/lit/ - Literature

>>11065411
We're redpilled traditionalists here, sweetheart. We're virtuous and against most of those things on account of them being degenerate

>>11065428
Back to the Romans.

>>11065428
>not riding the tiger with Dyonisian orgies

>>11065442
>>11065437
Try Kevin McDonald's Culture of Critique and Schopenhauer's On Women if you want the truth

>>11065411
Got to Mass on Sunday. You sound like you need Jesus before it's too late

>>11065411
>a people develop a pantheon made up of different aspects of the ultimate divine
>millennia later obnoxious pseud and self-described 'party animal' picks out a singular aspect and hails it as the all encompassing GOD

As above so below. You can't pick the god of wine without getting the god of hangover you fucking idiot.

>>11065411
>Implying that Dionysus worshipers have knowledge about love.

>>11065454
>You can't pick the god of wine without getting the god of hangover

>>11065454
>getting hangovers
lmao @ this pussy

>>11065511
What is this supposed to mean?
>>11065515
>being a teenager

>>11065454
>You can't pick the god of wine without getting the god of hangover
What is moderation?

>>11065451
jesus is a rip off of dionysus

dionysus against the crucified
for all eternity

>>11065632
One really be moderately moderate.

>>11065451
I read this right after you posted this brother. Mmm Yes, women, degenerate, I understand now! I bet the Jew is behind this! Yes brother, the fire rises! White power!

>>11065411
I remember reading that priests of that cult were castrated males that dress like females

>>11065632
>Bacchanalias are moderated

the only true greek god is Morpheus

>>11065428
>>11065451
Apollo was a mistake

>>11065455
They don't need knowledge of it when they are it in its purest form.

>>11065411
I recommend everyone actually interested in the Dyonisian and the Apollonian to read Colli's work, specifically The birth of philosophy and Dyonisian and Apollonian (they're only available in spanish, french and german as well as the original Italian though, sorry anglos)

>>11065411
yes, so many good decisions are made when drinking

>>11067211
They only become bad after you become sober.

>>11065657
Satan is a ripoff of Dionysus. Christians built their inimical figure using Pagan gods with traits they despised.

>>11067231
Why does both Dionysus and Jesus make wine then? Or have connections to light? Jesus is a Luciferian figure as is Dionysus.

>>11065455
>Dionysus worshipers have knowledge

Intelligence and sensitivity are below Dionysus

thats why the christians ripped off dionysus for their god

>>11067231
>Satan is a ripoff of Dionysus.

brainletttt

Dionysus is also the father of tragedy, as the ancient Greek theatrical plays were inspired by rituals for him

Op is not wrong.
Dionysos is like the one guy, that always does something crazy, strange or absurd, and something good or bad ensues from it.
Apollo is the guy that never does anything new, has strict routine and never goes outside any formula.

>>11067369
t. virgin cambridge ritualist

>>11066087
sounds quite dionysian

>>11065511
dionysos wore an amethyst for hangover-protection

>>11066087
No. That's another, non-European cult that became fashionable in late Rome.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galli

daily reminder to go raving at least once a year

and by raving i mean 3 4 days in a row, u pussies

>mfw all those epiphanies

>>11065454
>the ultimate divine
fuck off revisionist judeonigger

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>>11068384
that's a nice image. Mind if I save it?

>>11068538
save it, it's all yours my friend!

>>11068384
That's a nice photo.

>>11065411
meh gods are too OP. makes for dull stories and scant character development.

Daemons on the other hand...

>>11068384
undergrounds raves are the closets thing to the dionysian mysteries

"Following the torches as they dipped and swayed in the darkness, they climbed mountain paths with head thrown back and eyes glazed, dancing to the beat of the drum which stirred their blood' [or 'staggered drunkenly with what was known as the Dionysus gait']. 'In this state of ekstasis or enthusiasmos, they abandoned themselves, dancing wildly and shouting 'Euoi!' [the god's name] and at that moment of intense rapture became identified with the god himself. They became filled with his spirit and acquired divine powers."

>>11065411
Dionysus means more than just revelry you profane coward

>tfw your not a member of an esoteric orphic society with ecstatic rituals praising human emotion

>>11069685
yeah, actually

>>11065454
Jesus Christ, man up

>>11069816
orphics and dionysians aren’t the same and neither are the eleusinians, they’re all distinct and the bacchic cult is distinct from
the dionysian rites

>>11069908
Please enlighten me of the differences between orphic and dionysian mysteries because I thought they where largely lost.

>>11065411
dubs ignored. Judean Apollo and the Logos, not fat winos and hobos ok. praise Jesus.

>>11065411
>degeneracy: the thread

>>11065411
he is telluric, why worship him? Completely lunar

Yeah and the god of going mad and slaughtering everyone. Athena is best god

>>11070702
Yes. Let us all worship Pallas.

>>11070719
NO.

