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11000154 No.11000154 [Reply] [Original]

write whats on your mind

>> No.11000161

/lit/ doesn't read

>> No.11000199

/lit/ is literally unironically one person

>> No.11000204

>>11000161
Mate I hardly have the attention span to read more than three sentences of a single post.

>> No.11000221

Aristophanes has my favorite Eulogy about love in the Symposium. The absurd parts are obviously absurd, but everything else he says I find to be very interesting.
This girl I've lacked in my life (har har har) is currently reading it and I hope she notices how much of what we have irl is talked about in the book

>> No.11000230

>>11000221
nope, she will realize how gay books are and search for a little boy to bugger and a wise woman to munch

>> No.11000245

>>11000230
I'm actually scared about this. How do I rationalize all the gay shit in it so that she doesn't think she can only get something good with another girl or if she turns herself into a little boy?

>> No.11000270

>>11000245
I dont think theres a lot of gay stuff in it, thats a meme, like what 0.02% of it has that? And just used as a device to show the potential strangeness of love, and the relation of it to possible soul, transcending the body. To relate it to pleasure, and companionship

>> No.11000272

>>11000204
Why do you even post here?

>> No.11000275
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i kind of want to start a philosophy/literature youtube channel, simply because i have no one irl to share that interest with

>> No.11000287

>>11000275
Pretty girls are overrated.

>> No.11000296
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>>11000287
ummmmmmmmmmmmm....... try again honey :)))

>> No.11000305

>>11000296
Im a pretty boy, and I like pretty girls, but we boys are better ;))

>> No.11000390

>>11000296
pretty girls are nice to look at but a nightmare to deal with. Like you might enjoy looking at the mona lisa but your not gonna try to buy it

>> No.11000399

>>11000390
We are talking about their beauty, you are moving goalposts. The original post is that their beauty is not overrated and is in fact one of Gods greatest gifts to mankind.

>> No.11000420

>>11000399
>We are talking about their beauty
Anon merely said:
>Pretty girls are overrated.
It is possible to interpret that as meaning, pretty girls are overrated

>> No.11000425

>>11000154
I destroyed my life trying to become a hentai artist.
It was never about that, really.
Just trying to avoid life for a while.
Still haven't released anything.
Four months till endgame.

>> No.11000460

>>11000425
want to illustrate my novel?

>> No.11000526

>>11000460
I can guarantee you I won't be as good as you're expecting.
So I'll do it for free.

>> No.11000590

>>11000526
got any samples?

>> No.11000696

>>11000590

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>>11000590
Yes.

>> No.11000782

>>11000275
go for it, ill sub

>> No.11000801

>>11000702
thats dope, really dig it, post more, you got a throwaway email?

>> No.11000827

>>11000801
emailforthatoneguy@yopmail.com

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11001023

Do people shave their assholes?

>> No.11001061

>>11000154
want to read some good scifi genre fiction, maybe space opera or time travel novel, something that has been written in the last 20 years and not fucking outdated, cant find anything worthwhile except all this hard sci BS

>> No.11001080

God dammit, I have a date with an old friend and the implications hit me like a brick sudennly and now I'm so fucking nervous. I've been trying out shirts for half an hour like a teenage girl preparing for prom and I feel dumb and ugly and fffffffuck why am I like this?

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11001088

>tfw finally getting over the pain and hardship of the past year
We're all going to make it bros.

>> No.11001091

>>11001080
nice

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4IXXpTHjok

>> No.11001131

Women like a dude that could fuck shit up if he had to, but only would if he had to. Basically they have to know you're only a threat to what she fears, not her.

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>>11000154
I want a cute girl to get fucked by my bf but he's too gay and loves me too much

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>>11000154
I'm very disgruntled that the kids I live with decided to throw another party this weekend without giving me a heads up. I've got two tests to take and homework to do (online classes). I'm holed up in my room like some NEET autist while there's a party going on because I have to play school. Feels bad, man.

>> No.11001168

I still hate my job and want to quit. I miss having the motivation to be creative like I did when I was younger and more recently when I was a NEET. I'd do things that I enjoyed and didn't feel like I wasted ten years of my life at all. Sure, I wasn't productive in the normal sense that capitalism forces us to be for puppet masters but I did enjoy my time. Didn't need a lot of money and still don't, really.

