/lit/ - Literature

>>11100280
I planned on reading War and Peace.

That is a top tier stack you have right there. But why did you buy Iliad and Odyssey in Swedish and the rest in English?

>>11100280
Very nice stack, anon. Expect a good time. Here's my summer reading pile, I'm currently reading The Disaster Artist, cheers.

>>11100280
is this pewdiepies new stack

>>11100280
Add Brave New World Revisited to you reading list.

>>11100280
3+ memes
good for you with odyssey and iliad
reading the brothers now and loving it but I can't speak for the english translation

>>11100289
Since they weren’t originally written in English, I took the opportunity to add some variety.

>>11100295
shit bust

>>11100345
Will do, thanks for the recommendation anon.

>>11100295
>film major
>Infinite Jest
more like Absolute Meme lmao

which is what you are

jk

What astounds me about Philip K Dick is not only the flow of his prose, but the depth behind it.

Does anyone else feel that outside of the world of literature his achievements are relatively unknown?

I've met numerous fans of science fiction films and books that are unaware of him. However, I am aware that this is purely anecdotal.

>>11100280
I haven't read any other translations so I can't compare, but Lagerlöf's was a joy to read.

>>11100345
That book is so fucking underrated.
Thank you for letting me know I'm not the only one left.

Have you read Fahrenheit 451?
Would also recommend The Stranger by Albert Camus

>>11100280
Libra and Underworld by Don Delillo

>>11100280

Not really, school has me pretty burned out on reading. I might get around to a collection of Vollmann stories, or maybe a couple O'Neill plays. Nothing big, though.

>not just reading whatever you feel like at the time

>>11100280
Basic bitch tier

>>11100280
The Recognitions, which will probably take up most of the summer. Also the Divine Comedy

>guermantes way
>sodom and gomorrah
>decameron
>austerlitz
>savage detectives
>plato's later dialogues
>suttree
>rainbow stories
>the box man
>prolegomena to any future metaphysics
>candide

Reading list this summer:

>The First Philosophers
>Epicurus Reader
>The Difference Between Democritean and Epicurean Philosophy of Nature
>The Philosophy of Hegel
>From Hegel to Marx
>Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts
>The Origin of the Family
>Grundrisse
>The Civil War in France
>The German Ideology
>State and Revolution
>The Essential Rosa Luxemburg
>Marxism amd Philosophy
>History and Class Consciousness
>Othello
>King Leary
>Hamlet
>Thus Spoke Zarathustra

>>11102996
I hope you enjoy it anon

Plan to read a lot this summer
>The Stranger
>Iliad
>Odyssey
>Republic
>The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea
>Pale Fire
>Augustus
>Butcher's Crossing
>Republic
>Every Man Dies Alone
>A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man

ITT : plebs who buy books and never read them

>>11100280
My list for this summer

>The Four Pillars of Spiritual Transformation: The Adornment of the Spiritually Transformed
>The Inner Citadel
>To The Lighthouse
>The Oresteia
>The Art of Rhetoric
>A Farewell to Arms
>Monkey: The Journey to The West
>The Picture of Dorian Gray

>Either/Or
>Excerpts from Wealth of Nations
>On the Jews and Their Lies

Winter for me. Plan on writing more than reading. I don't have stack in particular or anything solid at the moment. Probably the illiad because that's where a lot of inspiration is coming from. I hope to tie more themes of the land and mateship into the story though (Aussie themes).
>>11100289
I'm about 2/3rd's of the way through, Denisov was the only character I didn't really like, well, I did like him but his character flaw really drags out. It can be really funny at time though. Keep an eye on the name when reading.
>>11100280
You have a decent stack OP, don't listen to the fag saying it's basic. However, I wouldn't expect much from 1984, Brave new world, or Androids when compared to the other authors you are showing off.
I really disliked 'Do androids dream of electric sheep' though.
>>11100295
Interesting stack.
>>11102470
Patrician
>>11102996
Even more Interesting stack. Esp, since you're going for the political books straight from those sources. It's always the best when you do so.
>>11103713
Starting with the Greeks?
>>11104382
Another Patrician, Four pillars is really good. Art of rhetoric by Aristotle is a lot different than what you would think though. It's more about speech in the context of the culture and time it was produced in.
>>11104387
Hey brother, huwhite power! Day of the rope--any day now, it will happen! Any day now brother, any day now! Yes, Day of the rope is coming. Any day, soon, yes, soon -- it's coming!

>>11101267
How is it underrated? I think most of us have read it before leaving highschool.

