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>Anon, you're so late! We were just talking about Sebastian's promotion at Morgan Stanley, but we were about to start the discussion of how enlightenment values can prevail in this post-truth era where exerts are ignored. Trump and Brexit are the main symptoms, of course. What are your opinions?

>> No.11104861

Solomon Pereira x Margaret From Nazareth x Abu Kamaal

>> No.11104866

Go to gulqg

>> No.11104875
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>>11104851
>enlightenment values

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>post-truth

>> No.11104889

>>11104851
>turn around
>go back to my apartment
>never go back to work
>become a construction worker

>> No.11104905

I agree that what London needs is more Black people and Pakistanis. The erasure of Whites from the East End that has already been accomplished must be repeated in every London suburb.

>> No.11104917

>>11104851
On the occasion of Marx's 200th anniversary, I'd like to tell you, go fuck yourself! You burgosie scums deserve nothing more than a cruel death.

>> No.11104938

>>11104851
My friend actually works at Morgan Stanley though, and apparently it's a shitty company that treats it's entry level employees like shit and pays them like ~30k to work themselves to death. They only start making bank after like 10 years. I'd probably ask them why Sebastian chose such a shitty career.

>> No.11104949

>>11104938
>30k at Morgan Stanley
what does your friends do? is he a security guard of something?

>> No.11104954

>>11104938
Sebs dad got him a nice position no problem

>> No.11104957

>>11104949
that's what they pay interns without STEM degrees. He's in securities or something, I don't know shit about finance so I'm not sure.

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>>11104851
Well, we have to end apartheid for one. And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger. Ensure a strong national defense, prevent the spread of communism in Central America, work for a Middle East peace settlement, prevent U.S. military involvement overseas. We have to ensure that America is a respected world power. Now that's not to belittle our domestic problems, which are equally important, if not more. Better and more affordable long-term care for the elderly, control and find a cure for the AIDS epidemic, clean up environmental damage from toxic waste and pollution, improve the quality of primary and secondary education, strengthen laws to crack down on crime and illegal drugs. We also have to ensure that college education is affordable for the middle class and protect Social Security for senior citizens plus conserve natural resources and wilderness areas and reduce the influence of political action committees.

But economically we're still a mess. We have to find a way to hold down the inflation rate and reduce the deficit. We also need to provide training and jobs for the unemployed as well as protect existing American jobs from unfair foreign imports. We have to make America the leader in new technology. At the same time we need to promote economic growth and business expansion and hold the line against federal income taxes and hold down interest rates while promoting opportunities for small businesses and controlling mergers and big corporate takeovers.

But we can't ignore our social needs either. We have to stop people from abusing the welfare system. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights while also promoting equal rights for women but change the abortion laws to protect the right to life yet still somehow maintain women's freedom of choice. We also have to control the influx of illegal immigrants. We have to encourage a return to traditional moral values and curb graphic sex and violence on TV, in movies, in popular music, everywhere. Most importantly we have to promote general social concern and less materialism in young people.

>> No.11104967

>rich people talking like that
I would think that fabulously wealthy people are even less interested in philosophy than regular people

>> No.11104972

I would sincerely scoff, then raise my feet and place them on the table and take a deep breath. I would then pull out a cigarette, do a shot of liquor, then I would pull out Henry Kissinger's New World Order from my jacket. Finally, I would then say "We have a lot of work to do, and catch you all up on geopolitics, and why morality doesn't mean anything at this level."

>> No.11104975

>>11104851
I unironically think my career as a scientist makes me superior to materially rich bourgeoisie. I would make sure to heavily imply that they are all trash for not having a PhD.

>> No.11104979

>>11104964
I’m reminded of this whenever a white person talks about their support for diversity or whichever pet cause is hot at the moment

>> No.11104983
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>>11104964
>right to life

>> No.11104985

>>11104964
I would laugh at anyone who says something like this. You're trying a little to hard and don't know the complexities of it all do you?

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>>11104983
>>11104985

>> No.11105016

>>11104851
>Supposedly intelligent people
>"Post truth Era" meme
>Thinking that Trump and Brexit are related on any way

DISCARDED

>> No.11105027

the thing is this is actually how dumb upper class people are. they actually talk like this.

>> No.11105028

>>11104985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBBrd3pQblg

>> No.11105042

>>11104851
Have you heard of this guy called Mencius Moldbug? he had some pretty interesting ideas, y'know.

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>>11105016
>trump and brexit aren't related

>> No.11105061

The Enlightenment lacked any coherent system of values, and contained within itself the seed of post-truth epistemology and politics. Next topic pls.

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>>11105052
>trump and brexit are related
Oh do go on about how British Euroskepticism and American Nationalism are deeply related

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>>11105016
>tfw Murdoch and the shady finance elite behind Brexit didn't think things through and accidentally handed the island on a silver platter to a neotrotskite/neobennite cabal of corbynist antisemites

>> No.11105071

>>11105062
I'm in support of both for the exact same reason.

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>>11104964
>not realising that by trying to control the world through more bureaucratic offices and policies, you are only furthering its confusion and disorder.

>> No.11105081

>>11104975
>I unironically think my career as a scientist makes me superior to materially rich bourgeoisie
as it should

>> No.11105083

>>11105070
>tfw Murdoch and the shady finance elite behind Brexit
>Implying there was no shady elite behind Remain either
Yikes, I see you're new to British politics.

