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Why does studdy of occult, and esoteric thought increase the ability to write?

>> No.11040657

Placebo

>> No.11040665

>>11040657
No, it's definitely not.
I understand studying and text will wear on the mind, and you'll be able to play with word by virtue of being surrounded by it more.

But there seems to be something more intrinsic about hidden knowledge.

>> No.11040666

>>11040657
More like confirmation bias...

BUT reading some good esotericism is actually very good for developing your own thought processes. You start to see patterns in intellectual thinking that help you frame your writing

>> No.11040674

>>11040649
never met an occultard that could write well as they're usually midwitted imbeciles
the only example I can think of is strindberg

>> No.11040678

For the same reason that Aristotle said that whoever studies metaphysics, the root of all wisdom, knows everything else. Once you know the universal principles everything else is just a matter of filling in the blanks.

>> No.11040680

>>11040666
>>11040674
Even Shakespeare played with esoteric ideas.


How are you guys so blind and dense

>> No.11040755

>>11040680
He didn't

>> No.11041616

>>11040755
cf. Charles Nichol's The Chemical Theater (on esoteric symbolism, ideas in King Lear).

>> No.11041623

>>11040649
Aids your senses, opens your mind

>> No.11041629

More bullshit to write about

>> No.11041636

>>11040649
Ideas flow in minds without barriers.

>> No.11042462

>>11040680

read The Tempest

>> No.11042478

>>11040755
Lol, read Frances Yates.

>>11040666
This. Also nice Satanic trips.

>>11040674
Shakespeare as that guy already mentioned, Pynchon, Burroughs, Dante, Joyce, Goethe, Hegel.

>> No.11042490

>>11042478
>Dante
What?
>Hegel
The epitome of bad writer, also wrong.
>Joyce
Prove it
>Pynchon, Burroughs, Goethe
don't know about these

>> No.11042497

>>11042490
You're an idiot.

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>>11040649
Thick loads of questioning burst agency's womb to conceive that child.

>> No.11042540

>>11042497
not an argument you occultard

>> No.11042620

>>11042540
>occultard
Doesn't have a meaning, nor substance

>> No.11042625

>>11042532
Is this true?

>> No.11042627

>>11042620
Neither does your mind

>> No.11042631

give me a quick rundown on hermeticism

>> No.11042632

>>11042490
Everyone knows Goethe did

>> No.11042634

>>11042627
Damn you got me.

>> No.11042641

>>11042631
>tldr
Its intro to mysticism, a way to come to theosophy

>> No.11042645

>>11042634
xD

>> No.11042652

Only practice at writing will improve your ability to write. There's no short cuts. The fact you are looking for short cuts indicates you probably do not have the necessary dedication to ever be good at writing.

>> No.11042694

>>11042652
You completely misinterpret OP.

>> No.11042843

>>11042490
Dante — influenced by reading of esoteric Sufi and Neoplatonic works, noted similarities in Divine Comedy to Freemasonry and Rosicrucian symbology and ideas
>Joyce
Hermetic, Masonic, and Theosophical references in Ulysses and Finnegans Wake
>Pynchon
References to Kabbalah, Tarot, rosicrucianism and masonry and hermeticism in his works
>Goethe
References to Masonry, Mithraism, was himself a Freemason, to Hermetic and alchemical ideas in Faust and even in his novel Elective Affinities. He immersed himself in occult literature and Paracelsus to write Faust.

>> No.11042964

>>11040649

Occultism is largely just wordplay
Also, smart people are attracted to the obscure and novel

>> No.11043585

>>11042490
Borroughs did lectures on the occult.

>> No.11043656

what should I read then if reading esoteric thought is useful

>> No.11043680

>>11042843
How do I become a freemason Mithraist?

>> No.11043690

>>11043680
You don't want to. Some old dude approached me about becoming a freemason once. shit was creepy.
Although now that I think about it, the orgies would have been cool.

>> No.11043695

>>11043656
Ramsey Dukes - Thundersqueak
Peter Carroll - Liber Null & Psychonaut
Phil Hin - Oven-Ready Chaos
Kenneth Grant - The Magickal Revival
Aleister Crowley - Liber ABA, Magick Without Tears
Austin Osman Spare - The Book Of Pleasure, Zos Speaks!
Gordon White - Star.Ships, Chaos Protocols

>> No.11043717

>>11043695
this is all new shit - start with the greeks

>> No.11043736

>>11043656
The holy books of old religions are usually pretty good. Most of them go into the idea of thought itself which gets pretty radical

>> No.11043737

>>11043690
>orgies would have been cool.
lemonparty.jpg

>> No.11043760

>>11043656
>>11024622
>>11024626

>> No.11043775

>>11040649
It doesn't.

>> No.11045088

>>11042462
I am torn about reading the Tempest or watching the movie. I know what you are thinking, but I want to enjoy reading Shakespeare but his language is too alien.

>> No.11045094

Because occult/esoteric writing engages the abstract and imaginative parts of your brain, the same parts that are called upon for writing.

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>>11040674
hmm

>> No.11045815

>>11040649
>why does reading new and strange perspectives make you think of new and strange things

>> No.11045819

>>11042634
>responding to that retard

>> No.11045920

>>11045819
:( sorry desu