>>11104526
I think you missed the revisited part.

>>11104515
>Hey brother, huwhite power! Day of the rope--any day now, it will happen! Any day now brother, any day now! Yes, Day of the rope is coming. Any day, soon, yes, soon -- it's coming!

And people like this call /pol/ reddit...

Some basic bitch stuff but eh what can you do
> Mythology
> Odyssey
> Beowulf
> The Leopard
> The Orthodox Church: An Introduction to Eastern Christianity
> Ego is the Enemy
> iOS 11 Programming Fundamentals with Swift: Swift, Xcode, and Cocoa Basics

>>11104740
>Everyone I don't like is reddit

>>11102470
Just finished Savage detectives, its really fucking good, hope you enjoy it.
Planning on reading In search of lost time, hopefully i won't get too burned out

>>11100280
I want to finally start with the Greeks.

>>11100280
The Iliad and the Odyssey are great summer reads.

Extremely entry level shit, but we all gotta start somewhere.

>Iliad
>Odyssey
>Moby Dick
>Pride and Prejudice
>Sun Also Rises
>The Metamorphosis
>Stoner
>The Stranger
>Notes from the Underground
>The Death of Ivan Ilych
>Some Shakespeare, not sure which plays I'm going to be starting with yet

>>11104841
For Shakespeare, read the core plays: Macbeth, Julius Caesar, Othello, and Hamlet (and R+J, but pretty much everyone has read it in HS).

>>11104890
That sounds like a plan. I'm not from a English speaking country so we don't read any Shakespeare in the schools over here.

>>11100280
Very nice, I also want to read Ulysses in this summer. I was thinking about getting the everyman's library edition, would you recommend it?

>>11104890
+Midsummer, Lear, Tempest.

>War And Peace
>The Brothers Karamazov
>The Idiot
>The Count Of Monte Cristo
>Wuthering Heights

My goal this summer is Wuthering Heights, The Brothers K, Infinite Jest, and Watership Down

>>11105010
I’ve read the first three this month. All masterpieces. Especially War and Peace

>>11105053
this year I meant

>The Portable Chekov
>The Sea of Fertility Tetralogy Mishima
>The Master of Go Kawabata
>Leaves of Grass Whitman
>Meditations Aurelius
>The Education of the Stoic Pessoa
>The World as Will Schoopy
>Some stuff from Kafka
>Beckett Plays
>The Power of Myth Campbell
>BGE/GM Neetchuh
>The Story of Philosophy: The Lives and Opinions of the World's Greatest Philosophers
>Some Shakespeare play
fun summer c:

>>11100280
>Nicomachean Ethics
>Politics (Aristotle)
>Metaphysics (Aristotle)
>some of Plato's dialogues
>Faust
>Walden
>Introduction to the Study of Hindu Doctrines by Guenon
>The Crisis of the Modern World by Guenon

>>11106303
>Walden
Shit I've been telling myself for the past 4 summers that I'd get around to it, I really should this time.

>>11100280
Varför valde du att läsa Iliaden och Odysséen på Svenska men resterande på Engelska?

>>11106802
Läs tråden innan du frågar shit

>>11100280
Någon anledning att du valde Lagerlöfs översättning? Har Björkesons hemma men vet inte vilken som är att föredra.

>>11107432
Nej.

>>11100280
People should all really just post stacks.

My summer reading.

Svenskere sutter fed pik.

>>11106802
Språk skrivs inte med stor bokstav hjärnkulting.

Whats the point of reading books? Bragging?

>>11109527
pretty much

>>11109458
I rate
>>11109527
I want to call my dog Fucking so when someone asks If I'm Fucking my dog I can say no I'm fucking my sister

>>11109547
I rate?

>>11109527
high verbal iq need books or go insane, alternatively writing script, being consultant entertainment sociopath, lawyer parasite or writing novels/essays will suffice. but if they don’t their souls weep, gnash teeth, become black holes, much like STEM spergs not allowed to do some insectoid displacement activity

>>11109555
>high verbal iq need books
source?

>>11100787
This but not jking

>>11103653
I hope he kills himself.

>>11109552
Means it's worth enough to give it a good rating. If it wasn't good, then it would not be rated and have gone unnoticed.
>>11109555
Verbal iq is a meme.

>>11109570
But it wasn't rated.

>>11104796
The Leopard is great, good pick

>Ada or Ardor
>Huck Finn
>Clark Ashton Smith and Arthur Machen
>History of religious ideas by Eliade
>Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition
>Play-doh
>Hamlet Othello Macbeth King Lear
>Book of the New Sun

>>11109574
That's the point, it's like hot or not.

