/lit/ - Literature

rec me dark souls-esque book please

2nd for the witcher is shit

~5 minutes left to deadline according to local time, I'm going to say that we're done. Also, I made a new image, neat.

Did you like the book?
What did you think about the world?
Thoughts on the ending?
Thoughts on the book in general?

Also, don't forget to nominate books/stories for the coming month!

Opinions on the Vampire Hunter D novels?

sanderfag a hack

I need more books like Latro. Preferably set in ancient Greece, not necessary fantasy but mythological aspects are appreciated.

>>11101671
How many people typically do this? This is my first month here because I never thought to look at /lit/ for fantasy or scifi books.
I'll do next month when that comes round.

Redpill me on brandsand

>>11101680
>Did you like the book?
It was my first Dick Book and I really enjoyed it.
>What did you think about the world?
I liked it for the most part. However I felt that the police state was unconvincing, the suspicion and distrust usually present was lacking for most of the book.
>Thoughts on the ending?
Great, for most part. I don't know why he tried to explain everything with drugs lmao though. Absolutely unconvincing and contributed nothing to the book. The epilogue felt equally unnecessary.
>Thoughts on the book in general?
>tfw no Kathy gf
>tfw no Alys gf

>>11101622
Book of the new sun

>>11101707
never read them. ive watch the very first movie tough. tell me about them anon.

Just read the first Hyperion book, like it alot. Gonna give it a re-read pretty soon, I was just wondering if the second book wraps up the "cliffhanger" of the first one or if I need should just invest in the entire series

Any good novels with a girl protag?

>>11101959
Do you want degeneracy, comfy or something else?

>>11101959
Nope

>>11101977
Just give me something degenerate and then something comfy.

>>11101987
Start with Friday and then read Howl's Moving Castle.

>>11101998
>Friday
Heinlein?

>>11102004
Correct.

>>11102028
Thanks.
Will read.

>>11101680
I enjoyed it quite a bit
The ending had too much explanation and it wasn't a good one either
I prefer more subtle dystopian fiction, ones that are less blatant with the imprisonment of students and overbearing police state
But I did like how it says that the police state collapses under its own bureaucratic weight in the future though, that was a neat touch I haven't seen in many other dystopian works

I'd like to put my opinion in for Accelerando for the next book because I'm reading it already

>>11101788
Kathy was straight up crazy, don't stick your dick in crazy

>>11102093
>don't stick your dick in crazy
I'm self-destructive and it's my fetish.

>>11101959
Aurora
2312 (sort of)

>>11102100
Dick's description of her got me hot, but once she started talking about how she was crazy and then screamed in the restaurant I noped out of the character

help I can't read anything other than horrible litrpg

>>11101680
It was okay. I didn't care for the ending or how openly physically molesting Taverner was throughout the book. I've read better Dick stories.

>>11101680
which books are banned for this nomination?

>>11101671
The Witcher was pretty good until after the mage coup when Ciri becomes a main character.

>>11101959
Hild -- Nicola Griffith (historical fantasy)
The Night Circus -- Erin Morgenstern (victorian era fantasy)
Sewer, Gas & Electric – Matt Ruff (sci-fi, hilarious)
Synners – Pat Cadigan (cyberpunk)
The Diamond Age -- Neal Stephenson (post-cyberpunk)

>>11101892
I finished it yesterday. Can't believe I put it off so long. I feel like I need to get a way from it for awhile before getting into book 2.

>>11102088
>Accelerando
Dude, it's more than 400 pages long. Try to keep it below 200.

>>11102136
A Night in the Lonesome October, Slan, The Throne of Bones and Floornight. Roadside Picnic is already nominated.

>>11102088
>that the police state collapses under its own bureaucratic weight in the future though, that was a neat touch I haven't seen in many other dystopian works
While I feel like the epilogue was quite redundant, it's a nice and realistic, I feel, touch.

>>11101749
>tries to contain her awesomeness

>>11102134
>how openly physically molesting Taverner was throughout the book
It feels natural though. He's a superstar, if he was alive I'd have bet money on him getting #metoo'd a year ago.

>>11101680
We should read Solaris.

>Are the Ghostbloods affiliated with Autonomy?
"Affiliated with" is very wiggle-room-ish. I'll go ahead and give you a RAFO on that one, even though I can totally wiggle on this one. I'm just gonna say "RAFO"; I'm gonna do the ultimate wiggle. There have been dealings.
>Interactions?
Yes, there's been interactions.

>Kelsier is a part of Era 3

>Nalthis essay + star chart out by next year, maybe earlier

intredasting

>>11101721
Chimera by John Barth

Yikes

What are some fantasies with good humor? It doesn't have to be the main focus but I'd like it to have some light-hearted moments that actually make me laugh.

Other than Terry Pratchet ofc.

>>11103015
Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser

>>11102166
What, a board of people who talk about literature can't read 400 pages in a month?

You can't just push horror out of these threads you fucking faggots. There's no other way to discuss genre fiction on /lit/ without devolving into shitposts in two posts max.

>>11103053
>actually wanting to slog through Accelerando
wewlad.epub

>>11102866
Pleb

>>11101707
highly enjoyable trash
the setting is pretty neat

>>11101721
don't read chimera. chimera is garbage.

>>11101707
Once you read it you'll never call any other character a Mary Sue again

Because novels D is a Mary Sue that is to go even further beyond

>>11103434
What high-fantasy MC isn't a Mary Sue?

>>11103568
jesus christ.

>>11103599
Delete

>>11101959
Lirael

How'd I do?

>>11103782
>(((Sterling)))

>>11101892
Book 2 finishes the story of book 1 but it's not as good.
Stopped reading there because 3,4 are worse.

>>11103568
Frodo

>>11101707
Funny how a vampire hunter and Vitamin D both kill vampires.

>>11103053
I'm sure most people can but the idea behind monthly reading is that the stories we read should not interfere with our usual reading, so 400 pages is to much. 100-150 pages is ideal desu.

>Trying to get into Codex Alera
>All the shit with furies is too confusing
Am I just a brainlet?

>>11101680
i nominate the first dying earth book by jack vance

>>11101680
couldnt be arsed to read but I appreciated the work you're doing, livening the threads up a bit

>>11104087
i pretty much skipped all chapters that didnt include isana or tavi. the fury stuff still made complete sense to me.

Any books with rebellion theme? Already read baru the traitor cormorant, red rising series...

