/lit/ - Literature

>>11147501
moriarty

>>11147501
me
from my diary desu

>>11147511
>tfw the teachers will never found out who rubbed vaseline all over the door handles

White men
From All of history

Milady de Winter of course, no one else even close.

>>11147501
Hamlet

>>11147501
milton's lucifer. captain ahab also

>>11147501
Milton's Satan

>>11147520
> mfw neighbors never discovered who made the condom balloons

God from the Bible

>>11147501
Jesus

So far fro what i've read, the Judge in blood meridian.
I am just breaking into the cannon though so i might find better antagonists

inb4 Judge Holden

Dark-horse candidate: Iago

Ahab

>>11147572
>>11147584
Oops.

>>11147501

Iago

Holden Caulfield

>>11147591
This, he wrote the rules on manipulation

>>11147501

Adolf Hitler.

Written by God.

>>11147533
More of this type of villain?

The underground man.

>>11147738
Go Nagai's Satan

Humbert Humbert actually wins many readers over. That’s a pretty good trick.

Robert Neville

>>11147747
im not a mangafag

>>11147508
Literally what's his motivation
>I need to show everyone how smart I am!!

>>11147739
The underground man is too pathetic to be a villain

>>11147501
Rand al'Thor, all the way until Robert Jordan pussied out with the reintegration. His descent into madness and evil was perfect.

>>11147501
Elliot Roger from My Twisted World

>>11147762
so is milton's satan

>>11147501
Char Aznable

>>11147501
Holden Caulfield.

Chigur from No Country For Old Men is pretty /lit/

Highest-IQ:
>Judge Holden, Hannibal Lecter

Most Awesome Only-A-Whisker-From-Hero:
>Satan (Paradise Lost), Darth Vader

Most Loathsome, Cold, Destructive:
>Iago, Jason Compson

Most Terrifying Non-Human:
>Grendel

Nastiest Female:
>Nurse Ratched, Goneril & Regan, Cathy Ames

Best Evil-Female-You-Secretly-Want-To-Save-From-Herself:
>Milady de Winter

>>11147501
Vautrin from Balzac's Lost Illusions and SaMoaC.
Madam Verdurin from ISOLT
V. from V.

>>11147501
cthulhu

>>11147511
the police will never find the bodies....

>>11147501
God

>>11147802
>no Lady Macbeth
>no Avril Mondragon
>Darth Vader

might aswell list all the guys from Marvel comics, Harry Potter, and Diary of Bridget Jones

>>11147501
Griffith - the supreme rapist - from the Golden Age arc in Berserk, the stuff before and after Golden Age is not *as* good, but GA itself is the best story ever written by man. If an apt author had written this into a novel, it would be phenomenal.

>>11148154
I'd usually shit on manga faggotry in these threads but griffith is based

>>11147520
>teachers will never find out who pissed all over the stall in the church's bathroom
R A G I E W A G I E S B T F O

>>11147533
This. One of the best characters ever written period.
It's incredible how Milton could make him so sympathetic and compelling despite being a staunchly believing Christian.

>>11148194
>It's
called vision, anon. Imagination.
Milton? No. Anyone else? Yes.

>>11147703
Which book?

>>11147802
>highest IQ
Anasurimbor Kellhus

>>11147501
Milton's satan from paradise lost

Oedipus

>>11147781
True but at least Milton's Satan had plans and followed them through. The Underground Man didn't even know what he was meant to be angry at

>>11147501
gaunter o dimm from witcher 3

unironically, a fucking video game created a better villain than any book ever could

The Joker

The Witches
The Whale
Dorian Gray
Aphrodite
Shoutout to Typhon.

Thanos

>>11147501
The main protagonist in this didn't tout philosophical bullshit. His evil wasn't romanticized or glorified. It was the kind you could wake up too and see on the news. It was completely human.

God in the Bible

>>11147501

Odysseus

>>11148154
>>11148166
Stop watching kids shows

>>11148513
I was talking about the graphic novel, not a show.

>>11148523
>a comic book

even worse

>>11148533
Your missing out on a religious experience with the Golden Age arc, but to each his own.

>>11148509
How is Odysseus the villain? Am I a brainlet and missed something?

>>11148566
Its a joke because he was very egotistical

>>11147501
Thanos

>>11148154
Lost Children > Black Swordsmen > Golden Age

>>11147738
I tend to agree with the argument that Milton's Satan is what became the prototype for the Romantic Hero, so you could really comb the nineteenth century for a number of examples. Ahab comes most prominently to mind.
The way that Milton's Satan perverts the truth is a lot like Iago.

>>11147501
Humbert

Shylock.

Ivan Karamazov

the jews

Not complex but Javert is my favorite character archetype

>>11149536
I was legit shocked when he iced himself after having confronted such a difficult ethical dilemma.

AM from i have no mouth, and i must scream

>>11148704
he did nothing wrong

>He is in you all

mary tyrone

Hethor and Baldanders from The Book of the New Sun are pretty fucking evil.

>>11147501
Ellsworth Toohey from the Fountainhead

>>11147591
Came to post this.

>>11147501
Iago?

