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SFFG 2018 Edition
Half the year has already Gone
>what have you read so far for the year?
>how was it?
>what are you waiting on to be released?

FANTASY
Selected:
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General:
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Flowchart:
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SCIENCE FICTION
Selected:
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General:
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
>http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php

Previous Threads:
>>11311476
>>11301358
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>> No.11326897

sanderfag a hack
maas a landwhale

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Post superior literature

>> No.11326994

>>11326949
>fans of Game of Thrones
>it's a book
>Game of Thrones is a television show
what did he mean by this

>> No.11327046
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What are we going to read next?
https://www.strawpoll.me/15903366

Roadside Picnic,
by the Strugatsky brothers (whose name I don't even have to spellcheck any more)
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/331256.Roadside_Picnic

Brave New World,
by Aldous Huxley
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5129.Brave_New_World

The Stars My Destination,
by Alfred Bester
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/333867.The_Stars_My_Destination

The City and the Stars,
by our boy Arthur C. Clarke
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/250024.The_City_and_the_Stars

We,
by Yevgeny Zamyatin
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/76171.We

The Genocides,
by Thomas M. Disch
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/743672.The_Genocides

A Night in the Lonesome October,
by Roger Zelazny
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62005.A_Night_in_the_Lonesome_October

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>> No.11327079

Been on a bit of a sci-fi binge recently. Devoured Sleeping Giants and Leviathan Wakes in like a week, loved both of them and will be moving on to the sequels too. I also have Pandora's Star and The Forever War queued up, what does /lit/ think of them?

>> No.11327120

I want scifi with wizard running around with magically enhanced ar15s.

>> No.11327139

Fantasy books where the MC is a priest?

>> No.11327146

>>11327139
Coldfire Trilogy

>> No.11327177

>>11326825
>only place i know of is >https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasywriters/
>”new faces”
>gay kings
>transgender centered fantasy
Gave me a giggle mate

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>>11327177
>gay kings

OwO vas ist das?

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>>11327177

should explicitly start calling it "most reddit" books

>> No.11327237

You guys have any thoughts on the Narnia books/the His Dark Materials books?

I finished the HDM series recently and just finished The Horse and His Boy. I know it's YA, but I find the relationship between both series really interesting.

>> No.11327291

>>11327237
Pullman is one health scare away from converting to Catholicism, the The Amber Spyglass read like a desperate attempt to convince himself of his atheism.

>> No.11327292

>>11326235
If it was a sequel to The Hobbit, the Shire intro would fit right in with the branding. The book name would've changed to The Son of The Hobbit: The New Fellowship

>>11326554
>>11326812
You could post it to Wattpad. That would help finding an audience.

>>11326978
If you are a beginning writer, no one is going to steal your stories Anon.

>>11326897
Maas is thicc in all the right places

>>11327120
Write Gandalf fanfic where he timespace travels and shoots up a high school because the kids remind him of the fucking Hobbits

>>11327237
I loved Narnia as a kid. In recent rereads, they still hold up for me. I read all the Dark Materials and I just don't get the appeal.

>> No.11327294

>>11327185
>r/Fantasy Top LGBTBBQWERTY+
My girl Baru, neat.

>r/Fantasy Top Female Authored Series/Books
It's not too bad desu. A little immature, of course Harry Potter is in the top and it's jarringly noticeable that they mostly read contemporary fantasy or authors that are currently featured in media.

>r/Fantasy's List of Nonwestern Books
>almost every writer is american
LMAO

>> No.11327324

>>11327185
Lord Ruler!

>> No.11327338

>>11327292
>If it was a sequel to The Hobbit, the Shire intro would fit right in with the branding. The book name would've changed to The Son of The Hobbit: The New Fellowship
I suppose that's actually true. It seems like a lot of the first couple chapters (the writing around Smeagol especially) expect you to have read The Hobbit, anyhow. You could probably find a publisher willing to take a risk on an adult sequel to a YA book, at least.

>> No.11327340

>no one reads the OP anymore
>no one answers questions anymore
What's the sense of an OP then?

>> No.11327344

>>11327120
>wizard running around with magically enhanced ar15s.
Daniel Black

>> No.11327363

>>11327340
Don't worry, I'm planning a decent sized blog post as a reply.

>> No.11327373

>>11326841
>>11327340
>Rothfuss, Exile and Nomad by James Swallow, and currently reading ASOIAF
More but not worthy of note
>both enjoyable 2bh. Enjoyed the spy nature of the Swallow books.
>nothing I have plenty to read.

Happy?

>> No.11327433

Just read an entire book without realising it was the second of two rather than the first

>> No.11327508

>>11327139
The Book of the Long Sun

>> No.11327522

>what have you read so far for the year?
All sorts of stuff, mostly dinosaur food though.

>how was it?
I read my first ever Ben Bova book, it was garbage as I expected. I think what I most like about older books is that they aren't 500 pages long.

>what are you waiting on to be released?
The last book of Terra Ignota. Other than that I have a huge backlog, so I'm not even thinking about new releases.

>> No.11327531

>>11327340
>>11326841
Ok

>Read
Afterparty by Dale Gregory
4 stars out of 5
Thriller sci-fi set slightly in the future where designer drugs are 3D printable. Good concept and great execution.

>Current
The Sparrow. First contacts goes wrong. (Not a spoiler, this is literally how the book opens and then there's flashbacks.) It's kinda depressing but well written. I might have to drop it for awhile because I'm already depressed.
Throne of Glass. Lol. I was already reading it for market research before the Maasposting began. It's silly but fun.

>Upcoming
The next Murderbot novella
or Island by Huxley in the mean time

>> No.11327541

>>11326841
>Luna: Wolf Moon
This entire series is missing a certain something but it's fun enough to carry on reading. This one did some good tragedy but honestly if the author doesn't undo it in the next book I'll probably stop reading because the POVs I like appear to be all gone
>To Fall Among Vultures
Fun enough space adventure. The idea of humans existing as scavengers who live of the scraps of advanced aliens is good and the characters playing into their superstitions when fighting is a good one.
>The Tethered Mage
Meh, concept was kind of intriguing but it really limited the scope of the book.
>Child of a Mad God
Was alright but it's basically a play given that there's only really two settings. Might read the authors other books set in the same world so I can see more of it.
>Child of a Hidden Sea
This is portal fantasy and thus it suffers from constantly reminding me of Stross' Merchant Princes whilst not being as good. It's got some nice setpieces but the actual character drama is a bit underwhelming. Stopped reading the sequel like 1/3rd of the way through.
>Stranger of Tempest
Fun Mercenary/dungeoncrawling fantasy, quite enjoyed the whole book even if the characters are a bit cliche. Haven't finished the sequel but it was probably better than the first from what I've read.
>Grey Sister
I like this series. Lawrence has really matured since Prince of Thorns. Decent worldbuilding which is developed into a more unreliable and complex account here and good action, I'll read the third the moment it comes out.
>Talon of the Silver Hawk
This is Feist setting up his take on Monte Cristo, I enjoyed it but lost interest in reading the sequel because of Riftwar's arcs being unappealing.
>Sharps
Parker tries to be twisty here but ends up just leaving the reading waiting for everything to be revealed. An accurate description of an unenjoyable trip is ultimately not that enjoyable.
>Imager and Imager's Challenge
Modesitt is a one note writer but his one note is a lovely one. Starts as a stereotypical magic school fantasy and quickly expands into a story of intrigue, he writes a believable co-operative relationship and this is what carries the books, also imaging is a great example of an interesting take on magic
>Scion of Cyador
Modesitt does military and sociopathic. Not as good because the protagonist is intentionally hard to like and his problems aren't gripping enough to hook you when the characters don't.
>The False Admiral
Enjoyable mystery scifi where the characters wake up in a odd situation (but with their memories intact) and try to work out what happened. Elevated by the eventual discoveries and action in act 3.
Sequel is fun but a straight kidnap and escape story, I haven't finished it.
>The Rook
Favourite book I've read in 2018.
It's an amnesia urban fantasy but one the main character prepared for before their mind was gone. Turns into a sort of x-men spy story after a while but does the intrigue and the action very well.

