/lit/ - Literature

>>11009252
N. was right, God died. But He resurrected three days later

>>11009252
post catholic qts

>>11009252
humanity isn't going to end
the school of philosophic realist-extinctionists are all just projecting their own internal disintegration due to the lack of being to any higher principle that transcends the mere human or individual into the entirety of existence. a breed of well trained, resentful, and blind thinkers are currently being enamored by all the attention they are receiving by proclaiming that humanity is going to have to pass away due to the fact that it is not some metaphysical center of Life but instead only another 'x' among the formula of a mechanic and material world. they are wrong, and they will fail

Humanity is just taking its first steps with a brand new adversary: (modern)technology. I believe they will prove up to the task of rejecting the temptation to submit themselves to this new technique and impoverished mode of being and instead grapple once more with the Divine elements of life. This is not just "religious" thought, but many thinkers stemming from the German Romantics all the way into the 20th Century were profoundly certain of a reaffirmation of Humanity's divine aspects that those enslaved by the more subpersonal responses to the most mediocre of sensory input.

We will discover God again, waiting for us, after our long, prodigal journey through the sties of machinic sterility and the perversity of putting his creation into our arbitrary modes of articulation, and He will rejoice even more to see us return than if we had simply stayed.
In the mean time, we must cultivate ourselves personally, because everything (societies, cities, the predominant ideas of the age) stems from the individual and the world at large is always only a reflection of the state of the average individual. Keep the light lit, and don't listen to the defeatists, they're sermons only appeal to likeminded (as do ours)

>>11009252
The second coming is coming.

>>11009252
Nietzsche is dead
-God

>>11009252
Atheism is declining demographically, more religious people have much more kids.
The future of the world is much more religious than its current state, particularly much more African.

>>11009252
Christianity is not a relic of the past but a Light from the future. As soon as we remember this, the church will regrow

>>11009252
As the world reaches western levels of wealth religion will disappear there as well. If China gets to dominate the world and impose atheism then we can expect religion to resurrect when China inevitably crumbles.

>>11009252
The naive religiousness of the pre-modern era is gone for good, self-aware religiousness as an escape from modern emptiness will continue and grow as long as modernity lasts.

>>11009252
Yes
No
Well if Islam kills all infidels maybe but on an intellectual level it is gone

>>11009294
that is a child, nerd.

>>11009294
She was an altar girl in my church

>>11009499
Might post more if interested

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>>11009499
uh bruh it's kind of creepy you keep posting her here. what would she think if she found out? stop being a degenerate fatty with no gf and learn to RESPECT *clap* WOMEN *clap*.

>>11009501
>>11009499
dont be a creep

>God is dea-
Not so fast, Bucko!

>>11009499
She was a cock slave at my swingers get-together

>>11009522
cringe

>>11009342
Christianity spreads faster when it's suppressed. Case in point, China.

>>11009501
More

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>>11009252
Young Americans in particular are not even irreligious, most are just """spiritual""" and trying to find some sort of role model who is both heroic and strong against his adversaries and willing to sacrifice himself for the greater good, a perfect mix of compassion and power. But of course >muh church is evil and held back society
so you're going to have to give them time

>>11009252
ITT : faggots that think Nietzsche was the first to proclaim God is dead. Typical.

>>11009647
>muh church is evil
It really is

>>11009647
Oh, man, I hate """spiritual""" people so much. There's no such thing as spirituality without rituals.

>>11009682

A human being is spirit. But what is spirit? Spirit is the self. But what is the self? The self is a relation that relates itself to itself or is the relation's relating itself to itself in the relation; the self is not the relation but is the relation's relating itself to itself. A human being is a synthesis of the infinite and the finite, of the temporal and the eternal, of freedom and necessity, in short, a synthesis. A synthesis is a relation between two. Considered in this way a human being is still not a self.... In the relation between two, the relation is the third as a negative unity, and the two relate to the relation and in the relation to the relation; thus under the qualification of the psychical the relation between the psychical and the physical is a relation. If, however, the relation relates itself to itself, this relation is the positive third, and this is the self.

>>11009682
>>11009647
plebs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzCpq3uwlrc

>>11009689
holy....

>>11009252
Look at your image and tell me God is dead mate. I was in a Catholic Church in December, the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. There was a young woman there wearing a mantilla like that, and you could tell by her eyes that not only was she a virgin, but she had likely never even thought about it. Not that every woman that puts on a mantilla is like that, but she certainly was. You can't look into such a girl's eyes (she won't look back because she's too pure) and think God is dead without being a retard. The only greater evidence of God's existence might be a whore coming out of the confessional with pure eyes.

