/lit/ - Literature

>>11128755
I've never met a pothead worth speaking to let alone discussing philosophy with

It looked like dog poop in the thumbnail. I believe you'd get more enjoyment out of smearing dank poop onto the pages of difficult philosophical texts, because it would increase your satisfaction in understanding the text in forcing you to undergo more laborious efforts to read, valuing the pieces you can grasp with heightened emotion, whereas blinding your reason with drugs will only make you believe you're getting more out of the work. If you were reading a lot of lovely nonsense, like G.K. Chesterton, for example, drugs would probably make the experience more valuable, but for valuable philosophy definitely no; and you should also fast for a few days and then eat fruit or corn immediately before, and also bathe before reading any valuable philosophy.

>>11128755
When I smoke I can't read philosophy, I can't compreehend the text. So I just become retarded and watch some anime. Can read fiction tho...

>>11128765
This. Fuck potheads.

>>11128767
>and you should also fast for a few days and then eat fruit or corn immediately before, and also bathe before reading any valuable philosophy.
based

>>11128755
Disgusting. What is that shit?

Is way better sober. But when high you can get lost in words while everything feels like it is the deepest shit ever.

>>11128755
Read and then smoke, not the other way around.

>>11128755
Disgusting. What is that? Shit?

I can only read philosophy when high on weed. If I'm sober my brain just doesnt do the association between the abstract, articulated conceps and the "real" world. When sober philosophy just doesnt do anything to me.

>>11128795
>If I'm sober my brain just doesnt do the association between the abstract, articulated conceps and the "real" world.

>>11128795
So what is your interest in philosophy? Like which authors do you prefer? Just curious

OP here I literally smoke a bong read two pages of the Phenomenology and just break down for like a week thinking about it and rereading shit over and over I've been reading it for 6 months and I just got the first section.

>>11128795
This is a habit that you mistakenly consider a disposition. Get sober and then you'll find that not only do you enjoy reading philosophy when sober but you can retain and cognize at far greater levels than previously thought. There will be a period of time before this takes effect, and it might be aggravating, so you will have to focus and work through it.

I only smoke while listening to music, can't imagine why anyone would use it while reading

>>11128755
>he isn't schizophrenic
>he can't do both at the same time
truly the plebbiest board

>>11128816
I'm literally majoring in philosophy, 3 years in, and getting high everytime before reading is the only method that allows me to be functional and keeps my goals straight in line, I do very well in every test, project, whatever.

>>11128813
I'm currently interested in the greeks and phenomenology.

>>11128831
>I'm literally majoring in philosophy, 3 years in
Then why haven't you been training yourself double time into handling philosophy when sober? You of all people should be doing this. Play the dudebrah wunderkind all you want but we both know that this is priming you for a crash at some point. You should take some time to really mull this situation over with yourself.

>>11128845
I have tried to quit or smoking less but it doesnt work. I hang out with friends and workout when sober, I study and do school-work when high. And when I say high I mean really high, I smoke up every half hour, have a snack and a glass of water, or milk, or a soda (never alcohol) and then back to philosophy.

>>11128871
The furthest ability to cognize abstruse thought will always come when sober. This isn't even up for debate. You have a talent for reading when blasted, and it seems to have been working well for you in the interim, but you could excel even further when sober. You just haven't properly trained yourself to get there yet.

>>11128871
>>11128871
Try drinking a glass of wine or a shot of whisky instead of smoking, might help you to quit

>>11128893
>>11128845
Please listen to this man, OP. Former pothead who smoked every fucking day for years on end myself -- there is a sober man inside of you that's been growing in the background this entire time, and you don't even realize it. The world will look so much fucking brighter when you take weeks to sober up, it's not even funny.

Yes, I'm aware of pot's medical benefits, but it is by no means a permanent cognitive enhancer. Try it out, OP. Take a month break, eat well and tell me you don't feel great.

>>11128813
Jordan Peterson and stoicism

>>11128941
>JB
>Philosophy

The absolute state of this board.

>>11128765
>>11128775
Smoking pot and being a fucking pothead are different. I like it to mellow out my late nights and end of week

>>11128831
You can get your masters in philosophy from a middling university being brain dead if you wanted, the same goes for being on drugs, it doesn't mean you're actually applying yourself or will ever accomplish anything in the field.

>>11128767
Nice trips

>>11128755
Only if stimulants are involved

>>11128795
Im so fucking glad I wasnt born a retarded fucking pothead lmao

>>11128941
This explains everything.

>>11129014
You're a pothead because you advertise your habit and consider it part of your "culture".

>>11128930
I can't sleep without weed

>>11128822
>be schizo
>smoke weed and try to read phil
>can't because too many niggers walking around disturbing me.
>Can't keep my concentration off not allowing the cars passing by to download my thoughts.
I could only do this in a forest.

