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Whatever happened to the Fisher account anyway?

Was he a pretty sick guy?

In the movie, yes. In the book, no

idk

>>11061699
Nice. Impressive.

>>11061699
have a dog. A little chow or something

>>11061699

>>11061699
fantastic

lit thread

objectively he did , dont be a brainlet

>>11061949
he had sex with them, he was a fag, he jacked off the black guy in the alley and he face fucked the guy with the style section

Does it matter? Bateman in the end was still unnoticed and unloved wether he did it or not.

>>11061697
Backwards. He absolutely did the murders in the book. In the movie, it's unclear.

>>11061640
Yes, or the entire novel falls apart. Not in a clever way, just a "that makes no sense at all" way. Here's the usual "no" arguments, with responses.
1. The police and people around him don't react the way they should: nobody's terrified or cares.

That's the entire damn point of the book! It's not proof that Bateman isn't a killer: in fact, if he is imagining the killings, the behaviour of others loses all meaning entirely. Also, several people ARE interested/worried about the killings, from Bateman's fiancée after he's beheaded her neighbour, to Detective Kimball, Abdullah the cab driver, the lady realtor selling Paul Owen's condo, the bum Al that Bateman blinds and meets again later, etc., etc. Bateman's business colleagues are the only ones who really don't care about other people having died, and that's because they care about nothing but themselves.

2. Every now and then Bateman (especially late in the book) says something impossible happened (a park bench follows me home, an automatic teller asks me to feed it a stray cat, etc). Therefore we can't trust anything he says at all.
Bateman himself often refers to his grasp on sanity slipping, but there's a difference between a narrator who is unreliable for a few lines and one who is lying throughout half the book.
Besides that, if we accept the idea that Bateman isn't killing anyone, we also have to decide that the encounters with the real estate agent (who makes it clear she suspects him of something and tells him not to come back), the taxi driver (who tells him his face is on a wanted poster for killing a cabbie, and robs him), and the detective investigating the death of Paul Owen, never happen. Any of them.
This approaches idiocy: suddenly we're defending a hypothesis that makes most of the novel into meaningless lies that just happen to be mostly cohesive.

3. (The dumbest of all) The car/police chase scene is too unrealistic, so it must have been imagined.
THIS IS A NOVEL. The cops can be as good or bad as Ellis wants. Just as the Enterprise moves "at the speed of plot," the story calls for Bateman to escape so he can leave that confession on his lawyer's answering machine. Incidentally, if the chase never happens, how has the lawyer heard that confession when Bateman confronts him later? Or is that yet another scene that's all in Bateman's head?

I've read this novel backwards and forwards a few times now, taking notes all the way, and I have no idea what the hell possesses anyone to argue that Bateman is imagining it all, except it must make them feel better about the events. It is tempting to see the persistence of this idea that Bateman is not a killer as a desperate attempt to avoid dealing with the acts: particularly ironic because it reflects the head-in-the-sand attitude of the other characters in the novel, and because it makes no particular difference whether a fictional character is murdering people in his dreams or not.

>>11061699
Is this movie any good? I feel like I should watch it just to appreciate the memes

>>11061640
Some of them.

>>11062159
its a masterpiece, you will never understand misogyny, elite anomie or handsome psychopathy/shatriya logic inside a concrete thunderdome, w/absolutely no goals or social constraints) if you don’t read the book and watch the movie

>>11062159
bro u chill on 4chan and u never seen american psycho? what the fuck? it takes what ten minutes to torrent or two clicks to buy on itunes, and then maybe two hours to watch, fucking watch it, super classic

>>11062159
Yeah it’s great

>>11062217
Alright, you’ve convinced me. That can be my leasure time for tonight
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>>11062048
The cop chase didn't happen. He is imagining that while having a mental breakdown. He confesses delirious to his lawyer but tha chase didn't happen because as you very well argumentated if it had happen there'd be repercussions and we don't hear or read anything related to it afterwards. Furthermore it's the only part in the book where the narrator becomes third person. Maybe he was watching an action movie and insertedhinself in or he was just trembling in the ground having a psychotic breakdown.

>>11062159
It's such a good movie in fact that it's appeal is practically infinite. Basically it can be loved by both the casual viewer and the kind that watches Satantango religiously or something

>>11062363
Brilliant, I'm looking forward to it

>>11061699
frigg

>>11062384
unfortunate that you chose to download it illegally merely two days after the fbi downloaded the entire 4chan database. Good luck to you, friend.

>>11062484
o fug

>>11062484
To be fair the Blu Ray release is defective

Most likely, but the killings itself don't matter. It the fact that no one gives a shit about them is whats important

>>11061640
It was all just a fever dream

>>11062384
>1080p
>1.3 GB

kys yourself yify faggot

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>>11061699
nice

>>11061699
impressive