>>11009689
Based Kierkegaard always makes me laugh. Honestly the most high level humour I've ever come across.

>>11009252
You tell me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvACmJij0BY

>>11009706

This is the kind of guy women avoid because he will try to enforce a position where she can never make any mistakes and has to appear absolutely perfect in every way, all the time. This is also the kind of person who killed God

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>>11009731
Did you miss the last sentence? I don't look down on women or expect them to be pure, especially not in our age. I just admire purity when it's present. Purity isn't the most important thing. Actually what was more admirable in this girl was her obviously humble / kind nature.

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>>11009706
so... you talked to her?

>>11009749
I don't have a chance with this even if I go back to church, do I?

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>>11009749
>>11009741
>>11009734
stop

>>11009763
No and I had no desire to. She was praying, and I'm interested in someone else.

>>11009706
>god not dead because female look good

>>11009768
800 Instagram followers

I like how all you assert christianity as the default position because your political traditionalists thinking you can travel into 18th century europe by turning your brain off.

The bible is an exceptionally poor claim to divine scriptire. If a real spiritual (ie not merely cultural) theist revival is to happen it will be Hindu

>>11009689
is he making fun of Hegel?

>>11009805
What are they gonna do, phone bank their way to God?

>>11009706
100% AGREE. If God does not exist why would young females portray virtues desired by males?

>>11009739
you wouldnt feel those things towards a young man neither will a woman have those feelings towards another young woman. Your feelings are wrong.

>>11009666
go on then Satan, list one philosopher who stated the same, earlier, with such scope, depth, and impact

BE GOOD

>>11009815
he's literally quoting Kierkegaard.

>>11009827
I know.

>>11009822
Hegel said it before Neitzsche and it was in Vogue at the time, retard

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>>11009818
>God is dead = God does not exist
when will plebs leave?

>>11009815
yes

>>11009844
The post explicitely affirms gods existence you braindead wikifag

>>11009682
That may be true, but the rituals do not really need to come from any sort of central authority.

>>11009844
whomst are you quoting

>>11009879
**whomst've'st

>>11009821
>you wouldnt feel those things towards a young man
Not true though. I admire the purity of children. It's not a sexual thing. I would admire a young man that was obviously very chaste, and not because that would make him sexually attractive to me. I felt no special attraction to this girl I was describing. She did happen to be pretty, but the fact of her being so genuinely pure cancelled any impure thought I might have had in my mind - that's why purity is so admirable, it spreads itself.

>>11009818
Like above, it's not a matter of desire. I didn't desire this woman. Purity makes people happier. People get a stained conscience from being sexually impure (that's why they call it "filth", "dirty-mindedness", etc.) Women especially feel guilty about it. It upsets me when women lie to themselves and pretend that virginity doesn't matter at all, or that it doesn't matter at all how many men they've been with. Not because I want them to feel guilty for being impure, but because I can tell that they're lying to themselves and it makes them inwardly miserable. It makes me feel sad for them. This is actually one of the great beauties of Catholicism. It acknowledges the beauty of purity, but it doesn't hold it above people's heads as a thing to judge people or beat them up over it. The world's worst prostitute can walk out of a confessional just as pure as any virgin, if her confession is sincere. I've always had a special love for St. Mary Magdalene, because I think her conversion reveals something deep about a woman's nature - a woman can't be happy as long as her conscience is stained with impurity, but love is a greater virtue than purity. I know some women are not pure because of love and because men mistreat them and abuse their devoted / submissive nature. I especially do not look down on these women.

>>11009252
I want to marry that girl.

>>11009914
>I would admire a young man that was obviously very chaste, and not because that would make him sexually attractive to me
>He isn't a homosexual
Good God who let all these plebs in

God's fine, saw him on a bus yesterday. Talked about weather and stuff.

>>11009914
>I didn't desire this woman. Purity makes people happier.
First off yes you did. Second that's not the point. That loyalty and the other components you call purity are a positive is sufficiently explained by our biology. In fact better than by catholicism where you have women go to clubs on saturday and confession on sunday.
This isn't an argument for any religion not to mention that all religions celebrate purity. This is just you pushing through because it feels nice

>>11009928
Nah, the kind of purity she had cannot be sufficiently explained by biology. It's a supernatural purity. Bad Catholic girls who do one thing Saturday night, and another thing Sunday morning - that's one thing, but this girl obviously did not belong to the category. She's more in the "become a nun or marry young and have 9 kids" category.

