/lit/ - Literature

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>>11244706
what is this
dont tell me drizzt did a genderswap

sanderson is not a hack

webnovels are novels too

>>11244713
Uhhhh wow, powerful stuff.

>>11244711
classic girdle of strength/belt of other gender mixup.

>>11244713
debatable

>>11244644

About the worst thing that can be said about The Demolished Man is that most readers rank it slightly below The Stars My Destination if pressed. Read it.

>>11244706
I want to read a story about a volcano goddess that cums magma loudly, is Maas the author for me?

If you read in English, make sure your version is the 2011 translation.
Download: https://share.soupwhale.com/bibliotik/files/Solaris%20-%20Stanislaw%20Lem/

>>11244726
>For the next time can you include the name so it's easily found in the archives?
In the post? Like this?
Solaris.

>>11244744
yes

>>11244644
The Demolished Man is good storytelling. Personally I liked the concept better than Stars.

brandon sanderson is an individual of questionable skill in regards to writing fiction and quite possibly very different in his definition of sexual attraction.

is the sffg discord still up

>>11244715
Literally name 5 that are good not written by Wildbow or the Unsong guy.

Yo, Unsouled series is junk food garbage but I'm going to buy the new book anyway.

>>11244784
>>11244713
Worth going to meet him? He's in town

>>11244706
I gave up at the velvet rapped steel.

>>11244923
it's probably worth it, he seems like a genuinely nice guy and doesn't have a reputation of randomly being a dickwad at signings like Rothfuss and some others.

>>11244923
Met him once, was a surprisingly chill dude

any books that give the feel of the core dragonlance books?
like...adventure
a group traveling and camaraderie, things like this?

How do you feel about female knights? I'm writing a story where the main love interest is a female knight. I want her to be strong and capable but I don't want to fall into the "strong independent woman" meme. She's a good fighter but any slightly above average male warrior would wipe the floor with her due to men just naturally being stronger, she's tough but still feminine and doesn't come off as a raging dyke, shit like that. Any tips?

>>11244824
>Wildbow
>good

What's the /lit/ equivalent of Goblin Slayer?

>>11244984
In comparison to the majority of "webnovels" at least.

>>11244988
demon cycle by Peter Brett
don't read it

>>11244959
Brianne of Tarth (in the books) is a brilliant example of a female knight. GRRM write about how she's fighting differently than men, using their expectations against them and trying to get them to spend themselves before she start applying pressure. Also she's fuck hueg and later on equipped with a pseudo-magic sword, enabling her to go toe to toe with and even beat experienced male fighters.

So try to balancing dealing with the fact that she's a woman in a mens world with giving her enough feats so that it does not feel like she's slowing everyone else down. And most importantly, do what you want because people will bitch anyway.

>>11244959
My only comments would be for her armour to work she needs to be close to flat chested (this can set up for the cliche "OH she looks so different dressed up blah blah blah" or what ever direction you want to take it).
And as you would already know write her as a person not just as the MC's love interest.

I read a pretty bad book recently set in Japan and they had a women who became a warrior and due to the hair style the warriors all had (long hair tied up), and the baggy clothing made her blend in with the men. She was written as a warrior first and a women second if that makes sense?

>>11244959
Sounds like you've got a pretty good grip on the situation. Just keep it realistic and instead of trying to make her some capeshit-tier super-soldier, imbue her with a lot of charisma since a female knight could be really good at inspiring men around her a la Jeanne d'Arc.

>>11244947
The Belgariad

>>11244959
Strength isn't the only consideration in who wins in combat.

>>11245009
>flat chested
As long as she's not a tit monster breasts are not really a problem as long as she's tying them down.

>>11245029
This is also true

>>11245024
>Strength isn't the only consideration in who wins in combat
I know. That's why I said any slightly above average warrior. If she fought some random run of the mill person then she's going to win 99% of the time regardless of said peasant's gender. But she's not some genius swordsman, she's an average warrior. Put her against a guy around her level then that guy would win 9 out of 10 times. Of course anything can happen in a fight, but I'm just giving a general example.

>>11244959
could you post it when released?
i like books with romance but almost all books with romance are smut

>>11245075
Sure, might take a while since I literally just started about a week ago and I have quite a long way to go. And there's no smut. The romance is a secondary plot. Also no love triangles or cuckshit. Call me old fashioned but I despise that kind of stuff. Just a pure love between the MC and his tomboy female knight.

>>11245101
>MC and her tomboy female knight
fixed

>>11245101
>Just a pure love between the MC and his tomboy female knight.
Would read.

>Theres no smut

so wats the friggin point !

>>11244959
Stupid

>>11245106
No MC's a guy. Sorry to ruin your yuri fantasies anon.

>>11245127
Thanks.

>>11244923
I've watched a few of his courses and he seems approachable enough. Probably more of a bro than most.

Are the Aiel just Robert Jordan trying to excuse getting btfo of Vietnam?

>>11244959
What's the magic level? You can always equalize shit by making her pilot a magic armor and sword. Then there's more to being a knight than direct combat. You can make her a commander who rarely engages or maybe uses ranged weapons. Knight basically takes heavy armor and ability to survive in mass combat as a must. So you can't really go with the weak but fast trope. So magic, command or freakish strength.

>>11244959
Historically, women mainly showed up as knights in periods of internecine violence. For example Raoul II de Tosny's wife Isabel is known to have rode as a knight during a several year long feud with another noble in the area. And generally they were from minor nobility, enough status to get educated and trained but not so much responsibility to keep them heavily involved in courtly politics.

>>11245063
Which can largely be offset by training and skill. Consider that a shorter than average man will be facing similar disadvantages.