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Fall of Hyperion was pretty good. I didn't like it as much as the first book, and it's pretty easy to see how the series keeps going downhill.

Simmons produces a lot of clunky sentences while grasping for profundity, and he's not above pouring on the sentimentality either. Which was great in the Scholar's Tale in Hyperion but I felt myself getting fed up by the end of Fall.

The series reminds me of Ada Palmer's books in several ways -- a complacent society unwittingly addicted to a miraculous transport technology it can't understand, the author more concerned with literature than science, the destablizing effect of frontier areas.

>> No.11327559

So I've started reading the Conan stories, honestly mostly because I want to start a Swords & Sorcery-inspired roleplaying campaign and I figured you can't beat the classics. However, I can't stand how unblemishedly perfect and practically invincible the character of Conan himself is.

This is the same reason I quit reading Doc Savage, except not even Doc Savage got as fucking tiresome as Conan. Every time the stories go on yet another bizarre tirade about how no civilized man could hope to be as strong/fast/handsome/smart as Conan is, or the "blaze in his eyes that no civilized man could have", or how this week's fair maiden is having erotic fantasies about him within 5 minutes of knowing the dude because they instinctively recognize the superior barbarian cock I just kind of glance off until the text has gone a bit less masturbatory.

That, and how many evil sorcerers make the floor or ceiling in their palaces/towers out of fucking ivory. I'm not sure if Howard knew ivory is not a type of rock. I like literally everything else about the books but those two things really grind my gears.

I think I'll slow down with Conan and read some Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser stuff next. I've heard those ones are more down to earth.

>> No.11327580

>>11327185
is reddit aware of how reddit it is?

>> No.11327603

>>11327139
Brothers K.

>> No.11327627

>>11327541
Finally
>All Systems Red
Liked this, it was short but pretty fun
>Trickster's Queen
This is the 2nd book in a series that I read first. It's probably the most believable revolution I've read in a fantasy novel since it is planned and plausible. Unfortunately the main character is just a bit too competent for an intrigue tale as there's little real adversity or doubt they will succeed. Stuff I mistakenly assumed was a sequel setup just turned out to be underwritten.

Stuff I read lots of but didn't finish:
>The Poppy War
Tries to do genocide in fantasy but just ends up making the characters look dumb for doing it.
>Liveship Traders
stopped because one of the characters was being a retard and I decided to go back and read the Fitz books set before it first.
>The Whitefire Crossing
This one's like 90% read, it was fun but I wish it focused on just the initial crossing since the rest of the plot isn't good and it's clearly setting up a failure so there's a need for sequels and I hate obvious foreshadowing.
>The Wolf
main character told not to work with obviously untrustworthy man, does so anyway so there's still conflict in plot. Alright until then but not gripping enough to drag me through that.
>The Cloud Roads
nice idea but I got bored
>Dragon Weather
Really enjoyed this even if it is just count of monte cristo with dragons, accidentally read what happens in sequels when looking for something else and now kinda uninterested in finishing it.
>Senlin Ascends
Was fun, got to the heist bit and just read another book and haven't gone back.
Senlin is super annoying tho
>The Midnight Queen
Not usually a fan of attempts at english middle class fantasy but this was alright, just wasn't gripping enough.
>Count of Monte Cristo
Not SFF but I'm gonna mention it anyway.
It's very good but also very obvious Dumas was paid for volume since it takes forever for anything to happen. I've read hundreds of pages and the revenge plot has barely started yet.

lol that's 16 SFF books I've finished this year already

>> No.11327629

Fuck it I'll bite.

>Hyperion & Fall of Hyperion
>>11327554

>Terra Ignota, Books 1-2
Generally like but I'm a little pissed at how much time she's spending on exposition instead of moving the story forward.

>Accelerando
Good but can't escape the pervasive stench of what sure smells like the author's pathetic sexual inadequacies and milquetoast liberalism.

>The Light of Other Days
One of Clarke's later novels, shows his development at portraying characters, although I still wouldn't call it "characterization". He seemed to be setting up for a sequel he never got around to writing.

>Death's End
It's good, the series is good, read it

>Count to Infinity
Great ending to a great series by Wright.

>Diaspora
Greg Egan is a lot smarter than me, this book pulls no punches on post-Singularity living.

>Three Hearts & Three Lions
Decent but not spectacular

>The High Crusade
Decent but not spectacular

>The Way of Kings/The Ship of Shadows
Double feature dinosaur novellas, pretty meh.

>City of Darkness
Trash, but what did I expect out of Ben fucking Bova.

>The Devil's Day
Read because I wanted something by James Blish. First half is great occult fantasy, second half was a little disappointing but still good. A hidden gem.

>The Star Dwellers
Another Blish, a potboiler short novel that's better than the double feature above.

>Solaris
Incredible, fuck everyone who doesn't like the infodumps. I need to read more Lem.

>> No.11327640

>>11327629
>and milquetoast liberalism.
Stross is socialist buddy

>> No.11327651

>>11327629
>The Light of Other Days

I meant The Songs of Distant Earth, oops. Although the point actually still stands, even if LoOD has the better conceit.

>> No.11327704

>>11327541
>>Stranger of Tempest
where... where you the cunt who suggested I read that shit? I want to find you for making me waste 2 weeks of my life on that utter shit. You and you big gut soldier can FUCK OFF.

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>>11326841
I read other shit but this is the sff. cba reviewing anything but Black Company has been amazing and Kings of the Wyld pissed me off the most. I guess anything trying to be humorous runs that risk more so than most.

>> No.11327711

>>11327704
Nah somebody else did write after I'd read it. You leave my thicc boy alone tho.
I pretty much never recommend stuff unless someone asks for something hyper specific

(Also how the fuck do you read that slow lol)

>> No.11327721

>>11327541
>>Grey Sister
>I like this series. Lawrence has really matured since Prince of Thorns
I don't know who i am sharing a general with. You fags decry prince of thorns but think red queen and red sister is better. jesus.

>> No.11327744

>>11327721
...red queen is the series prince of thorns is in which is his worst

He's gotten less ambitious but way better at writing with each series since

>> No.11327750

>>11326841
I've been lazy as heck this year and the only thing I've read so far is the First Law trilogy and I'm not even done with the third book yet.

It's pretty good, I guess. Not particularly outstanding in any real way but the characters feel fleshed out and most of them are interesting. The third books feels the most underwhelming, at least so far. At least I can't see any obvious twists incoming.

What do you guys think about the trilogy?

>> No.11327771

>>11327750
Third book is where it lost me.

Not for the plot twists which were fine enough I guess but because the characters just started acting differently to suit the point being made.

>> No.11327777

>>11327721
I wouldn't decry it but I enjoyed the interplay between Jalan and Snorri a lot more than Jorg. More on the fence about Red Sister, bit too vidya for me.

>> No.11327785

>>11327777
Nice digits

>> No.11327820

>>11327771
I felt that too, that the characters started acting a bit differently. A bit disappointing since I was kind of interested in where the plot was going.

>> No.11327833

>>11327750
I ended up enjoying the standalones a lot more. The short story collection had some great moments too, the Logan one it closed with especially.

>> No.11327847

>While I like to think that I’m immune to clickbait, occasionally I leave the high road and tumble gracelessly down into the muddy ditch where I roll around with all the giddy enthusiasm of a dog who’s just found a particularly feculent turd.

>> No.11327851

>>11327847
I knew it was Pat before I searched

>> No.11327870

I have not read a whole lot this year due to mainly focusing on finishing college.