Got paid my slave wages and instead of investing it normally I invested it in myself. Bought some hobby stuff that I honestly probably won't even have the motivation to do anything with until my "weekend" which is just Wednesday and Thursday because I work at a shitty mall doing the same thing every single day so people can fuck it up again not even twelve hours later on a shift I absolutely hate away from the things I actually like. If it weren't for my good colleagues I would have quit already.

I want to be creative again. I want to enjoy my time instead of dreading when I have to go to work again and sleeping all of it away because I don't even want to get out of bed. I understand how people get trapped and never "better" themselves. It's designed that way. It's designed to fuck us over so we don't do anything but work and vegetate.

>> No.11001359

I am bothered by the state of the world these last few years. I really did not think people could become much more dumber. Of course it's no surprise that it's the Americans that are spewing so much of this stupidity but the obvious rampant propaganda that people eat up is sickening. This world become more dystopian in so many ways every year.

I also hate the new acronyms and buzz words that have been spawned. "Fake news." Fuck. You. It's propaganda in its purest form. Why does blatant propaganda need a new term? And POTUS. Oh my god. I genuinely become angry when people say POTUS to refer to the president. Just call him the fucking president you neanderthal. Anyway, I just am pretty fed up with hearing about all the shit going on.

>> No.11001706

Should I meet up with this 20yo art hoe I matched with on tinder or should I ignore her and text a super devout 23yo redhead Catholic girl I know and ask her to go on a hike or something? I haven't had a gf in 4 years and I'm incredibly lonely.

>> No.11001844

>>11001706
Which is cuter?
Do you prefer art stuff or /out/ stuff?

>> No.11001891

>>11001706
>whynotboth.png

>> No.11001909

thinkin bout my exgf whos name starts with an m ... she wasnt any smarter than the other chicks id been involved with but she was perceptible enough to mock me 24/7 ... really got me into a jake-blount mindset of violent social paranoia ... also got me into opiates this past year

>> No.11001913

>>11001909
sounds unhealthy

>> No.11001939

>>11001909
How the fuck does someone get someone else into opiates? Did she give you back surgery or something? I mean how stupid can you be? Do you know how many thousands of people are dying from that shit right now?

>> No.11001943

>>11001891
i smell a comedy

>> No.11001983

>>11001706
art hoes are pure cancer

>> No.11002039

>>11001943
yep, they all enter a polyamorous relationship, except mainly they are lesbians and he is their little sub bitch who is mostly on a leash and sleeps in a cage on the floor at the other side of the room from their bed.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IksKydCVXVs

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Nobody fucking reads poetry any more and this makes me angry. I'm not angry at the public, I'm angry at academia and the literary establishment for cordoning poetry off into this faggy little club that nobody is a member of but them. Ask yourself: can you name five contemporary poets? Of course not.

It wasn't always this way. Byron was a fucking bestseller. People used to read Homer for fun. And people still like the old poets. There are recordings of actors reading Keats on YouTube that have six-figure views. Poetry COULD be popular like it used to be, but it isn't, and I hate that. It has to change.

>> No.11002201

>>11002042
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IksKydCVXVs
21:45, the jam (first tune is really great too, whole thing is awesome though)

>> No.11002452

i just went to get some food and as i was riding down the street on my bike this bmw i8 starts driving all slow next to me, of course letting me get an eyeful, i'm thinking who could be driving such a thing, i look in and see asian qt in the passenger and a sick looking dashboard that looked like a fucking hologram or someshit, i'm like woah wtf and then he drove off...

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>>11002161
>Nobody fucking reads poetry any more

excuse me sweetie?

>> No.11002459

i have a lot of hate in my heart

>> No.11002485

>>11002161
yeah bro it's because of academia and not because of the consumerist society or anything fucking ivory tower i swear

>> No.11002510
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11002510

I write cheesy romance fiction in superhero/sci-fi settings.
I find porn and nudity repulsive. I can't look at rule 34 without feeling physical pain.
My dad used to sexually abuse me until around the age of 16.
I went to a dominatrix a few months ago. It was a wonderful experience and I'd like to go again,
Big Hero 6 is my favorite movie and I wrote a twelve thousand word analysis of it.
I have a massive fetish for cheerleaders

>> No.11002595

I think hypocrisy might be impossible to escape without objective reasons to at least try to escape it. As in religion. But even then.

