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Because those are the people you spend time with so obviously they're not lonely

>>11181195
They're not my friends, just work colleagues and relatives.

>>11181080
>How am I supposed to keep believing that Western society is lonelier, more isolated, more fragmented
you don't

>>11181080
>How am I supposed to keep believing that Western society is lonelier, more isolated, more fragmented etc than ever when 90%+ of the people I spend time with have loving partners, are buying their first homes etc?
You have to look at the statistical frequency of that behavior compared to what it was 50-100 years ago if you want to determine whether or not we're lonelier

>>11181201
Then why the fook would they tell you if they feel lonely? Alone =/= lonely.

Anyway, the answer to your question is 'by reading actual research on the subject and not relying on your partial view of a negligible fraction of society'. Not sure which research but there must be quite a bit out there.

At 15, you think of your 20
at 20 you think of your 25
at 25, you think of your 30
at 30, well this one is big, you think of your 35 and 40
at 35, you think of your 40 and 45
at 40, you think of your 50
at 45 you think of you 55 and 60

until 25 you think about your pleasures ahead

at 25, you wonder whether hedonism or suicide is all there is to life, but you fail to find an escape, especially to find a solution on your own. So why not do what everybody else does, after it cannot be so bad if so many people do it?
But of course, you know that you are too scared to pull off suicide and even worse, you hear that ''suicide is for pussies'', plus you tell yourself that it would make your mom cry. So you stick to hedonism and try to make your life full of ''good moments''

you clearly despise to be alone
(this applies to men only, since women cannot be alone naturally)

at 30 you still have not seen anything outside hedonism, so you stick to it and strive for it.
You know that junk food and beer take their toll and you hit the gym but you notice that 25 yo men have been already the gym for a few years already while claiming that ''they do not do it for girls, they swear''


at 35 you fully know that trying to keep being a normie is draining and requires means that you do not have, even worse, means that other people have, more or less for free or without much effort, but not you [typically for housing, where the babyboomers have the power on the estate market and girls]

at 40 you begin to think that being a normie is worth it, especially if you think that 30-yo gf is not cucking you or bear ''your'' child

>>11181080
It’s over for us boyos

>>11181212
at 45, you wonder, jsut like your gf approaching 40 (but you do not know it), whether breaking up is not an option and you want to ''offer the best to your kids'', you go fantasizing about being a fullon libertarian with a light touch of leftism, so that you can justify sticking to hedonism and helping your kids, but clearly, and you are even pride of this, you stick to playing by the rules of the game of the baby boomers so that perhaps, one day, you would have all their riches

at 50, you just want to retire and see your daughter avoid marrying (whatever you put behind) ''the pleb'' but you are happy that some guy chooses to provide for her (just like you did at his age) or rather you build a sweet certitude that your daughter will do well without too much work on your side... You want your children to find a job instead of costing you money, especially the boy since boys end up too many times back to their room (for a few years)


at 65, After some of your acquaintances have died or been ill, You fear cancer more and more and you think that, all those years, your wife was right to be a ball breaker about pesticides on apples and salads and that she sticks to organic products.

your 60 yo wife drags you to some ''meditation learning course'' where you are taught that ''the capitalist society is wrong in making people consume more and more and happiness is just being nice to people and letting go'' and you must learn to ''follow your breath'' while crossing your legs 15 minutes a day. It hurts your knees too much to do it, so you do not do it.

You are also at peace with cucking. You even think that it is expected and that ''everybody is a cuck anyway''.

you tell your children that it is worth it to be a normie.

>>11181211
I mean literally speaking they aren't isolated, because they all have partners. Some are planning to have babies, others are buying a first home.

It actually hurt me a lot when I thought about what my mental state would be like if there was not a culturally accepted notion that life is simply lonelier today. I feel reassured that loneliness is so prevalent today, because it makes me feel like less of a piece of shit.

>>11181214
Do you recommend this?

I read "Burnout Society", which was also written by an Asian.

You're not spending time with the lonely people...

>>11181214
Quick rundown?

Is there a /lit/ chart for contemporary sociology?

>>11181080
Do you feel lonely and isolated?

>>11181692
OP here. Yes I do. And I am isolated, physically speaking. I have no friends. I have no girlfriend. My relationship with my remaining family members isn't all that close. I just walked home from the crowded supermarket and I started crying on the way. When I got to my room a few minutes ago I thought I was going to cry a lot, but I can no longer even cry in a competent manner and ended up sobbing into a towel in a self-conscious way before returning to the internet.

>>11181080
>90%+ of the people I spend time with have loving partners
how hte fuck

>>11181912
neet life is best life for lonesome people

>>11181080
Just go on tinder or okcupid and go on dates with any girl that matches you. It will build up your confidence and eventually you will find someone who you want to be in a relationship with. It's not that difficult, you just have to exert a bit of effort. Dating apps are a godsend for introverted loners.

>>11181080
90% of the people i interact with are white so my country must be 90% white.

>>11182180
Fuck off degenerate. Dating apps are the death knell of the West.

>>11181080
who the fuck are you meeting? not the lonely isolated people, obviously you fucking faggot

>>11182197
who cares, it was bound to happen anyway

>>11182197
>Dating apps are the death knell of the West.

Says on an anime imageboard

>>11182197
virgin detected

>>11181242
Second

>>11182180

>>11182728
lmao. basedboys btfo

>>11182197
It's not a death knell — in the way that it is not something characteristic of our society or age. People used to have things similar to dating apps — parties, salones, town and rural festivals, balls, etc. Now it became totally quicker and effective to find a mate with dating apps, and they also save us a large amount of shame, but the impulse behind it is old as the world. We need to meet people, some way or another, and dating apps are just as good as long as they work.
Personally, I don't use them, because it's still to emberassing for me to create a social representation of myself and I'm kinda old-fashioned when it comes to meeting people — I prefer go to parties, even if I don't originally want to — just to meet new people.

>>11182728
What the fuck happened in 2010

>>11181912
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>11182773
Smartphones/social media, looks became the dominant reproductive strategy.

>>11181212
>>11181217

>>11181080
She looks like a boy.

>>11182815
That's how pretty girls look like.

>>11182788
they always have been you brainlet
dating apps have just made it much easier to meet attractive people and arrange to fuck

>>11181242
>>11182726
'to desire is to suffer. stop being a pussy about it'

>>11182824
>they always have been you brainlet
humans have not always had immediate access to thousands upon thousands of eligible sex partners from which they may select, risk-free, those they wish to engage. this is very, very, very new technology.