/lit/ - Literature

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If you read in English, make sure your version is the 2011 translation.
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Anything with cute/lewd Monster-girls?

Any decent books about devils you can recommend?

>>11253249
I literally cannot enjoy dragons anymore, they've been subverted as a genuine threat far too often.

>>11253249
dragonlance

>>11253299
Paradise Lost.

How is the Night's Dawn trilogy?

Are there any fantasy stories with a programming-like magic system that gets used in creative ways? Hard mode: also decent prose and characters.

>>11253249
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7RcG4QgB5k

>>11253299
demons of astlan

>>11253482
is a shit

i wanted to find out the plot of the nights dawn trilogy to see if i wanted to try reading it again;

>The story is divided in many threads, based on primary, secondary and tertiary characters. These delve deeply into the rich and complex texture of the Universe providing a great sense of verisimilitude, also exploring some of Hamilton's darker themes.

thanks wikipedia

Why read fantasy books when you can watch anime?

>>11253678
They're totally different in pacing and storytelling, as well as tone. Many people here do both.

Why is pic related so praised?

>>11253681
Yeah, anime does tend to tell a story rather than just worldbuild; that's a good point.

>>11253684
Because it’s required intro to the “God-Emperor of Dune”, aka the best sci-fantasy book since the invention of writing

AFFC gets an undeserved amount of hate imo. I can't stand Jon and Daenerys, so their exclusion didn't bother me at all. I always found the politics of King's Landing and Westeros to be FAR more interesting than the dragons and ice zombies. The gay fantasy shit really drags the whole series down now that I'm thinking about it. The only real low points of this book are the Iron Islands and Dorne chapters. They have the rare distinction of sucking in the books and the show.

>The tercera cleared ter throat

Dammit Martha, why'd you have to do this to me?

>>11253691
>anime does tend to tell a story rather than just worldbuild
Isn't that inherent with visual mediums?

>>11253678
Different stories.

>>11253678
For me watching Anime is like drinking through one of those tiny coffee stirrer straws, tortuously slow. I can read much faster.

>>11253678
Because I don't like the archetypes/tropes of the average anime so I don't bother anymore.

>>11253834
This is why I watch at 1.5 speed so I can just read the captions. I go back to normal for especially good or visually interesting animes.

>>11253678
I've already watched Record of Lodoss War and Slayers.

STOP TALKING ABOUT ANIME
THIS IS A BOARD OF CULTURE

>>11253255
Loudly

>>11253900
But Space Dandy is high culture

anime is abolute trash. i can't believe anyone over the age of 12 actually enjoys it.

>>11253900
considering /sffg/ is the only part of /lit/ where you can even have discussions without some high and mighty fag telling you that you lack culture id hazard to say that i dont even want culture. culture is what ruined /v/ and /a/.

>>11253946
me too but there is a limit
anime belong to /a/

>>11253978
most animes have their origin in light novels.
which are in fact books.

>>11253993
Shitty books, but books all the same.

>>11253993
anon stop
you really shouldnt consider them books
they are so fucking small
i mean holy shit
the biggest light novel is very short compared to western novels

>>11253303
That good? I just passed it up at a second hand store because it looked like YA, but I'll go back if it's worth it.

Unrelated, but I have been curious about this for awhile: does the same person make this thread Everytime or do we sort of take turns?

>>11254027
We're supposed to take turns, but there's one sad faggot that does lot's of them cause everyone be lazy.

Alright I powered through Green; I fucking did it. The last 5% or so was actually a bit interesting. What a clumsy fucking book, though. It had no idea what it wanted to be, 50% YA/50% adult, and Green wouldn't stop puking on herself. I recommend it to anyone looking to write a book as a case study in what not to do. Jay Lake clearly knew how to write decent prose (not dialogue) but had no idea how to write young characters, and then he wrote a story in first person about a young person.

>>11253678
Why watch anime when you could listen to music?

>>11253993
>most
lol
>animes

>>11254027
its pretty good
raistlin/caramon is the high point tho
if you like dndlike(adventurers traveling trough the world to stop an ancient evil) then you can dive in

>>11254027
Just read Throne of Glass already.

>>11254027
I made this thread because we were close to falling of the board. This is only the 3d time I've been OP.

>>11253993
Japanese light novels suck ass though. Even the ones with interesting subjects are utterly unreadable. I've tried to read some that a few of my favorite manga are based on and I had this feeling of being half drowsy and half wanting to throw up whenever I got a few chapters in. With noted exception being light novels that hentai manga is based on, those work for some reason, despite being written in a similar way. They work in set pieces instead of a progression. No wonder it's easy to make them into manga.

>>11253678
I don't read fantasy books or sci-fi, jrpgs do it much better. Why am i here? Just lurking.

Any fantasy series that has a similar aesthetic to the Xenoblade series?

>>11254150
> I had this feeling of being half drowsy and half wanting to throw up whenever I got a few chapters in.

That's how I feel with visual novels.