>>11009948
>Nah, the kind of purity she had cannot be sufficiently explained by biology.
Yes it can. Perfectly. There are nonreligious women like this and religious women not like this. There are nonreligious men (like you) who admire it and there are religious people that don't. this is clearly not the determining factor AND a worse explanation model than biology.

>>11009961
God's grace is not confined only within the walls of the Catholic Church (though that happens to be where it's most abundant). If there are "non-religious women" with this kind of purity, it's because in their hearts they are in some way pleasing to God. Again, this is a supernatural purity. It's above the purity that children naturally have. It is visibly angelic.

>>11009974
I don't even know what to say to this cringe.
You obviously know you don't believe this yourself so replying is redundant anyway I guess.
Keep larping friend. As someone who lives in a catholic area I can guarantee you 20 something virgin autists expecting to stroll into a church once and charme virgin cuties are all the rage.

>>11010010
I was there to pray. I had no intention of meeting anyone, I just happened to see her. The girl I'm interested in is not Catholic and not a super-pure angel. I keep insisting it's not a sexual thing, it's a spiritual thing really. Think of the "purity" of Buddha - you know, a spiritual purity, something that shines in their face.

>>11009916
Same. Sadly she's already married and have a daughter.

I want backworldsmen off my board. What led you holy rollers into a Malaysian underwater basket weaving site anyway? Also, this thread isn't even about books, take it to /his/

>>11009706
I can't even measure the level of self-delusion in this post. Your mantilla girl masturbates with a shampoo bottle while sucking the family dog's dick, OP, and that's just fine. Forget "purity."

>>11010038
She unironically has 8 kids.

>>11010062
>Your board
Want in one hand and shit in the other

>>11009914
>a woman can't be happy as long as her conscience is stained with impurity
Top-quality bait.

>>11010106
>being so submerged in filth you can't even imagine somebody else being pure
SAD!

>>11009252
God's not dead

>>11010110
What? She looks like a teenager.

>>11010110
>>11010151
so THIS is the power of faith

>>11010110
Why? Two max is all a family needs, maybe three. Any more than that, and each child has an insufficient amount of care growing up, in relation to today's expectations at least.

>>11010151
She doesn't say her age but she can't be that young. Mid 20s at least.
https://saintnook.com/robin-nest-lane-shopping-with-blessed-zelie/

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>>11009499
>altar girl

>>11010193
This shit is not fair. I'm a Christian too but I'm ugly, not married, have no kids and I'm balding. Why God doesn't keep me young and good looking too?

"It was not in Wotan’s nature to linger on and show signs of old age. He simply disappeared when the times turned against him, and remained invisible for more than a thousand years, working anonymously and indirectly. Archetypes are like riverbeds which dry up when the water deserts them, but which it can find again at anytime. An archetype is like an old watercourse along which the water of life has flowed for centuries, digging a deep channel for itself. The longer it has flowed in this channel the more likely it is that sooner or later the water will return to its old bed."

- Carl Jung

>>11009252
>Is God being dead a finality? Or is a Resurrection possible?
It's possible if civilization were to be annihilated and all our history was lost. But who wants that besides angsty manchildren?

The death of God as announced by Nietzsche was a philosophical statement. It means that God no longer has a place in the world for those who are the most learned. We are gods ourselves now. The days of yearning for ultimate knowledge are over; it was an illusion, and we now recognize it as such. We now attain to something else, a new illusion — ultimate power; but we know it as illusion, and we love it regardless, so the pursuit takes on a different meaning, no longer that of the seductive "Truth." If you want things to go back to how they were, back when we were not intelligent enough to move beyond the pursuit of Truth, then you need to destroy our history. There is no other way.

But you are an enemy to life itself if you strive for that destruction, for life itself is a constant building up, a constant striving for greater power. For why else did we not remain as quark soup that unfathomable amount of years ago?

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>>11009252
these veils are so embarrassing
all of the tryhards at my church are wearing them now

>>11010578
>4chan ad 2018

>>11010578
>no argument, just pompous dismissal
Typical.

>New Struggles. After Buddha was dead people showed his shadow for centuries afterwards in a cave, - an immense frightful shadow. God is dead: - but as the human race is constituted, there will perhaps be caves for millenniums yet, in which people will show his shadow. - And we - we have still to overcome his shadow!

>>11010193
>tfw you will never put eight children inside of her
Why even live, bros?