And like the Samurai knights almost always fought from horseback, though they were more heavy shock infantry than mounted archers.

>>11245007
Why not? Aside from the "lel, women rule everything from the shadows" shit, the hate-inducing but realistic female characters, and the unsatisfying ending, it's pretty good. Arlen's parts especially.

>>11245202
you're forgetting the boring not-muslim thing in book 2

>>11245184
I'm still deciding on magic. Initially I wanted it to be pretty low but now I'm going back and forth. The commander suggestion sounds like a good idea. I'll play around with that.

>>11245135
>Thanks.
As in the idea of a female knight is stupid. I'm sure you're cool.

>>11245184
>"hey wizard I need you to save my kingdom as my male heir was the prophesied one but he fell out of a tree and snapped his neck"
>"lol ok i'll make your daughter ripped"
>"what! that's not what I want at all!"
>"too late"

i wish there were books that arent utter shit where one of the main characters is female
but they all are dur i am womyn
i stronk i need no male

>>11245220
>Initially I wanted it to be pretty low
You can always make her a paladin, you don't need to be able to throw fireballs and lightning to offset the male/female disadvantage.

>>11245184
I would say it also depends on what a knight is in the world. Is it a type of warrior or a rank granted by the king? If it is the latter there would be a backstory to why she is a knight but it could be harder to work out how she ended up with the MC

>>11245220
It also depends on the realism levels and on what her duties would be. If she's more of a policewoman than an armor on armor combatant, it's fine for her to be a normal woman since a trained individual in armor can take on whatever rabble without much problem, and it would be more about her crime-solving skills than combat potential.

>>11245250
there's only one garbage female main character (or even side character) in realm of the elderlings imo
hobb fucked the duck a bit with the rainwild books

>>11245250
there's tons of fantasy love triangles where the girl can't choose between guys and "no male" isn't even a consideration.

are there any sci-fi books that depict an invasion of earth from an alien's perspective

I never read sci-fi but this was recommended to me as libertarian /lit/.
Is it meme-tier?

What's the difference between SF and F? Is SF a subgenre of F or at what point is something SF and no longer F or vice versa?

>>11245184
Bows and such like weapons were considered dishonorable and best left for mercenaries though. Commanders fought with sword, lance, and axe only.

>>11245329
Depends on how its set up in the world. Knight commander of archers doesn't seem too bad and she wouldn't have to pick up a bow.

>>11245323
>technology, magic
>not really. generally it's one or the other but there is SFF and it's totally subjective where the boundary lies

>>11245312
It's good. The professor is a great character.

>>11245340
I see. What about something like medieval fantasy that has absolutely no magic?

>>11245323
>>11245350
I think it's a matter of gradation. Like so:
Realism -- Sci-Fi -- Fantasy
To me, SF is not real but possible (or even likely) in the future. If you get to fireballs and dragons that's fantasy.
Although there might be a formal definition and I might be talking shit.

>>11244959
Just do extensive research on combat and it'll clear out all your confusions. People are largely unaware of this, but in real life, plate armor made you invincible to anything that isn't a mace or a hammer. Riding a stallion, a full plated knight could kill absurd numbers of footmen. Assuming she's well trained and really, really strong, the outcome of her combat encounters will depend significantly on the sorts of armour she and her adversaries are wearing. If she's smart she'll try as much as possible to stay on horseback.

>>11245338
Except there was no such thing as knight commander of archers. Knight were landed gentry who fought as cavalry. Archers were almost always mercenaries.

>>11245350
Subjectively, if there are swords, it's fantasy still.

Subjectively again, if it takes place in another world just like ours culturally (with swords, kings, knights, etc) but all the countries, names, etc. are made up, then it's still fantasy because scientifically, the chances of this spontaneously arising on another planet are basically none.

>>11245370
>faster-than-light travel, which directly violates the laws of physics as we currently understand them, is "possible (or even likely)"
>dragons, which are merely biologically implausible, are not
Hmm

>>11245329
>>11245389
>historical accuracy
>in fantasy
Also those are European examples. Middle Eastern, North African and Asian knights were A-OK with ranged weapons. The only reason European knight even pushed the ranged = bad meme is because it takes their years of training and flushes them down the drain because all you need is a peasant with a longbow to kill their armored ass.

>>11245420
Yes, that was the exact implication of my post. Thank you for stating it explicitly, friend.

>>11245389
Really? I thought archers were the backbone of English and Welsh armies.

>>11245413
>FTL travel is not likely in the future

>>11245430
See >>11245424

>>11245389
>Tristan(Latin&Brythonic:Drustanus;Welsh:Trystan), also known asTristram, is aCornishknight of theRound Tableand the hero of theArthurianTristan and Iseultstory.
>In the 2004 film,King Arthur, based on theSarmatian connectiontheory of origin for the Arthurian legends, Tristan (Mads Mikkelsen) is a prominent member of the knights, who areSarmatiansserving under a half-Roman Arthur in the 5th century.
>Tristan is a cavalry archer, able to make amazing shots with hisParthian/Eurasian-style reflex composite bow.
https://en.www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan
Seems fine 2bh

>>11245415
God i hate it when people on /lit/ talk about things they don't know shit about. There is no such thing as a middle eastern knight, a peasant could not become an archer (too busy fending off hunger and there was no conscription back then), arrows can't (for the most part) pierce armour, and knights spent years training but in general despised killing people with bows (that's a European tradition, the romans too believed that long range combat was dishonorable).

>>11245426
Archers were essential yes but wars back then were fought mostly by mercenaries. That was the norm until Napoleon came along.

>>11245413
>>11245424
>>11245434
I remember when there was no water on the Moon and Mars. Paradigms shift.