>>11109585
what are you fucking, paris hilton, or something?

>>11105003
>>11104841
>>11104890
definitely +Lear, just read it, top tier

>>11109570
no its not
>>11109559
me

>>11109583
If you like Huck Finn, you might try The Yearling. It's more like Where the Red Fern Grows, and I've never read Huck Finn, but it fits the Americana vibe, and it's a great book.

Des REpublica
Federalists and Anti-Federalists
American Federal Government, a general view
Decameron?
Cantos of Ezra Pound?
The Quest for the Holy Grail
Fathers and Sons
The Scarlet Letter

Why are people just casually reading philosophical tracts and great works not in the context of a class or at least with critical essays to go along with them? You're doing yourself a disservice if you just sit on a lounge chair reading these without at least some discussion or analysis.

>>11109594
No, just Australian.

>>11109640
what's with all these assumptions?

>>11109640
I just talk to myself and write about it in my free time.

>>11109640
t. professor
>pay for my class, goy!

>>11109640
You can discuss things you're reading HERE, you absolute pseud

>>11109640
>He literally has to pay hundreds of dollars to understand a book

>>11109671
people here are mean

>>11109640
bugs... easy on the assumptions

Attali, Bensaid, Debord, Baudrillard, Zizek and... Guenon

>>11109640
smart people can understand and research things on their own

>>11109491
Jo.

Going to see how much of these I can read over the coming months. Been trying to read a Montaigne essay daily, it’s a lovely part of my routine.

>>11100280
Du kan slänga foucault direkt och sen byta ut Iliaden och Odysseen mot engelska upplagor. Det finns ingen svensk tradition att översätta gammal grekiska eller latin därför kommer du få lästa översättningarn av översättningar.

>>11100301
I was about to say...

>>11110465
>freud

I'm hoping to finish these by August.

>>11110465
Have you read V.?

>>11110562
The two middle ones are great.

>>11110567
I'm hoping they all are.

>>11110569
I didn't like Infinite Jest much. Maybe not my bag of tea, but for me it was the weakest of the meme trilogy by far.

You might enjoy it though and I wish you the best.

>>11110469
Om du antyder att Lagerlöfs eller Björkesons översättningar inte är från klassisk grekiska så har du fel.

>>11110465
10/10 list you got there anon. The Essays are fantastic. I've been dipping in and out of them sporadically for a couple of years, and i think I've probably read them all at this point.

>mao II
>moby dick
>aenid
>dead souls
>kafka short stories
>divine comedy

some more prolly

>>11110617
Mao II starts quite slow buts gets real interesting in the latter half.

>wasting your summer reading
Do /lit/tle virgins actually do this?

Top teir save the Foucault

>>11110622

aight thanks, i dont mind slowness much besides its a p short booka

The entire Penguin library on Freud
Some fashion/style books
Some art books

>>11110566
nope, this’ll be my first Pynchon apart from Inherent Vice, which was occasionally funny but didn’t leave a strong impression on me.

dem wanna look smart and talkin bout difficult tings. like philosopy or literature or else. but it aint supreme knowledge but bomboclaat dem joyce or ecco. we built piramids in past but now we dem built a bludclaart business centres and buyn cars. man a babylon. mad ting. bun dem.

>>11110766
>tfw no well read Jamaican bro to shoot the shit with

>>11110743
You really should read V. first. Gravity's Rainbow features characters that are first introduced in V. While not vital, I would say it adds to the experience a bit.

>>11110802
I didn’t realise. Still leaning on the side of reading GR first, because I’d rather read 800+ pages of something on my shelf than 600+ pages of something that isn’t, but I’ll certainly go back to V if I find Gravity’s Rainbow worthwhile. Despite the /lit/ reputation I’m unsure if I’ll like it; I certainly have little patience for David Foster Wallace’s puppyish overwrought sense of style.

>>11100280
>Ulysses
>Great Expectations
>The Brothers Karamazov
>The Republic
>Nicomachean Ethics (rereading it)
>Either/Or
>Antifragile by Nassim Taleb
>The War of Art by Steven Pressfield
>Art of Fiction by John Gardner

I'm halfway through Ulysses and using a lot of secondary lit and analyses after reading each episode. I'll do the same for TBK. The novel I'm trying to write is similar to Great Expectations so I'm reading that for aspirational purposes.

>>11110766

>man a babylon

Lost my shit. good show.