>>11104232
Mistborn 1

>>11104087
You may actually be retarded, what's confusing to you?

>>11104232
The classic.

>>11101680
We have to talk about the fart. Such a jarring line. What did Dick mean by it and why did he put it in the book?

What's the consensus on Ursula K LeGuin around here?

>>11104793
Good author

>>11104194
I did the same. Amara and Bernard were cute at first, but after a while I found myself speedreading through their chapters. I only really cared about Tavi and his barbarian waifu Kitai. Speaking of which I wish there was decent art of her out there. Actually the series in general doesn't really have a lot of art. Is it not popular or something?

>>11103163
So discuss some horror you chuckle fuck.

>>11104814
it sold almost as much as the dresden files. im pretty sure theres a lot of fan art. my main issue is theres too many viewpoints. its probably just me but i hate it when a book has too many seperate viewpoints. i like one view point from the mc and the other characters are told by their dialog and related thoughts.

Wow this series is good.

http://seriousreading.com/author-interviews/8761-interview-with-stevian-heartbound-author-of-to-kill-a-god.html

>>11104895
Fuck you.

>>11102124
I have the same problem.

>>11090465
>>11090465
>>11090465
>>11090465
Why is my read chart in this meme?

What do I read after Bakker and Vampires in Space?

>>11105048
See >>11104895

>>11104921
That existed since he used to force shilled here years ago.

>>11104962
you used to post it a lot more when I made that

https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Metal-Modern-Science-Fiction-ebook/dp/B01MQ4GWPI/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1477410826&sr=1-1&keywords=cold+metal

Is this book any good? I've never heard of this author before, but I saw an ad for this book on amazon.

What are some fantasy with wholesome romances that have a satisfying ending? I'm tired of love triangles, stupid misunderstandings, forced drama and bittersweet endings.

>>11105876
honestly can't think of many that don't include the shit you mention

What do anons think of the Raven's Shadow books?

>>11105876
Codex Alera I guess. Three of the POV characters including the protagonist get a happy ending with their significant other.

>>11105909
You should read the first book as an open-ended standalone and skip the other two. The only good part about book two and three was that mind-controlled guy and the evil waifu.

>>11105909
first book or two seems ok, then I dropped it

>>11105954
the Tavi and Kitai romance happened way too fast desu

>>11104962
Is that "female urban fantasy" book any good?

>>11105909
Amazing>Why am I reading this>didn't read this. The shift to multi-pov kills the momentum he had, I only liked one POV in the second book and it wasn't even the protagonist.

his new series is good though

>>11105909
Read Blood Song and stop.

>>11104793
Wizard of Earthsea is a classic

>>11104700
>>11104232
Seconding Lord of Light

Why does it feel like every book I pick up lately is fucking terrible? Am I depressed? I just want to read something good with no bullshit mixed in like childish writing (Sanderson) or terrible exposition dumps or other annoying things. Something that feels like it has a point and strives for that since the very first sentence.

>>11104726
Seriously, what the fuck? Absolutely retarded.

>>11104895
Throne of Glass is one of the books I'm reading now lol. Yeah it's dumb. Even on Goodreads girls are roasting it. But honestly it's no worse than Brandon Sanderson.

>>11106600
read some KJ Parker, you might not like him but he does that perfectly

>>11106656
It also gets better, it was Sarah's first time writing a novel and it shows.
The beginning is a bit retarded. The whole tournament shit and that the girl doesn't seem to be mentally affected from her stay in Auschwitz but once past that it's fun enough.

>>11106600
You're suffering because what you want doesn't exist yet, you must create it.

>>11106681
What is his best?

>>11106691
I'm not sure how compelled I'll feel to read the later books but I'm only at the start of the tournament. Since it was her first book, I might jump series and start Court of Thorns next to see her writing progression.

initials for first name = women author
avoid

>>11106780
CoT is better

>>11105497
Kindle has a decent return policy. Try it and see if it's any good.

>>11106600
>Something that feels like it has a point and strives for that since the very first sentence.
Truly you yearn for a book as pretentious as yourself. You must write it.

>>11107017
I apologize, I do not own a kindle. I was considering buying a physical copy and I wanted to know if anyone else was familiar with the book. I want to make sure it's not a waste of money.

I've actually purchased physical copies of kindle books before but was unable to get a refund for them. I just want to be sure it's not a waste.

>>11106783
Go away

>>11106238
It's enjoyable for me. Have some more.

Thoughts?

>>11107492
Advertising your book?

>>11107582
I wish
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/02/mother-19-stabbed-boyfriend-had-sexual-intercourse-dressed-clown/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ascendance-Kieran-Bewick/dp/1521006660

>>11107614
I thought those google search results were just a coincidence.

>>11107614
based man killer

>>11107614
God I wish that was me

>>11106762
I'd start with the Scavenger trilogy first. If you like then then move onto either the Fencer or Engineer trilogy (probably the latter).

Absolutely no bullshit and tons of cynicism.

>>11107393
I'm not ashamed to say I think Kim Harrison is the best urban fantasy I've read.

>>11106783
Unless it's a female protag or women's genre

>>11102124
>>11104946
Rec me some litrpg

>>11102124
Same here. I'm reading everything in the hope of finding a few good litrpgs. No idea why but I'm on a mission.

>>11107920
list some you've read, fruitbowl

>>11107948
Good or bad?

>>11107956
Worst to best. As if it matters.

Working on this jacket/cover for my fantasy project in the event I self publish. Still in the early stages of querying agents so hopefully it doesn't come to that, but I had some spare time so I whipped this up.

Thoughts (on the summary, is it interesting? & the overall art and design)?

>>11108008
Also, yes, I know about the typo in the last sentence of the summary oops.

>>11107970
> Actually decent tier:
Awaken Online - Just a really solid series. Good characters.
The Stork Tower Series - the MC is a bit of a Mary Sue but it's written very well instead of coming across as fan fiction like most litrpg.
Everybody Loves Large Chests - Actually funny.

> Above Average Tier:
The Gam3 Series
Accidental Traveler Adventures

> Dog shit Tier:
The Land Series - fuck knows why this is popular, probably because it was one of the first. The MC is an asshole and not in a good way. The author also seems to have never talked to a woman in his life.

> Everything else:
Too much smut-rpg to mention.

>>11107614
She should write a manifesto instead of trashy fantasy desu.

