/lit/ - Literature

>>11246000
nigga What The Fuck Is Wrong With Your Nose haha

>>11246007
>nigga What The Fuck Is Wrong With Your Nose haha

>>11246007
>caring about mortal bodies and vane looks
You failed
>Plotinus, the philosopher active during our own lifetime, gave
the impression of being embarrassed about having a body

>He so disliked the idea of being painted or sculpted that
when Amelius asked him to allow an image to be made, he said: ‘Isn’t it
enough that I have to carry around the image that nature has clothed me with?’

>>11246211
thats because hes ugly

No. Leave Platonism to ME.

>>11246000
Nice non-dual trips. Can I dive right into the Enneads without reading Plato?

>>11246232
whos this nerd and whys his nose so fucked up?

>>11246232
No. Leave it to ME

>>11246340
Brainlet please go

>>11246414
>pseud
no thanks

>>11246414
This guy's nose is fucked up too wtf

>>11246292
Are you seriously fucking asking if you can read neoplatonism without having read plato? I don't know but I wouldnt do it

Plato? I have broken that man.

>>11246292
I think you could but you really shouldn't

>single-handedly creates a grass-roots Platonism that doesn't masturbate over the Ideas and actually gets back into the cave

*blocks your henosis*

>>11246000
*creates a grass-roots platonism that doesn't masturbate over the Ideas and actually gets back in the cave out of a compassionate love for those in need

Everything personal kid :)

>>11246472
Please stop posting pictures of my waifu.

>>11246472
fucking BASED

>>11246007
>>11246220
Please don't make fun of Plotinus, guys, he didn't even want his depiction made.

>>11246472
This is why Jews shouldn't be allowed to mix with secular philosophy.

>>11246472
>>11246478
>>11246484
>tfw no Jewfu

>>11246493
>platonism
>secular philosophy

>>11246493
>ancient greek pederasty apologia
>jew turns it into a profound moral philosophy

I fail to see how this isn't an improvement?

>>11246549
Not to mention she converted to Catholicism so she's fucking based.

>>11246472
>jewess with a more masculine and less affected style than the vast majority of continentals

BTFO

>>11246554
She didn't, she stayed far away from the Church all her life.

leave platonism in the trash

heidegger and arendt are the ones who finally put down plato for good

>dude, what if this world isn't like really real

>>11246472
>>11246478
>>11246484

>compassionate love for those in need
>Also literally gets people shot and put in mortal danger so she can larp as a revolutionary

>>11247862
[citation needed]

>>11246000
The damning critique of Platonism is that Plato wasn’t a Platonist

>>11247867
It was in the Wes Cecil lecture on her, which also includes fun story of how she wanted to experience working class life so her well to do father had a friend create a special job in a factory just for her to keep her safe but she promptly quite when even that was too exhausting for her.

As for wikipedia it gives some insight into her LARPing

>In 1936, despite her professed pacifism, she travelled to the Spanish Civil War on the Republican side, and joined the anarchist columns of Buenaventura Durruti. She even took a rifle, but was expelled from combat line by her comrades, as she was extremely short-sighted, and they feared Simone shooting one of them. She hit a pot of boiling liquid because of her sightness problem, had noticeable burns, and her family came to Spain to bring her back home.

>upon arriving in Spain, sought out the anti-fascist commander Julián Gorkin, asking to be sent on a mission as a covert agent, to rescue the prisoner Joaquín Maurín. Gorkin refused, saying she would almost certainly be sacrificing herself for nothing, as it would be most unlikely she could pass as a Spaniard. Weil replied that she had "every right"[26] to sacrifice herself if she chose, but after arguing for more than an hour, she was unable to convince Gorkin to give her the assignment.

>From seeing her practice on makeshift shooting ranges, her comrades saw she was a very poor shot and tried to avoid taking her on missions, though she did sometimes insist. Her only direct participation in combat was to shoot with her rifle at a bomber during an air raid; in a second raid, she tried to man the group's heavy machine gun, but her comrades prevented her, as they thought it would be best for someone less clumsy and short-sighted to use the weapon. After being with the group for a few weeks, she burnt herself over a cooking fire. She was forced to leave the unit, and was met by her parents

Her decision to essentially commit suicide rather than accept her parents help again was just the final and most selfish act of a lifetime of LARPing.

As for the Catholic LARP that parts obvious "Im totally a christian who had a direct revelation from Christ but I refuse to get baptised"

>>11247920
>LARPer
>Autistic
>Warmonger
>Feeble interest in religion
>Concerned about muh authenticity
Was she /ourgirl/?

>>11247920
I mean it's pretty funny that you consider someone trying to live out their ideals as "selfish" and LARPing.

also being a poor shot isn't "getting people shot" you silly faggot

>As for the Catholic LARP that parts obvious "Im totally a christian who had a direct revelation from Christ but I refuse to get baptised"

maybe understand her rationale behind not joining the Church, she makes it pretty clear. but god forbid we discuss actual ideas.

>>11247925
I dare say you are right.