What's the best Asimov book, in your opinion?

I bought a compilation book of short stories by him a couple years ago and thoroughly enjoyed them.

Can someone recommend me a novel where some retired super-badass finds himself dragged into action again, but in a really round-about way as in no one knows who he is, resulting in "oh shit!" situations both for allies and enemies. No excessive edge or wankery though, it's best if no one really tells us who he is and we just piece it together.

>>11253441
ehhh. interesting ideas, but like a lot of PFH, it gets too bogged down in side trips and boring characters while not moving the plot forward enough

>>11253993
The problem with Light Novels is that the vast majority are isekai garbage with boring self-insert protagonists. You can put in as many cute anime girls as you want and hire the best artist you could possibly find to draw said anime girls, but it's never going to improve the atrocious writing.

>Protagonist is stupid

what an interesting trope

>>11254150
Some of that probably has to do with the shit translations most of those get though. You can't trust anything amateur.

>>11254279
No.

>>11254020
They're physically small. Their word count is highly variable, but the average is about 50k translated words, which is standard novel length in the west.

>>11254150
>I had this feeling of being half drowsy and half wanting to throw up whenever I got a few chapters in
Wtf anon, I get exactly like this too when I try to read light novels. I wonder if this is a thing.

>>11254434
50k is novella length. 80k is a novel

>>11254334
Actually good ones:
Spice and Wolf
Konosuba
uuuuh the spider one?

>>11254150
Wait, what hentai manga is based on light novels? Thought serialized h-magazines were mostly original stories, unless you mean doujins, but there's doujins of almost anything.

>>11254484
>Spice and Wolf
Cardboard cut outs talk about economics.

>Konosuba
Isekai garbage pretending it's not isekai garbage under a veil of humor and being "self-aware"

This tread is absolute chaser atm just to let you know.

>>11254498
>pretending it's not isekai garbage

Never happened, not every parody has to shit all over everything to make it's point, author is even good friends with the re:zero author. You might just be a humorless faggot.

>>11254262
His short stories are his best work, really. Caves of Steel is fun, though, and Foundation is classic future history.

>>11254531
>Humorless faggot

No, it's just not fucking funny and the jokes are predictable shit you'd find in an abridged series.

>>11254484
>Konosuba
>good
You cannot be serious.

>>11254545
Humor is one of the more subjective things and a lot of people disagree with you, don't have anything to discuss there. Just calling out your other bullshit.

>>11254555
>Humor is subjective but I'm going to call out your bullshit on you finding it not funny despite humor being subjective

Where do I go next if I enjoyed Red Rising?

>>11254584
reddit

>>11254577
That part of the post was rhetoric, just an insult since you seemed like a faggot. Stuff like that gets confusing on the internet but can't really do anything about it.

>>11254584
them thighs.

>>11254589
This is the kind of comedic genius that keeps me from ending it all, thanks brother

>>11254592
So you had nothing to say and wanted to reply because I called your favorite garbage garbage.

>>11254584
N-nisu imagu

>>11254600
Yeah, let's conveniently ignore the other 80% of the reply and focus on the part where I insult you, whatever helps you sleep at night, faggot.

>>11254599
No problem, friend. <3
Anyways, if you've like Red Rising you'll _love_ Throne of Glass. It's basically Red Rising in a medieval setting and with a beautiful female protag.

>>11254618
This sounds like I'm being memed

>>11254618
And its written by a magnet come longitude!

>>11254469
Except it's not. 80k is probably the lower barrier for the fantasy genre, but for normal novels, 45-75k is average. Plenty of editors even specify no longer than a certain length, usually around 90-100k words.

>>11254622
No, you are most definitely not!
Sarah Maas graduated top of her class with Magna Cum Laude. Her Throne of Glass series has won many awards. Just give it a try, please?

>>11254636
Does she get more money if its bought in ebook form, audiobook, or hard copy ??

The worst part of any of these litrpg stories is that they talk about playing video games as if it isn't a fucking embarassment

>>11254655
Doesn't really matter. She is literally swimming in money because of how good her books are.

>>11254666 (checked)
You're wrong.

>>11254492
>stories
There's not a lot of a "story" in most of them to be anything. But it is a trend. I guess it's super easy and cheap to do over there or something? If they see a pornographic light novel with a big following, they turn it into a manga, if that sells, they turn that into hentai or JAV. It's just that there is only a handful of groups translating written smut.

I need your help folks, can you rate the books and say what is lacking/what can be taken out from my reading list?
Here is the Fantasy list https://pastebin.com/LeNE4ShD
and here is the Science Fiction https://pastebin.com/1ftBmW67

>>11254666
Nothing wrong with playing games occasionally. But when you're so pathetic that you escape from reality not by playing games yourself but by reading about a fictional character playing games, that's what's embarassing

>>11254691
Throne of Glass series is missing.