>>11108030
The land series is a negro protag and a negro writer too
Even if its only mentioned once or twice in the books.
I didn't like the series, too silly, also the decision making for stats/skills/etc drives you fucking crazy with how bad it is

Theres quite a number of decent series on royal road I've discovered

>>11107492
>wear armor
>leave most vulnerable spot open because of undeniable need to show off bags of fat
Every time. It's like clockwork.

>>11108008
Its a bit hard to comment without knowing the story is suppose, so I don't know how helpful any of this will be. But that cover looks like a romantic novel aimed at 40 year old women. I do really like the art style and the title but don't really like any of the fonts used.
The "a new fantasy novel" is a bit out of place imo maybe try to summarise the first 5 chapters or so in a sentence? I'm not sure, but something doesn't feel right about that line. The cursive line on the back might be better suited there?
I liked the summary and am interested in the book after reading it.

Anyone read these?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Meyer_(author)#Magic_2.0

>>11108072
Thanks man. All good points. I’m considering trying to photoshop out the dude because the rest of the painting works really well for the late 19th century aesthetic but it does suggest a romance novel. The lady would stay because that’s would be Bethany.

>>11108061
Yeah the stat boxes go completely over the top, they take up pages sometimes. He also has an annoying habit of dropping pop-culture references every other paragraph. Annoying as fuck.

> Average Tier:
Ascend Online - not bad but I found it kind of meh

There are probably many other series I've forgotten about.

>>11107766
That was until she shit the series down the toilet by trying to please her vocal minority shippers, and rewrote the last few books to have Rachel and Trent end up together .
You better believe she regrets that. No one trusts her anymore. Her last series failed horribly.
Now I stop recommending Kim Harrison.
She is only on that list because it was made before that ever after shit fest.

This should be a lesson to aspiring authors. Write your book, and don't let your fans write it for you. You could lose everything by listening to a few vocal romance shitters.

>>11107890

>>11108133
This was our punishment for banning webnovels. Something much worse took its place. I hope you're all happy with yourselves.

>>11108155
im pretty sure that guy is just trying to force a meme to annoy people. just ignore him. im also pretty sure only one of the books on that list is actually a litrpg.

>>11108155
Oh fuck off.

2018 is the year boyos.
Thrall in fall
Super Sales 2 on Tuesday,nthen super sales 3 fall
Wild wastes 3 fall
GET HYPED

>>11108124
> That was until she shit the series down the toilet by trying to please her vocal minority shippers
It wasn't that bad albeit a bit rushed / forced. I wouldn't say it spoiled the series at all, maybe only affected the last few books.

Go look at the Anita Blake books if you want to see an author really destroying her characters and series.

> Her last series failed horribly.
That was because it was a terrible premise that led to a horribly complicated plot where everything and anything could be retcon'd at any point.

>>11108177
Just read "The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect" already and I'll gladly accept your apology.

>>11108133
They are smutrpg, not litrpg. Most of them don't even have levelling or stats.

>>11108189
you know super sales 2 had been out since christmas right? not sure how i feel about nick podehl narrating it though. i mean hes alright but i feel jeff hays was better suited.

>smut audio books
wat

>>11108260
Leaves your hands free if you know what I mean ...

>>11108260
oh boy. i take it you dont even know about female "romance" authors and the staggering amount of smut audiobooks that result from that.

>>11108281
SEXY MARTIN LUTHER

>>11108030
I shilled Everybody Loves Large Chests here so it's good to see somebody else liked it. Sequel is more blatant, less wry but I still finished it.

I like the NPCs series for litpnp. I won't say it's great, but the author has a published series running and at least workman skills. It won't blow anyone away but is small and earnest, lit its protagonist.

For smutrpg I read King of Dinosaurs, which I saw shilled here. I took it in the spirit in which it was offered and anon was exactly correct. The funny thing is I felt if the author had kept it clean with the same ridiculous premise it might have been more entertaining. The Legendary Builder is kind of smut but the game aspect was front and center and dominated everything else. As was the Crucible Shard series, but that grow old faster.

Robert Bevan's litpnp series Critical Failures reads like an extended shitpost. At first, it's fun to read about what it would be like if you became the barbarian character who used charisma and intelligence as a dump stat (an illiterate sharter), but it peters out after a few volumes.

The only one I dropped after one volume was a comedy by Bob Defendi, which didn't make me laugh.

>>11108173
>im pretty sure that guy is just trying to force a meme to annoy people
God, I fucking hate that.

>>11108308
fuck man i was the guy who initially shilled super sales and i liked that some people enjoyed it.
on that account though i kinda hate the "litrpg" communites and how people make it seem like everyone is as retarded as them. one of the primariy reasons i liked supersales was because it was so light on the rpg elements. i mean william d arand himself actually said he didnt wants to tone them down even more. then he wrote dungeon deposed and it didnt have a single litrpg numbers bullshit part in it and i enjoyed it greatly. i really truly hate actual lirpgs like for example the land. that shit was fucking bad. couldnt get even halfway into the first book. the only traditional litrpg with numbers and stats and all that that i actually enjoyed and though was quite good was emerilia. i enjoyed that a great deal.

>>11108064
You wouldn't stab a lady in the tits, would you?

>>11108260
go to audiobook bay and filter for romance.
8 out 10 books on each page will either be women smut romance about fantasies of being gangraped or gay smut romance.

>>11108358
Emerilia was probably my first true litrpg series. It started out pretty good but I felt it really dropped in quality after a few books.

>>11108358
>emerilia
Queued, thank you.

I don't know any litrpg communities as I avoid all communities except 4chan, for reasons. But I like the genre, for all its problems. I cringe in disgust at comic book wish fulfillment but I smile at it here. Maybe kill monsters get bitches was my little boy fantasy, rather than bullied kid brings teh justice. Maybe it's seeing boyishness stamped out everywhere in culture but clinging to life in this ridiculous niche. Maybe I'm just a pleb. But usually, for some reason, I can like the books in spite of and sometimes because of their flaws.

>>11108307
Did he nail her with his thesis?

>>11108431
Why you don't just read fantasy instead of those autistic pieces of garbage is beyond me.

>>11108358
Super sales had alright characters and some fine action scenes but it's like the author forgot to include the plot. Or rather the pacing of it is just abysmal, I expected at least having some villain if not the main one revealed by the end of the first book, but it just never happens. I think literally nothing gets revealed about the few main girls backgrounds and the memories they lost or who is attacking them. Does the 2nd book go anywhere or is it still an absolute slog with no progression?

