that's not involved in smuggling or something of the sort?

>>11397956
I read part of Theft of Swords and it seemed a decent but generic swashbuckling fantasy style story. Felt kinda structured like a TV series.

And there was some stuff that made me roll my eyes like the author saying that anybody going within bowshot of the city's castle at night would get shot by archers.

>>11398500
David Drake's RCN series, space opera about a brash young captain and a librarian/spy with psychopathic tendencies. The captain alternates between his military service and being "detached" for governmental missions or because there's not a war on and he gets hired to transport some adventurer to find a priceless treasure or whatever.

The Spiral Wars series by Joel Shepherd is about the crew of a space battleship that mutinies after their captain is murdered and they end up being dragged into a even bigger conspiracy.

>>11398540

Thank you, anon. The first sounds more like my jam. Not a fan of bigger conspiracies sort of thing.

>>11398500
star trek?

>>11398593

Too idealistic. And honestly? Too familiar. There's hardly anything worth exploring shit in Star Trek.

>>11398611
Stargate?
There's a shitload of stargate novels. Surprisingly most aren't bad at all but only really if you like the stargate universe.

>>11398624

Not a fan of the "Oh it's another ancient human culture!" thing either. At least that's what I remember about the SG-1 show. The original film was pretty much done and done.

>>11398635
Uh, maybe metal boxes is to your liking. Its more on the humorous side of things and doesn't always take place on a space ship but has a consistent cast. its basically starship troopers meets warhammer 40k but with seinfeld style situational humor.
its not everyone's cup of tea but i enjoyed it greatly.

>>11398153
haha awesome XD

What's going to happen to those Last Dangerous Visions stories now that Ellison kicked the bucket?

>>11388525
>what introduced you to Ellison
I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream. Came across it while looking for old sci-fi stuff to read. Fell in love with his stuff immediately after
>last book you read by Ellison
His story "On the Downhill Side" from the 1973 Nebula Awards, which I found years ago while rummaging through a bin in my school's library. Sat down to read it two days ago, and I need more.
>your favorite Ellison story
So far? Probably I Have No Mouth.
>rest in peace
May you always be clicking at your typewriter in that great fantasy realm which we call the Afterlife. And here's hoping you're just as cantankerous in Heaven as you were down here. Godspeed.

>>11388525
https://youtu.be/f-KueIGzn1g?t=368
Is there a full recording or video out there of him writing a short story in public? I think we all would pay good money to see something like this.

Also, "102 year-old pregnant corpse" is something only the creator of X-Files would have given for a suggestion. Chris Carter and Harlan Ellison, you magnificent bastards!

>>11395834
The female protagonists dilemma in 'Thrawn' is exactly the same story in Baru. That was weird to see this book being talked about, read the review, and realized the story was the same.

>>11393912
Hyperion Cantos

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>>11397429
ok for real, I get this is YA series and this board loves to shit all over that stuff, but I'm genuinely curious about this series. can anyone else chime in?

>>11399082
It's a spammer

>>11399082
I read "Throne of Glass" in school and it was ok. Seems a bit too close in title to good old Georgie, but it wasn't bad at all.