>>11254712
I actually have it on my sight. Where would it fit and are the sequels worth it? I mean, what kind of fantasy would Throne of Glass fit if you had to put a label on it? I know is about assassins and that there are surprises in it, but haven't read it yet.

>>11254742
I'm just memeing brah. The book is shit. I haven't read the sequels.
The book is YA aimed at cucks and girls. It isn't about assassins, it is actually about how the beautiful and witty protag has to choose between two love interests.

>>11254262
first 3 foundation books are fantastic. his robot series are whodunits with a human detective teaming up with a robot also great

>>11254279
Jerry Pournelle does a lot of sci-history.

King David's Spaceship.
old rebel leader gets sent on a mission to bring back tech from a Bronze Age planet so his Victorian era planet can make its own spaceships.

Janissaries
during the cold war US soldiers are kidnapped by aliens and taken to a planet to grow space cannabis that only grows for 10 years every 600, every 600 years the aliens bring an new group of humans to act as farmers resulting in US soldiers having to deal with 800 ad Scottish tribes men and 200 ad Romans

The last wish

>>11254858
Sword of destiny

>>11254870

who /malazan/ here?

>>11254884

The Throne of Glass meme is pretty stupid. I'm sure one or two retards fall for it every now and again, making Maas all the richer. We should meme good books to promote more good books being made. Instead we cum loudly about a vapid whore who has to self insert into her love triangle drivel, going so far as to put a photoshopped look a like of herself on the cover. If you want a great example of literary fantasy, look no further than Sanderson

>>11254691
I don't understand why you put Gateway under generational ship and not under alien artifacts.

>>11254891
my nigger

>>11254895

>>11254917

>>11254891
I promise I'll start Gardens of the Moon soon. Its not like i got intimidated from the first page or anything.

>>11254904
>We should meme good books
Do it

>>11254907
You are probably right, I did the change. Thanks.

>>11254928

>>11254904
>We should meme good books
That is what I am trying with my lists.

>>11254942
Dandelion on the left.

>>11254949
>lists
That is why you are failing.

>>11254955

>>11254484
The only LN I ever enjoyed is Overlord, and I really enjoyed it. Fuck whatever arbitrary measurement of quality people have for novels, I enjoyed this edgy nip powerfantasy way more than I ever enjoyed GRR Martin's american one.

>>11254957
I disagree, see, I am making categories so people can get what they want in relation to other known good books. But we don't live in a perfect world, of course this is hard.

I only read sci fi but I want some engaging fantasy series. What's a must read besides Botns and lotr?

>>11254976
Have you had a taste of our lord and saviour Kellhus Anasûrimbor yet?

>>11254976
just reread Narnia, very enjoyable

Wheel of time, way of kings, Malazan

>>11254627
No.
http://www.writersdigest.com/editor-blogs/guide-to-literary-agents/word-count-for-novels-and-childrens-books-the-definitive-post

>>11254961
Some illustrations. There are lots of them.

>>11255008

>>11255015

>>11253691
>anime does tend to tell a story
pffft hahahahaha

>>11255030

>>11255041
Maybe not all, maybe not even most of them, hell, you can be sure this decade is short on the plot side, but some lost gems exist like Rurouni Kenshin.

>>11255062
He's supposed to have a reverse blade so that picture is bad.

>>11255084
it does look reversed and he's laying the flat across his wrist

>>11255084
Wait, why? Nowhere in the picture indicates where the blunt edge is.

>>11254691
Reading that pic with this as background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZvhXs5Bx3Q

>>11254767
>Between two
You clearly haven't read the third book.

>>11254742
If you have a boring job, read it.

>>11254970
Power fantasies are fun.
But most fun for me are the ones with a sad ending, especially the ones with an extremely OP protag but still powerless to actually accomplish anything.

read my book

>>11254992
>>11255002
Will do, thanks

>>11254709
Right. I can appreciate trashy power fantasies if they're executed well, but fucking "playing a video game" is just like a anti-power fantasy. It'd be like if Demolition Man ended with some dude pulling a Oculus Rift off their face and going "Wow those graphics were SO REAL!" to the camera.

>>11255062
>Rurouni Kenshin

Anon I've got some bad news.

>>11255142
>But most fun for me are the ones with a sad ending, especially the ones with an extremely OP protag but still powerless to actually accomplish anything.

That's what I've liked about the Poor Man's War series so far. The protagonist is just some kid who joined the military to clear his education debts. His reward for being a big damn action hero is PTSD, dead friends, medals he doesn't care about, a lack of personal relationships because of how chaotic his life is, people trying to use him, etc.

>>11255092
>>11255096
The concave side on a reverse katana would be the sharp one

>>11254584
The other color-based discrimination dystopia with plots, rebellion and betrayal: Shades of Grey by Jasper Fforde. It's actually great.

>>11254891
I will reread this series some day. Getting through it once was just such a huge ordeal.

>>11255610
is it worth it?