>>11108616
I do, but it seems trapped in a netherworld where it can only commit to its form by denying its desires. Fantasy today tries to be proper.

>>11108630
Just start with Howard and you'll find your stride.

>>11108630
>I don't like modern punk so I'll just listen to Cindy Lauper

>>11108635
I've read Howard and he's great, but his kind was erased when the Jews won WWII. Now it's all the good boy fights the Dark Lord, doesn't he now.

>>11108646
>fantasy
>punk
You know you don't mean that

>>11108616
The thing that gets me is that generally unless it's by Robin Hobb or another misery porn author, you're gonna get some level of entertaining power fantasy even if it's "nothin' personal kid" tier trash.

But with litrpg it's just lietrally some guy playing a video game. how the fuck is that entertaining.

>>11108661
well don't read the garbage ones where its just a guy playing a video game and fucking npc's

>>11108620
gotta read all of the books for a deep plot.
hes doing this interwoven universes thing. all of williams books are connected. otherilfe, super sales, wild wastes and now dungeon deposed are all in the same universe and interconnected.

>>11108415
i think a lot of events happened too fast but i liked all the characters. also the audiobooks. i think the one for the 5th just came out. still gotta listen to that.

>>11108431
>But usually, for some reason, I can like the books in spite of and sometimes because of their flaws.
this. obviously theres flaws especially because these authors are all mostly selfpublished and selfthought. but what i appreciate the most of those books is that nothing every truly bad happens. i enjoy stories where the hero gets the girl/s and they go on adventures and then live happily ever after. i can tolerate it if stories arent as intruiging or interwoven as long as the characters are all fleshed out, distinct and greatly written. i like the feeling of advanture and going on journey in these types of books.
theres too many books where only bad things happen and characters i grow to like are killed of for stupid or asinine reasons.

>>11108681
so you're saying don't read any of them at all?

>>11108752
???

well right now i'm reading this one called "shovel knight", and its readable.

>>11101680
I liked it though it felt a bit harem anime at times (pottery waifu best girl). I was really affected by the story of the rabbit in the same way I imagine the general was affected at the end by Taverner's situation and that had a powerful effect upon me. This was then completely ruined by the last chapter of the book. I really wish he had just left it.

this one was so much better than altered carbon

where does market forces rank?

>>11108945
I have only read the Kovacs books and his fantasy novels but I have heard that Black Man is his best work.

>>11103863
What's wrong with him? Islands is one of those recommended cyberpunk books.

>>11101604
Forever ago in one of these threads someone was talking about a bunch of old novels that were like Indiana Jones but cooler or some shit and I cannot for the life of me remember what they were. Someone care to help me out?

>>11108945
Does it still have tons of sex in it?

>>11105909
First book was good
second book was okay
third book was kinda okay for the most part and then fucked up the ending

>>11109220
I'm almost sure you're talking about Allan Quatermain. Probably King Solomon's Mines.

>>11107614
>an insane teen qt redhead cosplaying as John Wayne Gacy will never sacrifice you to Ereshkigal

Life is suffering

>>11108945
>Morgan freaked out at some reviewer who didn't like it and sent the reviewer an email saying 'you just can't handle or understand the strong masculine black protagonist who doesn't apologise for his blackness that I've masterfully crafted'. The review said nothing about race nor even hinted at it beyond stating the protagonist was black

>>11109238
3 sex scenes that I recall
none as graphic as altered carbon

>>11109327
Sauce? Also, isn't the author one of the pastiest mothet fuckers this side of Iceland, kek?

>>11109294
I don't think that was it but I appreciate the response. It was something a bit more shlocky than that. God this is gonna keep me up trying to remember this shit.

>>11109557
There was a lot of shit like this around the era, the fucking Tarzan books were an endless stream of trashy pulp. I can't even begin to guess if it's not Quatermain

>>11109342
why would you even remotely consider that that quote might have been real?

>>11109763
I've been dining on too much Rothfuss.

>>11109220
How old ? 1920s ? 1990s ?

>>11109220
Dinosaurs are to be forgotten in the past.

>>11109978
is the dying earth a Christian book ? I love canticle for Lebovic. Shadow of the torturer was kind of boring for me, bum im gona read the series after some Dostoevsky

How does /sffg/ feel about The Dark Tower?

>>11110120
great original books. shit movie. shit remake of the books.

>>11110017
No. Jack Vance was agnostic at best. He mocked organized religion throughout his work (unfortunately, in my opinion).

>Antagonist wins the MC Bowl
why does this never happen?

>>11109978
I loved those three books

>>11109768
Morgan showed up in the comments of a blog once to yell at the reviewer about how "The sex I write is the sex I have!" so yeah I could see it happening.

>>11109215
I read Schismatrix plus. Nothing but transhumanist idealism and moral relativism. Hence the Hebrew brackets.

Any cool novels with a girl protag?

>>11101680
As far as the characters go this book is one of PKD’s best, each personally is intriguing and builds a certain overarching identity for the vile, corrupted and immensely confused world as a whole.
I felt that much of the book was not as much about the lose of identity but mostly the lose of virtue, depicted and symbolized through various characters and situations, and in a sense the book felt to me like it’s Dick depicting what it means to lose something we identified strongly with, and eventually losing oneself to chaos.
I found the theme extremely relatable as I got dumped by my exgirlfriend recently, and I mean dumped in the most literal way possible, she really left me in a pile of my own garbage.
Where do you start and end, what is worth living for? And how do you continue after losing something that meant everything for you?
All these questions resonated with me powerfully and helped me move forward to a better place.
The ending was complete hogwash though and I was disappointed that the narrative was tied up so clumsily.
Overall I felt PKD did a very good job with this book, but it’s not as strong as a whole as Ubik or Do Androids.

Anyone reading Wild Cards ?

I just started book 2, i really like it

>>11105048
Dune if you haven't read it yet. Otherwise, you've reached the apex of sci-fi and fantasy, the only way forward from there is scientific literature.

>>11110017
No, Vance isn't that kind of author. His books don't have grand themes or ambitions, they're just really, really, really good pulp. A Vance book reads the way a Frazetta painting looks.

