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Sometimes, I'm paralyzed by the thought that when I die, literally everything ceases to exist. No sight, no sound, no thought, nothing for all of eternity.

>inb4 become religious

I'm desperately trying to believe but its so goddamn hard.

>> No.11241598

>>11241549
Either it's just a long, dark sleep, or there's more beyond death. Either way sounds comfy enough, I think that's from Plato.

The Death of Ivan Ilyich was uncomfortable at first read, but after thinking about it later, I feel better about death.

The Bible and some works by the Saints are a good place to start otherwise. Their faith is inspiring

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>>11241549
>mfw have never been afraid of death.
I can't tell if I'm just a soulless autist or if I haven't seriously thought about it and weighed it up, that is, haven't considered deeply the finality of it. But then again, I've read lots of literature that deals extensively with death and how to come to terms with it, like the writings of Montaigne, Seneca, Donne, etc, so maybe I've taken their writings to heart and do in fact have a healthy attitude towards it. I've never been pathological about death though. The thought of it has never frightened me, even when I was a child. I feel like to properly appreciate death, one would need to have been faced with the immediate possibility of it, which I never have.

Death, be not proud, though some have called thee
Mighty and dreadful, for thou art not so;
For those whom thou think'st thou dost overthrow
Die not, poor Death, nor yet canst thou kill me.
From rest and sleep, which but thy pictures be,
Much pleasure; then from thee much more must flow,
And soonest our best men with thee do go,
Rest of their bones, and soul's delivery.
Thou art slave to fate, chance, kings, and desperate men,
And dost with poison, war, and sickness dwell,
And poppy or charms can make us sleep as well
And better than thy stroke; why swell'st thou then?
One short sleep past, we wake eternally
And death shall be no more; Death, thou shalt die.

>> No.11241703

>>11241598
does a sleep in which you never wake up truly sound comfy to you? That kinda that terrifies me

>>11241673
Trust me, I used to think exactly like you until I had a near death experience. Finally realizing that death is quick, can happen at anytime and cares not about a person's hopes and dreams fucked me up real good.

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>not wanting to feel how you feel when you're asleep

>> No.11241729

Nothing really will.

>> No.11241732

>>11241703
>and cares not about a person's hopes and dreams

What a good thing it is then that I don't have any.

>> No.11241757

Eternity is a concept that is understood by the mind, and the mind exists only insofar as the man exists. If you are dead, then the man does not exist, and so eternity is nothing to you, as there is no "you" (in death).

When you die, namely when the man that could previously be defined as "you" is in a state of death (DEAD), then there is no "everything" left to not exist. There is no sight or sound omitted to mourn, because "sight" and "sound" are not there. There is no "thing", no subject no object, no sensation, no time -- there is no observation, no man, no nothing.

You did not exist before you were born, correct? Do you recall that eternity which prevailed before you were born with antipathy? Does it stick out in your mind as particularly frightening? Well, no. For there was no mind for anything to stick to.

Read Phaedo, OP. Should take you two days to read and two weeks/months to understand.
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/phaedo.html

>> No.11241759

>>11241703
I find the idea of an eternal sleep unsettling, but the idea of dying just like falling asleep doesn't sound so bad in that it doesn't seem like you would even know you wouldn't be waking up again.

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>>11241549
Try this one. First four books of the New Testament.

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Obligatory

>> No.11241836

is it supposed to be something that can be figured out by reason alone just like that? like some sort of epiphany?