>>11255618
yes. its genuinely heartbreaking to see what some of the characters have to go through

>>11254691
>tons of /x/
>vampire hunter d
>horror doesn't belong fantasy
>new age doesn't belong in fantasy
>anime doesn't belong in fantasy
>too much riverworld
>too much ian banks
>too much lovecraft
>all the riverworld series
>all the hyperion series
>children's picture books includes chapter books
The role of editor is to look at material with a critical eye but it looks like you've just compiled a bunch of recommendations without knowing what they are and their actual worth. Like Dhalgren for instance. Technically, it's "good" but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone unless they're super weird, ridiculously intelligent, or a fucking hipster.

>>11255720
Any coherent suggestion?

>>11255711
sounds like a 10/10. I should go hurry up with Wolfhound Century or I'll never get to it

>>11255142
>Andre Norton
Read a lot of her books as a kid. Is it just me, or were they shockingly mild and unexciting?

>>11255720
There is no manga in there. What are you talking about?

>>11253694
Can I just read God Emperor after the first one? I don't want to read the subpar sequels.

>>11255618
I'd say yes. It's something that I'm very glad I got to experience reading for the first time.

>>11255720
>too much ian banks
>too much lovecraft
4u

>>11255756
I liked the Time Traders. Maybe now it doesn't seem very original and exciting now but I think it was good for the time. I think they are directed toward younger readers anyway.

>>11255618
I'll read it after I finish with Ada Palmer's series (I wish these were better books, but meh, I'm almost done)

>>11255762
no, you need to see Paul's fall and Leto's birth and ascension to godhood

>>11255787
Nah I'm good then

>>11255720
Thank you for the suggestions. Not sure to cut so much, I know is a bit broad but I like to be open to literary experiences.

>>11255799
God Emperor is worth it

>mfw people near me have a mental definition of "cyberpunk" that wouldn't include The Gernsback Continuum

>>11255720
>>tons of /x/
You know their stories made it to Tv shows and movies not to mention they have fame on the Internet. They are even more successful than /lit/. The irony.

>>11255867
What is so good about it?

>>11254622
Reading Red Rising is a meme, what do you expect?

>>11255618
Only if your time is worthless.

>>11254691
>The Picture of Dorian Gray
>etc
How is that list even fantasy?

>>11255886
it's like a perfectly-formed argument against science-fiction futurism, and it captures the ennui of living in the future and still pining for the old visions that the real future overwrote
it's one of the most timeless and perennially relevant Gibson works

>>11254904

>>11255924

>>11255928
Not sure I get it, did you read the novel?

>>11255924
Anyone who posts on 4chan does not have valuable time.

>>11255867
>>11255937
Is included in the Burning Chrome.

>>11255999
great series

I am afraid to read the sequels of Dune. Can they be skipped directly to God Emperor or they are critical and left a void if not read?

>>11256168
No, see >>11255787

>>11256185
Goddamit.

>>11254691
I have some suggested additions

cyberpunk:
Vurt by Jeff Noon
Software by Rudy Rucker

sci-fi:
Sewer, Gas, and Electric by Matt Ruff
Eon by Greg Bear
Red Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson

fantasy YA:
The Book of Three by Lloyd Alexander
The Phantom Tollbooth
Narnia

fantasy:
Nine Princes in Amber by Roger Zelazny
Last Call by Tim Powers
Wizard of Earthsea by LeGuin
The Last Unicorn

>>11256168
They're not that bad, honestly.

>>11256210

>>11256218
>Red Mars
>a hundred pages in
Do these people get any less annoying as the story progresses?
Is there a story?
Does it progress?

Fantasy needs more MILFs. Especially those harem fantasy stories. It's always monster girls and whatnot. Why not throw in some oyakodon action?

>>11256218
Thank you, I'll look into this.

>>11256240
Many just die off.
There is some story nearing the end of the book, most of it is terraforming onanism.
Technically it does.

>>11256240
Frank is an asshole and Boone is a goody two shoes boy scout and Maya is overly emotional. Shit and plot will definitely hit the fan if you want to keep reading but it's not a fast book.

>>11256240
>Is there a story?
A bit?
Still most what i got out of it is "first world problems in space"
I dropped it after the first book, there are huge spurts in which some plot developemnt happens but for most part it feels like pointless filler
Also fucking hate that for a book that wants to be hard s-f the author keeps introducing magic "solve it all" inventions every time he needs to dig himself out a story hole

KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE! KILL SCARPE!
when will you finish the series you fucking bitch

Man I'm feeling incredibly disconnected from the fantasy fandom lately; I don't understand why I can't stand Malazan or Abercrombie even though I liked Moorcock and The Black Company.

Next Cradle book when ??

>>11256649
There's plenty of other series out there, why are those two such a big deal?

>>11256649
It's actually better to develop your own tastes instead of following others. Just don't become contrary for the sake of being different.

>>11256853
This. Find books that suit your interests and eventually you'll meet people who share that interest. Don't feign interest in books to please the people around you, it's shallow and does you no credit.