>Most of the Vorkosigan series.
Started it in late December and read about one or two books a month. It's good, really good. Possibly the best modern Space Opera series out there? There were a few low points but they were mainly in the books that were written earlier.

>The Twenty Days of Turin
Saw this recommended on here and tried it out. A Lovecraft style short story about a journalist investigating a mysterious series of spooky events and murders. Unsettling throughout but doesn't get really weird until the last act. The author basically describes social media "HEY LOOK AT MY LIFE" stuff but the book was written in the 70s so that's extra spooky.

>Death Ship
A marine gets abducted by a alien spaceship that shoves him into a suit of power armor and wants him to steal the souls of aliens by killing them. Would be better off being called DEATH SHIT. Managed to fail both as a power fantasy and as a pulp adventure by being boring and predictable.

>> No.11327873

>>11327708
Children of earth and sky was boring utter shit.
No magic what-so-ever, yet it's "fantasy".

>> No.11327881

>>11327711
I've been cursed with autism. When I start a book I have to finish it. Book was so shit that I found other things to do instead of reading. Took 2 weeks to complete.

When a book is interesting sometimes I finished it in one or 2 days. I'm also no longer a NEET, so finding things to do instead of reading a shit book is easy.

>> No.11327900

>>11327554
fuck me do i have to read fall of hyperion or does the first hyperion stand on its own?

>> No.11327901

>>11327750
>What do you guys think about the trilogy?
"I bought you from a whore. You cost me six marks. She wanted twenty, but I drive a hard bargain.”

>> No.11327905

>>11327873
i know what you mean, most of the time I wish he'd explicitly write historical fiction rather than thinly disguised transposition with barely there fantasy elements.

>> No.11327928

>>11326841
>what are you waiting on to be released?
>go to good reads to get exact date because some anon kept saying tight pussy 2 in fall
>Expected publication: Fall 2019
FUGG :DD

>> No.11327943

>>11327870
Oh, I almost forgot. Points of Impact, the new Frontlines book. Honestly the series has been stalling out and there wasn't much plot development in this one. It took me like 15 minutes to remember what even happened in this one because all that happens is that the main character gets assigned to a new ship and is a dick to other people because he's got PTSD, and the battle scene at the end was just generic for the series. Hopefully the next one will be better but if not I'll probably quit the series.

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As a kid I remember seeing these books around a lot. Should I read Sean Russell or nah?

>> No.11327996

>>11327943
Is Frontlines the Kloos series?
I got bored by like book 3 if so

>> No.11328129

>>11326841
>what have you read so far for the year?
>how was it?
First Law Trilogy, was pretty mediocre, but just good enough to keep going cause I liked some of the characters (mainly Glokta).
Also read the Final Empire / Mistborn trilogy. There was a lot of good stuff there, but I'm not really a fan of allomancy. It's just sorta lame. Going to be reading Stormlight Archive next.
Shadow Campaigns I finished back in March, really enjoyed the excellent portrayal of Napoleonic warfare and interesting magic and demons shenanigans. Didn't care too much for the hamhanded gender politics but what can you do about it in the 21st century?
Read the Emperor's Blades, probably going to continue reading that series in the near future, surprised how much I like the brothers in it.
Also read Mark Lawrence's newest book, Gray Sister, the sequel to Red Sister. Enjoyed it, this series definitely feels toned down compared to his Broken Empire and RQW series.
>what are you waiting on to be released?
I guess Lawrence's final book in his Ancestor trilogy, ostensibly titled [adjective] Sister to fit the theme. I got a few new books lined up, including a new one by Raymond E. Feist that is not set in his Midkemia universe. Really excited to see what he can do when he's not shackled to Pug's lame ass.

>> No.11328163

>>11326841
>what are you waiting on to be released?
The Baron of Magister Valley, a couple of sequels and whatever's in the new releases

For this month there's a sequel to Open Your Eyes and a third Devil's West book which I might read if I try the second and like it.
Then I'll probably try a load of stuff from the new release list that sounds generic but could be better than the publicity

>> No.11328187

>>11327996
Yes. Honestly you haven't missed much. Most of the recent books have just been humanity in near continual retreat back to Earth, with attempts to counterattack failing due to the humans repeatedly overextending themselves.

>> No.11328217

>>11326841
>>what have you read so far for the year?
Altered Carbon - decent setting but the protag was too much of a horndog. I'll still finish the series eventually though because that bit at the end with the ninja shit was cool.
Flow My Tears, and Solaris - Decent enough, I do like PKD but Solaris was a disappointment.
And I just read Do Androids Dream all in one day because I'm trying to stay up and fix my sleep schedule.
It was actually pretty decent and had a real different tone from Blade Runner. It does wrap up a bit too quick though.

>>what are you waiting on to be released?
Nothing, I have too much of a backlog to read new books. I don't even follow any series. Though I'm curious about Gibson's new book because it's related to the weird time traveling of The Peripheral.

>> No.11328262

Typical Eastern fantasy:

>And so our protagonist went into the mountains to meditate for 100 million years

>> No.11328293

>>11326841
>what are you waiting on to be released?

thin air - richard morgan
dark age - pierce brown
next dandelion book - ken liu


thorn of fucking emberlain?

>> No.11328306

>what are you waiting on to be released?
DANIEL BLACK BOOK 4
WILD WASTE BOOK 3
SUPER SALES ON SUPER HEROES BOOK 3

>> No.11328313

>>11328306
The trifecta of amazon self-published masterpieces.

>> No.11328329

>>11328306
wild wastes 3 is already out. since last week. super sales 3 in november and thrall in december.

>> No.11328330

>>11328306
where are these books available for free?

>> No.11328347

>>11327900
Hyperion ends on a huge cliffhanger -- basically, the book is about people journeying to a certain place together and the book ends right as they show up. Fall still isn't bad, it just wasn't as good as Hyperion.

>> No.11328377

>>11328293
r morgan is a homo writer

>> No.11329061

Reading Royal Assassin (Farseer 2) right now...34% in and I'm bored already. Should I keep going?

>> No.11329142

>>11327079
>I also have Pandora's Star ... queued up, what does /lit/ think of them?

It is a loooonngg ass novel with a fuckload of characters and the second book in the series (Judas Unchained) is just as long. Overall it was pretty impressive worldbuilding but not that overwhelming at the end of the day. The books would have profited from some editing to tighten the story a bit.

>> No.11329193

>>11327870
>Most of the Vorkosigan series.
My nigger
I am huge fan of the Vorkosigan series. The final chapter in the first book Shards of Honor is the most feel inducing story I have ever read. And Bujold keeps up the quality too, the second to last novel (Captain Vorpatril's Alliance) is one of the best books in the series.

>> No.11329219

>>11328330
IRC

>> No.11329220

>>11329061
>Should I keep going?
No, I remember the end as super rushed and extremely disappointing. I have also hated the word "coterie" ever since because it was so overused in those books.

>> No.11329264

>>11329193
>>11327870
>tfw struggling through Cetaganda
all of the other books have been brilliant

>> No.11329324

>>11329193
>The final chapter in the first book Shards of Honor is the most feel inducing story I have ever read.

I take it you mean the "Aftermaths" epilogue? because oh god yes. That hit like a truck. As dark as some of David Drake's stuff.

>>11329264
Cetaganda would be my pick for the one I least enjoyed too. I think I would say mainly because for a good portion of the book it felt like Miles and Ivan were just along for the ride and waiting at the whim of the Cetagandans.

>> No.11329585

Alright, I'm the middle of a 20th century meme classics roll.
>LotR/The Hobbit
>Dune
>just finished Neuromancer
What next?
I'm also in the middle of Silmarillion but I want something else to read while going through the lore dump.

>> No.11329609

I finished The Dispossesed last month and liked it a lot. I'm now reading The Shadow Rising and ocasionally some short story from Ted Chiang's Your Life and Others. I'm not much of a short story kinda gal so it's taking me five times as long to finish it tho.