>>11110954
Alright, you've heard my advice as someone who's read both. Do what you want.

>>11110469
>släng Foucault direkt

Varför? Antyder du att jag håller med honom bara för att jag läser hans verk?

>>11100538
but The Brothers Karamazov wasn't written in English, so why did you buy that in English?

>>11111755
cannae read Cyrillic m8

>>11100295
White Noise was really great in my opinion.

>>11100280
>Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
>The Picture of Dorian Gray
>The Scarlet Letter (I never had to read it in HS, so I figured I should)
>Siddhartha (re-read)
>Anna Karenina (re-read)
>The War of Art
>Wuthering Heights
>Carmilla
>Jane Eyre
>Don Quixote

In no particular order. Probably some poetry and light reading in between, as well.

Samesies OP.

>>11100280
Currently Reading:
>Paradise Lost
>The Trial
>Ulysses
Over the Summer I'm planning to read:
>Don Quixote
>The Waste Land
>The Old Man and the Sea
>Candide
>Lolita
>The Master and Margarita

My reading list is just The Bible and a bunch of hermetic sacred texts

>>11104928
If that is the case, then you absolutely need to buy a copy with the original on one page and modern english on the other.

>>11110584
>Ted Dekker
I think I read his entire oeuvre in high school, that shit is so comfy. My favorite was the one where the guy could see multiple timelines, but I really liked the circle books as well.

>The Illiad
>The Sailor who fell from Grace with the Sea
>Billy Budd and other stories
I may save the next two for fall
>Red and the Black
>Madame Bovary

>>11100295
>Seinfeld and Philosophy
Fuckin kek, I would definitely read this.

>>11111755
I bought all of these books on a shopping trip to Stockholm. None of the book stores I went to had a copy in swedish.

>>11102996
Holy hell, my guy. Take ONE of those books and go deep with it. You won't get anything out of those by skimming, which you'll have to do to get through all of them

>>11104841
If you've never read Shakespeare start with RJ or Macbeth. Short, gripping, referenced literally constantly in literally everything.

>Brothers Karamazov
>Dostoevsky's selected short works
>Crime and Punishment
>Demons
>A Sportsman's Sketches
>Fathers and Sons
>Anna Karenina
>War and Peace
>Resurrection
>Life and Fate
>Voices from Chernobyl
>The Portable Chekhov
>Dead Souls
>Gogol's Collected Tales
>The New Testament
and some Spinoza for shits and giggles

>in short Russia + Spinoza

>>11114062
You are gonna read all that shit in one summer?

puh leez

>>11114062
Read Shestov, Merezhkovsky and Rozanov after that stuff. Dem real bomboclat don dadas.

>>11114649
based jamaican poster

>>11106779
It is really good Anon
A friend recommended me even though I knew and wanted to read the book, the book is fantastic

>>11100280
Instead of reading millenia-old stories, maybe you should save your sister from being raped by immigrants sven?

>>11100280
>>11112637
My nigs

>>11115368
Lay Miserab er alt for lang og Hugo kan sutte en fed

>>11115352

>>11115352
is this the alt right version of slay the dragon and clean up your room

>>11100280
That's a big stack

>>11115374
Have you recovered from your stroke yet?

>>11115948
No, because it's not even happening on the scale they would like you to believe.

>>11118608
>2 shekels have been transferred to your account

>>11118612
How does it feel that your fellow white men are more rapey then the savages you import?

Not OP but what should I read before I start the Iliad? Will the introduction of my edition do?

>>11118616
Iliad is pretty good for starting with by itself.

>>11104526
>>11104564
Welcome to reading.

>>11118614
Do you have a source for that statement?

>>11100280
>1984 and brave new world
stop reading those meme books and read the glass bees, helipolis and eumeswil instead

>>11106303
someone jack off too much

>>11118816
Do you have a source for yours?

>>11100280

>>11118603
>Les Miserables is way too long and (Victor) Hugo can suck a fat one
...is what he said, but in Danish.

>>11118963
Which statement would that be? That "it" is happening on the scale that "we" would like you to believe?

Lotta meme books in this thread. Does everyone really just put them off for later or is /lit/ experiencing a heap of new posters right now?

>>11100280
Lagerlöf translation is based

>>11109460
Men din mamma då?

>>11112490
mediocre book, pleb opionin

how to into self study of philosophy. is it worth it to begin with the pre-socratics? what are the key works of the western canon?