>>11255940
About Howl, was it anything like the animated adaption or have the Japs fucked it as hard as they did Earthsea?

>>11256853
This is it. I can't hold it back any longer. I read Shadow of the Torturer and I'm tired of hiding my feelings about it.

Fuck Jéane Wolfé. Fuck his oilpaint prose. Fuck his nonsense world. Fuck Severian and his lame personality and his "unreliable narration". Fuck Thecla (literally), that cunt Agia, and that worthless cunt Dorcas. Fuck all the scenes of Severian doing fuck all. Fuck the dumb flower battle with Agia's retarded brother. Fuck the clown crew and their shitty play at the end. Fuck this dumb book. I hate it and don't care if you fags call me a brainlet with no taste. Fuck the Autarch too, whoever that fag is.

>>11256649
Do you hate all of Abercrombie or just some? I despise his endings, and I though his Half universe is meh, but the wacky adventures of Ninefingers the murderous berserker and Bayaz the evil powerhungry shit are fun enough.

>>11256960

>>11256960
t. brainlet with no taste

>>11256662
realistically 7-12 months if hes not working on a different series

>>11256960
Severain's personality being lame is the only one I'll give you.

>>11257272
>He wouldn't fuck Thecla

>>11254691
Explain the screencap. OP wrote that and referred to writing it as "ran a game?"

>>11257420
Do you know about RPGs?

>>11256649
Malazan is average. Abercombie is shit. Welcome home. Read Gene Wolfe.

>>11256949
I read the book before I watched the movie. I was quite hyped for the movie and it was a huge disappointment, the movie is decent as a standalone but it does not reflect the novel at all.

>>11256960
>Fuck Thecla (literally)
One the list of what most fans will never understand.

>>11257316
He did fuck Thecla. It's a minor plot point in the later books.

>>11255756
I like them because of that slow comfy vibe. Maybe it's just nostalgia from middle school though.

>>11257473
vaguely, but I thought it was just a short story he presented in thread form

>>11257544
bought it though

>>11257546
There is a lot that could've have happened in that story, as the OP says he skipped several parts. RPGs are like templates for stories, infinite possibilities. The RPG scene is huge and has many systems, all inspired by different themes. Transhuman Space, Cyberpunk 2020, Vampire The Masquerade, all cool stuff if only for the background or world building. It really is good fantasy and sci-fi

>>11257529
You seem to have missed >Fuck Thecla (literally)
So your saying you wouldn't

>>11257544
I've seen this posted before, but I still don't understand what this is in reference to, or why I should care.

>>11257586
So someone gives an outline and then... what?

>>11257648
Basically, the system gives you the setting, the players make/control the protagonists (PCs), and the game master (GM) makes/controls the other characters. The plot is set up by the system/GM, but where it goes from there is driven by player choices, ideally.

>>11257648
Is a lot more complex than that, is an exercise in continuous story making from the player and the dungeon master (the guy in charge of inventing adventures for to the other players). It depends on the system but you start with a sheet with certain attributes and background story for your character, the dungeon master usually has a story and similar sheets about enemies and others prepared to work for the duration of the game. The sheets are used to calculate actions as if were stuff like the reach of a character's arm, the strength, even mental stats. For example, if a conversation is crucial they do the same as if were a battle and they throw a dice to calculate if the character can outsmart another character in the story. You have to understand that anything can happen. I've seen rulebooks that cover really really well topics like weapons, vehicles, magic, or even biology.

>>11257634
just a funny picture nerd

>>11257680
>>11257689
So where does this all take place? Chats or IRL or what? Genuinely interested.

>>11253451
Wheel of Time series.

>>11254352
No, the translations are autistically accurate as are anime fansubs. The source material really is that bad. DxD in particular is only slightly more readable than perl golf.

>>11257709
Well some people are making chats for it too but mostly is a social experience. Good friends introduce you his group and let you play an easy system like Pathfinder, but I've heard you can find open groups in certain book stores or comic stores where they welcome new people. But probably some online communities are really big, I remember people invited other people in /tg/ to play in chats during weekends.

>>11257709
Can be IRL or through voice/video chat. In my experience most of the campaigns you'll play are completely awful either due to a bad DM or players being shitheads, but if you find a good group of bros to play with it's a great time.

>>11255618
ignore the snarky replies, it really is an amazing series

>>11254279
Legend by David Gemmell. In fact a lot of his books have this trope: retired bad asses being forced out of retirement.

Holy shit! George R.R. Martin is into RPG and fucking knows about GURPS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoIb62THIT0

>>11257732
>>11257733
Hmmm, fascinating. I need some low impact hobbies now that I'm in my thirties and wishing for death. There's a place nearby called Gamer's Sanctuary which caters to the tabletop/Magic crowd, so I imagine that would be the place to start. That or I can call up my old bi-sex fwb and see if he wants to learn me, he's always been partial to that shit. Thanks for the spoonfeeding my shniggies!

