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Is this big boy worth the money?
I'm drawn to a complete volume. Are there any cheaper ones out there?

>> No.11065052

>>11065038
If you have an e-reader, you can get it from b-ok for free.

It's the best value for money if you want a physical copy.

>> No.11065076

>>11065038

Yes it is. Or, you know, you could just the same amount of money over two or three readers and get a quarter of the material (republic, some general reader, trial/deathSocrates).

There isn't even any such thing, other than this book, which lays robust claim to being a complete volume. Even the Stephanus pagination itself is 1: not a single volume, but three, and 2: is missing the (admittedly spurious) Halcyon, which is still a very nice little story with a genuinely interesting moral and properly philosophical idea, regardless of authorship or historical authenticity.

>> No.11065087

>>11065076
What are you implying the Hackett edition doesn't include? Because it does have Halcyon...

>> No.11065099

I've got it and I've read most of it. Pretty good translations, and it includes a lot of dialogues that are difficult to find in other compilations. I recommend it.

>> No.11065107

i heard people complaining about tiny print but I got it in the mail a few days ago and it is perfectly readable.

great book, certainly the one I would take if I could only take one to a tropical island or something

>> No.11065109

>>11065087
reading comprehension

>> No.11065121

where do I go to buy Plato in the original greek?
Likewise, other greek writers (Mainly interested in Aristophanes and Plotinus)?

>> No.11065127

>>11065038
Its worth it. Its fucking Plato

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>>11065121
LOEB

>> No.11065156

>>11065134
>LOEB
thanks lad

>> No.11065252

I found it secondhand for $10 so if you're not too good for used books

>> No.11065385

>>11065121
Nowhere. Theres no “original greek” from plato’s works

>> No.11065815

>>11065038
This is the only complete volume. For that alone, it's good. Ignore the complaints about tiny print, it's perfectly legible. The pages however, are absolute shit. They feel like off brand one-ply toilet paper.

If you're a rich man, Easton Press released this text as a four volume set.

>> No.11065843

>>11065038
I doubt you'd want to read all his works unless you're heavily interested in philosophy. If you are starring with the greeks you're better off reading the last days of Socrates, the gorgias, symposium, phaedro, and the republic then see from there what to do next

>> No.11065958

I've read it cover-to-cover, and i have to say that i found the translations better than the free jowett translations. The dust cover is shit but the actual hardcover is a nice clothbound. and as >>11065815 says, it uses very thin, bible tier paper. If you want to read all of Plato, then there really isn't a better version in the price range.

>> No.11065961

>>11065815
>They feel like off brand one-ply toilet paper.
Well gee, for someone who says people should stop complaining about tiny print, how else are they going to fit all the works of Plato, including spurious ones, in one single volume without using bible paper?

>> No.11065973

someone link up us the epub

>> No.11066625

>>11065038
Literally just google complete works of Plato pdf

>> No.11067576

broke: is it worth the money?
woke: is it worth the time?

>> No.11068579

>>11065038
Best /lit/ purchase I have ever made. Plato changed my life. Do it OP.

>> No.11068663

>>11065973
Read the sticky

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>>11065038
There's one edited by Edith Hamilton (the mythology chica) and Huntington Cairns, for the Bollingen Press. The paper is thin, and the translations are dated — but in some areas, more accurate than the Hackett translations (the Symposium leaps to mind).

Generally, the Hackett translations do a better job at making the more WTF-passages (such as Parmenides) comprehensible, but the Bollingen translations are more faithful to the letter of the Greek. If you want EZ-Plato, buy the Hackett. If you're a more autistic scholar, get Bollingen.