>>11120478
start with plato (the last days of socrates)

move onto

>aristotle - nichomachean ethics
>descartes - meditations on first philosophy
>hume - essay concerning human understanding

at this point you need supplementary materials
>kant - critique of pure reason
>hegel - phenomenology of spirit
>marx - capital

after these you can go wherever you want. the last 2 are particularly important for any philosophy written in the last century.
pay extra for good editions (cambridge or hackett),
get supplementary material for kant, hegel and marx

>>11120121
Jag började nyss läsa Björkesons, värt att byta? Lagerlöfs kostar 50 spänn på

>>11120623
*på adlibris atm

>>11100834
he's too literary for the sci-fi community, too much of a drug addled nut for the literary community. His flight of ideas and his vague explanations to the sci-fi tech turn people off. I have had a hard time in the past grasping the sci fi concepts in his books, especially Ubik, as they come up in the book/narrative because in conventional sci-fi, the author explains the future elements in detail. Dick just glazes over it and figures the human element out, like a mind in the vein of contemporary American literature. He's a little like Kurt Vonnegut in that respect, but definitely harder to follow.

>>11120522
Should I read any pre-socratics? What about the Republic? Would it be better to move onto Kant after Hume or go back and read more classics/fill in some of the blanks?

>>11100280
>Swedenbot
>Focault in English
kys

>>11119972
point still stands.

>>11110802
uhhh ackshually they're introduced in his short stories that are anthologized in Slow Learner

currently working through Team of Rivals, hope to knock out a few of these this summer

>>11120623
Nä, man kan ju alltid läsa om senare.

>>11121016
Have you read The Savage Detectives? 2666 is the sequel.

>>11121921
i have not, they're only somewhat connected though correct?

>>11100280
Only decent author on that list is Dostoevsky, the rest is unironically trash that you should never read unless it's assigned in school.

>>11103745
What about people who read books but never buy them? I think I've bought one book in my life, but I've read more than one.

>>11110775
Go on his facebook and watch his racism

>>11120890
Pre-socratics would be nice for Plato, you're right that the Republic is essential, and on that note you could add Categories for Aristotle. It would be nice to fill in some gaps between Descartes and Kant, like Leibniz and Spinoza. And I would argue before tackling Marx getting a bit more political phil in like Hobbes and Rousseau would be nice. I woud

>>11122335
*I would argue that you should have an in with contemporary philosophy. The above is really just history of philosophy. For contemporary you would only need to start with James' pragmatism, a few papers by Russell on denotation and logical atomism, get in deep with Wittgenstein, and then that opens lot of paths in the 20th century be it philosophy of mind or philosophy of language.

>>11120084
Seems to just be the first.

>>11122023
yeah but still

bump

So far I think I'm going to read:
>Seven Pillars of Wisdom
>All Quiet on the Western Front
>Dragons of Eden: Speculations on the Evolution of Human Intelligence
>Astrophysics for People in a Hurry
In no particular order with some manga and ln's mixed in just because I bought a bunch months ago and still haven't finished all of them.

Also, if anyone has any poetry recommendations for someone that never really got into poetry while in school, please recommend them (I'm gonna try to find some poetry that I actually like)

>>11125926
I'm also currently reading a book of paganism and might try to find a book on islam

>>11125936
I just hope you know you're going to hell

>>11120478
Here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/mobilebasic?pli=1

Plan on alternating between this and some short nonfiction.

I also have a copy of the annotated Lolita, but since I've never read it before I thought it would be better to read it without the annotations first.

>>11100280
I read half that shit when i was 16 in Greece.

The Odyssey, 1984 and Do Androids Dream are masterpieces, the former and latter and their exploration of humanity compliment each other nicely.

>>11115948
Kekd

>>11100280
You're not going to read all that during the summer lmao
You won't even get through Ulysses in the summer
Do you not read at all? Are you one of those idiots who has summer reading lists because they can't find time to read the rest of the year?
Yes, you are.

>>11105003
Why Midsummer?
As You Like It is his best comedy by far

A bunch of sociological and linguistic non fiction, kind of wide survey of authors books and so on. I also have a history of Trotsky's later years and communism in China to read. As for fiction I might read Ayn Rand's The fountainhead because it's been on my shelf unread forever. Probably some more fiction on audiobook, some of Orwell's other books perhaps.

>>11127416
List the nonfiction reads?

The Philosophy of Language by Scott Soames
To Our Friends
How to Do Things With Words
Philosophical Investigations
Discipline and Punish
Discourse on Livy
Crash
Grant's Memoirs
The Power elite
Growing Up Absurd
Snow Country
What is Cinema?

I think I'll actually be able to do it too.