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>What if the [Platonic Sun] is a kind of Black Sun, a terrifying monstrous Evil Thing, and for this reason [the vision of which is] impossible to sustain?

w-what... what did he mean by this bros?

>> No.11339215

>youtube philosophers

>> No.11339222

>>11339206
A bit of a gander but here is more or less what I got out of it:

The platonic sun from the cave allegory that illuminates the world as it truly is, in fact, something which reveals the world as a horror and as such cannot bear the truths it reveals for long.

>> No.11339243

>>11339222
very close, with one qualification: the Sun itself does not reveal Horror as much it is Horror itself, that the Real = Horror, and that's so impossible to endure, that at the bottom of bottoms, things are Fucked Up

>> No.11339258

>>11339206
Full vid?

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>>11339258
it's actually a quotation from Parallax View. Reproduced in full:

>Perhaps, however, we should risk a different approach, and read Plato’s parable as a myth in Lévi-Straussian sense, so that we have to look for its meaning not through direct interpretation but, rather, by locating it in a series of variations: that is, by comparing it with other variations on the same story. The elementary frame of so-called “postmodernism” can in fact be conceived as a network of three modes of inversion of Plato’s allegory. First,there is the inversion of the meaning of the central source of light (sun): what if this center is a kind of Black Sun, a terrifying monstrous Evil Thing, and for this reason impossible to sustain? Second, what if (along the lines of Peter Sloterdijk’s Spheres) we invert the meaning of the cave: it is cold and windy out in the open, on the earth’s surface, too dangerous to survive there, so people themselves decided to dig out the cave to find a shelter/home/sphere? In this way, the cave appears as the first model of building a home, a safe isolated place of dwelling—building one’s cave is what distinguishes us from the beasts, it is the first act of civilization....

>Finally, there is the standard postmodern variation: the true myth is precisely the notion that, outside the theater of shadows, there is some “true reality” or a central Sun—all there is are different theaters of shadows and their endless interplay. The properly Lacanian twist to the story would have been that for us, within the cave, the Real outside can appear only as a shadow of a shadow, as a gap between different modes or domains of shadows. It is thus not simply that substantial reality disappears in the interplay of appearances; what happens in this shift, rather, is that the very irreducibility of the appearance to its substantial support, its “autonomy” with regard to it, engenders a Thing of its own, the true “real Thing.”

>> No.11339287

>>11339277
Thanks.
Approximate page?

>> No.11339405

>>11339287
Mid-way through 69