>> No.11105085 [DELETED] 

>>11105071
No. Many left wing people voted for brexit(for completely different reason than right wing did)

>> No.11105091

>>11105042
you just know the centrist neoliberal elites are about to go NrX in the near future. Steven Pinker is already redpilling them on HBD and all those nu-enlightenment wankers like Harris, Peterson, Rubin have major Koch/Gates Foundation/ Peter Thiel cash behind them.

>> No.11105094

>>11105071
British Euroskepticism goes beyond the right/left dichotomy btw

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>>11105062
they're part of the same worldwive skepticism towards liberal elites that has manifested everywhere in the western world

>> No.11105112

>>11105083
what made you think I was implying that? all the shady elites fucked up big time, and that includes the Soros globalist NGO memeplex. The Trotskyists and the rabble have no interest in 'saving the EU', and the Remainers are even more delusional than American bougie libs.

>> No.11105121

>>11105102
So what your saying is
Trump supporters == brexit voters (30-40% of which are radical leftists)

>> No.11105134

>>11105121
many trump supporters come from traditionally democrat demographics (blue collar workers) so yes the analogy is apt.

>> No.11105137

>>11104938
One of the dumbest guys I know works at Morgan Stanley. It's like the kindergarten of Wall Street. It makes sense that they would pay just enough to be competitive

>> No.11105142

>>11105062
white males with status anxiety concerned about loosing out in a dynamic globalised economy and alienated by an increasingly diverse and inclusive culture

>> No.11105149

>>11105091
Peter Thiel literally bankrolls Moldbug

>> No.11105157

>>11105142
>increasingly diverse and inclusive culture
Imagine thinking this was actually true and it's not that capitalism is slowly deracinating all cultures into a single and meaningless homogenous mix

>> No.11105167

first capitalism does not exist. what we have is the human rights and some liberals hate the ''freedom to use money'' and those retards claim that you can define a liberalism without this right [you cannot].

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>>11105149
Kanye West was initiated into a Sillicon Valley Neoreactionary Cult of Satanist Transhumanist Trump Supporters bent on using Rene Girard's mimetic desire theory and Landian accelerationist hyperstition to summon the AI Antichrist into this world. known members: Nick Land, Peter Thiel, Mencius Moldbug, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, the Dilbert Guy, Ray Kurzweil. Wake up Sheeple!

>> No.11105177

>>11105102
>That strawmeme
a strange look into the mind of a statist who thinks that the anyone who cares about the opioid epidmeic thinks banning them will work. Holy shit and then you have the gall to compare to completely unlike products (one a drug , the other weapons) with completely different affects on society. Oh my God, how much of my brain do I need to sacrafice to bong rips to think like the person who made this meme?

>> No.11105182

>>11105149
no he doesn't

>> No.11105188

>>11105177
fuck off NRA

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*show your phone*
Are we celebrating the good news :)

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>>11105188
the technology is out. states can no longer control the flow of information and that includes 3d printable firearms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK6-kbdHE2A

>> No.11105224

>>11105142
>inclusive culture
you are referring to the globalised economy here as well right?

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>>11105201
Dennis Rodman is the Talleyrand of the 21st century

>> No.11105243

>>11105206
the american obsession with guns truly is something out of this world

>> No.11105269

>>11105042

Thats a strange name. Which newspaper does he write for? Is it his pseudonym for The Economist?

>> No.11105275

>>11105243
It's all about sovereignty, stupid.

>> No.11105281

>>11105157
And what an unironically unironically wonderful world it will create.

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>>11105157
>a single homogenous mix
Good

>> No.11105288

>>11105182
He provided $100,000 in funding for Tlon

>> No.11105289

That I am at the wrong dinner party obviously

>> No.11105321

>>11105182
Peter Thiel and Moldbug are gay lovers

>> No.11105333

>>11105188
>Tfw even when I was hard left I was pro 2nd amendment
Centralizing authority in the hands of one federal state is a mistake. Arm the workers, secure your posterity.

>> No.11105337

>>11105281
Gross
>>11105286
Yikes

>> No.11105343

>>11105157
thank god for automation forcing so many people out of the global economy. Poverty is the only thing keeping unique culture alive. Wealthy bourgeois are cultural parasites to the last man.

>> No.11105377

>leave room
>lock door
>turn on the gas

>> No.11105380

>>11104851
>exerts are ignored
Agreed. Effort doesn't matter, only results.

>> No.11105389

>>11105333
>extremists are pro idiotic things
whomst would've thunk

>> No.11105402

>>11105137
this

>> No.11105407

>>11105377
Now that's what I call enlightenment

>> No.11105467

>>11105070
ah yes those pesky russian communists agitating still for the global proletarian revolution

>> No.11105468

>>11105070
>antisemites
Someone drank too much of the MSM's coolaid

>> No.11105493

>>11104851
>Half of these guys are actually crypto-nazi

>> No.11105499

>>11105389
Are you suggesting 139 of the 200 members of the Czech house of representatives are extremists?
300,000 Czechs, 2 million Swiss, and several thousands of Americans are by no means extremists, and an enabler of tyranny and utter faggotry like you is much worse for any climate than any of them.

>> No.11105503

>>11105070
just because I think they should be gassed doesn't mean i'm an antisemite. more of an anihlosemite

>> No.11105524

I don't care, because if truth doesn't matter then I don't exactly have to give a fuck, and it's only in the media game that truth has failed, it effects my life not. Are we having red or white wine?

>> No.11105534

>>11104851
>What are your opinions?
"I am all that has been and is and shall be; and no mortal has ever lifted my garment."