>>11111421
this is the last time im responding to you
golden compass

>>11105048
Blindsight, it's pretty good and has vampires, in space, and with a whole lot of other stuff going on

>>11111931
echoproxia is the sequel to blindsight dummy

>>11111931
Kek. Nice one, buddy.
Blindsight was awesome though.

are there more images of the avern?

>>11112139
Severian is a big guy.

>>11111421
>get loads of recommendations
>keep posting anyway
Hack.

>>11111520
Yeah, I also really liked the characters. One theme I read into the book was the importance of having people to love and be loved by.

>4.7 stars on Amazon

>>11112139
if i take off that mask, will you die?

>>11111567
I hate Wild Cards with a passion. It's a stupid idea, stupid characters and stupid stories.

What are some books like Howl's Moving castle (the movie, not the book)

I'm about halfway done with Until They Are Hanged and I still do not understand all this hype around Joe Abercrombie. So far the First Law trilogy is "okay", but I see this immense body of hype around it and his other work and it just doesn't line up with what I'm experiencing. I feel let down even though I'm enjoying the series well enough.

>>11112457
>I still do not understand all this hype around Joe Abercrombie
Same. I don't understand what people see in his writing.

>>11112471
In terms of writing style he's a little more creative than your Sandersons or your Jordans, but in terms of character he's pretty standard, and in terms of plot and setting he's downright cliched.

>>11112457
Reading Abercrombie is like watching a marathon between a tortoise and a sloth.

>>11112488
I don't really get this description. I've seen multiple people in /sffg/ complain about how slowly the plot develops but it's not that slow at all. But then, I've read all of Wheel of Time, Malazan Book of the Fallen, and all of Tad Williams' stuff, so my perception of what a slowly developing plot skews toward "takes 3 books before shit starts happening".

>>11110120
The first was intriguing. The second and thereafter revert to pure King which you might or might not like.

So I made this. It's basically how I evaluate the quality of fantasy novels. Tier 1 is stuff that is inexcusable in a professionally published work, and on the other hand it's rare for a book to have even 1 aspect in tier 5, let alone more than 1.

>>11113074
What about zazz ?

>>11109782
I'm thinking 40's or 50's maybe? Honestly it's been so fucking long since they mentioned it that I can't even remember.
>>11110017
BoTNS is honestly the best thing I've ever read. Something about just struck a chord somewhere deep down in my soul and I haven't been able to get over it since I finished it. I'm currently making my way through the rest of the solar cycle while also reading the bible lmao.

dear authors: the 4th wall is the most important wall, please don't break it

>>11113378
i honstely havent even read a book thats been released in the last 10 years or so that did break the wall. i think its fallen out of fashion.

>>11108213
D-List supervillain isn't smutrpg or litrpg, or rpg at all.

>>11108760
>shovel knight
Any relation to the game?

>>11113581
no

>>11113581
https://royalroadl.com/fiction/12798/the-tale-of-a-shovel-knight

I meant this one, plenty of enjoyable garbage on this site

>>11113074
Obviously you can't judge the whole work because no way am I posting my manuscript here, but apply your rubric as best you can to this bit of gunpowder fantasy (late victorian era but with magic, in my case) worldbuilding from my novel, M8.

>They left the coffeehouse with more ease than they had entered. Gabron continued to lead her but Bethany knew the way to the railway terminal and was reassured to see it was being followed. As they drew toward the city center, more windows bore lights and chatter. Fights and dances spilled from tavern doors into the streets, where parties of drunks waited for the little, cream colored steam trams to halt and accept them. Bethany watched such a group board, heard the driver protest something, and then the clink of coins. On this the machine began to move again, its wheels slipping as it mounted a hill, belching sparks and ash from the stack at its middle and high into the night.

>“Must we walk?” Bethany inquired, her bare feet growing ever colder.

>Gabron seemed to consider it. Drawing a plain but enormous watch from his pocket he consulted its glowing hands. “Yes, we are making fine time.”

>Fleeing again entered her mind. She had the 1000 Ritters and the pardon, but Gabron had kept her passport. The money was good, but the pardon could be canceled, and without her passport there was no leaving the city. With the Ritters she could hide for a while - take rooms, make a bribe - but she could not run. It was clever. As much as she knew she was being taken against her will, she could not help but feel that she was now an accomplice. There was, had to be, a way out she failed to see. She knew of men that had built entire merchant empires from 500 Ritters but she could not, with 1000, make a simple escape.

>A fountain stood before the railway terminal. Around the fountain was a looping track on which the trams turned around. Several stood idle there while hackney carriages deposited a trickle of rail travelers before the great arches of the terminal house. Gas chandeliers with naked flames burned brightly in the main hall and hundreds more benches than were presently required lay like pews beneath. A man in a holed felt cap sat in the very center, plucking a zither and chewing on an unlit pipe. The travelers assiduously avoided him, staking out instead the edges of the formation of benches. Most were lone men who had come in on whatever business and were now taking the night train home. One family with two young girls and seven pieces of luggage were far brighter eyed and seemed bound for the country.

Any recommendations like the Johannes Cabal series? Or the Pyat quartet for that matter?

>>11113641
damn that was so bad I had to invent a 0 tier just for it

here's the final score:

0/0/0/0

>>11113684
Okay, thanks!

>>11113641
The rubric is not really designed for such small scale analysis. At best I can apply the prose part, but really it's not very helpful since the rest of your story could be wildly different from this excerpt. It's best applied to a book as a whole, or several books taken together as one story. It would be erroneous and disingenuous to treat these few paragraphs as a complete text even for the purposes of an example, so there's nothing I can say on the matter of plot, characters, or setting here.

That said, if the rest of your prose is comparable to this, I would rate it a solid 3. There's some nice description there in the last paragraph and the characterization in the 4th paragraph is nicely done also, but the first paragraph is less concrete and veers into vague summary. Without getting too nit-picky I just feel it doesn't set the scene as strongly as the last paragraph, but again this is based off a tiny sample so it's hardly authoritative. It could be that first paragraph works nicely when it has proper context with what came before, but lacking it I can only judge what I see.

>>11113641
>>11113766
Oh, and I thought I should make this clear: that rubric is made mainly from the perspective of a reader, not an author. It's what makes a book great and engaging for a reader. When talking about prose though it tends to get into more writerly concerns since most readers do not notice prose when it is done well.