>>11245460
Legends are not real life buddy. Some knights used bows in combat, but by and large it was something that was looked down upon.

>>11245463
>European's own the patent for knighthood
lol

>a peasant couldn't become an archer
lol

>arrows can't pierce armor
lol

>>11245477
Fantasy isn't real life either surprisingly. It all depends on the world the author create for if it's ok or not.

>>11245463
>but wars back then were fought mostly by mercenaries.
I'm not sure this is true.

>talking about how different authors set up what a knight is, what their role is, and what they can do
>reeeeeee in real life it's different

>>11244959
women have naturally much better legs and hind quarters.

You've got a couple routes here imo. 1, Unnaturally gifted shoulders to help wield a weapon. 2. she was gifted spectacular armor that is properly weighted to her hips giving her a tank build.

maybe some kind of judo knight, with the low centeer of gravity, she could hip throw other knights and stab'em while they're down.

>>11245622
>women have naturally much better legs and hind quarters.
What the hell?

>>11244959
Why don't you just make her black? I can effortlessly imagine Serena Williams with an armor, wielding a sword.

Finished the trilogy.
Feels bad man.
I loved the story and character a lot and in contrast with the previous sci-fi books that I've read this Chink author crafted a masterpiece that is actually interesting as fuck to read.
Soulless Chinks they say, stupid fucks.
Stories of:
Ye Wenjie
Cheng Xin
Zhang Beihai
Luo Ji
Thomas Wade
Are very well made and remarkable.
Cheng Xin especially since she was tested the most of all. It was quite something when she failed to meet Yun Tianming at the end of the book. Honestly she failed at pretty much everything she was tasked to do yet at the end she's made the right choice to return back to the galaxy.

Yes I had to copy paste their names.

>>11245477
For warfare. Most knights would have had some skill at using a bow for hunting or sport shooting.

Crossbows also seem to be a bit of an exception. I've seen a number of references in primary sources to knights using crossbows while mounted or (especially) while defending fortifications.

>>11245647
>yet at the end she's made the right choice to return back to the galaxy
Not really that surprising is it? She was a bleeding heart all along. Of course all the blows could have jaded her but she seemed to tank all that depressing shit quite well desu. And she was right all along, Wade knew it, only problem was that the rest of the universe were a little behind, so to speak.

What happened with the movie adaptation anyway? Was it released or not?
Granted it would be shitty but I'd still watch it.

>>11245639
ya they do. pound for pound women are much stronger b/c estrogen funnels glucose transporters to the thighs. Which if they're worked out can become jacked.

Sadly their torsos and arms are pathetic in comparison so translation of that strength into the upper body is questionable. If a girl has ever got you in a headlock with her thighs you're in a very precarious position.
You also have interesting routes in balance and marksmanship. both essential.

but if you put a mans armor on a woman she'll wittle b/c its carried by the upper body, whereas a womans armor would essestially be carried on the lower. reducing torso mobility but being much lighter on the upper body. Its weaker to higher leverage front thrusts though, so you need really good balance and posture to wield the armor correctly. also she'd likely fight with a buckler and not a shield.

>>11245646
The same Serena Williams who got trounced by an out of shape retired tennis player who was ranked 203rd who prepared for the match by smoking cigarets and drinking alcohol? Also why would making a character black change anything? Take your race baiting bullshit and fuck off.

>>11245735
>If a girl has ever got you in a headlock with her thighs you're in a very precarious position.
Y-yeah that would be a really bad situation huh?

>>11245735
is that the reason why women aren't allowed to participate in the tour de dope?

>>11245647
Kinda ironic that Sophon / Tomoko was basically a Japanese samurai girl that also attempted to genocide the humanity (and Chinese people obviously since it's Chinese POV story).
Why wasn't she mutilated after the failed attempt in Australia though? She continued to live at the same place without a problem it seems which is weird.

Also the fact that Cheng Xin + Sophon finished the story together says quite a lot as well, I guess the author is optimistic about Chinese and Japanese relationships.

>>11245750
>Also why would making a character black change anything? Take your race baiting bullshit and fuck off.
Because blacks are physically stronger?

>>11245764
I'm going to need evidence of that. Your personal cuck fetish doesn't count.

>>11245622
That's interesting. I'll keep that in mind, but I think I'll have her in more of a commander role than a fighting role.

>>11245646
Thanks for the suggestion but I already have her character design in mind.

>>11245773
>https://search.proquest.com/docview/224537489?pq-origsite=gscholar

Or alternatively look at any sport and notice that blacks are disproportionately over represented.

You seem a bit angry though?

>>11245730
Apparently shooting was finished in 2015 but it's been postponed indefinitely because (rumors) the first cut was bad. Apparently the budget was only $30 million and the director was some guy who'd only done two poorly reviewed horror movies in the past.

I wouldn't be surprised if the CCP has blocked the release because it would harm China's image to release a shoddy adaption of a series that has brought China prestige in the literary world.

Should I read Sarah J Maas? I really can't tell if the praise is ironic or not.

>>11245817
She's graduated magna cum laude. Why would a person of her IQ produce a book that can only be enjoyed "ironically"? Use your brian.

>>11245780
You made the claim, you provide the evidence. I'm not going to do your job for you. And the physcially strongest recorded men in the world are white. Just because backs athletes are overrepresented in certain sports doesn't make them the most physically superior race in the world. You seem a bit mad yourself. Take a deep breath and stop letting your fetishization seep into reality. It's not healthy.

>>11245817
Only if you graduated Magna Cum Laude.

>>11245838

well they are fast

>>11245870
Got to run from the cops somehow.

>>11245851
I-I never even went to university. B-been working in a factory since I was 16.