I had stopped reading altogether some years ago and sci fi books made me get back to it last year, so I'm pretty happy about that.

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>>11329585

>> No.11329803
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Settle an argument between me and my friend, /sffg/.
IS the concept described below a 1:1 copy of Philotes from the Ender's Game series, OR is it just similar?

>“[The next three Star Wars films] were going to get into a microbiotic world,” he continues. ”But there’s this world of creatures that operate differently than we do. I call them the Whills. And the Whills are the ones who actually control the universe. They feed off the Force.”
>“Back in the day, I used to say ultimately what this means is we were just cars, vehicles for the Whills to travel around,” Lucas tells Cameron. “We’re vessels for them. And the conduct is the midi-chlorians. The midi-chlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force.”

>> No.11330303

>>11329585
BOOK

OF

THE

NEW

SUN

>> No.11330453

>>11327559
>I can't stand how unblemishedly perfect and practically invincible the character of Conan himself is
Conan is a legend in his lifetime, giving him almost magical abilities. However, Conan is not invincible. He is captured and beaten in several stories and when faced with sorcery or the unknown he is often scared.

Because of how the stories were originally published they do get repetitive if you read them back to back, Howard had to tell new readers how tigerish Conan's iron thews are in every magazine.

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Just finished Multiverse series by Weber, books that are out anyway, really enjoyed asymmetric war aspect of it, even tho i'm usually more into sf than fantasy, also enjoyed lack of clear bad side, tho cartoon villains on either side got a bit grading.

Looking for more like it, any ideas?

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>>11330666
Read this next

>> No.11330696

>>11327750
Would you watch a paraplegic "run" a marathon without his wheelchair? That's what it feels like reading Slow Joe Abercrombie.

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>>11330685
Thx for the tip, but that book from outset includes few things i greatly despise, that being vampires, and implausibly incompetent aliens invading implausibly competent humans in implausibly clumsy fashion.

Tho, frankly, I just despise vampires so much i haven't even touched Blindsight, despite it sounding like something more up my alley.

>> No.11330708

Hi /lit/ I'm just getting into reading and I recently finished Dune. I really enjoyed it and I wanted to know if I should continue reading the sequels. I've heard mixed reviews about them with some people saying to only read the first one, others saying read the first 3, etc.
What do you guys recommend?

>> No.11330732

>>11330708
I read the first book as a standalone. It's your time. If you want to waste it with the sequels no one can stop you.

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I'm looking for some good science fiction books with giant mechs, anyone know if these exist? It would be cool if there were some cool western stories that feature anime style mechs or robots.

>> No.11330774

>>11330748
not really, but if it's worth anything childhood's end and starship troopers were some of tomino's inspirations.

>> No.11330802

>>11330774

I guess the giant mechs are more popular over in Japans novels, but thanks for the recomendations I'll check those out.

>> No.11330819

>>11330802
If you want normal mechs you can try The Mechs series by Bv Larson

>> No.11330823

>people complain about overly smart protagonists a lot
>read a few books with dumb/ignorant protags
>they're unbearable

>> No.11330831

>>11330708
It's worth at least reading 4
Reading just 3 is stupid because Children is one of the worst books in the series whilst God Emperor rules.

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>>11330823
I ignore most of sffg. They are mostly dumb dinoposters who don't want to read anything new, just revisit their childhood through nostalgia.

They read sparknotes, wikis, and reviews, thwn come in here and pretend that they read a book released in the last 10 years. Fed up of the BS tbqhwy

>> No.11330852

>>11330823
>people complain about overly smart protagonists a lot
Eh? Most complaints are about Mary Sues, not just smart protags. Difference being that smart protags occasionally get outplayed, be it trough luck or superior capability on the opponent's side, and/or just plain fuck things up once in a whlie. Have flaws, character, convictions, and not just blatant goody two shoes who is every bit as cardboard cutout as their usual enemies.

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Any books with an older woman and younger boy?
Already read trysmoon saga, king queen knave, and the stand. Want some more.

>> No.11331094

>>11330701
For me, Blindsight's vampires were redeemed because of this (very spoilery) sequence from late in the book

>Sarasti's corpse urged me on from behind. I turned and faced it.

>"Was it ever him?" I asked.

>Go.

>"Tell me. Did he ever speak for himself? Did he decide anything on his own? Were we ever following his orders, or was it just you all along?"

>Sarasti's undead eyes stared glassy and uncomprehending. His fingers jerked on the handpad.

>U dislke ordrs frm mchnes. Happier ths way.


For most of the book the vampires had been hyped up as the very latest wave of transhumanism, a sort of middle point between Rorschach and humanity, a greater force safeguarding the species in some way, however twisted it was. So the reveal that Sarasti was controlled by an AI all along, thereby implying humanity was well and truly obsolete was a very effective final gut-punch which to me justified their entire presence in the novel.

>> No.11331316

>>11327139
A Canticle for Leibowitz.

>> No.11331369

Reagan raised the totems of Flag and Feather, one in each hand, and upon his brow shone the pyramid-eyed mark of the Masons. A stillness passed across the crowd, as if everyone were suddenly full of breath; and it seemed that already they could hear the faint tremor in the concrete.

"Mister Gorbachev," the Elder President cried, naming its maker, "come here to this gate!" A rushing wind out of the east, a steppe wind, and now with the second cry "Mister Gorbachev, open this gate!" a hot wet wind from the west, and as the clouds thickened above and the Flag unfurled in the breeze, the third naming, and the act: "Mister Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"

A purple shadow, like a portwine stain on a bald scalp, covered everyone's vision, and then the concrete shattered.

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>>11331369

>> No.11331553

>>11330851
Why would they prefer old books and pretend to read new ones? You never make much sense meme-kun.

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How does the Sandman pump out so many books?

>> No.11331814

>>11331759
he uses a deep learning generator to write all of his shit and then just edits it

>> No.11331822

>>11331759
That sick fuck actually finds joy in writing.

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>>11331759
He has an enormous cock and so hasn't had to have to worry about it being big enough ever thus leaving him all the spare time there is in the world to write 12-year-old level prose.
I'm kidding except for the prose part. It's horrendous.
English is my 3rd best language and even I can tell he writes worse than pseudo-randomly re-directing the air pressure from my farts to keyboard presses and forming a novel from that.

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All the evolutionary psychology ruined the novel for me.
I'm glad Suasn got some character development by the end or this was gonna be pure trash.

>> No.11331987

>>11331553
They pretend to read new books to call it shit, and discourage others from reading it. They will then suggest their dated pieces of shit, so they can have people make conversation with them.

It's all an elaborate scheme to have people discuss their old books. And because me and others don't care enough to fight them every time they pull it, new comers think "sffg likes these books".

>> No.11332041

>>11331987
Feel free to get out if you have shit taste
In fact I recommend you read Sarah J. Maas. That's a recent author right?
Fuck right off.

>> No.11332109

>>11332041
This is exactly what dinoposter is talking about desu

They're a boring memelord but they're right about a certain reactionary part of this thread never actually moving beyond the authors they love

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>>11332041
Make me leave faggot. I was here before you. I helped start and maintain this general until it was self sustaining. You dinocunts tried hostile take over years ago, but you didn't succeed. I guess the passing of years made a lot of the defenders give up the cause. But I will never accept your dated shit tastes.

>maas
>if you like new books you will read the shit ones
Neck yourself.

>> No.11332121

>>11331987
Why read new book when there are tons of classics I have not read.

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>>11332109
I'm actually anti-dinoposter. Dinoposter is the one years ago who paved the way for fossil fuels books that are a plague of this general.

>> No.11332134

>>11332110
Did some dino writer put a finger in your bum? You sound like such a faggot.
Actually, nevermind, I don't care either way.