>>11257868
Just be prepared to despise the usual dregs that frequent those zones.
>>11257814
that's pretty cool. he would probably make a good GM since he discovery writes for the most part.

>>11257868
buddy, suicide is better than doing this sorta thing
You wanna be a fucking nerd ? lol Talking about your "dungeons and dragon adventures" ?

>>11257894
I've always got good partners dude, maybe try a new group.

>>11257901
You don't know shit, Vin Diesel would kick your ass for speaking bad about his favorite hobby.

>>11257894
>Just be prepared to despise the usual dregs that frequent those zones
As long as they only autistically care about the hobby and don't drag me through their lives, I'll be sound as a pound.

>>11257901
What do I care? I'm old, man. There's a point where cool is no longer on the table (unless you're like the skeezy dude at young people's parties selling pills).

I don't plan on talking about anything. I just need something to fill the minutes until death. That's all adult life is; distraction from death and diminishing returns.

I am so done with it.

>>11257787
Sounds interesting, I'll probably lead it some day. But exposure-wise this is the opposite: he's using his fame to inspire rather than working in obscurity. Also the novel deals with a siege and huge international events on a timer. I would much prefer free journeying in no hurry, I really want that comfy factor.

>>11254970
Overlord is great if you can ignore the awful translated prose and the autistic anime shit, especially when it focuses on nazarick and not fucking lizards or the goblin girl.

>>11257814
GURPS is kinda big though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq_vgi-ofmU

Upon being summoned to another world, a group of bullies attempts to murder their classmate by throwing him off the transportation spell and to his death.

However, Tanaka Tomoyuki finds himself revived as a zombie. Dragging himself from beyond the grave, he returns to the world of the living to exact revenge on all those who bullied and tormented him when he was still alive.

Warning

In other words: vengeful EDGELORD to the max...the worst and most cringeworthy story to ever exist on the site. Cardboard, 2D villain characters with no depth at all whose sole purpose is to exist as antagonists to be beaten up by the vengeful protagonist. And the protagonist somehow isn't bitter and edgy enough because of his lame jokes and he's the typical spineless beta male...whatever that means because it's such a bullshit term coined by so-called alpha males who think there's only one way to be "masculine".

>>11253747
i like the iron islands chapters in the books
the show murdered them
victarion's chapters in ADWD are hilarious

>>11258055
To be fair, when a madman fights ship-to-ship sea battles in full heavy Kraken armor, your only choices are to shit or go blind.

So how would the 40k universe deal with an invasion from The Culture?

>>11257868
>>>/tg/60062462

>>11258117

>>11258184

>>11256251
There's still a big social stigma against older woman/younger man relationships. The French president got a ton of shit during the election because his wife is like 20 years older than him.

>>11258008
>this post

is witcher worth reading? I couldn't get into the game, but i like the setting -- minus the spells -- so I'm thinking of going to the source. I had to stop myself from picking up a $60 trilogy the other day.

>>11258628
yea its ok
Could probably skip the latest book though

>>11258628
It's okay. His other trilogy "Trylogia husycka" is far better and more mature but not available in english.
Also i think russian illustrations are pretty cool
>>11255030
>>11255008
>>11255015

>>11258757

>>11254484
Kino's Journey is one of the few LNs I enjoyed. The books are series of vignettes. The protagonist, Kino, travels a world full of small countries on a motorcycle with the rule to not stay anywhere for more than three days. She travels well-armed and talks to to her motorcycle, Hermes, whom she can hear respond. She visits a lot of strange places and observes, but tries to not interfere, with whatever is going on at each.

>>11253261
Xanth series has a fair amount of monster girls

>>11258771
>whom she can hear respond
Well, everyone can hear him, though sometimes they hide that he can speak.

How is 3-body regarded so highly? The narrative is abysmal, characterization nonexistent. Author lack a basic understanding of humanity to hate it as much as he does. Some science stuff was pretty cool but there is too much of it even for any novel, even sf one. It's insane that this is regarded so highly.

>>11259045
Yep, it's meh. Also don't fall for The Quantum Thief meme.

>>11259045
>Author lack a basic understanding of humanity
How Western of you to think that.

any fantasy similar to pic related? Not the nautical stuff necessarily, I just really like O'Brian's writing style and humor

>>11259068
His Majesty's Dragon by Naomi Novik uses dragons as tall ships. There's lots of gentlemanly British manners and honor.

Why are these considered to be awful and childish garbage written for money?
How do the tales of the dying earth and demon prince series compare to it?

>>11253249
>What are you favourite SF&F featuring dragons?

not much of a challenge really

>>11254891
malazan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>karkhanas

>>11259652
>Why are these considered to be awful and childish
They are not.

works with this aesthetic?
Not the show, mind you. Just the tone of the game series in general.

>>11259901
Scroll of the Renewed Aster

>>11253261
Champions by Kenny Michaels
Those books with the driads
Enthralled

>>11259909
Google doesn't know what this :/

>>11253482
I checked this out and honestly it looks like shit.