>>11245885
At least you read. Don't fall for the memes, read something better than young adult.

>>11245464
1. The presence of small amounts of water on Mars is not in conflict with any laws of physics.
2. By that logic everything is sci-fi because who knows, maybe our understanding of physics is wrong and wizards and such are entirely possible in reality?

>>11245898
>Mars is not in conflict with any laws of physics
Not him, but you mean the model used nowadays to describe the universe; models may change.

Third book when?

>>11245930
They look like they're from two seperate stories.

>>11245730
We are now waiting for the Amazon tv series adaptation.

>>11245930
Maybe he'll farm more dryads huh

Green has left me wanting some books with more competently integrated non-human characters. Not super interested in robots and aliens, though, so hit me with your best /trash/y fantasy furbait, please.

>>11245908
Again: By that logic everything is sci-fi because who knows, maybe our understanding of physics is wrong and wizards and such are entirely possible in reality?

>>11245930
Soon apparently. On his blog he said he was finishing book 3 up two or three weeks ago. I just hope he stops with the Dryads. There are too fucking many of them

>>11245968
The Watch novels, and Monstrous Regiment + The Truth got you covered.

>>11245999
Sorry; should have specified no YA.

>>11245980
It's the logic of the world, a thousand years ago people knew what was possible and what impossible. Should you be able to travel to a thousand years from now, I wonder what "impossibles" you'd see.
Don't pretend to know the future of what's possible.

>>11246006
Only 5 books on that list are YA, not the ones I suggested.

>>11246030
Yeah, nah. I've read some of the books on that list. They're all YA.

>>11246044
No, they aren't. What isn't YA in your opinion then? Can only grimdark be adult and intellectual enough for you?

>>11246060
Of the last few books I've been reading
>Mort
YA
>Hyperion
not YA
>Green
YA

>>11245980
>>11245898
Sufficiently advanced technology is magic.

"Siri, cast fireball."
Siri activates my iNails to pop up revealing spouts which are linked up to the container of SuperFlam(TM) which has replaced one of my kidneys. Superflam squirts the fuck out. Siri fires up the iGnitor and blammo the tree I'm gesturing at gets roasted to Hell. The rednecks flee in fear of my demonic powers, calling on Jesus Fucking Christ to save their worthless hides.
I raise my nano-altered fire-resistant fingertips in a specific gesture and my nails click back into place.
"Siri, tell the Apple Store I need to same day a bottle of SuperFlam to my hotel."
Time to find some BBQ.

>>11245250
I liked the broken earth series

>>11246082
Okay, Mort does seem like YA because of the young protagonist and apprentice plot. But I do suggest giving Guards! Guards! a try.

I recently read the Dagger and Coin series, and it had lots of non-human characters, but those books were nothing special, just adequate.

>>11245559
There were times and places this was true, and times it was not. Also, a major strain of Western thought regarded all members of a standing army as mercenaries until basically 1975.

>>11244959
why is she a knight?

>>11246230
Because that anon wants to make her a knight for whatever story they're writing. What kind of question is that?

Women still can't be knights to this day, call her something else buddy.

A Knightress

>>11246285
This, or a Dame perhaps.

>>11246281
And I still can't shoot electricity from my ass to this day. It's a fantasy story, not historical fiction.

>>11246281
*blocks your path*

damn I'm loving Bakker, almost done with The Aspect Emperor series. yeah yeah rape monsters yeah yeah mary sue protagonist yeah yeah muh philosophy but this shit is great.

>>11246315
>ass
FOY

>>11246348
Opium hounds don't count

>>11244959
Bikini armor.

>>11246355
Bakker is great, one of the few fantasy series ive read that actually manages to escape from cliche. Also kelhus isnt a mary sue sweety, hes not even supposed to be sympathized with.

>>11246492
forgot pic

>2 times Hugo awards winner

>>11246507
My friend really likes this series

>>11246507
>black womeme author

im sure most of you hate it but objectively, is it any good?

>Richard Scott Bakker (born February 2, 1967, Simcoe, Ontario) is a Canadian fantasy author and frequent lecturer in the South Western Ontario university community. He grew up on a tobacco farm in the Simcoe area. In 1986 he attended the University of Western Ontario to pursue a degree in literature and later an MA in theory and criticism. Since the late 1990s, he has been attempting to elucidate theories of media bubbles and the intellectual alienation of the working class. After all but dissertation in a PhD in philosophy at Vanderbilt University he returned to London, Ontario where he now lives with his wife and daughter. He spends his time writing split between his fiction and his ongoing philosophic inquiry.

damn this dude really had to write his own damn wikipedia ahaha

>>11246517
yikes, thats pretty embarrassing

>>11246517
>After all but dissertation in a PhD in philosophy

So after nothing but wasting years of his life fruitlessly?

>>11246492
>one of the few fantasy series ive read that actually manages to escape from cliche
What are the others?

>>11246517
what sorta communist still uses the phrase "working class"

>>11246516
Yes it's amazing until the third book which is average, I want to pet Schaffa and Nassun on the head simultaneously

>started reading Dragonriders of Pern
>little over halfway through the first book
>like it enough so far
They're solid novellas but I feel like they're playing it safe, or maybe building up to a wild and wacky ending with the threat of the Threads. I guess I'll have to read the rest of the series to tell if it remains good or not, at this pace.

>>11245968
>/trash/y fantasy furbait
OwO

Do you guys think my magnum opus about sapient slugs that was given magic, used it to make android like vessels for themselves, and proceeded to indirectly infect and wipe out the human race so they take it upon themselves to start a new civilization with the infected humans and their own android subrace will win me a Hugo? I really need it. My brother keeps thinking I'm a loser.