>> No.11332137

>>11332121
tbf some of the classics suck. Like has anyone actually read Lucifer's Hammer in the past 20 years and enjoyed it? It's a boring suburban fantasy and yet I still see it lauded

>> No.11332161

What's essential Kim Stanley Robinson?
I've read Aurora, 2312, New York: 2140, Red Mars, Icehenge

>> No.11332166

>>11332125
I read old and new but there is so much gay butsex in the new stuff sometimes.>>11332110

>> No.11332170

>>11328306
Red Moon on Audible
Red Moon in general I guess, I just hope the audiobook comes out at the same time

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>>11332121
I read both classics and modern. There are utter shit and gems in both. The problem is the dinos try to force everyone into reading only old books. And shit on anything new.

A lot of people in this general love to read like myself, but these nostalgic prunes try to convince people that reading only old books is the true way. This general was made exactly for that purpose, escaping the e/lit/ist whose pretentious and obviously fake air of superiority was too nauseating to stomach.

The people you see forcing "literary classics" are outer lit. They are fed up of us enjoying books and took it upon themselves to infiltrate and assimilate our general. Haven't you noticed the same books over and over again? What about something fresh from the myriad of classics available? It's a hostile take over from people that don't even read. Just regurgitate the same books ad nauseam.

>> No.11332181

Oy, fags, I wanna read the Culture series, but I have no idea where to start and also I wanted your bad opinions on whether it's worth it

>> No.11332185

I have to take a moment to appreciate how the isolation of this general allows talking points as absolutely retarded as "it's bad because it's old lmao" to be seriously discussed rather than immediately laughed out of the board

>> No.11332192

>>11332185
Ignore him, it's what most of us do.
>>11332181
Player of games

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Thoughts on this one?

>> No.11332194

>>11332185
It's the price we pay for wanting to talk about fun books.

>> No.11332196

>>11332137
>Lucifer's Hammer
I enjoyed it. It still hold up today. But I like books where people use resources to survive.

>> No.11332200

Where my /pkd/ niggas
I've read Flow my Tears, Ubik, and Three Stigmata
What else is essential to read to get the full PKD experience?

Also does Stanislaw Lem have other good books besides Solaris?

>> No.11332206

>>11332137
>Like has anyone actually read Jerry Pournelle in the past 20 years and enjoyed it?

fixed

>> No.11332208

>>11332206
Sure, he's okay.

>> No.11332210

>>11332193
The movie dragon/dog scared the shit out of me as a kid. I hated it with a passion.

>> No.11332216

>>11332206
Still mad at some dickhead in here recommending me Falkenberg

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>>11332185
You sound new... Are you a spy?
Also
>what is reading comprehension
By your same logic
>it's bad because it's new

>> No.11332230

>>11332221
This post makes absolutely no sense, please fuck off

>> No.11332234

>>11332200
At least you went a little off the beaten path with Flow My Tears. I'm reading Clans of the Alphane Moon right now and it's probably him at his most humorous. My absolute favorite though besides Flow My Tears is A Maze Of Death which I would consider absolutely essential desu

>> No.11332236

I want to read something that's either a lot like or completely the opposite to The Once and Future King. By which I mean heavily Christian in a mythic rather than directly religious sense (usage of Christian motifs and legends while not being meant to evangelize), verisimilar and having definite fantastic themes but not being necessarily ABOUT them. I realize this may be pretty fucking niche so anything fairy tailish is okay too.

>> No.11332260

>>11332200
I've only read Flow My Tears, what should I read next?

>> No.11332266

>>11332260
ubik

>> No.11332268

>>11332236
The obvious answer is BotNS since it fit literally any request anyone can come up with.

>> No.11332274

>>11332268
BotNS actually fits what I'm looking for pretty well but I'm already reading it. Thanks anyway anon

>> No.11332284

>>11332266
After reading Ubik, I have a couple of questions:
1. What the fuck

also nice digits

>> No.11332398

>>11332230
It does. You're just so newfag you can't read memes. You are from outer lit pretending to be a sffg user.

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>>11332166
>but there is so much gay butsex in the new stuff sometimes
But that has been in novel for time immemorial.

>> No.11332409

>>11332274
I have not actually read The Once and Future King (I intend to) but Mists of Avalon might be what you're looking for if you're fine with reading another Arthurian tale. It deal with Christianity and the old religion and is one of few books that have actually managed to feel really spiritual to me.

>> No.11332461

>450 page book
>six pov protagonists
but why

>> No.11332496

Can anyone recommend some horror novels? It's one genre I've neglected.

>> No.11332504
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Fantasy like devil may cry?

>> No.11332507

>>11332236
Lord dunsany.

>> No.11332526

>>11332496
library at mount char

>> No.11332533

>>11332504
Wicked City
Demon City Shinjuku
Monster Hunters International

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>>11332504
Vampire Hunter D.

>> No.11332634

>>11332137
somtime's it's more about context and understanding where things come from

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>>11328329
>thrall in december.
How do you know? Are you one of his patreons? Does he release chapters there? Can you.. zip and upload them somewhere?

>> No.11332698

Is "Dracula, " worth reading?

>> No.11332700

>>11332461
just think of it as getting 6 75 page short stories!

>> No.11332704

>>11332166
>so much gay butsex
let me guess pol?

>> No.11332719

>>11332504
Why does his sword have a bike clutch on the handle?

>> No.11332803

>>11332676
interview on some podcast. where he appeared together with blaise corvin. dong know which one it was linked here in a past general.

>> No.11332814

>>11332236
The Red Knight by Miles Cameron has a lot of Christian imagery

>> No.11332815

>>11332698
Obviously

>> No.11332998

what is the best fantasy or science fiction book of the last 10 years

>> No.11333010

>>11332998
there is none

>> No.11333021

>>11332998
theres a few good ones but nothing "iconic" that everyone should read.

>> No.11333211

Been googling and this list came up from shittit. Any good books there? The list is at the bottom.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/845jvs/ive_been_getting_into_litrpg_novels_lately_what/

>> No.11333215

Give me something spooky in the vein of Solaris and the better Lovecraft stories, like Colour out of Space

>> No.11333227

>been googling and here is a reddit link

thanks for that m8
why not just keep googling you ass wipe

>> No.11333239

>>11332803
Do you remember the website's name? Google the authors names together with "podcast" gives me nothing.

>> No.11333241

>>11333211
>Any good books there?
>litrpg
no

>> No.11333273

>>11333241
Some from that list got to be good. I see supersales is there. And that book is shilled like crazy in the general.

>> No.11333293

>>11333273
its no doubt shilled by the author because noone else has uploaded it anywhere to download

>> No.11333324

Since we're talking about online shit written by amateurs are there any other decent web serials aside from Worm?

>> No.11333337

>>11333293
But I downloaded that particular series from 2 places. Why don't you hang a sign around your face that says "newfag" in all caps?
Or do you think you're clever enough to reverse psychology anons into giving you the link?

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>>11333324
Web serials are not books.
Litrpg are not books.
Light novels are not books.

>> No.11333364

>>11333351
there are plenty of webnovels that are better than the garbage produced by proper "writers"

>> No.11333368

>>11333351
I wish I had the time to edit my cape litrpg where the protagonist levels up my slashing stomachs (he's running a dex build for the sake of the plot) but my job at Starbucks is just too much.

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>>11333364
To be fair, that's not really a hard bar to beat.

>> No.11333615

>>11333239
nope sorry it was just a youtube video posted here and i really just skimmed through it and read the comments.

>> No.11333683

>>11333273
super sales is pretty good but only because it has an actual story and is very light on the rpg elements. i was reluctant at first to read it because it was shilled so much but i ended up really enjoying it. all of that authors books are pretty great but in general most litrpgs are really shit. you might wanna give the books of micheal scott earle a try. i really enjoy tamer and star justice. those are fun in a pulpy kind of way. if you want to go balls deep into really actual litrpgs that are kinda okey i gotta disappoint you. theyre all shit. though ive read several people here mention emerilia as being good. havent read it personally though.