>>11129996
so close rip

>>11128822
chkd btw

>>11129996
>>11130001
clearly something I said was not pleasing to Kek. It was probably the car stuff. I don't think they're downloading my thoughts. I do think that they're not tenants driving by but actually people someone paid to "keep an eye on" me.

>>11129996
>>11130001
>>11130006
only numerals will set me free

>>11130011
Praise Kek

>>11128755
to be chemically altered upon taking in information is to have altered information upon recollection.

>The conditions of knowability must eventually result in the reflexive knowledge of these conditions themselves. The exposition of this knowledge is the Hegelian system. Understood this way: truth is nothing but the process in which truth arrives at itself. Being has its intelligibility only in the other which it reflexively appropriates, /as/ this other's appropriation to itself. Do you get it? Hegel is describing the method by which the chaos of sense experience auto-organizes, and the organization is nothing but the movement that it is itself. Spirit is the sense that senses only the sense that it is, since reality is a universality that subsists only in/as its particularization

I wrote this after smoking a blunt to the head while reading Hegel

>>11128898
Don't do this.
I still smoke a lot and have alcoholism problems too.
I agree with the anon who said read first then smoke though.
Power through a text, finish it, then smoke and think about it, or try to re-write the arguments and you'll make incredible associations.

>>11128755
>Is smoking and reading philosophy better than/equal to reading philosophy sober?
You're consuming bullshit either way, so no biggie.

a cigarette and a coffee with a good book is the best. I quit smoking though. It's a shame cigarettes are so bad for you, since they're such a simple pleasure.

>>11128755
I enjoy it sometimes, it just gives a different experience. Since they're different, I wouldn't say one is superior to the other.

It's been proven that long-term heavy use of weed in adolescence, but not adulthood, will result in a drop of about ~5 IQ points. Whether this is from the actual chemical effects of the plant, or the lifestyle that comes along with heavy use is not certain. It has also been proven that weed use enhances divergent thinking. I know from personal experience that while high, I make far faster and longer (meaning farther away in relation) associations than I do when sober. For example, while high, I might instantly and vividly recall an obscure childhood memory in relation to something I'm reading or thinking about. I also might recall a situation or piece of information that I had forgotten in a similar way. Reading philosophy while sober and high both have their merits and shortcomings in comparison to each other. One can't be "better" than the other imo.

>>11128898
Alcohol disgusts me and kills my concentration

>>11129083
You can still be retarded without being a pothead you know

>>11128755
what book is this?

>>11130662
Phenomenology of the spirit

>>11130969
Pleb get out
>>11130662
Less than Nothing

>>11128755
Like Fortnite or Rick & Morty, marijuana has been ruined by its following. Stoners are the worst types of individuals – lazy, gluttonous, greedy, woefully hedonistic, physically unaesthetic, fans of 311 or Sublime or Dave Matthews, etc. If you are one of these people, you ruined a great drug for most people.

>>11128777
Truly
Sounds like I nice ritual.
Will try

>>11131149
I loved smoking blunts to Less Than Nothing, how you liking it? There's a truth bomb on every page

>>11128783
Yeah true.
I've read some passages of Crime and Punishment stoned and it felt like to most intense shit.
When Raskolnikow went into one his fever delusions again I felt like the spirit Dostoyevski projected into the pages intruded my mind.

>>11129973
Go to bio energetic bodytherapy and fix your chronic anxiety without the need to selfmedicate.

>>11131180
reading heraclitus high had me scared all night bros

The Phenomenal vista is already a hallucination.

>tfw reading this high

>>11128755
Why did you take a shit and try to use it as a bookmark?

>>11131210
Forgot quote:

>Actuality does not have its ground in a possibility that would be beyond it. It is itself its own possibility. Certainly being is grounded, but it is grounded upon itself; it is because it is possible, but it is possible because it is. This transcendental chance, which Kant spoke of in The Critique of Judgment and which was the encounter of contingency and conditional necessity, is for Hegel absolute necessity, because actuality refers to nothing else, and yet it is grounded, it is conceived. The Logos is not the possibility of the existent, outside of the existent; it is the conception of the existent, and the existent as other is included in its own conception. The possible, which is only possible, is impossible; it contradicts itself. This is why it is possible because it is, just as it is because it is possible.

>>11130312
nice

>>11131176
Can be hard keeping up with the encyclopedia references but it's been a lot of fun. It's much more systematic than his lectures which is a nice change.

>>11131286
Encyclopedic* fuck autocorrect

>>11131286
My man wait til you hit the quantum mechanics chapter. You're gonna get looped

>>11129872
Damn, you must be pretty flexible with all the stretching you do.