>>11246602
Oh no

>>11246602
Dangerously furry

>>11246516
How do you feel about loving depictions of swordless swordfighting?

>>11245101
Are you planning to release the book online or self publish because would read.

>>11246604
That were given magic, not was given magic. You should read Children of Time if you haven't, it's somewhat similar

Watts' Freeze-Frame Revolution was out ages ago if you guys haven't read it. Poor Chimp holy fuck.

>>11246582
Some of my favorite books as a kid. Probably why Fantasy-Scifi and post-apocalyptic or "colonized alien world" fantasy rubs me the right way.

>>11246516
>im sure most of you hate it but objectively, is it any good?
No, it's not.

>>11246604

I really enjoy these stupid ass books, what should I keep myself busy with until the next one is out?

>>11246769
muh helldiver fingers

Could you suggest Gutenburg books to download?

I had gotten a new hard drive and I want to load up my Calibre drive.

>>11244706
What is this?

I bet you could get H. G. Wells and Lord Dunsany.

>>11246786
>>11246817

>>11246824
>Lord Dunsany
Oh wow. I do sincerely appreciate the suggestion. I'm going to research this guy. Thank you.

>>11246785
muh dead wife

>>11246824
No problem, wracking my brains for stuff that's old enough.
Looks like they have:
E. E. Smith
Robert Howard (I see Red Nails at least)
Edgar Rice Burroughs
A Voyage to Arcturus by David Lindsay (highly recommend)
Lewis Carroll
Rudyard Kipling

I'm curious to see how the series will be salvaged

Anyone reading Ward? How do you like it compared to Worm so far?

>>11246492
>one of the few fantasy series ive read that actually manages to escape from cliche
In fantasy this is like saying you escaped from your house during a blizzard.

>>11244988
The entire story is based off a dnd campaign. Just play that instead

>>11247638
>the entire story is based off a dnd campaign
Speaking of, what's the consensus on pic related?

just finished the demonata series by darren shan. Read the first few books when I was younger and just forgot about it. Pretty good series for being written for kids. If you read cirque du freak when you were a kid and want some schlocky fun i'd recommend.

>read fantasy story about a princess knight and a necromancer girl, it's angsty but a cut above the usual self-published LGBT fantasy stuff
>years later recommend book to a lesbian friend
>months after that look up the book again
>author got outed on tumblr for having molested a teenager

well that's embarrassing

>>11245968
CHANUR

>>11247780
Name of book?

>>11247780
I know that feel, man.
I once called Kevin Spacey a great actor.

>>11244706
I managed to read half of the Assassin's Blade but I can't continue. Not even for the memes. It's just so bland.

>>11247099
I don't really see much hope for that.
How many books does he plan to publish for the series.

Any educated opinions on the Warhammer novels?

>>11247681
>consensus
I didn't particularly care for Gardens but Deadhouse Gates was really good.

>>11248286
hit or miss. mostly miss. the 40k novels are better than regular warhammer.

>>11248310
Which ones would you say were on the hit side?

>advanced races in Death's End could turn 3d pigs into delicious 2d

I FUCKING WISH

>>11247099
>Jesus comes back from the dead with some head switching bullshit (cup dude is still conscious, autismgod could definitely gnosis from that state)
>kellhaus bangs mother and daughter again while sorcerer raises the kid

>>11232141
>Will Wight is giving away The Traveler's Gate trilogy for free on June 1st. He will also release Book 5 of the Cradle series that day.
>http://www.willwight.com/a-blog-of-dubious-intent/5-years-travelers-gate-trilogy-free
Where is the audiobook for book 3?

>>11247886
Dat's not /trash/y tho.

Ghostwater (Book 5 of the Cradle series) is out now!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DFWZP9C/
https://my.mixtape.moe/gpmurk.epub

>>11248850
but is it good though

>>11248859
It is absolutely epic.

>>11248791
Oh, missed that part.

I NEED A QUICK UPDATE

havent been lurking or reading really for a few months now.

>Joe Abercrombie
Any new books out or announced after Sharp Ends

>Scott Lynch
Is the next Lamora book out or announced at least?

>Brian Staveley
Anything new on the Mortal Throne series or other Spinoffs like the one with Pyrre?

>Daniel Abraham
Anything new?

Havent read The Long Price Quartet, is it worth? I was fucking amazed by the Dagger and Coin

>>11249075
>Is the next Lamora book out or announced at least?

Still no release date but possibly September in the UK according to one single British store that has a date listed that might be a placeholder.

How is riftwar saga? I really dig the Robin Hobb serieses, is this going to work?

>>11249142
>liking Robin Hobb
Are you a grill? Her's are some of the most unsatisfying books I've ever read.

>>11247681
Currently reading it, some of the book sections can drag on a bit and they are LONG books, but there's usually a good payoff, even if it makes you feel like crap for a fictional character a few days afterwards

but I'm only halfway through book 3 as well

>>11249166
Robin Hobb is one of the best fantasy authors writing today. Nobody else does melancholic storylines better, maybe that is what you find unsatisfying. There aren't always (happy) conclusions or smart decisions.

>>11249182
>Robin Hobb is one of the best fantasy authors writing today.
You should look up Brandon Sanderson and Sarah Maas.

>>11249192
> average and trash
You're assuming I don't know them already.

>>11249208
>> average and trash
You obviously don't know them. Sarah Maas even has a mega cum load.

>>11249213
I care more about her writing talents, or lack thereof, not her sex life.

>>11247486
I like the pacing and characters a lot more than Worm. Fights are a lot weaker to me though, they're harder to follow and with the protagonist's powers it seems so far it's either the person they're fighting gets curb stomped or they potentially can.