>> No.11333699

>>11333683
all the ones that are like "Well a guy goes into a video game and plays a video game" are fucking horrible

>> No.11333707

>>11333699
thats 90% of litrpgs unfortunately. i did enjoy alpha world though. mostly because of the story though. made me cry like a bitch several times because it can hit you right in the feels.

>> No.11333752

>>11333707
Alpha World is the same thing, nothing in the story MEANS anything because its just losers playing a video game

>> No.11333759

>>11333752
well sure. but if you cant get past that things arent actually real then you cant enjoy anything. i mean all scifi or fantasy books arent real and as such dont matter.

>> No.11333769

>>11333759
but the world is at least real to the people in a sci-fi/fantasy book... rather than a protag just playing a "realistic" game...

>> No.11333773

>>11327079
>Leviathan Wakes
The expanse series of novels is some of the best scifi ever.

>> No.11333791

>>11333769
try reading emerilia then. the plot is the game is the real world and earth is a simulation.
i get where you are coming from but it wont do you any good to be so selective and nitpicky. just try and get past it. if you cant then you literally cant read 90% of the books in that genre.

>> No.11334078

>>11332814
One of the things I liked best about those books

>> No.11334247

>>11327079
Forever War was cool but don't read its sequels.

>> No.11334663

>>11334247
Does it work well as a stand alone?

>> No.11334681

>>11334663
yes

>> No.11334874

How do writers (and directors) come up with strange symbolism?

>> No.11334967

>>11334874
take something from human history and tweak it slightly

>> No.11334968

>>11334874
Do you mean symbolic meaning or written characters?

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>>11327177
>>gay kings

>> No.11334988

>>11334968
Symbolic meaning.
And especially in animation series, strange scenes.

>> No.11335099

>>11327046
Roadside picnic I highly recommend.

>> No.11335119

>>11335099
It's been in to polls for three months straight, and have always finished second. I think part of the reason that it's not selected is that most people have already read it.

>> No.11335131

>>11333769
>>11333752
The story MEANS SOMETHING because that virtual world is his home. He can't go back in the real world. his wife is an ai too, I thought they would transfers her consciousness to a human body and break him out eventually.

>> No.11335146

>>11332185
I don't think anyone was saying "its bad because it's old", but that anon was more hinting that not every book ages well and what may have been a very unique and original story 50 years ago may not still be seen that way today.

>> No.11335250

i just read the 2nd book of kingkiller chronicle and im fucking mad at how bad it is compared to the 1st book

>> No.11335268

>>11334874
A good percentage of "strange symbolism" is ex post facto, it simply didn't exist until a fan invents it.

>> No.11335282

>>11335250
That's one hell of a low bar.

>> No.11335329

>>11335250
You'll be mad when you find out it's been 7 years since it was written and still no book 3. In fact the author hates his fans but he still enjoys the millions they gave him. He's not even working on the book. Only 2 novels on his bibliography and a couple of novellas, the lazy fat fuck.

>> No.11335366

>>11335268
I often feel pretty stupid when others can talk for hours about the symbolism in some series or novel while it went straight past me.

>> No.11335398

>>11335366
You didn't learn how to spot "symbolism" from your high school literature class?

>> No.11335427

>>11335398
Nope.

>> No.11335491

>>11332533
>>11332556
Thanks.

>> No.11335508

>>11334874
For a great exercise in symbolism, read Joyce's Dubliners, then read online about the ysmbols used in the book.

In everyday life, just think of small things you and others do and try to extrapolate into how that reflects their personality/character/beliefs/etc.

A simple example (from a novel I just read), would be a couple that demands that their kid is perfect in every way, and this is reflected in how the pair organizes everything in the house neatly/mathematically, and if say a picture frame is knocked slightly out of place, they carefully adjust it so it's even with the ground.

Start small, with simple and obvious examples like that, then practice and work your way up, eventually working in more abstruse references.

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11335730

>>11326841
”Gee Whiz” was written on the lips of a little boy dressed in chequered flannel shirt, blue jeans and thick boots. An exclamation totally devoted to the spectacle, which uncovered before his juvenile eyes. He looked out of his bedroom window up to the star sprinkled heaven, which was hanging over the quiet forest and fields like a dark cloth. Over the serene scenery a bright solitary object was traversing the view from left to right. It moved a little janky as if someone was holding it on an invisible spoon like children playing eggs run. The little boy sneaked immediately out of his dark bedroom and tiptoed the stairs down to the living room, not wanting to wake up his parents, who explicitly forbade him to wander inside and especially outside of the house at these late hours. He fetched a looking glass with which he was very good acquainted beeing often out on hunting trips with his stout father. He wanted to see the strange object that dangled down the sky. Silently he closed the front door behind him and keeping cautiously an eye on every object in his vicinity he got on to the dark woods. While approaching the general area, where the mysterious flying object was heading to, he thought about the singular movement most contraire to all his experience of flying objects. It didn’t beat wings like a bird, nor had it a propeller like a plain, no, it moved more like a pendulum, which is been held fast at the top so that the mass at the end doesn’t gain on amplitude. He didn’t know nothing about aerodynamics, but perhaps even the best scientists at the pentagon, if they had been assembled at our little boy’s bedroom window to witness the unknown movement of this flying object, couldn’t explain this illogical movement.

>> No.11335741

>>11335508
I don't really follow.

>> No.11335743
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>>11335730
The little boy came to a slope whitin the quarters of his neighbour’s John. There he stood witness to the landing of a most spectaculiar aeroplane. It was shaped like a disc and had on it’s top a cockpit shaped like a hemisphere, which took about an 8th of the total diameter of this flying beast. He knew it to be a cockpit, because he had seen photographs of pilots in planes and how they looked out of a window while operating on a valve, and now he saw two bright green headed manikin with dark slanted eyes clutching at two enormous levers to steer the object to a safe landing. While the cockpit stood still, its body around it moved at a steady pace, so that its contours became to blurry for the little boy to distinguish. The first thing that came in the boys mind was to compare this flying object to the saucer he always used at breakfast. An ugly grey, bulky flying saucer and on top a snow dome at a sunny day. The next thing the boy knew, was that he started to float over the ground. He looked terrified over his head and saw helplessly, how a golden iris opened on the saucers bottom emitting an iridescent light cone on him. He couldn’t straggle against being pulled to the flying saucers bottom. In a minute he was gone and the unidentified flying object left the scenery and disappeared into the sky. Next day the daily herald carried this outrageous headline: ”Watch the skies! Space attacks!”

>> No.11335779

>>11335329
Meanwhile he's streaming on twitch or going to cons or giving lectures on some nonsense

>> No.11335795

>>11335741
I guess you’re just dumb, then

>> No.11335800

>>11335795
I know that. Life's been extra difficult because of it.

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>>11326841
Anybody read this book? I just got it
Is it autism or kino?

>> No.11336119

>>11335937
Both

>> No.11336251

>>11327046
where the hell did the stars my destination come from? seems like it came out of nowhere

>> No.11336285
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Hello, /lit/.

After several months of history books, I want to back to reading fantasy. I have heard some positive and some negative things about this series.
What are your main problems with it and does it decline in quality after the first book?

Thanks.

>> No.11336288

>>11336285
>quality
First is generally regarded as the worst by a large margin.

>main problems.
Too many characters, lack of focus.

>> No.11336295

>>11336288
>First is generally regarded as the worst by a large margin.
There is no such consensus

>> No.11336305

>>11336288
>>11336295

Hm.

I'm itching for mid/high-tier fantasy, not quite ASIOAF.
Should I give Donaldsons Covenant a try?

>> No.11336312

>>11336305
If you don't mind unsympathetic MCs it's pretty good. Some here are hung up on that though :3

>> No.11336336

>>11336312
I'll consider suggestions. Abercrombies The First Law?