>> No.11002602

>>11000154
shitters clogged, i dont have a plunger and the roads are undrivable outside. yikes

>> No.11002617

>>11001168
>>11001359
You sound like me, anon
I'm glad we're not alone

>> No.11002624

>>11002510
i like cheesy romance fiction, i don't like superhero/sci-fi settings

i love porn

i'm really sorry that happened to you. did he ever get caught/ got to prison?

i've always thought about going, but i don't know if i'd enjoy it

4/10

me too

>> No.11002631

>>11001706
>even having to question this

>> No.11002637 [DELETED] 

>>11002624
i feel ripped off, my parents never divorced, i was never molested, they didnt do drugs or drink, i have like no excuses for being a total fuckup, well my problems stem from school, i was a grade ahead and then my friends where all from the next grade above the grade i was already to young for, so i spend all my formative years being tiny and stupid compared to those around me, so now that i'm an adult and like 6'1 and educated i still feel like everyone is stronger and smarter than me even tho i can tell i am objectively above average in those areas, i wish i had just become a tranny, i cant get my personality to match who i am now

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Today I was sad because a girl on tinder flaked out when I asked her out on a date so I wrote a 1000 word treatise on how lonely I am and how capitalism can fulfill every human need except love

>> No.11002682

>>11002664
communism cant fulfill love either, sick of betas turning commie pretending like they'll be chads after the revolution

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>>11000154
What's the state of this world I'm in? Who respectfully understands the subtleties of responsibility? Who runs away? Who decides the fate of our lives?

>> No.11002695

>>11002682
i'm not a communist

>> No.11002752

>>11002664
she made a good decision

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audible is apparently producing their own audiobooks now as i just saw "audible classics" edition of beyond good and evil for $3 i went to cop but in the blurb it say "edited for content" but this looks like boilerplate they put on all "audible classics" so idk if i should cop or not, its about the same length as all other readings so doesnt seem to be abridged, idk shud i cop or not, its only $3 but i dont want my mind polluted by some weird edited version

>> No.11002774

ITS SATURDAY NIGHT WOOOOO!!!! LETS PARTY BITCHES!!!!!! WOWWWWW!!!!

>> No.11002778

>>11002755
any reviews?

>> No.11002781

>>11002755
Say 'cop or not' some more. Also:
>Not having the complete works of Nietzsche memorized so that you can recall them and essentially have a little audiobook playing in your head at any given time.

>> No.11002786

>>11002774
hell ya time to shitpost! that's whats up!

>> No.11002793

>>11002778
not on audible its new, but the reviews of the print version on amazon say its an old ass translation from 1898 or something, which could be interesting cuz there was no fascist shit to be defensive about back then, and nietzsche was even technically still alive

>> No.11002795

im a slave to video games. i thought i escaped this but i didnt.

>> No.11002800

>>11002781
yo can someone link me an epub of that 5 volume nietzsches collected works someone published in the 2000s its priced academically like 30 bucks a volume fuck that

>> No.11002808

>>11002786
SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS
THOTS THOTS THOTS THOTS

>> No.11002814

>>11002795
i've decided i'm going to get into game development, but i was talking to this indian cs major and when i said i was studying unreal engine i felt embarrassed (he had no clue wtf it even was, he's a good student but no geek) games are the most interesting because they combine pushing the limits of tech with graphics and ai, but also creative beautiful aesthetics, narratives and game mechanics, its the ultimate tech work, but i still feel embarrassed, i cant come out of the closer as a game dev until i make some decent bank cuz people studying mind numbing but well paying shit like sql will always look down on me or at least i will feel that way

>> No.11002838

>>11002814
Even if people do look down on you, that's no reason to ever give up on what you want to do. You find video games to be an artform, you clearly have a passion for it. Why deprive that passion because of the the beliefs of what judgmental people who have ultimately no impact on your life think?

Really, you should take those feelings and turn them into a game.

>> No.11002865

>>11002814
glad my slavery reinforced your drive to make more enslavement tools.

just kidding. fuck that guy, computer science majors are insufferable pricks, don't worry about it.