Macbeth

>>11147802
this post screams reddit

>>11147501
Richard III
Vronsky
Lord Henry Wotton

>>11147511
>tfw my old flatmate will never know that a ejaculated in her favourite teacup

Turin in Children of Hurin

>>11147501
Unironically Walter O'Dim - Randal Flag

>>11147501
Milton's Satan

>best written
Moby Dick
>most complex
Ishmael

>>11147501
The greatest villain of all time is an insidious beast who threatens the entire future of literature itself, through atheism childishness and liberalism. It will not rest until no literature except YA and shitty science fiction exists.

The villains name?
Reddit

All they like is 1984 and game of thrones. They have no appreciation for real classics like Ulysses, gravitys rainbow and infinite jest. We must destroy them before they destroy pur livelihood

>>11150668
Pure unfiltered redditness

>>11150670
Faggot. You probably read hitchikers guide redditfag. Leave now

>>11147752
Underrated response.

>Reading books with villains

Enjoy your near genre fiction

>mfw my vile machinations are so subtle /lit/ barely thinks of me

the mc's struggle they must overcome
every book

>>11149536
Definitely one of the most tragic.

>>11150949

He's good, and actually he is the only evil main character in Shakespeare, which is something of a distinction.
He always gets a bit overshadowed by Iago, though. I mean if I had both of them in a room and only two bullets in my gun, Iago is getting double-tapped, no question.

>>11150999

inb4 Macbeth - I meant Richard is the only purely evil MC. Macbeth is a tragic hero who makes some sub-optimal life choices.

>>11147501
Shylock played as a pissed off Jew with something to prove.

>>11150999
Richard III was one of Shakespeare's earlier plays, Othello was one of his later. Take the two plays together and we see Shakespeare's development and improvement as a writer. He's decided to recycle the Gloucester character in the form of Iago. So we're seeing the same thing but the second is a more mature and developed version. It's like with Beethoven, you can see him fiddling about in C minor, finding different solutions as he progressed as a composer.

>>11148332
>It's
called cuckoldry, anon. Submission.
Anon? No. Anyone else? Yes.

>>11148566
No, you're just a straight white man.

>>11147790
Came here for THIS

>>11148482
Nah, Bane is better

>>11148506
This, Led Luthor and Norman Osborn

>>11151268
*Lex
Shit

>>11151268
>Bane is better
Bigger does not equal better

>>11151302
At least he's got a goal, the Joker is just an edgy, unfunny character who tries to get even edgier every time.

God.

>>11151302
for you

But we all know that MCU Thanos is the most complex character of all time, let alone villain?

>>11149591
Wasn't the whole point that the whale wasn't really a villain, though? It'd be like saying a hurricane or a earthquake was a villain.

>>11149674

>>11151173
Got that right. Love ya, senpai.

>>11151592
He was the biggest vilan

>>11151004
And how is Iago not a purely evil MC?

>>11152250
He was really bummed about that whole promotion thing

Broey
He's even a frog.

The Boogeyman

>>11152277
That may be a catalyst but isn't the point that he doesn't really have an excuse - he just hates the world around him and wants to fuck shit up?

>>11147501
Frankenstein's monster

>>11148566
Odysseus was kind of a dick. Dante put him in hell for a reason

>>11147501
Frollo from Hunchback of Notre Dame

>>11147520
>tfw the neighbour did find out who shat in their crib

>>11147884
>Madam Verdurin from ISOLT
Just finished Swann's Way, hearty kek.

>>11152250
>>11152277
>>11152429

Iago isn't a main character.

>>11152913

I mean he isn't THE main character of the play he's in, as Gloucester is in Richard III.

>>11149795
dead meme

>>11147501
John Galt from Atlas Shrugged or any of Rand's "heroes"

>>11147940
kek

>>11152429
>be a smart, albeit a vindictive person
>work hard
>you hope to get a promotion
>your boss fucks you over and promotes some cute twink that wasn't even in your group before (and for some pety political reasons, Iago had the backing of venetian senators, maybe his wife blew them to "make her husband a king")
>there are rumors in your home that a black person fucked your wife (like Iago said it doesn't matter if it's true or not, people will make a mockery out of him regardless)
>you are some milquetoast guy while Cassio is cute and popular
>Othello gets a cute loyal, waifu-tier partner, while you are living with a xanthippe
>all those idiots are doing marvellously while you are treated like trash
>get tired of it and start wanting them to suffer too.
Good Iago is scum but I can really see where he's coming from.

>>11152432
The monster did nothing wrong.
Dr. makes monster
>pls love me dad
No, you're gross
>pls give gf
Ok, jk BTFO
>I'm going to kill everyone you love to show you what I feel

>>11148509
t. A roman

>>11153440
Again, those could be catalysts but almost no one else would carry things out the way he did. Throughout the play all those reasons are represented as being sort of passively given and the degree of malice he displays is disproportionate. It's not like the people he was around were bad, they were just disagreeable to him, and he destroyed them for it.

>>11147501
Ozymandias

>>11147501
The Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes

>>11154944
he saved trillions though

>>11152921
He has more lines than Othello

>>11147501
Joffrey, the good king - I love this guy.

>>11154912
That's why I said that he's scum, he actually found joy in his malice and even with all these reasons he was a monster, I just don't agree with the sentiment that he did it just for teh lulz

>>11147802
where is professor umbridge???

>>11152921

That doesn't make him the main character.

Godot has no lines *at all* but he's still the main character of HIS play :P

>>11148466
You do realize he is Mephistopheles, right?

victor frankenstein