>> No.11336358

>>11336295
https://www.reddit.com/r/Malazan/comments/4frixa/ranking_the_malazan_book_of_the_fallen_results/
Seems like you're right, only Dust of Dreams is ranked lower on average.
Reddit has a very big Malazan community
Both are generally rated as much lower than the rest of the series.

>>11336305
>mid/high-tier fantasy
What does this mean?
High fantasy but not too epic or something of medium/high quality?

Farseer
Discworld
Earthsea Cycle

Are all good.

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>>11336358
Since I'm anon, I can confess - I like ASOIAF quite a lot. Like, a lot.

I have read quite a bit of fantasy not considered ''mainstream'' (depending on who you ask), Coldfire Trilogy, Elric of Melniboné and Gormenghast are my favourites but ASIOAF tops them all. So about that whatever you will.

What do you think I'd enjoy? I do have Farseer trilogy in my unread PDF folder, I will start it today then.

But looking for more suggestions. Thank you all!

>> No.11336476

>avatar posts
>recommends grrm
>and female authors

>> No.11336485

>>11336476
Well then, sent me on the righteous path.

>> No.11336526

>>11336436
Just read something you already have in your backlog.
We can all give you nigh-endless amounts of recommendations.

Farseer is more down to Earth with a few main characters and their struggles.
Malazan is more "epic", loads and loads of characters, big world, big history.
Down to your preference.

Better to stop asking and start reading.

>> No.11336556

>>11327046
Bester said 'The Stars My Destination' is a redo of Dumbass' 'The Cook of Monkey Crisco.'

>> No.11336664

>>11336485
I am reading these web novels on "wuxia world"
Very much recommend them
It's like an anime but in words

>> No.11336709

>>11336358
>Reddit has a very big Malazan community
After noticing some extremely unusual posting patterns I've became highly suspicious of Reddit communities so I wrote a script that tracked peoples recommendations and found there's a largish group of posters who exclusively recommend and gush about Orbit authors. Shits weird yo.

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>>11332200
Finished VALIS this afternoon. I think I am going to continue on the trilogy, and start the Sutin biography this evening.

>Already done did:
Do Androids...
Confessions of a Crap Artist
Man in the High Castle
A Scanner Darkly
Ubik
VALIS

If any Dickheads wanna shout recs, please do. Definitely want to finish the VALIS trilogy, and want to read 'Flow My Tears..." Any direction from anons who have covered the terrain beyond that would be much appreciated.

>> No.11336758

>>11336436
>>11336305
>>11336312
Nine Princes in Amber by Roger Zelazny is pretty great sword & sorcery

Thomas Covenant was as asshole but it was his whining that made me nope out after book one.

>>11336709
I'm unsurprised. Just another reason for me to stay far away from /plebbit/

>> No.11336771

Anyone know of any fantasy set in a world full of magic but with a non-magical protagonist?

The couple I've read have the protag being a failed magic user who just whines until they finally get magic in the 2nd-3rd book

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Why does Neil Gaiman always seem to pop up everywhere on book blurbs? Does he even have time to read the billions of books he endorses?

>> No.11336781

>>11335937
It's alright but Pale Fire kinda does it better

>> No.11336784

>>11335329
Just following the George RR Martin template...

>> No.11336792

>>11336775
Yeah he's rich as fuck, his kids have grown up and only really writes kids books now.

He could easily read everything he endorses, especially if it's an author endorsement rather than a book specific one.

Hell Terry Pratchett used to endorse Oblivion mods and he was a prolific writer

>> No.11336809

>>11336336
Think of the slowest, most meandering book you've ever read. That book flew by compared to the First Law trilogy. I think when Abercrombie runs down to the corner store for a gallon of milk and a loaf of bread it must take him a minimum of three hours.

>> No.11336812

>>11335250
>i just read the 2nd book of kingkiller chronicle and im fucking mad at how bad it is compared to the 1st book
It took him like 10 years to sell the first book so he had time to do several revisions of it, then he put out the sequel in like two which explains the rapid decline in quality and why he's taking so long for the third

>> No.11336815

>>11336809
Bitch you need to read Dragonbone Chair if you think Abercrombie is slow

>> No.11336824

>>11336251
What do you mean where did it come from? Assuming everyone else is like me it's one of those books you've heard of but never bothered to read.

>> No.11336839

>>11336251
It's been mentioned here before, I got recc'd it like a month ago

>> No.11336843

>>11336812
Rothfuss said he already completed the series and gave publication dates. Book 3 was supposed to be 2010. I think he must be completely rewriting or he's stuck as fuck on some part of the rewrite. One more option, he's waiting to get picked up by a studio/cable network for GRRMBUCKS so he's purposely holding it back.

>> No.11336898

>>11336436
The original Conan stories by Howard.

>> No.11336906

>>11336728
Flow My Tears is good, but the ending is a little disappointing in some regards.

>> No.11336916

>>11336775
He probably spend all his free time either fucking or reading so I honestly believe he've read everything he endorses.

>> No.11336941

>>11336436
Who is that round face white meat?
Why are white women so delicious?

>> No.11336981
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11336981

Opinions?

>> No.11336987

>>11336843
He has pledged to not release until Donald Trump is impeached

>> No.11337007

>>11336843
I haven't read anything in the series but I'd hazard he could have gotten bored with the series and never wrote anything in the first place. Or can't figure out how to continue it. That's happened with several other authors I follow, the next book is "forthcoming" for years while they write a bunch of other stuff.

>> No.11337017

Reading the Deed of Paksenarrion and enjoying it. More military fantasy our there?

>> No.11337045

>>11337007
>while they write a bunch of other stuff.
Not this case, this guy wrote 2 novels total, and a couple novellas. To call him a writer is like calling Gordon Ramsay a mechanic because he fixed his car twice.

>> No.11337060

>>11336843
>Rothfuss said he already completed the series

no, he's a fraud and the 2nd book was a trainwreck

>> No.11337117

>>11337017
Fair warning, the two other books in the series are more about Paks becoming a paladin and dealing with PTSD. Still good though, but the focus changes.

Black Company is the typical recommendation, the author's other Instrumentalities of the Night series is mainly focused on a mercenary commander and is a pretty good fantasy pastiche of the crusades period Mediterranean with early gunpowder warfare and an impending ice apocalypse.

David Drake did a good one called Ranks of Bronze which is about a Roman legion that gets abducted by aliens because (IIRC) galactic law limits colonial conquerors to using the same tech level as the planet they're invading.

>> No.11337126

>>11336843
I remember him (or someone) saying the last book was twice as big as the first two together or some shit like that and that he is disagreeing on what to cut out and with the re-edits and shit.
I guess that's what happens when your first 2 books don't address the major questions the start of the first book says he will address and after 2 books you only cover a couple of years of the main character who is old and telling his life story.
It's going to end up filled with bits like the trial and sea journey "nothing worth telling happened despite it being a major undertaking and talking it up for an entire book"

>> No.11337131

>>11337117
>and dealing with PTSD.
fug
>David Drake did a good one called Ranks of Bronze
Sounds fun, thanks

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Man, what a disappointment. The charm from the first two books is complete gone Don't know why the author felt the need to make some huge crossover with his other books. The worst part is that everything in this book is nothing but a simulation created by the protagonist from his Otherlife series.

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>>11337017
>More military fantasy
Daniel Black is sort of like that. Though it's more of the engineering aspect.

>> No.11337182

>>11337162
>The worst part is that everything in this book is
That was already know. Didn't you read book 2? When they entered that "military base"? They opened a portal. It comes back again in Super Sales 2, when they see the portal being opened.

I suggest you read all his books, starting with other life, then wastes, then sales.

>> No.11337200

>>11337182
Forgot about that part. Still doesn't make it any less dumb. And I tried his other books but they're pretty shit so I have no intention of finishing them.