>>11113766
>veers into vague summary.
Isn't that necessary on some level? I have readers tell me to cut all of the travelling scenes like that and just jump from primary setting to primary setting (places in which plot-important events occur). The summary is a sort of compromise.

>>11113652
>Johannes Cabal
It's readable, but a little heavy handed on the author's part Reading it I had the feeling he wanted to shake off the moralism but didn't know how.

>>11113789
>Isn't that necessary on some level?
Yes, summary is fine when you don't want to bore your audience. But don't be a cocktease and dangle half-assed descriptions in the reader's face and then pull away from the scene. That's what I meant here, your description in the first paragraph waffles, seeming to go into detail, then dancing away to move the scene along. If you don't want anything important to happen on the walk to the station don't linger on it. Give us a sentence to know it transpired then move along.

By contrast your descriptions in the last two paragraphs are wonderful. If you gave me a 30,000 word novella where the average paragraph was at that level I'd rate it a 4, easily.

>>11113837
Point taken. The actual purpose of that paragraph is to begin to establish that electricity (at least as a power source) isn't used in my world. That's why I call attention to the steam trams, though that's not the only time I intimate the lack of electricity of course.

Here's some examples of what I consider to be prime description in my work:

>A cold, smoky wind met them as they stepped on the platform. An ornate glass and iron ceiling rose high above them and covered tens of tracks. Bethany knew that during the day, each one would be occupied, but now only the nearest one was. An apple green locomotive, lined in gold paint, with a black nose led a fifteen carriage train. It sat on the tall driving wheels of an express engine but had a largely open cab and other features that spoke to old age. This night duty would likely be its last before the scrappers.

-------------

>Bethany awoke to the smell of sea air and citrus. It was light outside and far warmer than it had been in the city. Through the compartment’s open windows the seaside raced by. This was the water-level line, built to be dead flat and plumb straight whenever possible. It was said that only here were the engine drivers allowed to make their best possible pace. Indeed, the locomotive’s broad driving wheels were blurred and the sound of its whistle seemed to stretch with the speed as it announced its coming and going through the little shore towns. Beyond these lay fields of flax, cotton, and tobacco interspersed with vast groves of fruit trees. An old steam packet chuffed its way north near inshore, farther out the white sails of pleasure and fishing boats shimmered.

-----------------


>After a while, superfluous and bored, Bethany pulled on a coat and went on deck. The sails were only half unfurled to reduce Fletch’s weathercocking but the steam engine seemed to be running strong. Downdrafts slammed chocking clouds of ash and exhaust to the deck that the rain then chased away. A verst distant, Dunstable fell in and out of view with each wave. Wearing a vast raincoat, Granger manned the helm. Bethany hid from his gaze, knowing for certain he would send her back to her cabin for her own good. She walked haltingly around to boiler room skylight, which was now dogged shut. Looking down she saw the stokers working in a half-trance as chunks of coal rolled about at their feet. Badrine was there as well, his blue coat off, his sleeves and arms greasy and black. “Don’t let it burn through, watch for shifts in the coal!” He instructed while concentrating on the water gauge.

People on here seem to love Sabriel, but I honestly could never get into it even as a kid. Seventh Tower, on the other hand, was my jam. Also enjoyed Keys to the Kingdom, Nix is an absolute madman with that ending in a children's book.

So I started reading Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, and The Bleak Shore and Bazaar of the Bizarre sold me, and I bought the collected works. Hyped as fuck.

>>11113641
Your prose is fine, but I really don't like the fourth paragraph. It explains stakes to the audience that should be clear from what's happening, and even informs them how they should be responding to this information through the voice of the character (thinking a plan is clever, wondering what options there are, etc.). It's not quite at Sanderson levels of outright asking questions that the reader should be asking themselves just in virtue of reading ("Who was that mysterious figure? What could all of this mean?"), as if the audience is supposed to be utterly passive, but it's in similar territory.

>>11113877
To me, good description has to be both aesthetically and logically sound. To be aesthetically sound it should be both vivid and precise in its imagery, so that a clear picture is made in the mind of the reader. Logically sound means thinking about the context of the description in the scene: is this description even necessary? Does this description contradict any information I've previously given? Does it properly convey information and connotative impressions I want the reader to have? These are the questions you should ask whenever you devote a lot of effort to writing description. Adding to the story doesn't always make it better, if it detracts from elsewhere.

Given that, rating descriptions in isolation is mostly about aesthetics, but given your obvious experience with writing I think you're a good judge of whether or not something is well done aesthetically. So instead I'll try and give you my analytical impressions.

>paragraphs
This gives me the impression that Bethany knows a lot about trains and engineering in general. You tend to start these little scenes with Bethany's perspective, something she sees or smells or knows or is doing, then launch into very specific descriptions of machines and things associated with them. This creates the impression Bethany knows these things also, and is noticing them. That might be your intention, Bethany might be an engineer, after all, or it might not be. That's just what I noticed here.

>>11113992
>and even informs them how they should be responding to this information through the voice of the character (thinking a plan is clever, wondering what options there are, etc)
I read that as characterization, not exposition. Conveying how Bethany thinks and her assessment of her companion is not patronizing to me and actually helps me understand her as a character. That she notices this and has an opinion about it is not waste description in the least.

>>11113992
I'm no writer, and I can agree with your sentiment, but why wouldn't a character's inner thoughts include their thought process?

Seth Dickinson’s Baru Cormorant Series Gets A Fourth Novel
https://www.tor.com/2018/05/01/baru-cormorant-fourth-novel-seth-dickinson-the-masquerade/

>>11114008
She's not an engineer but this is stuff that would have been somewhat understood in her era. Noticing that a locomotive looks old because of the way it looks isn't something you could do, but you could probably do it with a car.

I think I have a tendency to over-describe the machinery because it's so abstracted from our time period. We still know what people, plants, and animals look like, but what average reader knows the sights and sounds of an Edwardian era boiler room? It's also a passion of mine and it's going to shine through regardless, like Hayao Miyazaki and planes.

Here's something that has nothing to do with steam technology:

>An autumn wind coursed down the old boulevard. Atop their rusted poles, gaslamps flared and died. Gabron drew his powder blue bailiff’s coat tight against the gathering cold and stopped beneath a lamp whose panes were intact enough to keep a flame. He cast his eyes down the cobbled street: there was little life. It was well past dusk and most of the working denizens rose before dawn.

