/lit/ - Literature

bump

>>11237206
Yep. It's great.

>>11237206
I've read several of Mishima's works. I haven't found a single bad one yet.

>>11237206
It's good, more drastic than confessions of a mask. Not Mishima's greatest work though, I liked Runaway Horses and the sailor who fell from grave with the sea more.

>>11238963
Kyoko's house is by far his greatest

>>11239313
give me a link to the ebook, thank you

>>11239323
>Kyoko's house
as far as I know still not translated to eng

>Shunsuke's long winded speeches that don't really mean anythning

What did Mishima mean by this? Was he making fun of a rival novelist?

>>11240005

Shunsuke has spent his life creating art he hates, now he has Yuichi to manipulate he considers it his greatest piece of art. So he has a confidence boost and starts thinking he's an artistic genius, this is why he does the speeches

His rants are meant to be boring, I don't think you're meant to like Shunsuke, but they also display how Shunsuke is preoccupied with suffering and if left to his own devices he would create more suffering in the world.

This contrasts with Yuichi, who isn't a destructive person and is just impressionable and easily manipulated.

>>11240053
I think I need to read this book because the description of that dynamic really hit me for some reason.

>>11240109

the relationship between Yuichi and Shunsuke is super interesting, only a writer like Mishima could have thought it up.

Basically Shunsuke is an old writer who hates women because of bad marriages, he runs into Yuichi who is in his early 20s and engaged to a girl. Yuichi confesses to Shunsuke that he is gay and instead of saying he should call of the marriage, Shunsuke convinces him to go through with it specifically because it will cause suffering for his wife.

It gets a lot deeper than that but that's how it starts.

Haven't read it, but if you're interested I uploaded his short play "Primary Colours" a few years ago on bookzz which is considered a companion piece

>>11240644

post plz

Good thread, will read this.

>>11237206
is it gay or is it okay to read?

>>11241368
Gay and great to read

>>11241374
sorry, i dont read homoerotic stuff.

>>11241379
Well, you're too immature to read one of the best writers of the 20th century. Your loss.

>>11241404
it's matter of taste, not about maturity. it's nobody's loss

this is like the only novel of mishimas where there is no epub :(

>>11241425
I'm a heterosexual man and I love Mishima. It's not erotic literature, if that's what you're thinking. It's just that a gay author is going to deal with themes of homosexuality in his books.
You should really give Mishima a shot.

>>11241455
ok, pal, will go into it open-minded.

>>11241455

to be fair there are a lot of sexy times in the book

Mishima visited a lot of gay bars whilst writing this claiming it was for ''research''

>>11241425
retard

>>11241437
You what, I found it on b-ok in five seconds

>>11241455
>gay author
Not true. This has been debunked again and again in previous Mishima threads. Do you really want to lose this debate again, Shlomo? I will liberalize this board from your homosexual postmodernist propaganda!

>>11243827
idk turning fucking men into a social construct that doesn't apply to honorabru japanman sounds pretty postmodern

>>11241404
>one of the best writers of the 20th century
weebs OUT

>>11243827

>Mishima wasn't gay

Do you actually believe this?

>>11244006
He experienced homosexual desire that far outstripped any heterosexual desire he may have had. He was not a "gay man" by 20th century western standards but he was homosexually aligned regardless of context

>>11243827
This. "Colours" isn't the same thing as the western concept of homosexuality. Labels label me not.

>>11246010

he uses the term ''homosexual'' repeatedly in Forbidden Colours