>> No.11337227

>>11337167
I read all of those except wild wasted, which I downloaded (future read)
Couldn't find a link in mobilism for Super Sales on Super Heroes, do you have it/them?

>> No.11337265

>>11337227
check #ebooks on irchaway.

>> No.11337270

>>11337265
irchighway* or on undernet. i mean they both have the same bots anyways.

>> No.11337307

>>11337270
Thanks, I used to use #bookz at undernet but the calypso bot kept banning me for no reason. This is very useful.

>> No.11337349

>>11337131
>fug

The author is a ex-Marine so it's dealt with reasonably.

>> No.11337409

What works of literary merit focus on robots that have lived for millenniums and have a fairly short memory but are still able to feel emotion?

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>nothing immediately pressing on the backlog other than chaos magick pdfs I grabbed off /x/ last year for funsies
Fuck me I don't know what to read right now. I'd like to find short story collections involving traveling large distances through space, or progression of technology on a long-term scale but everything has been fruitless thus far.

>>11337349
>can't understand PTSD unless you're in the military
How embarrassing.

>> No.11337795

>>11336981
I enjoyed the first trilogy quite a bit despite it being rather edgy at some points. Didn't finish the second trilogy as it wasn't complete at the time I read it but I remember it being a slow start and missing some of the wonder of the first novel.

>> No.11337880

>>11337570
>can't understand PTSD unless you're in the military
Explain how you made this leap from:
>The author is a ex-Marine so it's dealt with reasonably.

>> No.11337981

>Protag tests their ability by destroying every tree in a forest

leave trees alone, friggin authors

>> No.11338020

>>11337981
Name six ( 6 ) examples of this.

>> No.11338031

>>11337307
Could have been there IP address you were using. Once 4ch kept telling me I was lifebanned for cp

>> No.11338047

>>11338031
That'd be bad for me since I have a static IP. I hope I never piss a mod off.

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>>11336981

>> No.11338087

>>11338020
Any webnovel

>> No.11338094

>>11336288
>Too many characters, lack of focus.
This sounds like you never actually finished it.

>> No.11338096

>>11338087
doesn't happen in Worm which is the only webnovel anyone has read

>> No.11338147

>>11333293
It's uploaded around. And the author is here, yes.

>> No.11338161

>>11334874
A lot of times it's a crutch. You're stumbling blindly, then things seem familiar and you can follow the well worn path and find your way, encoding it in your own story et voila -- symbolism.

>> No.11338166

>>11334985
>>11327177
>gay kings
Shortest dynasty ever.

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>>11337307
>the calypso bot kept banning me for no reason
Were you using a web IRC client like mibbit? A lot of IRC channels are staffed by gatekeeping autists so a lot will ban by client. Using a proper but easy to use client like Hexchat can avoid this.

You can also get banned because you copied the string past the filename when downloading although I think they're no longer banning for this.

IP/nick bans are also p. common
https://transfer.sh/m4X7V/William_D_Arand_-_[Super_Sales_on_Super_Heroes_02]_-_Super_Sales_on_Super_Heroes-Book_2_(retail)_(azw3).rar

I highly suggest getting a MAM and a bibliotik acct too if you are able it's good on top of libgen, mobilism, irc and everything else

>> No.11338275

>>11338265
>spoon feeding that lazy fuck
>doesn't help me when I ask
Kys you piece of shit

>> No.11338290

>>11338265
>Were you using a web IRC client like mibbit?
Probably, then I switched to Hexchat but the damage was done. Permaban static IP.
Thank for the link, I already got access to #ebooks thanks to another kind anon so I downloaded them
>I highly suggest getting a MAM and a bibliotik acct
Thanks, will do.

>>11338275
Maybe /b/ or /v/ is more of your style, where helping anons is frowned upon. Go.

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>>11338290
>Permaban static IP
There are a few websites like http://www.vpngate.net/en/ which should have still have IRC unbanned vpns since I don't think IRC is used as much as it used to be.

>>11338275
What?

>> No.11338528

Are there any good fantasy web serials?

>> No.11338659

>Second Super Sales book is easy as shit to find
>First is nowhere to be found outside of buying it

>> No.11338672

>>11338659
this. someone needs to pomf all the sffg-core self published books

>> No.11338704

>>11338659
its on #ebooks, though the epub version of book 1 was mislabelled and in fact was book 2

>> No.11338733

>>11338659
I just downloaded them; read the thread

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>people only help when they feel it's convenient
>is told to go to b

>> No.11339229

god, I must be getting retarded. I have literally no idea where the hell I got the idea that Skitter and Jack had the same shard

>> No.11339416

Is Titus Groan a pleb filter or is it really just this boring?

>> No.11339530

>>11339416
There's no denying that it's slow but it's also a pleb filter.

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11339551

I need Blindopraxia halp, please!

I was reading the recent Watts AMA hurr durr leddit, yeah fantastic and some sperg was was hosing him down with spaghetti about some plot-points.

He said something in his word-salad to the order of the events in Echopraxia calling the entirety of Blindsight into question, like it never actually happened.

Did I miss this revelation or is that guy just going all deepest lore?

>> No.11339584

>>11339551
Watts is a cheeky cunt, he's probably trolling.

>> No.11339609

>>11339551
are his other book filled with that evolutionary garbage like blindsight ?

>> No.11339617

>>11339609
The fuck is wrong with that?

>> No.11339624

>>11339617
Is shit, character speeding all his time being, wow i was a cavemen so now i want so sit in the dark. And all that literately every time he thinks, its retarded.

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>>11339584
Naw, it was the sperg saying that.

>>11339609
I dunno, probably. I like evo-psych poop and also abnormal neurology or whatever... well, I like it now.

>> No.11339705

>>11339624
Yes, but has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>> No.11339731
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>>11339705
Yes. The answer was always yes.

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>>11339731
based edposter

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>>11339741
Jesus, is this one even edited or is that the man's cranium?

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>>11339747
no editing, this is the natural power of the phenotype

>> No.11339764

>>11339753
When Ed was brought into this world, his already adult-sized cranium split his poor mother like a chopping maul.

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Does Safehold Series by Weber get any better after first book? I find the premise entertaining, and worldbuilding quite decent, but characters are one dimensional to a degree that boggles my mind.

>> No.11339845

>>11339764
He's a reverse Pallas Athena

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>>11339753

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Floornight was one h*ck of a ride, I didn't like the fact that many of the interesting elements never got resolved or used in an interesting way. I mean I know what the writing process was but still.

Anyone else here read it?

>> No.11339932

>>11339676
Some people on reddit and automatically here too are absolutely incapable of staying on point or not going into the 3deep5me spectrum.

>> No.11340013

>>11326841
What does the "likelihood of satisfaction" scale on the selected sf chart mean? Is it just a way of sorting them from better to worse? If so, is there a point of doing that to sets of five books that you are recommending anyway?

>> No.11340024

>>11339863
coneheads point and click adventure made either by daedelic or pendulo when?

>> No.11340242

>>11339774
No, it gets much worse.

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>>11339416
It's shit. And an e/lit/ist filter. If you pretend to like it you belong in outer lit.

>>11339530
Leave >>>/lit/

>> No.11340284

>>11340242
I wish I didn't believe you. But thanks for the answer I guess.

Well, I'll still read some more of it, just in case it remains enjoyable, and then ill go back to looking for something to read.

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>>11340278
I see that you're at it again, trying to convince us that SF&F can only be brainlet tier stories written to entertain the lowest common denominator.

>> No.11340319

>>11327046
>it's a tie
>with Roadside Picnic
>again
Fucking hell.

>> No.11340320

New Thread
>>11340317
>>11340317
>>11340317
>>11340317

>> No.11340328

>>11340309
I see that you're at it again /lit/, trying to convince SFFG users to read pseudo brainlet tier stories written to pretend that it's something more than trash.