>If the battered facades had ever been numbered, they were no longer. Guarding it carefully against the wind, Gabron slipped a scrap of paper from his pocket and unfolded it. He found north, then compared the layout of the street with what the drunk had marked down in smeared pencil. The second building on the right - and sure enough a light burned in its garret. He exchanged the crude map for a palm sized photographic plate and studied it intensely in the quivering light, memorizing the face depicted there once again.

>Gabron crossed the boulevard and entered the building. The brass buttons of his coat shone in the dark foyer as he undid them and a drew a hulking five line revolver. When the first stair creaked, he stepped off and removed his boots, tucking them in a far corner.

>Each floor passed agonizingly. With each movement he risked kicking over some toy or bit of trash and waking the whole building. Among these people the burglar that he was by necessity imitating or the bailiff he was would draw equal, considerable, anger. Reaching the uppermost landing his head nearly hit the rafters. He breathed, swore, and approached the garret’s scant door.

>There was no lock, there never was, and a tentative push indicated it was not barred. With his left hand he swung it open, keeping the revolver poised with his right. The gas pipes did not go this high in the ratty building, so instead a cheap lantern with a warped tin shade hung from the highest rafter. Its dancing light fell on a straw covered floor, a small coal stove with a dead fire, and an easel. On the easel were the beginnings of a disreputable painting of a black haired girl, who, he noticed when looking beyond the canvas, slept in the corner having, it appeared, drifted off while posing. On this observation he wheeled around and found just behind him the sleeping form of another girl in man’s linen shirt marked all over with drips of paint.

>>11114049
>locomotive looks old
that's recursive, oops, I meant is old because of the way it looks.

>>11114026
Whether it's characterization or not, clearly it's there for exposition too. I'm not sure what characterization there is in recounting verbatim a character's thoughts, where those thoughts are just what any person would have given the same situation. Rebuking herself for not knowing how to escape with twice what people have made merchant empires out of is non-trivial characterization: it shows what she's familiar with, what she aspires to, that she's self-critical, etc. Just stringing together a bunch of telegraphed sentences basically telling us that she's wondering how to escape is something that we don't need.

>>11114032
You can't include everything, including a character's thoughts. If we know from the events of the plot that a character wants to escape, we don't need to hear, " 'How am I going to escape?' she thought." There is more than that in the paragraph, but that is the gist of it.

>>11114037
Never heard of it, why should I read the series?

>>11114049
I would argue that if she's not an engineer she wouldn't be quite so keen on the specific details, but perhaps she would notice that something looks old or out of fashion, and perhaps enough to remark on what particularly looks old or peculiar. But as for noticing every day things in minute detail, that's uncommon for people not especially knowledgeable on the subject. For example, most people do not look at a webpage and think about the UX design in detail, they would however probably notice if it was particularly old and lacking in modern features.

>>11114079
>If we know from the events of the plot that a character wants to escape, we don't need to hear, " 'How am I going to escape?' she thought."
As the author, would it help if I told you that in the preceding pages she had been debating whether to attempt an escape? The paragraph isn't about her wanting to escape, it's about her reasoning through how an escape would work and if escape is even desirable. The protag isn't being sold into slavery or something, she's being taken home to her distant father who she hates. However he is also quite wealthy, and if she submits to his plans for her, she can be wealthy as well.

>>11114087
The main character has never betrayed anyone in her entire life.

>>11112439
Howl's Moving Castle(The Book)

just finished Red Sister by Mark Lawrence. The last few chapters fell really flat for me and a bit slogged in the middle but otherwise I liked a lot of the setting and learning more about it. Any other good books that are part of the sci-fi but feels fantasy genre...basically book of the new sun but more character development and less catholic philosophizing

>>11114321
Did you read Long Sun?

>>11114326
not yet, I usually do audiobooks since I multitask a lot. jonathan davis did a great narration for BOTNS btw

>>11107890
Morningwood, everybody loves large chests.

>>11110120
on balance i liked it and don't regret reading it, although the last two books were a bit shit. i didn't hate the ending as much as everyone else seemed to.

>>11112457
In my opinion Abercrombie doesn't get really good until the third First Law book. If you still think he's just okay after that I wouldn't bother reading on.

>>11113074
congrats on the most autistic chart yet
can't wait to see it spammed every thread

>>11114037
yay

>>11114139
good post

I want to get into Fantasy. I've read the first books in the Wheel of Time, Game of Thrones and The Stormlight Archve and either didn't finish or just straight up didn't like them. I found they just dragged on and on, didn't really build much of a world and, while the entire series of books may tell an interesting story, none of them stood on their own and I'm not interested in having to slog through 800 pages to get to good bits or to only have 1000 / 10,000 pages be good.

So, having said that, what might I like? I have very fond memories of The Hobbit and LotR as a kid and going back even further, Redwall and Deltoras Quest (though probably a bit too childish now) I wouldn't mind if it contained a bit of politics too, so long as it was fleshed out well.

>>11114974
>want to get into a genre
>first three picks are all series of more than 10 books
There's always more Tolkien, Unfinished Tales are really good. Dying Earth and Howard's Conan are also great stories from the dinosaur spectrum.

>read GRRMs short story Starlady
>for some reason read main character Hairy Hals lines in the voice of Tom Hardy
It's also the first time I experience something like this. Really strange feeling.

Just got these

>>11115073
Nothing wrong with that. He's got a nice voice.

>>11115082
Do you buy used books online or are they from a second hand store?

>>11114974
Try this.

>>11101680
I nominate Elric of Melniboné, the first Elric book.

>>11107890
>Everybody loves big chests
>Arifureta

The genre is simplistic but where authors go with it is pretty interesting. Like the ideas which could have been great novels if we weren't all cell phone addicts with no drive to succeed.

>tfw warlock of the magus world is over
>author of wotmw and wizard world isn't doing a third series of the same vein.
>never got to find out what was in the ghost graveyard or see leylin conquer a world of his own.

>>11114122
Perfect statement, given Baru is a Char.

>>11115509
>Arifureta
Why would you do this to an innocent anon? You might as well recommend The Eye of Argon while you're at it.

Just watched Annihilation
What the FUCK

I need to read the books now

>>11115165
Second hand store

>>11115720
the movie was decent but the ending was weird in a good way

>>11115509
Morningwood is really fun though. Just takes him forever to compile the ebooks for some reason, though to be fair he does rewrite done passages.
I kinda like some of the changes, and I hate to read stuff in my browser, so I guess I'm stuck waiting for book 3.