>>11247486
I tried reading it but it was too whiny so I stopped.

>>11248850
noice

>>11249166
Not even a grill. I bet most people on here enjoy her main Fitz stories. But forget that, I'm asking about riftwar

>>11249318
I like riftwar okay. It's nothing special though.

>>11249182
>>11249318
>Fitz
>tries to use the force: gets a headache
>tries to fight: gets his ass beat
>saves the state: gets dick in return, even the few people who know about this barely acknowledge it
>his wolf saved his unlucky pitiful ass more times than I care to count
>manipulated by his weirdo mime """friend""" who's lusting after his ass when not using him as a tool
>sacrifices everything for a dynasty who's success means dick to him in the big picture
This isn't a fucking fantasy adventure, this is one of those "poor British orphan boy" novels set in a fantasy world.

>>11249208
>trash
Brainlets you can't appreciate the work of a woman that graduated major cum lady sicken me.

>>11249283
Yeah, part of it is also that Taylor's power gave her a semi-omniscient view of the entire battlefield, which gave an interesting perspective that Victoria's doesn't. Can't complain that much though, characterization has been excellent, and the Ashley interlude arc is pretty kino so far.

>>11249368
I liked all of those aspects, I dont want mary sue peasant boy story #50. I just wanted Fitz to actually assassinate some fucking people.

what are some fun novels where the mage is the mc

>>11249459
the burning isle
the prince of nothing
The color mage or whatever its called series by brent weeks

>>11248850
>>11248860
WHERE ARE THE FOOKING AUDIOBOOKS YOU CUNT

>>11249424
>"assassin" trilogy
>goes on 1 (one) legitimate assassination assignment
>almost gets assassinated himself instead
I guess she named it that as a joke.

>>11249492
Doesn't exist bro. You could use TTS.

>>11249393
>major cum lady

>>11247906
"lesbian necromancer" is probably Dragonoak.

>>11248850
Thanks a lot dude, I'll have to actually buy all of his books when I stop being a beggar.

lads what are some comfy fantasy books to listen to while grinding oni-goroshi in poe?

What's some sci-fi with the feel of somewhat futuristic action movies like terminator, demolition man, running man (I know it's based on a novel but I don't really like Stephen King), total recall (this one's only a short story I think), Dredd and such?

>>11249880
How long does it take now days? Like 10 hours?

>>11249920
could take days if you're unlucky

>>11249899
The Autumn Rain series by David J. Williams maybe. Very fast paced series (IIRC all but the last third of the last book takes place over 48 hours) about stuff getting blown up.

Brigador by Brad Buckmaster was also pretty good for a tie-in novel for a indie video game. David Drake-esque violence about a platoon of power armor infantry trying to survive a coup against Great Leader.

>>11249880
>not playing molten strike jugg to brap lab and make insane currency

oh sweety

>>11249393
>major cum lady s
Without the Maas shill we wouldn't have this spicy meme. Let's give him our thanks.

I just finished the second mistborn book or whatever the series is called. Fuck me, it's so bad. I love the setting, but the writing and general planning of the book is just retarded.

>>11250438
I had enough after the first one already
sanderson is the mcdonalds of fantasy

>>11249405
I only read the first one. It was entertaining enough, not really looking to read Well of Ascension. Because I bought Oathbringer and still have to read it.

>>11250447
I wish I had stopped after the first one.

Not sure what to read next, maybe Gene's Shadow of the torturer. I've read the first book, it was at least better than the Knight. Hated the asshat protagonist in that one.

>>11250438
It's odd how variable his stuff is considering how whitebread bland it is. You'd think he'd be Clive Cussler airport novel consistent but there are these weird dips in quality.

"Have you ever shat in your shardplate?"

>>11250467
True enough. Every now and then a character says something that goes against everything that was previously established, and it's never iterated on or explained. It's like he isn't conscious to his own writing, just letting it flow out while he's zoned out like a passive drone.

Sunset found her squatting in her shardplate, groaning, every turd was smellier than the last

>>11250467
He actually addresses this is one of his lectures I watched of his on YouTube (coincidentally, the one that made me start disliking him). He talked about how it's necessary to write every day, even if you know what you're writing is bad and uninspired, because as he put it, the vast majority of your readers can't tell the difference between inspired and uninspired writing.

I know that many authors are in it for the money, but the way he was talking about it just pissed me off, bluntly saying he doesn't care if the quality of some chapters are low because the majority of readers are clueless and won't be able to tell.

>>11250491
>>11250438
If i remember his youtube lectures correctly, he sort of half plans. He has an outline but he doesn't worry about following story structure so much which likely reflects his tendency to go off rails or repeat something that was already established previously.
>>11250473
>>11250492
I already had zero intention to read Stormlight but I'm praying that isn't real. Why do authors feel the need to talk about shit?
>>11250502
this too. Writers gotta eat ya ya i get it, but consciously approving garbage because muh sweat and tears is blasphemous.

>>11250502
>>11250528
Parts of the world he has built feels original enough to have kept me going. Now I just feel bamboozled.
That attitude is just despicable though. Sure, write on your bad days, just don't publish the drivel. What a piece of shit.

>>11250451
Well off Ascension was weaker than Mistborn in every way, believe it or not.

>>11250553
I think all writers go in with differing amounts of planning and outline though, so it's not exactly a negative that he half plans. Some start with nothing at all (like George R.R. Martin) and some with everything planned from the beginning in extreme detail (Kevin J Anderson). Sanderson says that he writes with the story planned, but not with the characters planned, so he lets them make the decisions and that can sometimes change the story considerably.

any book with characters like my beloved raistlin?
dont even need to be a evil mage
just some mage who wants power

>>11244959
Great fighter that loses in other situations?
Challenge your characters, create someone who cant lose in a sword fight but is forced to fight without it against someone twice his/her size.
You dont have to relegate her to mediocrity, there is nothing bad in having someone skilled in any field in a book.