Is the MC really bound to hell because he smoked a joint?

>>11259935
well the basic idea is certain states of minds allow people to summon others as demons or whatever they think they are to be into the world basically all the demons are humans or other beings from other worlds no one of the summoners realized that at the time
the weed is one of these things that leads to that, other methods exist too its just convenient for the plot that way in the beginning
its actually a fairly original and well thought out plotline.

What is the /sffg/ equivalent of Tokyo Necro?

>>11260014
That looks like it's going to make for one terrible yet awesome anime.

>>11259952
Huh, well I'm going to keep looking but if I don't find anything with good devils I'll check it out.

>>11258465
>>11256972
>>11256229
>>11255999
>>11255749
I always wonder when /sffg/ started praising BotnS as The Second Revelation

>>11260046
>That looks like it's going to make for one terrible yet awesome anime.
VNs usually to get awful anime adaptations, unfortunately. Would be nice, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEGqr8JFF7g

>>11260073
It wasn't a white desert but the moon!

It's been a long time since I read any fantasy novels and I could use a recommendation. I'm fond of D&D and I'm looking for that 'comfy' kind of adventure novel, with a varied cast/party of main characters, that echoes a fantasy RPG. Any suggestions?

>This thread
Did we get posted to Reddit again?

>>11260130

>>11258069
>>>/tg/

>>11259933
Here, I'll give you a hint. See if you can fill in the blank.
>Scroll = Book
>Renewed = New
>Aster = ___

>>11260154

>>11257717
Amateur fansubs aren't super accurate or good at prose either, I'm just mentioning because I know a lot of those that translate LN's do it with help of machine translators or from a Chinese translation.

>>11260284
based poe poster
terminus est is actually semi viable for flicker builds.

>>11259736
>>11259297

>>11260343
>poe poster
Poester?
>>11260344
Don't take the bait.

>>11260343
well its decent. with abyss jewels everything is pretty much viable nowadays. still a good phys dagger is still miles better than a terminus est. even oros sacrifice is better.

Just finished the Starship Troopers anime. How close was it to the book and where do I start with Heinlen?

>>11260377
At the start, with Heinlein, it's more about where you stop.

>>11253255
Is it any good? I've been recommended this before

>>11260431
The author graduated Magna Cum Laude. Of course it's good.

>>11260377
the only heinlein I read is moon is a harsh mistress which was pretty good though kind of underwhelming ending

>>11254150
Yeah this is probably an issue with the translation. I don't read light novels but I have had this exact problem before with VNs, where the writing seems like some sort of barely comprehensible pseudo-English. It's not that it's grammatically incorrect, but that it's just not idiomatic English. The problem may be that the translator is being *too* accurate and literal and failing to transfer the meaning properly into English, but who knows. The few VNs I have played that actually have competent, non-autistically-literal translations don't have this problem, unsurprisingly, and read naturally.

>>11260130
The Belgariad

>>11260475
Yes, a lot of that is due to fan translators being weebs and/or ESL and deciding to translate the text phrase-by-phrase or even word-by-word.

>>11254027
Dragonlance is fucking great--read the main stories/trilogies by the primary authors. I don't know why most fuccbois here have a hardon for only the Twins interactions.
Don't read the Dragons of a New Age trilogy though; they are good within themselves but they're ignored by the rest of the chronology and it just feels weird, almost as if the reader is the only one who knows about basically all the events in the story.

>>11253691
Is it that time? Can we discuss this, guys? I've got the Pentagon's top cryptologists working 24/7 trying to figure out what the FUCK this panel means.

>Thomas Ligotti is 64
>Ramsey Campbell is 72
>T. E. D. Klein is 70
Is there any hope for modern Lovecraftian fiction? The greats who emerged in the 1960s-1980s are starting to get old.

>>11260664
There is no hope for anything in general

>>11260664
yes there is hope you need only fund my NEETdom

>>11260431
No. Read the thread. It's memeposting.

>>11260664
No, modern Lovecraftian authors don't live in a environment inducive to Lovecraftian themes, they're pale imitations.

>>11260475
>Yeah this is probably an issue with the translation
It's not. I mean, sure, some translations suck, but that is far far from being the main deal breaker. LNs are the equivalent of litrpg, and they suck by definition. Being badly written/translated is just the sugar on top.

>>11260130
Sanderson.

>>11260664

>>11260244
>Aster = ___
daisy?

>>11260969
>The name Aster comes from the Ancient Greek word ἀστήρ (astḗr), meaning "star"
he's talking about the book of the new sun, starts with Shadow of the Torturer

will there ever be a book series that can emulate the comfy feel of the first half of the fellowship/the hobbit?

>>11260475
some are machine translated like Majikoi S

>>11260577
How does a lake hundreds of miles long and only a couple feet deep not just evaporate when it gets hot?