>>11115602
What's the deal?

>>11115720
Loved the books but haven't seen the movie yet. Loved how subtle and mysterious it starts.

>>11115727
Yeah pretty much everything from the lighthouse on was fantastic

>>11115720
The movie and book are completely different. More different than they are similar, in fact. That said, both are good in their own way.

>>11115730
I gave up halfway through the second book.
>Go to work
>People are weird
>Go home
>Go for a walk
>Go to work
>Call mom
>People are weird
>Area X is mysterious
>Go home
>Talk to cat
>Go to work
>Scientist lives here now?
>Black bitch is a bitch
>Call mom

GET ON WITH IT!

>>11115720
>>11115787
>Roadside Picnic -> Stalker -> S.T.A.L.K.E.R

The "spooky area called a zone" series smashed it across all three mediums, and was pretty much solved at this point. There was no more work needed, yet this fake-Dutch VanDerCunt decides to delve deeper into a mine long-exhausted. "Netflix-style release strategy" suck my DICK you balding CUNT the Stragatskies smashed it back in '81 now you want to do a shitty spin off with Padme from Stwars? Fuck yourself!!

>>11115848
The movie was great but I like the cut of your gib

>>11115540
But is Baru a grape?

Is the rest of the Sprawl Trilogy worth reading / as good as Neuromancer? Are the Sprawl books even connected plot-wise, or do they just share a setting?

Normally I'd buy Neuromancer first then the rest of the trilogy if I like it, but right now I have the option of either buying Neuromancer as a stand alone book, or the whole Sprawl Trilogy in a single volume (which costs a few more $$$), pic related

>>11116098
what's this about

>>11105048
Greg Egan (only counts if you actually understand the mathematics).

>>11116189
That's Kamen Rider Gaim, which in short is Power Rangers: Fruit Ninja written by Gen Urobuchi and featuring street dancer gangs fighting for turf by turning into fruit-themed warriors. And then around episode 14 it gets weird.

>>11114870
I'm about the same. I really enjoyed some of the books, like The Drawing of the Three and Wolves of the Calla. I liked the series enough that I'll probably read it again. Didn't bother watching the film because the trailers showed me enough to know that I probably wouldn't enjoy it.

>>11104895
Choke on a fucking dick

I just finished the series and the only reason i kept on going is too see how much shittier can it get.
And every time i thought it reached a new low it would somehow get even worse.
Easily the worst books i read i recent memory, in years.

>>11112269
Thanks for giving the title.

>>11116975
Clearly the Martian

>>11115082
Tombs of Atuan is one of the best fantasy books ever

is meg cowley good? I dont read fatnasy by female authors but her books on amazon have decent reviews

>>11115602
Haha, sure it's dreck but it can be a fun read if you let it.

I would also recommend "dungeon defense" and "yours and mine asylum", both lighter on the number crunching but regarding in their own way.

Also many times better than this >>11104895 crap.

>>11115787
the second book was basically unnecessary but i bet the publisher was like "let's make it a trilogy"

>>11116165
I thought Count Zero was great. I still liked Mona Lisa Overdrive but it was only good, not great. For his short stories, I highly recommend Burning Chrome and Dogfight.

>>11115082
I hope you've already read A Wizard of Earthsea?

>>11117823
> the second book was basically unnecessary but i bet the publisher was like "let's make it a trilogy"
I got that impression too. There was barely enough content for one book let alone two.

malazan

I don't understand the whole "litRPG" thing. I've played RPGs and read /sffg/ books, but how are they combined?

>>11118153
"total simulation with NPC's being accidentally self-aware"
or
"supernatural entity turned the real world into a video game"
or
"reincarnated in a video game world"

or other stuff along those lines

>>11118153
https://www.theverge.com/2016/5/28/11801040/have-you-heard-about-litrpg

>>11118162
>I've given up on childish fantasies of finding the One True Sword, or destroying the Ring of Power — those are myths. But video games are real.

>Bootsie was a robust woman, her chalk-fire hair pulled back in a tail, her lean hips and oversized bust filling a jumpsuit the way a sausage filled its casing---tight and appetizing.

>>11118178
This is actually a great quote. Killing Dark Lords and finding True Swords are the acts of culture heroes -- what fantasy expects us to buy as readers today. But who wants to be the hero of this sick culture? So the old school fantasy -- a freebooter, out for himself, a man measuring himself against the world. -- holds an appeal with which the endless succession of next hitlers can't compete.

>>11118153
basically its just normal fantasy but it invovles numbers and statistics. most are also on the more lighthearted side. litrpgs usually arent dark fantasies and most often than not everything turns out good, bad guy defeated and hero gets the girl.

>>11118234
Your timeline is completely backwards. Give me one example of a "freebooter, out for himself" type story older than something like Dunsany's "The Fortress Unvanquishable, Save for Sacnoth".

>>11118120
Don't read these 3 million words they don't say much

>>11117765
>female
She's a young adult author listing Paolini as a main influence, she could have a 25 cm flaccid dick, the testosterone levels of a bull shark and 2kg of chest hair and I would not touch her books.

>>11116165
Neuromancer wasn't originally meant to have a sequel and the second book is pretty stand alone too, but the third ties everything together. They're all pretty good.

THE TIME HAS COME AND SO HAVE I
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Nevernight (The Nevernight Chronicle) by Jay Kristoff
Should I continue reading?

>>11119631
its actually factual.
upon death all muscles relax as theres no more electricity running through them. for about an hour or so all your muscles are completely relaxed and then rigor mortis starts.

>>11116777
I didn't watch the film either. I suspect a lot of people who read the books saw the trailer and did the same thing.

>>11118160
sounds fucking stupid aye

>>11119631
Nevernight is pretty good
you'll get a fair share of /u/ in the second book

>>11118637

>>11119932
>/u/
No thanks.

>>11101622
dead souls lol!!! Hahaah!! Get it???

Just bought this. Is it any good?

>>11102166
Not that it's a problem, but what determines which books are banned for nomination?

>>11120079
Read and find out

>>11120079
It's amazing. Be ready to be confused by names, different aspects of gods and such things however. I found an unfinished dictionary online when I read it that really helped.

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>>11120443
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>>11120110
The ones that lost in last months poll.

>>11108064
I hope you will be able to stay a virgin until your wedding night.