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11345214 No.11345214 [Reply] [Original]

>this book is bad because the 19th century author didn’t rail against colonialism at the time it was happening

>> No.11345221

whom are you quoting?

>> No.11345241

>>11345214
7/10 isn't bad kiddo

>> No.11345269

The Goodreads-page is downright embarrassing to read

>> No.11345287
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11345287

>>11345214

does this btfo Heart of Darkness?

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11345294

Superior novel about Africa, rivers, craziness.

>> No.11346858

Heart of Darkness is excellent though.

>> No.11346871

>>11345269
so its a typical goodreads page then?

>> No.11346876

>>11345214
there are some evident anti-colonial attitude towards end of the book, where he compared the steam boat to a demon spewing black smoke and gives some noble savage vibes to the tribes people in the jungle.

>> No.11346968

One of my lecturers says that it's the greatest book of all time, she gets so passionate talking about it.

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>>11346968
I think she just wants to get fucked by the BBC. Does she have any tattoos?

>> No.11347014

>>11346968
why does she like it?

>> No.11347016

>>11346968
Well, she's right.

>> No.11347031

>>11345294
Both Naipul and Conrad are worth reading. I do love how triggered so many get by Naipul though.

>> No.11347036

>>11347031
why do people get triggered by him?

>> No.11347037

>didn’t rail against colonialism at the time it was happening
...But he did

>> No.11347046

>>11347000
DARKED

>> No.11347049

>>11347037
bwhaaaaah but he used black people as a backdrop!

>> No.11347051

>>11347037
Yeah Conrad pretty clearly hated what was happening in the Congo, I dunno what op is talking about

>> No.11347060

>>11347049
What're you trying to accomplish, an imaginary argument against tumblr girls that aren't here and that you can't even be assed to pretend to be for trolling purposes? Fuck off

>> No.11347067

>>11347060
I stated Achebe's argument, which, so far hasn't been refuted

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11347077

Just to shill a book about africa, those that are race conscious (as in you are ambivalent to other races and enjoy muddy interpretations) will enjoy this book. Bloody, masculine, great description of environment. Romantic atmosphere.

>> No.11347087

>>11347014
She talks about the complexity of the relationship between light and dark, she says she could read it over and over again and still find more to think about. I think her main field is theory so I guess there's a lot to dig out of it.

>> No.11347089

>>11347067
Oh, ok here's something.
Here's a thing, each generation of writers utilizes their forefathers in a way that develops the tradition while complicating it. Toni Morrison studied Faulkner, Joyce studied the history of colonial narratives, and Achebe studied Konrad. You'd have to be an illiterate to not see Achebe is a student, he's just creating space for his voice to develop the work further.

>> No.11347092

>>11347067
But they were and still are the "savage" Other. I don't see the problem here

>> No.11347115

>>11347089
Addendum:

Bloom calls it "agon," a process by which each artist is emboldened by the previous generation and then must overthrow them in order to keep writing. What's the point of art if we just want to say how great Konrad is and there is no room for development? It's an academic standpoint to view a central body of work to secure your own position, but the artist has to say "well, why am I doing this then?" And that's a process of loving your traditional so much you can say there are things to be developed in it.

>> No.11347119

explain why it's good, to me it was just boring and meaningless

>> No.11347217

>>11347119
There aren't many novels that utilize second person as well as this one does. The conversation breaks in moments to remind you this is a narrative about colonialism on the Thames, an industrial center that formed as a result of earlier colonialism, creating a sense that the narrative repeats through the African narrative having almost gothic symbolism.

>> No.11347224

>>11347119
why did you find it boring and meaningless, how in the world can you find it meaningless!