>>11070662
>le degeneracy
fuck off jew slave, go back to worship the crucified

>>11070750
>go back to worship the crucified
all day every day.

Just be a Rosicrucian like all modern larpers or be a brosatru faggot. Not hard

I too love ses

>>11070695
>he is telluric, why worship him?
Because he is "telluric." Heaven is a farce. The telluric is heavenly to the strong.

>>11065411
>god of normalfags

Can we revive the worship of the Greek pantheon?

>>11070992
Only the wisest and stupidest of men never change. They will appear the same to both the stupid and the average, while the wise can distinguish them.

>>11070762
>this much larping

>>11065411
>art
wrong. He was the god of partying in general

>>11071043
Are you a wise man, anon?

>>11071239
i'm just a poor sinner, anon. not a worldly wiseman like you. forgive me.

>>11070702
>>11070719
faggots. Apollo is the only god

>>11071270
I'm an average man with the occasional dream of wisdom.

>>11065411
The followers of the Eluesinian mysteries were ascetic vegetarians who refrained from sex and wine. They were more similar to Hindu holy men then party animals. They probably never had orgies and that was just propaganda made up because the mystery cults promoted equality between classes and gender.

>>11065411
he sounds like a shitty leftist

>>11071606
wtf I love communism now

>>11065411
What is shiva. For 200.

>>11065411
>not worshipping the numberless offspring of Chaos and Old Night
Not gonna make it.

Hedonism is vapid.

ITT: Anti-social virgins think they're special and morally superior, but are only that way because they don't go out and have a good time with friends

>>11065411
What's on his head? It's creeping me out

>>11071920
t. the projecting subject

>>11069685
source? i'm only getting a bunch of books that quote this

>>11071930
fungi
oh these cheeky bois

he shouts at frogs tho

>>11065411
His Father was pretty based in a not so subtle way. I want picrelated in my library, to make an altar. Strangely enough, it's Etruscan. They sell copies for less than 50 bucks.

>>11071893
As if self deification isn't the only answer.

>>11065451
>implying Jesus didn't get lit with the lepers

besides dionysus: myth and cult and the bacchae what others works should i read in order to understand better dionysus and the dionysians mysteries?

>>11065449

Wow is this /lit/? I thought this place was a marxist cesspit.

>>11069957
Dionysian mysteries are communal and sensual, had esoteric elements, center around the mystery of the grape vine and wine; Orphic rites are heavily oriented towards rebirth and immortality, orpheus is the epynonymous founder, made up their own cosmology involving Dionysus in later stages, extremely esoteric, female priestarchy and would kill people for revealing secrets, varying degrees of sensuality, became more abstract with time; eleusinian, ancient cult of demeter, austere, at first no sensuality, wine is drunk in somber contemplation w/hallucinogen, private-public, inner and outer circles, also oath of secrecy, centered around harvest and divine child narrative, persephone and demeter are the center of the cult. They’re the same type of cults but the bacchic and dionysian mysteries are comparatively late and were much more festive and open to the public, probably taken much less seriously and involved orgiastic ecstatic psychosis. Orphics were precurors to hermeticists as were eleusinians and were pre-dorian in origin. Also the earlier cults were matriarchal and obviously austere by comparison, not that ritual temple prostitution and imbibing of bodily fluids wasn’t involved, there are rumors the eleusinians drank blood and sacrificed young men or children, but it was not of the same type of religious society as the later cults. Dionysian mysteries are much more plebeian, and bacchic cults were basically secret societies for elites and spy-black mail rings.

>>11071893
What is an IQ realist? Or better yet; what isn't?

>Romans get drunk constantly
>give all kinds of shit to Wine Dude
>weird

>>11066087
hot

>>11071920
No. Ecstasy, sex and alcohol are a downward spiral that not only causes, but celebrates the loss of competence, ability, responsibility, power, sapience and sentience. It reduces lifespan and the time you get to experience life, but advertises the opposite. Though I admit I had plenty of good times, the effect of living like this has been detrimental, not only for me but for everybody involved.

It isn't a valid way of life, nor is it harmless fun. It's risky fun, and that's all there is to it.

>>11075006
>sex not only causes but celebrates the loss of competence, ability, responsibility, power, sapience and sentience.
What was meant by this

>>11065411
i have 'tism

>>11065411
Lack of order or rationale?

>>11074883
Lit is really mixed these days

>>11065428
Dionysus is together with apollon the god of the mysteries
Orpheus was either a supporter of Dionysus and dies because it gets out of control or is a supporter of Apollo and dies because he denies participating in the life of Dionysus - really look into the stories about Dionysus,it's really a thorough explanation of how to deal with desire, fx. they really get into the truth that comes forth in both the teachings of Gautama and Aristotle namely the golden mean.

>>11074835
join the royal order of jesters

>>11075006
You have no idea what anything Dionysian stands for and haven't read a damn thing on any of it, have you?

>>11065411
>ses