>I mean it's pretty funny that you consider someone trying to live out their ideals as "selfish" and LARPing.
She's the equivalent of the NEET who lives with his parents whilst professing the wonders and need of libertarianism. Her life was a grand game that was kept afloat by her long suffering parents who were always there to provide her the money, lodgings and rescuing that her egotistical larps demanded. But hey caring about your parents would be the real selfish act wouldnt it?

>also being a poor shot isn't "getting people shot" you silly faggot
Reread the post wikipedia wasnt my source for that, it merely gives some insight into her behavior.

You had a adult, feeble shortsighted women essentially demand that she be allowed to carry out a serious and dangerous mission even when it would bring 0 benefit to the mission (and indeed would only bring detriment) or cause and whose only value lay in inflating her sense of self worth. She was such burden that simply not shooting cooking utensils full of oil or falling into the cooking fire was beyond her ability.

>but god forbid we discuss actual ideas.
Her reasons are literally worse "GOD DIDIN REVEAL HIMSELF TO ME AND ORDER ME TO GET BAPTISED SO IM NOT DOIN IT". Not to mention her bizarre belief that getting baptised would stifle her work and exclude people who weren't baptised.

>>11247991
yeah yeah everyone's always got something to say. keep coping

abloo abloo the one abloo abloo

>>11248004
brainlet

remember goys, degrees of objectivation of causality in itself, through time and space.

>>11248001
?
>everyone's always got something to say.
Like the scholar who has written multiple works on her life and philosophy- seems like an odd way of coping eh?

>>11248017
no one who understands weil gives two fuck about her getting baptized or not

>>11246414
>>11246232
>>11246000

I'm putting together a team.

>>11248029
I dont see why her LARPy lifestyle is so upsetting to you? Just because you enjoy the works of an author their life has to be just as great and profound.

>no one who understands weil gives two fuck about her getting baptized or not
Perhaps if they are atheist or Jewish, but for Christians deliberately rejecting one of the most important sacraments when there is zero question of duress is extremely serious. Its up there with a person saying "Angels told me Islam is true but I dont think the Quran is actually the words of Allah and Muhammad was just a great guy."

>>11248056
>why is doesn't a mystic kowtow to dogma

Please stop.

>>11248062
>why is doesn't a mystic kowtow to dogma
Now you are just embarrassing yourself Catholicism has a rich tradition of mysticism, and none it requires the rejection of the most basic tenets of the faith. Though it goes all the way back to the Church Fathers pic related is a good starting point.

Mysticism is not some get out of jail free card that makes any heretical and false true. Your LARPy waifu simply took the parts of Christianity she liked whilst rejecting the parts she didn't ie your standard LARPer. She speaks of Christ just as much as the DEUS VULT types on pol do.

Im guessing you aren't a Christian or really have given Christian beliefs much though.

>>11248097
lotta buzzwords, no ideas

like a good catholic, more concerned with surface fidelity to form than actual meaningful content.

sooner or later kenosis forces an independence from dogma.

>Im guessing you aren't a Christian or really have given Christian beliefs much though.

coming from a guy who links Cloud of Unknowing and thinks his priest is gonna be there to meet him at the gates to the desert of the Godhead to pat him on the ass and talk about the broncos

>>11247862
>>11247920
>>11247991
you are so fucking mad

>>11246618
He saw nothing wrong with Plato (and Jesus as a person, for that matter). Read Kaufmann, for the death of G-d

>>11248118
To be precise, he directly engaged with their ideas and provided arguments pro et contra without any blatant bias or hate towards them. The critique of the Church, its practices and assumptions are a whole separate issue for him

>>11248107
>like a good catholic, more concerned with surface fidelity to form than actual meaningful content.
Who said Im a Catholic or a Christian?

>sooner or later kenosis forces an independence from dogma.
It doesnt, the bigger trouble is the prelest that often is tied up with it an people mistaking their own ego (and Weils ego was as fragile as her body) and foreign influences as an understanding of God. Again look at her reasoning for rejecting baptism and just see the egoism bleeding out of it, it is based solely on Catholicism not living up to the Christianity she desires - a Christianity that doesnt challenge her selfishness or force her to make any sacrifice to her views or lifestyle.

Its akin to a biologist refusing to assent to the legitimacy of vaccinations because it causes offense to their beliefs on individuality.

>coming from a guy who links Cloud of Unknowing
Its a good beginners piece and one that deals with kenosis specifically whilst also showing how it is in line with Catholic dogma.

>lotta buzzwords, no ideas
> thinks his priest is gonna be there to meet him at the gates to the desert of the Godhead to pat him on the ass and talk about the broncos
Step it up anon, hit me like Weil hits a camp fire she thinks is 6 feet in front of her.

>>11248118
>Read Kaufman
ohohohohohoohohoohAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>11248139
Truly extatic

>>11246000
>Platonism
>Pythagoreanism
absolute trash

literally the bottom of the barrol of Greek philosophy.

Epicureanism is where it's at.

>>11248825
Oh oh look whats I round! Forms are real srsly stop fooling around

>>11248855
s-shut up

just go interpret a dream you superstitious faggot

>>11248890
>implying there is even 'I' that would interpret 'it'
>keks