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What is /lit/ mandatory nihilism reading? Ive read plenty of psedo crap but I want to get into more interesting reads. So far my compiled list for the summer is:

>pic related
>conspiracy against the human race by ligotti
> selected writtings of batile
>the last messiah by zapffe
>gift of death by derrida

>> No.11164478

MICHELSTAEDTER

Mainlander, Leopardi

>> No.11164509

read something that actually has meaning

stop putting disillusionment on a pedestal because you are scared

>> No.11164530

>>11164472
>gift of death by derrida

Not sure if it counts, Derrida is in a weird category of his own called something like "2deep4u" or "it's more complex than that man!" where you can't even call him a nihilist.

>> No.11164574

>>11164472
Baudrillard (later work especially, cool memories, lucidity pact and The Illusion of the End spring to mind)
Schopenhauer and Nietzsche obviously
I guess Nick Land if you're autistic
Zygmunt Bauman (not ardent nihilist like the others but his critiques ring true)
Ciorans other work is good too

Also there's a really depressing novel by M J Harrison (like ligotti it bridges essay nonfiction with a literary narrative) called 'the course of the heart' which I recommend to anyone interested in nihilism/sad shit. It is well written and presents a lucid thesis about what makes reality so unbearably awful without succumbing to naive sentimentality. It involves gnostic and alchemical occult ideas to good effect. A really decent book.

Along the same lines I recommend the fiction of Shirley Jacksonnand Anna Kavan who both similarly use fictionalized stories involving the supernatural to convey a hopelessly shit world and their dim view of people.

>> No.11164575

>>11164472
Simon Critchley if you want more about nihilism and death

Also

Ray Brassier - Nihilism Unbound

Not clear cut nihilism, but Maurice Blanchot is interested in Being without subject/meaning and the meaninglessness of death

>> No.11164586

>>11164574
>course of the heart

what does he say in it, sounds really interesting

>> No.11164606

>>11164574
Hmmm... Given how broad the term nihilism is used, Lyotard should fit right in. I'm surprised how rarely he is mentioned, even among postmodernists (or lists of them) given that his most famous book is called The Postmodern Condition.

>> No.11164623

>>11164586
A lot of aphorisms about the Pleroma and the sadness of being separate from it and the trauma of making connection with it and the terrible possibility that it doesn't even exist in the way we hope but that this is the one true world.

Sorry that's a terrible description, it is a really tightly written book but its hard to form a thesis statement from it. I just dug it out now and immediately felt the cold surge of sadness from reading just a few sentences. Highly recommend

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>>11164606
Now that the dust has settled, what did he mean by this?

>> No.11164636

>>11164623
aw that sounds fuckin' rad and exactly what I've been thinking about lately, the incurable sadness of finitude and all that jazz, is it online anywhere

>> No.11164677

>>11164636
Don't know, was lucky enough to find a secondhand copy. His books can be hard to find apart from the more genre friendly SciFi ones.

Also Thomas M Disch does short stories similar to what you're after, a good collection is 'Getting into Death'

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>> No.11165941

The Philosophy of Disenchantment by Edgar Saltus

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>>11164472
>on the heights of despair
pseudo-nihilist, does not value "despair"
>conspiracy against the human race
pseudo-nihilist, "consciousness was a mistake" is a value judgment
>batile
probably a pseudo-nihilist desu
>zapffe
definitely a pseud, "the last and greatest messiah will lead us to death" lmoa
>gift of death
title reeks of pseudo-nihilism

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>>11164478
Leopardi wasn't really a nihilist

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go back to the roots

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/friedrich-jacobi/