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>Albertus Magnus constructed a fully functioning automaton/android
>Thomas Aquinas found it to be such an affront to humanity that he destroyed it
WHAT THE HOLY FUCK HOW IS THIS FOOTNOTE NOT TALKED ABOUT MORE?

There was literally a fully functioning android in the Middle Ages and one of the most famous Doctors of the Church destroyed it because of the dilemma of transhumanism it proposed. What else are the Catholics hiding from us?

>> No.11272795

Where can i read about it?

>> No.11272818

>>11272783
>fully functioning android
damn, these niggas had sex robots as early as 1480?

>> No.11272830

It's actually called a homunculus OP.

>> No.11272833

>>11272783
We can only hope we get our very own Tommy Aqua to step up the plate this time around

>> No.11272834

I need more information.

>> No.11272847

>>11272783
This does sound like enlightenment propaganda but considering the levels of stupidity of the medieval church I wouldn't be too surprised

>> No.11272853

>>11272783
This is very reddit-tier, fedora tipping, but I gotta say that a citation is needed.

>> No.11272856

>>11272783
Magnus also found the philosopher's stone. Why don't we talk about that more?

>> No.11272916

>>11272856
Because the alchemical works attributed to Magnus are falsely sourced, they were later creations. Magnus' only alchemical work, 'On Minerals', had only scant references to the alchemical power of minerals (though he does mention having witnessed Transmutation of stone to gold).

OP's thing is also complete bullshit given that Magnus famously defended Aquinas' life's works as being properly orthodox when they were reviewed by the Dominican order after Aquinas' death.

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>>11272783
> Pfff... Check out Gaybertus Fagnus over there building a wooden snowman thinking it will come to life. Better destroy it before he makes a fool of himself in front of everyone and gets killed for heresy.

Tommy A. saved the day once more.

>> No.11272987

>>11272973
based Tommy A. poster

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>>11272973
Damn. Is there a theologian and philosopher more bro-tier than the Big A?

>> No.11273003

>>11272973
>baptized in the holy sip

>> No.11273016

Albertus Magnus is just a modern Hermes Trismagistos.

>> No.11273027

>>11272973
Omg this has to be shopped right? lol

>> No.11273031

Post your Virgin Magnus Chad Aquinas memes now

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>>11272783
By "android" they basically mean a Zoltar box not an actual robot.

>> No.11273102

>>11272783
Propably just like Olimpia in "The Sandman" by E.T.A Hoffmann.

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>>11273102
Wow, as I see, Sir you are a gentleman and a scholar of refindes taste.

Sadly I think americans do not own enough Weltschmerzromantik to understand a work like this.

>> No.11273235

>>11272783
Post pic of the footnote

>> No.11273259

>>11272853
>>11273235
>Albertus Magnus constructs a complete brazen man, so cunningly contrived as to serve him for a domestic. At This was at the time that Thomas Aquinas was living with him. The household trouble arising from the excessive garrulity of this simulacrum grew so intolerable for it was incessantly making mischief among the other inmates that Thomas, unable to bear it any longer, took a hammer and broke the troublesome android to pieces. This reverend father, known among his contemporaries as the “seraphic doctor,” was not without experience in the mysterious craft (Draper, 1901, p116).

>> No.11273277

>>11273027
no, the boomers are out of control with the sip atm, and thats a good thing

>> No.11273292

>>11272853
>>11273235
>>11273259
>that for the space of thirty years he employed all his knowledge as a magician and astrologer to construct, out of metals carefully chosen under appropriate planetary influences, an automaton endowed with the power of speech, and which served him as an infallible oracle, replying plainly to every kind of question which could possibly be proposed to it. This was the celebrated Android, which was destroyed by St. Thomas under the impression that it was a diabolical contrivance (Waite, 1888, p58-59).

>> No.11273302

what did the word android even mean to people back then, did it even exist?

>t.brainlet

>> No.11273702

>>11273292
>>11273302
This anon has a point, what did they meant to say in today’s terms when he says android

>> No.11273718

>>11272783
>What else are the Catholics hiding from us?


The Chronovisor hidden under the vatican

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronovisor

>In the early 1960s, priest Ernetti began to study the writings of François Brune, himself a Roman Catholic priest and author. Ernetti allegedly ended up helping Father Brune construct the machine as members of a team which included twelve world-famous scientists. He identified two of them as Enrico Fermi and Wernher von Braun. The chronovisor was described as a large cabinet with a cathode ray tube for viewing the received events and a series of buttons, levers, and other controls for selecting the time and the location to be viewed. It could also locate and track specific individuals. According to its inventor, it worked by receiving, decoding and reproducing the electromagnetic radiation left behind from past events. It could also pick up the audio component or sound waves emitted by these same events.

>Ernetti lacked hard evidence for these claims. He said that he had observed, among other historical events, Christ's crucifixion and photographed it as well

>> No.11273736

My guess is that he made a sort of automaton like the ones in chuck e cheese but it was a kind of wind up doll. while that is pretty ingenious for the middle ages i imagine it was creepy as all like, like those model dolls moving on it's own but the size of an adult

>> No.11273742

>>11273718
>1960s post war Europe
>religion and traditionalism are fleeting
>hatch an idea
>guys there’s a box in the basement that proves the crucifiction of Christ happened
Literally Jon smith/ Mormon/ seer stone tier

>> No.11273750

It was most likely he had created something similar to those robotic country bear jamboree things at disney land. An animatronic puppet.

>> No.11273787

>>11273702
You should also bear in mind the very strong possibility that the book cited is full of shit.

>> No.11273837

Who would win: Kant AI or Android Hunter Thomas?

>> No.11273871

>>11272973
Absolutely based

>> No.11273888

>>11273787
christians don't lie

>> No.11273896

>>11272973
If that happened, it was probably this.

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>> No.11273907

>>11273888
lol

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>> No.11274343

No wonder they called Aquinas a "dumb ox."

>> No.11274384

>>11273742
well, the crucifixion of Jesus did happen.