Problem with Mary Sues isnt that they are great at something, its that they are great at everything.
You can have her get fucked figuratively not literally, or both in a serious street brawl, lose her confidence,any willingness to fight again only to pick up her weapon again, or make her to rely on others, or just make her avoid fights she cant win, you know some actual journey with some actual difficulties that require solutions that cant be pulled out of the ass on the spot.

>>11250575
I can respect that, most people can't realize multiple characters and plan out a complete narrative without iteration. When he establishes characters, their relationships and knowledge of the world around them and then blatantly disregards or forgets these traits it gets a tad hard to stay immersed though.

>>11250502
>the vast majority of your readers can't tell the difference between inspired and uninspired writing.

Sanderson droppin' megaton yield truth bombs on genre fiction fans.

>>11245312
Best Heinlein book
He dosnt come off as such a preachy baby boomer as he does in his other books

>>11250590
Yeah, that's very poor editing. Things like that shouldn't make it past the first draft, and definitely not the second or third. But his editor probably shares his mindset and thinks no one will notice

>>11250502
>Sanderson is trash
who would've thunk

>>11250590
>Reading Sanderson for the story

All a good Sanderson joint needs is some shardblades and coin pulling and it's 10/10.

>>11250502
do you have a link/timestamp to this?

>>11250502
Got a link to the lecture in question? I know somebody who

>>11250624
sniped by a sanderfag
RIP anon

>>11250618
>>11250624
Unfortunately no. I don't recall which video series, but it was the first lecture in one of them. There aren't many, but I don't feel like rewatching them to find which it was. I'm sure he goes through the same jive in each of them though, so he probably says a derivative at the beginning of each lecture series.

>>11250647
groped by a grim dickbag
megatron

>>11245383
*dehorses you with a catch-pole*
*takes you back to our forest lair*
Any other 'knight', and we would just turn you lose and sell the armour. Not you though.
*plunges dick into knight's pussy*

This shit is good at times but such a drag. I'm on book 8 and it feels like it's never going to end.

>>11250799
Book 8 was the slowest for me. Parts of it just felt completely self indulgent and totally unneeded. I've heard that he wrote book 8 while depressed, and it shows if that is true. I want to say book 9 is livelier, but it really isn't. It's basically the setup for the much more interesting book 10.

Give me a fantasy book that isn't a series of 20 books not including novella prequels.

is malazan as good as people make it out to be?

>>11250799
Do you think its worth reading if i enjoy writing large casts? I picked up GotM to hopefully learn a thing or two.
>>11250570
If i didn't care for the action but enjoyed the ballrooms and politics/intrigue (as bare as they were) is it worth reading? The usual anecdotes say WoA is slow and boring but that might be exactly what I'm looking for.

>>11250853
It has an ENORMOUS cast of characters so I would say yes. It's also much more well written than Fartin

>>11250866
>Fartin
You mean GRRM? If so, he's what got me interested in large casts but i can agree that so much more can be done. I've heard Hyperion is another i should read due to multiple POVs.

>>11250884
Yes that's what I call that tub of lard.
Really though if you want a 10,000+ page sprawling epic with literally hundreds of unique characters & races, complex magic systems, tragic endings, philosophical meanderings,& slow burns I'd say it's for you

>>11250799
Looks like a female protag. 0/10

>>11250901
Malazan, I mean. Haven't read Hyperion but plan to at some point.Once you read Erikson for so long, it's hard to adjust to other fantasy writers because he's well above the amateur shit spilling out today

>>11250908
Not really. Most of the POV characters are male

Thanks to the Anon that posted the link to the Nebula Award winners and nominees.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/20/17368312/nebula-awards-2017-winners-science-fiction-fantasy-nk-jemisin-martha-wells

I've read two great short stories and a novella so far.

Fandom for Robots by Vina Jie-Min Prasad was great
Welcome to Your Authentic Indian Experience TM by Rebecca Roanhorse won but I didn't like it...
Utopia, LOL? by Jamie Wahls was pretty good too.

Martha Well's All Systems Red Murderbot novella won and was hilarious. I devoured it and the sequel. Now I have to wait a few months for the next one to be released...

>>11250936
Jesus christ that looks absolutely fucking horrific

>>11250936
>those three titles
I don't even need to be an elitist to dislike them based on their names

>>11250936
>Welcome to Your Authentic Indian Experience TM

If I didn't know any better I'd think this was written by /pol/

>>11250936
I wondered how Murderbot won with how simple and cookie cutter it was, but hearing the titles of its competition cleared that up.

>>11250936
>the STATE of literature awards

>>11250936
>devoured

It's not that I don't trust /sffg/'s recommendations but are there any good podcasts that review SFF books?

>>11250936

>Author named his protag after himself

>>11246614

>>11247780
Pedos are rampant in the homosexual community. You should have known better

>>11248850
Nice I’ve been enjoying these. Halfway through book four

>>11250438
I dropped it about 70% through the 2nd

>>11250828
No it’s just a meme

>>11250936
So sad puppies were right I guess

>>11251346
I name mine after the other name my parents were tossing up between for me. The love interest is the name my parents were going to use if I was a gril

>>11251441
No. Just read some of their books and find out they are terrible.

>>11250813
The King of Elfland's Daughter

>>11251460
>I name mine after the other name my parents were tossing up between for me.
You fool, this is how you come up with your pen name, not your characters' names.

