/lit/ - Literature

>>11127192
nigger I love reading about the sun is soo /comfwee/

Pynchon isn't like that

>>11127192
Your point is confusing. How does suburbia evoke "a highschool english class, a college, or an art class"?

Everyone aestheticizes their time, or else no one would

>>11127541
>"a highschool english class, a college, or an art class"?
yellow = yellow crayon hair and crayon sun and collages

I'm a brainlet in terms of knowledge of PM but my guess would be because of the somewhat ironic contradiction between, say, a sunny summer day (supposed to be the ideal moment) and the empty feeling one might feel in this supposedly wonderful setting ?

>>11127192
>infinite jest
>post-modern
anyway it's because it's been played out so many time it makes my head hurt. From books to art to TV to even ads it's all the same shit of being ironic and self deprecating

>>11127192
I don't see what your confusion is--It seems like you should be phrasing this as an argument, not a question. Landscape connotes mindscape--both vast and dry.

Vast in terms of >>11127636's "emptiness," dry in terms of humor.

>>11127192

Have you read the poem "High Windows" by Philip Larkin? Might want to take a look at that. He's trying to express a similar feeling to yours, I think.

Found the poem to which this anon >>11127928 refers
>https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48417/high-windows

>>11127555
But you're saying that that's "the only feeling postmodernists can evoke," right after saying that it evokes the gentrified neighborhood and the tree. There's a contradiction unless you're implying that those neighborhoods don't evoke any feelings whatsoever.

that's just on you, mate.

>>11128364
Not op, but suburban neighbourhoods seem detached from reality, and that kind of enviroment provokes a feeling of misunderstanding or neglection towards your emotions, just like how depressive people feel when trying to explain their suffering to others

>>11127192
>postmodern art [...] An example would be pic related
I don't know why people call "Infinite Jest" postmodern. It's not postmodern. It actually lacks pretty much every attribute of literary postmodernism.

>>11128396
How are suburban neighborhoods detached from reality? I mean, all you have to do is say suburban neighborhood (hell, all you have to say is suburb) and most everyone has a similar image pop into their head. And, if the image of the suburb has become such a ubiquitous part of a sort of collective unconscious, how could it possibly be detached from reality? Like, why is a safe neighborhood where so many people have a relative experience and want to be a part of this experience (at least, if you have a family and want the best for them, as in, the best blend of safety, education, and comfort you can provide) the thing that's detached from reality rather than the alternative of some sort of hellish ghetto? How is the hellish ghetto more "attached" to reality than the suburb? Just because the hellish ghetto exists doesn't make the suburban neighborhood detached from or any less reality. Good happens in the hellish ghetto just as bad happens in the suburban neighborhood. And wanting the safety and security, the relative level of education and intelligence, and a base level of creature comfort in your daily life is the furthest thing from "bad" I can possibly imagine. So how am I detached from reality? Of course there's another part of reality. A part I'd prefer not to be a part of, or be a part of as little as possible. Yet my reality is still reality.

>>11127192
I know exactly what you mean. But I don't think it encompasses all postmodernists, only DFW.

>>11127192
>Why does postmodern art so often seem to be "sunbleached" for lack of a better word? An example would be pic related
stop bullying DFW about his failure to start that new antipostmodern movement he always talked about, he's already anhero'd, you're too late