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>>11002485
it's more so caused by conservative republicans whose disdane of upper middleclass life in favour of meals at fast food joints rather than arugula salad eating at home with the family, the connection was implied across a social landscape that uppermiddle class asessories for their snobish luxurary, those people who want to tax you into the poor house, these people's disdane created a weird clash with anti-intellectual anti opinion, anti bookishness in general. The conservatives have so locked themselves to the lower classes in a way that trickles down into the media, and it's backfiring grandly, majestically indeed. Their spirit of national pride can't move to literature because it gives the wrong impression. An openness to foriengers and all. Whats surprising is that they know they need to save the canyoung too, so they play the game when they have to, just to keep one gun no one knows, they're not creative enough unfortunately to see that narrative is the supriour weapon, most indeed, indeed, and they now need it. Hahaha. They play the game now.

>> No.11002908

I'm too stupid for calculus. Literally on my third attempt at the class.

>> No.11002916

>>11002908
calculus itself is easy look at how simple the formulas are...it's the trig identities and shit that kills you, if u didnt memorize all them shits in high school calc 2 is gonna rock u

>> No.11002921

>>11002900
>american
aaaaand stopped reading

>> No.11002924

>>11002921
>he didnt stop at "disdane"

>> No.11002932

>>11002900
Blue collar people have their own culture and world, their not gonna spend their time reading poetry, they live it

>> No.11002935

the universe is a machine for creating suffering

>> No.11002936

>>11002161
I think I would love poetry, but I have no idea where to start. It just feels uninviting.

>> No.11002942

>>11002936
Start with the romantics

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>>11002921
>it's more so caused by conservative tories whose disdane of upper middleclass life in favour of meals at tim hortons rather than starbucks, or at home salad eating the family, the connection was implied across a cold social landscape that uppermiddle class, [sorry] asessories for their snobish, [really sorry about] luxurary, [again, I think you're great] those people who want to tax you into the poor house, [tradgic circumstances tbhs] these people's disdane created a weird clash with anti-intellectual anti opinion, anti bookishness in general. TheTories have so locked themselves to the lower classes in a way that trickles down into the media, and it's backfiring grandly, majestically indeed. Their spirit of national pride can't move to literature because it gives the wrong impression. An openness to foriengers and all. Whats surprising is that they know they need to save the canyoung too, so they play the game when they have to, just to keep one gun no one knows, they're not creative enough unfortunately to see that narrative is the supriour weapon, most indeed, indeed, and they now need it. Hahaha. They play the game now.

>> No.11002975

>tfw u in a shitposting trance riding a sea of mini dopamine hits and then ur apple watch hits u with the "time to stand up!" notification and snaps u to a moment of clarity

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>>11002975
>Uh...how about pain.
>hfw clarity is over ratted.
>I was born in a cellar and learned to fear the light.
>I learned to wrap myself into more darkness
>the enlightened is the burned, a destruction without purpose or repurposing
>like a field of mushrooms that burst into flower atop nomansland, a feild of mushrooms grew amongst the shelling, rising greyish blue ears from putrafied corpses
>heavens daynight feasting on the souls by plucking the mushroom that decomposed the body
>a trip that preserves the memory, translates it into a weird dream you've had that you can't seem to place, a tree, a willow, a day, a feeling of bliss, but also terrified awe.
>what collapses into this place, this hole I

>> No.11003138

wtf mods deleted the dog thread and the guy losing his virginity thread? wtf fuck it ima go sleep then

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Pic related resonates with extremely hard

After being exposed to Nietzsche's ideas 5 or 6 years ago I've felt literal non-stop anxiety because I'm unable to reconcile his arguments in favor of conflict and domination with my own sense of empathy for the subject in suffering

Is there literature that touches on this kind of internal strife

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I just can't seem to connect with people. I have a few acquaintances but no real friends. All of my hobbies are solitary, reading being one of them. A few years ago I somehow managed to end up in a relationship with this one girl that was in the same class as me. She broke up with me eventually claiming I was too boring and weird.
I just want someone to understand me.

>> No.11003172

>>11003149
First I don't get why you guys always focus on the boring aspects of Neetchan, to the point of putting him in the same cathegory of Ayn Rand.
Second, Nietzsche wouldn't want you to take him this seriously, especially in regards to "arguments". Bleah. There is more wisdom in your body than in your deepest philosophy. Maybe read some french faggots writing about Nietzsche? Bataille and Klossowski are pretty cool. If that sound appealing, you can always swallow the Heidegger pill.

