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I would call myself smarter than the average person, or I am at least not a brainlet. Reading books has never been one of my greatest interests. I'm not bad at reading, not at all, I just happen to find more interesting platforms that give me more enjoyment than books (e.g. Cinema and Vidya). I am, however, willing to start somewhere. I'd like to start reading philosophy since it has always interested me, but I have no idea where to start.

Suggest anything you like.

>> No.11322829

for philosophy read anthologies/try not to read source material for a while

>> No.11322844

>>11322829
Such as?

>> No.11322859

>>11322803
Start by reading books you like by good authors, then move onto Greeks and philosophy

>> No.11322889

>>11322859
I've seen a lot of movies. What are some top-tier books that great movies are based on?

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>>11322803
Well, since you are into vidya and movies try watching more philosophical games and see if they interest you. I recommend SOMA, Bioshock, Psychonauts, MGS2 (yeah i know on one wants to play as raiden), The Stanley Parable, and dark souls in the video game catagory. I'm not much of an expert on movies though so you might have to ask elsewhere about that.
If any of those games have interested you and you liked them then use the /lit/ philosophy guide https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/edit?usp=sharing

>> No.11322929

You will grow out of vidya as you get older. You can only play slightly different twists on the exact same games so many times before getting bored to tears. Half the time I play vidya these days I play single player indie.

I like Dostovesky if you want something heavier, and most of the stuff kids get assigned in high school is alright if you want something lighter.

After reading a bit like others say if you want to make reading western literature into a serious hobby you want to start with the greeks because they're the foundation upon which everything else is built. You talked about enjoying cinema, reading stuff starting from the Greeks will give you a deeper comprehension and appreciation for film, because you will be able to understand the literary and historical references the filmmakers are making. It also gives you an appreciation for how pussified and SJW infested modern cinema often is.

>> No.11322948

If you want to start with philosophy specifically I really would recommend just starting with The Greeks for comprehension because many key philosophical figures either ARE greek or make greek references heavily (Nietzsche). There should be some reading guides around here.

If that sounds terribly boring to you, it's really not impossible to just dive into the greek pre-socratics or the last days of socrates or something like that straight up. It's just some stuff will woooosh over your head.

Personally I'm spending half my time reading in historical order, and half my time reading classics and more contemporary lit. Cinema makes a LOT of references to classics and contemporary lit and these books are simply less difficult to get into and worth reading anyways.

>> No.11322961

>>11322803
philosophy: phaedo (short text by plato on the soul and afterlife, happens at socrates' trial)
fiction: dubliners by joyce (read the story 'Araby', or 'A Painful Case' first)

>> No.11322996

>>11322889
I mean you can literally read books and novellas and short stories that were made into movies, although I often find it boring to hear about the same story twice.

It is absurd how much film can steal from the classics though or drop references to the classics. There are so many movies which essentially just steal the plot of Hamlet like The Lion King. Many of the tropes seen in film came from literature.

>> No.11323056

>>11322803
Read something you think you’ll disagree with. Instead of passively accepting what the author says, you’ll analyze every sentence for any errors in reasoning. This is what you should do with every thing you read, but we tend to choose books that we can just sit back and feel like we’re learning something, when we could be filling our heads with nonsense. Brainstorm some of your strongest beliefs and find authors, preferably before 1950, with the opposite belief and try to understand their books. Either you’ll disagree, and by doing so improve your ability to discern reasoning, or you’ll change your mind and you’ll be motivated to read more to see what other beliefs you have that could be wrong as well.

>> No.11323697

>>11322803
all of plato