Just got back from the bookseller. Buddy tried to shill me Rothfuss when I said I wanted a good intrigue plot with a large cast.

>>11251608
>rothfuss
>intrigue
admittedly, i only read the first half of NotW, but wat

>>11251608
go back there with you're ar-15

>>11251644
>>11251646
He also tried to get me to read Dresden and Rainbow Six, and something about a bitch in a library. I walked out with Book of the New Sun.

>>11251680
what a chad

>>11251680
i clapped! i clapped when you said book of the new sun!

in case that wasn't a shitpost, enjoy it, BotNS is the first SF&F book ive ever read that inspired me to write because it was so good and not because i went "wow, *this* can get published?"
also as a serious rec, Hyperion might entertain you, though the intrigue plot isn't really at the forefront

>>11251721
Not shitposting but you might find that hard to believe when i tell you i also bought King/Emperor of Thorns, 3 Body Problemo, and The Dinosaur Lords. I might give Hyperion a try because I want to write a story with a large scope and cast but there doesn't seem to be much to consult. You know any good intrigue titles that weave multiple threads?

>>11244959
this picture confuses me, it look so wholesome but it's smut

>>11251748
>I might give Hyperion a try because I want to write a story with a large scope and cast but there doesn't seem to be much to consult. You know any good intrigue titles that weave multiple threads?
well without spoiling anything, Hyperion is a sci-fi take on Canterbury Tales where a group of "pilgrims" go to a planet under siege by a destructive force, and it's implied at the outset that one of the pilgrims is a spy for that force
each tells their story about why they think they were chosen as pilgrims, and you follow their travel through the eyes of the Consul, who is trying to figure out who the spy is based on their stories
so yeah i'd recommend that
the intrigue is more a thread connecting the individual stories, but it's pretty cool

>>11251762
Right on I'll probably give it a go. I also heard there was some nice bob and vagene play so maybe that will do it for me if the rest doesn't.
>>11251760
Pretty unfortunate eh. I get so tired of seeing otherwise wonderful works desecrated by the usual degeneracy.

Storm it!

Any fantasy book that has a similar aesthetic to the Xenoblade series?

>>11251971
>when u realize is not taurwoman

>>11251937
Blood and bloody ashes!

>>11249075
I didn't enjoy Long Price Quartet but I'm in the minority, most people seem to think it was great. So go for it.

>>11249459
the last unicorn

>>11250936

murderbot diaries. sounds fucking horrible. naturally a woman writer.

>>11251937
>>11252006
Gotta say one thing I'm loving about Wolfhound Empire is Peter Higgins doesn't censor the dialogue. Plenty of fuck bombs and I'm only 120 pages in. You could see it as trying to be edgy but I'll take that over Sanderson tier swears any day. At least its realistic.

>>11251195
ok but thanks for the 7th (You)

>>11252091
What's wrong with Sanderson swears? Too sparking cool for them, slontze?

>>11252101
>slontze
please explain this. the storm shit i can understand but that's pure autistic talent.

>>11252291
Slontze is from Reckoners. It means idiot or something. Please stay up to date on non-cosmere lore.

>>11252091
Not like cursing is rare in fantasy. Since the 80s it's actually become more common thanks to the growing popularity of gritty "dark" fantasy. A lot of the series I read anymore have plenty of people saying "fuck" "shit" "cunt" etc.

>>11252091
Hood's balls, I hate you people

>>11252324
(and that's a good thing)
I'm new to reading so that gives me hope
>>11252306
>Please stay up to date on non-cosmere lore
kek, will do Mr. Sanderson.
Btw, you should really stop molesting gummy bears in educational facilities. Mormon or no mormon, eventually someone is going to complain and you'll have no choice but to shoehorn more diversity and feminism to appease the not-so well-read flabber beasts that make up the majority of your following. i.e. me

>>11252360
peace and love brothor. your aggression is unfounded.

>>11250597
>preachy baby boomer
He was born more than 30 years to early to be a boomer. Other than that, you're correct.

>>11248015
>one of my friends was a huge fan of Kevin Spacey
>even wear shirts with his face on them
>Spacey is outed as a rapist
>my friend keeps wearing the shirts
>mfw

>>11251680
>I walked out with Book of the New Sun
And suddenly your friends from /sffg/ were outside the shop applauding and your friend was sucking your dick. Well done.

>>11252861
I snuck a slight read of it already -- even though I'm currently committed to another book -- and immediately felt like discovery writing. Truly the patrician choice.
>>11252856
I got a buddy who worshipped that man. Thanks for reminding me of his hilarious week-long whimpering

Hey guys are you actually a bunch of retards? Right now I'm listening to three commies talk about how executing a guy wasn't on them because they weren't rewarded for it. Before that it was a twenty minutes manual of how to sabotage a ground wire. The whole thing is sparkled with soulless gook descriptions and metaphors. Why is this shit so highly regarded by you? Or will final 25% actually stop being retarded?

>>11250502
So i gather you were published, right? Please show me your work with 100k+ words filled with inspiration. The vast majority of a book doesn't need to be "inspired" just like most of a painting doesn't need to be perfectly detailed, what it needs is a groundwork for a focal point where most of the "inspiration" and detail is concentrated to shine.

>>11253029
no, you will never stop being retarded (just as op -- who famously started this thread -- will never cease to be a bundle of sticks) some things extend beyond the reach of time.

>>11253029
>reading gookshit
what did you expect?

>>11253029
What shit are you talking about?

>>11253029
Only people who graduate Magna Cum Laude will understand.

New thread:
>>11253249
>>11253249
>>11253249

>>11251386
>Halfway through book four
are you me? totally stalled out i cant handle the whole series going from "gotta get stronger" to "oh no something bad happened"