>>11009482
I think he's being wholesome about it. It's more ridiculous to act like your holding back this incessant lust, when in reality it's not like that whatsoever

>>11010185
this is your brain on secularism

>>11009499
i saw this on 8gag two months ago

>>11009252
Jesus Christ is the antichrist and His return is simply the advent of the antichrist. Yahweh and Lucifer both are satan. The alpha-omega redpill.

>>11009706
>you could tell by her eyes that not only was she a virgin, but she had likely never even thought about it.
>actually believing this

>>11009914
>It upsets me when women lie to themselves and pretend that virginity doesn't matter at all, or that it doesn't matter at all how many men they've been with. Not because I want them to feel guilty for being impure, but because I can tell that they're lying to themselves and it makes them inwardly miserable.
Man I wish I had your incredible mind-reading powers that reveal that everyone secretly feels the same way as you do no matter what they say.

>>11009296
powerful post

>>11009706
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>>11009780
lit truly is the funniest and most entertaining board

>>11010106
Fuck man haha whyd you have to tell him like this

>>11010110
thats hot

>>11009706

>>11009499
This was on /r/koreangirls as well as /his/ and /r9k/

>>11009666
Yeah we know about Hegel but we are not talking about God as some kind of abstract absolute version of consciousness we are talking about Nietzsches version.

>>11009296
This guy is playing rope-a-dope. Seen some people get too proud about taking punches though. Sometimes it's not a matter of how well you can take punishment. Like the way you get past a boss in an old mario game, you hop on his bombs and through them back at him. Eventually you get to the next level. Which isn't harder, but it's fun to play, plus your game has been saved.

>>11010038
>>11010110
She has 9 kids as of March 2018

>>11010185
The best way I've heard it described is:
With each child, you're not simply cutting up a thinner slice of the love and attention pie. With each child, there's a whole new pie on the table.
As one of 6 children (and I was the 5th), I can certainly confirm it felt this way as a child. I never felt as though I was any less loved than any of my siblings, and they all report the same.
Perhaps it's just a post-ww2 Anglo thing to think it's impossible to love more than like 2 or 3 people at once.

>>11009296
Not bad

>>11010110
This is the mother, her daughters model for the product.

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>>11012244
In the 20th and 21st centuries, less civilized families have more children. The more civilized a family is, the less children it tends to have.

>>11012857
>Perhaps it's just a post-ww2 Anglo thing to think it's impossible to love more than like 2 or 3 people at once.
No, it's just reality. The more children you have, the less each of them receive. Parents only have so much time in the day to give to their children, and with more children, that time becomes divided even more. Capitalism also dispels that nice little story of yours. With each child does not necessarily come a whole new pie on the table unless the family can afford it.

>>11009252
why is /lit/ so filled with godcucks?

>>11012255
Which board?

>>11012957
People just like roleplaying as being Christian

>>11012938
>correlation
>implying literally anything
the absolute state of brainlets lol

>>11012938
>self-absorbed city people tend to have less children
>this proves that big families are bad

>>11013003
>self-absorbed
It's the opposite. People who have lots of kids in this day and age are self-absorbed. That's why it's always South American families with 6+ children, who tend to be the most self-absorbed, fat, lazy type of people. People who have less want to give as much to each child as possible, and thus are more concerned for their children's health than the former.

>>11013015
>every child deserves to be spoiled
>therefore many children is bad
>also i hate mexicans

>>11012957
Because religion is the next intellectual step after atheism

>>11013019
Giving more to one's children =/= spoiling them.

>>11009296
Or, religion was a place-filler until science came of age, and now the silly superstitious bullshit and hatred can fade away and let us enjoy our wonderful ephemeral existence for what it is, and not hang on to this poisonous idea that it's just a test for some eternal bliss-state. Religion is dying out in America because we don't need it or want it: Just 18% of people 60 and younger attend church and less than 50% believe in God. In most developed nations, the trend is even faster. It's entirely fitting that you have nothing but empty claims and baseless beliefs to offer that contradict available facts: it's always been the religious modus operandi.

