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Hi /lit/. I recently acquired these two books. Should I read one before the other? Thanks for any info.

>> No.11091982

>>11091758
in that order

>> No.11092007

You should probably read Magick Without Tears first.

>> No.11093134

>>11091758
If these are your first works by Crowley, you're pretty screwed. You'll need the commentaries to understand the Book of the Law, and the Book of Lies is a very dense career-end summary of his work.

You can find the commentaries here:
https://hermetic.com/legis/index

>> No.11093342

>>11091758
Neither is an ideal starting point, but definitely Lies second--it's very obtuse and full of weird arcane jokes. I agree Magick Without Tears and maybe 777 first. If you're really new to the whole post-Golden-Dawn ceremonial magic stuff, I suggest A.E. Waite before Crowley, especially his White Magic, Black Magic, Ceremonial Magic, Key to the Tarot. Crowley was reworking a lot of the GD material. There are collected GD flying rolls (essays they used to trade around privately) and Regardie's big Golden Dawn book: both are great. It depends how much orientation you need.

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11094143

>being a spiritist
hahahaha

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>>11094143

>> No.11094222

>>11094204
Bro if you want spirituality just read Mystery of the Grail and Meditations on the Peaks. Otherwise you're just going to be an /x/ larper like that ape of thoth guy who comes here once in a while

>> No.11094259

>>11094222
Those numbers haunt me.
I've noticed - or rather, I am forced to see - that the occultism scene is all about control. Don't go there, go here instead! This is the truth, not the other ones!
Then I hear Alan Watts and his explanation on gurus. I despise his explanation of divine equality everywhere in a continuum. Though I cannot explain it away.

So let's go through this quickly. You are not a teacher, and I am not a student. Is there anything for you to give us from that book, to lure us in?

>> No.11094328

>>11094259
Alright, I'll state it quickly. Crowley is essentially the equivalent of pseud in /lit/ terms, he knew what he was doing was false and was making it up. Same with Blavatsky, who is even worse with that type of stuff.

For the book part, it is simple, there are metaphysics that must be applied first in order to get rid of any prejudices that the modern world as a whole leaves you with. Cyclical history, a lunar symbolism of spirituality that leads to a downfall of the Self, the hero who fails and the god who succeeds. Crowely just takes this symbolism, doesn't understand it, and mishmashes it here and there.

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>>11094328
Mm'kay.

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>>11094347
see you, have fun fetshising magic

>> No.11094403

The Golden Bough is essential reading for anyone serious about Anglo esoteric thought. Crowley is the product of anglo-israelism

>> No.11094514

>>11094328
>>11094384
I think I understand, as I've been a pseud of the worst kind. I'll add it to my backlog.

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>>11094514
Forgot to say my thanks.

>> No.11094532

>>11094520
Stop looking for masters, idiot. You're still a pseud of the worst kind.

>> No.11094569

pseud is such a shitty meme lol

>> No.11094648

>>11094532
I'm not looking for masters, I'm looking for bait to go after.

>> No.11094664

>>11094569
So I hear the earth is flat.