>>11261170
wheel of time or narnia. wheel of time is mostly hanging out in the woods drinking tea and occasionally slaying the hoards of darkness

>>11261170
>comfy feel of the first half of the fellowship
I know exactly what you mean.
I play the first several chapters whenever I have trouble sleeping and it works like a charm.

>>11261170
Again, the Belgariad

Anyone here ever read "The Hungering Saga" by Heath Pfaff or as I like to call it: "how much suffering can one man take"

This is all I've read.

>>11261651
In your whole life?

>>11261746
Pretty much.

>>11261651
I can't even understand how small this list is. Anyway, I liked Swanwick's Stations of the Tide enough to read it twice but I hated Iron Dragon's Daughter. It was too dark and depressing. I guess it's technically good because it's supposed to be like that but I have zero desire to read Dragons of Babel.

>>11261890
>I can't even understand how small this list is.
Abusive household so I never had anything when I was underage + a few years of medical problems.
I've only lived on my own for a few years now. And I've had to spend a lot of time doing basic education and then getting a vocational degree.

The tone of Dragons of Babel is (a lot) more positive than The Iron Dragon's Daughter.

>>11261929
You need to start with the Greeks

>>11261929
Damn, sorry. Books were an escape for me when I was shy and friendless for years and years. What are you reading next? I'll give Dragons of Babel a look.

>>11261975
Tigana from Guy Gavriel Kay is next on my list.

>>11261651
>>11261929
If you liked The Picture of Dorian Gray you should check out the other Gothic classics. Dracula, Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, and Edgar Allan Poe's short stories are all great.

>>11261990
I read that a long time ago but I remember it was good. If you want more fantasy later, the first Amber series by Roger Zelazny is pretty great.

I had all my mass market paperbacks in a closed shelf with my games and DVDs and now everything smells like a musty secondhand store.
I guess I have to find a different shelf for them. But it was perfect because it's one of those old multimedia cupboards with different sizes for VHS and DVD and whatnot. The MMPs were the perfect size for the VHS shelves.

>>11262101
You know i quite like those little mass produced small books they are comfy in my small manlet hands. If you have small manlet hands like me you probably agree that a big book is no good i need a wee fucka instead

>>11262114
a shame so many sff books no longer do mass market paperbacks. Fuckin joe abercrombie. fuckin django wexler.

>Random wins the Amber-bowl
blessed

>>11262173
Have you read anything else by Zelazny? If not, I'd highly recommend Lord of Light and/or Creatures of Light and Darkness now that you're done with Amber.

>>11261757
Well that's plain wrong unless you're from Sub-Saharan Africa or some shit. There's such a thing as compulsory reading in school.

>>11261651
READ

>>11261746
BOTNS

>>11261757
NEXT

>>11262515

>>11262464
My schools never had compulsory reading because it wasn't a communist school. You could pass your exams and tests by focusing on poetry and film for English classes.
You never HAD to read a book but it was beneficial. Or do you mean something else when you say compulsory?

>>11262272
Yeah, I'll visit some of his other stuff. I like to take breaks with authors between series, though, so I don't wear all their stuff out at once.

Why does everyone complain about the Maas shitposter when there are (assumably) multiple people here shilling Gene Wolfe far more often?

Is the Drizzt saga worth reading if I just want a long series about adventurers doing adventurer things?

>>11262777
no
skip all forgiven realms stuff, its all awful

>>11262770
t. Maas shitposter

>>11262553
Nigger, how the fuck did you pass literature without reading literature?

>>11262464
Not that anon, but I graduated high school (in the US) having read The Scarlet Letter, Great Gatsby, Of Mice and Men, The Crucible, The Grapes of Wrath, probably two or three others I'm not remembering, and then about ten plays by Shakespeare and occasionally random poems.

These are literally the only books which were required to be read, and we read plenty of chapters during classes. The only reason I even got into reading is because everyone else hated it and I was a contrarian. Public education in the USA is really bad.

>>11262952
All I read in high school was To Kill a Mocking Bird, Huckleberry Finn ,Their Eyes Were Watching God, and A Lesson Before Dying yes my english teacher was black. Outside of that we were reading short stories and poetry I don't remember aside from one describing trees in lewd positions..

>>11262897
If you're capable of it, you can just read the outlines of books online and then bullshit your way through everything. In high school I got an A in AP English Literature without reading anything.

>>11262897
"Literature" wasn't a compulsory course at my schools. There was a "long text" section of the English tests and exams but you didn't have to do it to pass if you showed sufficient understanding of your visual media, short text, or this section where they provide a short text you have never seen before.
Again by definition reading a book was never compulsory at schools for me.

Jesus christ fine, I'll read BOTNS
Someone tell me now if I'm being memed and am about to read some cringey YA shit

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>>11263143
>>11263143

>>11263142
I've honestly no idea if it's a meme or not but I've honestly never see it mentioned outside of /sffg/.

>>11255711
it's been 2 years, and I am yet to recover from the chain of dogs...

>>11263142
You're about to read some extremely overwritten allegorical descriptions of awkward as fuck characters.