>>11013043
>muh god of the gaps
Brainlet

>>11012840
People had already written in reply to the death of God before Nietzsche took up a pen nigga

>>11010648
Your bullshit wasn't worth any "argument." Do you even care what the words you use actually mean?
>we are gods ourself now
Bullshit. Are you immortal? Omniscient? Do you pass a single actual test of divinity? Of course not. We're the same stupid sacks of short-lived meat as always. Seriously, we get the internet and vaccinations and suddenly think we're deities? Understanding that gods aren't real doesn't make you a god, just a slightly less deluded animal.
>We wanted ultimate knowledge; now we want ultimate power
Ass-backwards horseshit. Most of recorded human history is squalid struggles for power and influence. It is in no way any new phase. As for "ultimate knowledge," who the hell wanted that? If you mean simply more knowledge, our search and discovery of it has greatly accelerated. This is the information age, not the power age. And we aren't "destroying our history" either, certainly not compared to the losses of history and culture from every age before us. Everything you claim is absurd.
Your blathering is whatever feels good to you. You haven't consulted reality for any part of it, so don't expect anyone to give it the time of day.

>>11013054
Yeah. Doesn't mean there is anything wrong with discussing it in Nietzsche's context

>>11013094
>Are you immortal?
Yes, and so are you. And we have experienced our immortality for some time now. What now grows in us is a longing not for an after-life or eternity, but to perish in our love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emGh_5E3idQ

>Omniscient?
Yes, and again, so are you, if you knew what life and death and the universe and "everything" now meant. But you still refer to these things as though you were unaware of how we have changed over the past three millennia.

>Understanding that gods aren't real doesn't make you a god
But that's not what I understand. If God died, God was.

>Most of recorded human history is squalid struggles for power and influence.
This is different from striving for ultimate power. The past two millennia were also defined primarily by the pursuit of truth, which is the period of time I was referring to.

>As for "ultimate knowledge," who the hell wanted that?
The world did. That desire is what created God.

>we aren't "destroying our history"
I didn't say you already were. I said that if you want there to be a "resurrection," that is what it will take. A great flood is needed first.

>>11013043
>let us enjoy our wonderful ephemeral existence
t.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMszrlUUz14

>>11009706
based

>>11009252
I want a qt catholic wife so much, but I'm afraid that I'm too far gone morally (As evidenced by my drug and 4chan use) and that as soon as I opened my mouth she'd be corrupted or just straight up leave b/c I'm a degenerate in her eyes.

>>11013176
God dying does not mean the actual death of God you pseud, it's talking about the end of conceptual and theoretical realities that the idea of God employed, about culture moving from one based on 'god' to not.

>>11012834
>This was on r/koreangirls and...
>knowing this.
How about you fuck off back there.

>>11010508
>We are gods ourselves now. The

>>11013241
>God dying does not mean the actual death of God
>actual
You have much to learn.

>>11012834
Reddit? Looked up and wasn't there

>>11009252
Religion will always be with us in some way. More and more it will be a private thing and less a public identity (for most people, excepting religious classes like priests) but that's far in the future.

Time and again it's shown nations fall out of grace with God but the good among them move to pastures new.

The state of our nations is troubling but i'd rather be with 3000 good people than 3000000 Sodomities.

God dying is a narcissist in over their head about their own power. Some fedoras on r/atheism declares God dead is supposed to hold weight?

>>11013265
Are you one of those people who never read the full passage by Nietzsche?

>We have killed him - you and I. We are his murderers. But how have we done this? How were we able to drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What did we do when we unchained the earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving now? Away from all suns? Are we not perpetually falling? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there any up or down left? Are we not straying as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is it not more and more night coming on all the time? Must not lanterns be lit in the morning? Do we not hear anything yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we not smell anything yet of God's decomposition? Gods too decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? That which was the holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet possessed has bled to death under our knives. Who will wipe this blood off us? With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we not ourselves become gods simply to be worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whosoever shall be born after us - for the sake of this deed he shall be part of a higher history than all history hitherto.

>>11013043
>superstitious
>hatred
>wonderful ephemeral existence
>poisonous
>don't need it
>facts

Geeez

>>11009298
SURELY SOME REVELATION IS AT HAND

>>11009252
Oh, fuck me. You 'tards are still going on about this shit?

God being dead was symbolic, a metaphor for the freedom of will and agency in humanity to choose our own lives.

If you want to believe in the "One True" God, look at the Universe as a living system. If you want a deity to comfort you at night, get a girlfriend.

>OP a faggot

>>11009706
Entertaining post. Keep it up!

>>11009252
read the brothers k
only the orthodox church can save us

>>11013331
God died several hundred years before the internet ever existed. It's nice to be part of a cult and all share the same delusion together, that's why it's comfortable to be around people who echo your sentiment

>>11013176
My response wasn't an invitation for more of your pompous adolescent pseudo-prophetic blathering, anon.