/lit/ - Literature

>>11102263
No it's a bad one.

>>11102276
well I came across Omoide Emanon today and it was fucking great

>>11102314
i'm thinking of original works
it includes light and visual novels, too
and cell phone novels

everyone who can read this before it 404
I urge you to go read "Boys on the run" by Kengo Hanazawa

>>11102351
ugly faces like in Oyasumi Punpun

>>11102263
Junji Ito is one of the only manga artists whose work approximates "literature".

>>11102404
Real faces

>>11102263
Considering fiction is defined as literature in prose, yes. Anything fictional is technically- and definitively-speaking literature, even flash ero fiction and those 6-word stories.

>Is it good, quality fiction upheld by tenured academics and critics as canonical literature?
Fuck no, even the islanders themselves don't believe in it. Some light novels, and stuff like Ranpo Kitan's works, maybe. Murakami is supposed to write in a surrealist-dreamscape literature, and they mock the shit out of him for being so inspired by western pulp fiction and old pop culture art.

That said, you can find good quality works in any variety of media formats; regardless of whatever category it's considered, it's still a quality work.
>Thankfully, the public doesn't get to decide what's considered quality, they only get to decide what's successful in the market.
>If Snoopi Kaur was likened to even Paulo Coelho, I'd stop rush-hour traffic in NY to publicly shit on her book in the middle of the streets.

>>11102422
There's the manga of Rampo Kitan, done by Kuroyama Mekki as well.
>Although, it is a tertiary work.

Manga adapted directly from anime adapted moderately from Edogawa Rampo's original works.

>>11102698
What a retarded proof. Please tell me where you took logic so I can take away their accreditation.

>>11102263
Honestly there is very little good manga. There are the works of Inio Asano, and then there are older Gekiga mangaka like Tatsumi Yoshihiro

But man, lots of the "classics" are trash. Ayako by none other than Osamu Tezuka is so bad. The writing just jumps all over the place and is barely a pulpy hard boiled detective story.

The art can be good, very good, but the writing just doesnt come close.

>>11102739
Matsumoto Taiyou is also good

>>11102263
>good manga

>>11102263
Manga is sequential artwork with supporting dialogue. "Good manga" tells a story through pictures. It transcends language. It is an entirely different expressive medium than literature.

>>11102739
I agree with this anon. Manga is little more than foreign comic books. There are a few crowning examples of storytelling or general writing, but a vast majority are less than pulp. I still love the penwork more than anything made in America however.

>>11102811
>shonen

When stephen cuck writes about a prepubescent orgy it's ok


but JAPANESE CARTOONS?!

>>11102928
total non-sequitur.. go back to pizzagate, drumpfkin...

>>11102943

yes steph, paedophilia is ok, now go back to twitter

>>11102263
Sure.

>>11102738
>took logic
Well dumbfuck, I read a dictionary and it said "fiction is literature in prose."

Tell me where the fuck you got your genes, so I can end the poor bastards' lives.

What a pathetic excuse for a fucking human in 2018, not even able to right click and select "search [Google] for '___' " yet makes it onto 4chin.

>>11102422
I'm working my way through a bunch of Ito I grabbed last month when they were 65% off on amazon. Interesting and disturbing, indeed.

>>11102263
Literature generally means the written word and seeing as how manga is a largely visual medium which utilizes art to an equal or even greater extent as words in order convey it's meaning rather than words and symbols alone it seems clear to me that it falls into a seperate category. A manga stripped of it's images and presented as text alone would be pretty nonsensical. There can be real artistry there and even good writing of a sorts but I wouldn't classify it as literature.

>>11102976
By your logic, your sex life is literature

>>11103202
Ha, great one anon. Almost on par with Lovecraft's wit.

>>11103349
He's right though. You have extrapolated the definition as to be ridiculous.

i don't care. quality is a spook. it entertains me, and all i need.

>>11102990
My fave has been uzumaki so far but all have been interesting

>>11102263
It can be phenomenal art but manga/comics are not literature

Can it be Literature? yes, but so can trite like Ready Player One. Can it be Literary? yes, but so can most John Green's books. Can it be Good? yes, but so are a lot of genre fiction books.
The real question is: Can it trascend in the same way the classics have? I don't know, that's our children's job to decide. For know we can only see if we can take influence from it, and only creators can do that, not critics.

>>11102953
>t. pedo

>>11102263
shitty interweb culture