/lit/ - Literature

>>11033568
haha anime

>>11033568
It's post-ironic irony that has ironically lost its sense of irony.

It literally just means "not ironic". It's a natural reaction to posts here becoming increasingly ironic over the years to the point where it's assumed that the author is not being serious.

For example I have no idea if this is a bait thread or not. In fact I'd posit that it's undecidable.

It means "ironic". It's another form of irony: irony being conscious of its own irony.

>“Irony and cynicism were just what the U.S. hypocrisy of the fifties and sixties called for. That’s what made the early postmodernists great artists. The great thing about irony is that it splits things apart, gets up above them so we can see the flaws and hypocrisies and duplicates. The virtuous always triumph? Ward Cleaver is the prototypical fifties father? "Sure." Sarcasm, parody, absurdism and irony are great ways to strip off stuff’s mask and show the unpleasant reality behind it. The problem is that once the rules of art are debunked, and once the unpleasant realities the irony diagnoses are revealed and diagnosed, "then" what do we do? Irony’s useful for debunking illusions, but most of the illusion-debunking in the U.S. has now been done and redone. Once everybody knows that equality of opportunity is bunk and Mike Brady’s bunk and Just Say No is bunk, now what do we do? All we seem to want to do is keep ridiculing the stuff. Postmodern irony and cynicism’s become an end in itself, a measure of hip sophistication and literary savvy. Few artists dare to try to talk about ways of working toward redeeming what’s wrong, because they’ll look sentimental and naive to all the weary ironists. Irony’s gone from liberating to enslaving. There’s some great essay somewhere that has a line about irony being the song of the prisoner who’s come to love his cage.” - My Dad

>>11033568
Doing things ironically is a pretty old meme, +10 years. You say you did something ironically when you are ashamed of doing it or feel you will face reprehension from your peers.

>>11033568
I consider myself an unironic fan of Alex Jones because I'm well aware of his absurdity, but I still seriously agree with him on several important issues.

Even though I love to rip into this madman, I deliberately wish to state I actually like his content.

Like that OP, its like a variant of 'but in all seriousness'

>>11033621
Unironically this

>>11033621
The self is a relation which relates itself to its own self, or it is that in the relation that the relation relates itself to its own self; the self is not the relation but that the relation relates itself to its own self.

>>11034094
This but unironically

It indicates the ironic indeterminacy of 4chan posting. While on the surface used to demonstrate the genuine sincerity of a poster against the perceived ironic nature of imageboard dialogue, it is in principle impossible to determine the ironic content of a proposition. "Unironically" has become another term which is subsumed under irony.

>>11033568
Its just a joke about the absurdity of ironic humour

So a user will say something like really banal like
"I like Seinfeld"
and another user will respond and say
"this but unironically"

Because who would hate seinfeld :)

>Immediate experience
Naive sincerity
>Abstract
Initial irony
>Negative
Self-conscious cynical irony
>Concrete
Post-ironic self-consciousness reflecting on its own development, systematic sincerity which has sublated irony.

>>11036000
good

>>11035989
I don’t care for Seinfeld. The show espouses a certain materialistic philosophy like Friends

>>11036056
True true, I prefer the ascetic comedies myself, like Rick and Morty

>>11033621
Is there a difference between post-irony and post-ironic irony?

>>11036056
this but unironically

>>11036108
Probably we just can’t tell

>>11033621
This but ironically

>this.
>but unironically.
Always mean you actually disagree.
Other times you have to deduce and learn whether they ironically believe something or unironically actually believe in something.
>I, unironically, like X
>I unironically like X
(He ironically unironically likes X)

But it's always ironic that they do (whether negative or positive).