>> No.11003174

>>11003172
if that doesn't sound*

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>tfw you realize pure knowledge is possible and also exciting and fun to attain and will give the bliss of true meaning to your life if you will only seek after it and yet you've been sitting around whining and jerking off for months

NO MORE BUTCHIE

NO MORE OF THIS

>> No.11003189

>>11003149
I did like pic related and found out that I'm a Nazi. Now I have to go around and drop obscure dog whistles just so I know whether I can talk honestly about anything. It's a nightmare.

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The truth is that weapons of war do not run themselves, at least not yet. For each bombing that takes place in some dusty desert, there are a million happy people eating hamburgers who support it with their thoughts, their hopes, their dreams, and their finances. Each of us is flying a drone, or at least we own part of one by proxy.

Buy nothing from those in the military. Buy nothing from those who support the military. Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s. But nothing more.

We just need to consider what we are putting our priorities on. Let us keep our taxable incomes small and endorse candidates who want to reduce military spending.

As Christians, let us not vote in anyone into office who supports war. We will have police, we will keep the police, but we will not have an army. If you believe that there are messages to be drawn from the Bible, do you not think this is one of them?

(Sidenote: You men who kill, are you so sure you are doing the right thing? No one is forcing you to drop the bomb).

We need to stop supporting candidates that what to wage so much war. We need to stop supporting candidates who want to drop bigger bombs. We need to all start supporting candidates that do things like support common sense, decency, and striving to end suffering by doing it personally in their lives and in their job.

The truth is we are all voting, all the time, with our wallets and our time. Support companies that openly contribute to certain candidates. Avoid ones that donate primarily to organizations you oppose.

If your friend works for one of the entities and systems that are evil , do not shun them. They just want money. But don't buy their products. And don't respond to their demands that you buy them, when they inevtiably come. Stay a friend.

Let us strive for an ideal and hope others follow. We do not need to start with a majority.

>> No.11003283

On my mind is a wet 18 years old pussy descending on my face and rubbing against it and convulsing.

>> No.11003314

The tie is 3 AM
I had a nightmare where Ii was a woman who was being stalked, In the end the stalker was me and I murdered myself. I have no clue what this means, but it does not seem pleasant
Spring has finally arrived, so now the parks of new york are filled with L.A. scum.

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Yesterdat my cousin called to ask about our family. We speak two different languages and niether of us knows more than a couple of words of each other's tongue.
I thought of passing the phone to my parents as I usually do bu he wanted to talk with me.
It was painfully hard to spit out that few words I know of the language but I could understand well enough.
He would actually make fun of me in a loving kind of way bu I could only laugh as an answer .
Than he said something like:
"You see Anon, we don't really have many occasions to talk, you don't have any social media and the languge barrier is an obstacle.
I want to make one thing clear... We love you, you know . Don't think that we care less about you because we don't speak much, we're always here. Understood shithead ?"

"Yeah... I know. Love you too."

"Good, my greetings to [family members]. "

"Likewise, - Bye"

"Bye"

>> No.11003436

>>11001023
I do, almost every couple of days. It's easier than you'd think, really. Keepin it twinky for my boy Ginsberg up in heaven or whatever

>> No.11003479

>>11000154
I've been ignoring a coworker of mine because I disagree with how she handled a breakup with her now ex. She stayed with him for years because she is an insecure weak person who is afraid of being alone. Eventually she breaks up with him, but only after going on a date with a new guy the day before she breaks up with her now ex, and again the day after. All the while telling me the day of that she just doesnt want to cause her ex pain.

Now all my coworkers are causing drama just because I dont want to talk to her anymore. I wonder if Im the one being dramatic, but she just repulses me and I dont want to chit chat with someone like that.

>> No.11003599

>>11000296
They really are. Well beauty is overrated. It's mostly for status. The appeal of beauty fades so very fast.

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So, i finally got an interview at some place.
I have never had a job before so now i have to try and make myself seem like god's gift to earth in terms of retail.

>> No.11003814

Every day I think of the burden. Every hour. Even in the best moments, when I am momentarily caught up in some fantasy, it is still there, in the corner of my mind. When I'm outside, it's all I can see. Most people do not know it exists, and of those that do, even fewer believe in it. With this curse, the past and future do not exist. There is no true desire, yet no true suffering. Months fly by. Sex is pointless. Beauty is pointless.

Does all that sound like metaphor? It's not. Not really. This is what life is like without emotions. I remember how all those things made me feel. My life felt important. Music felt important. Girls were pretty, and I liked looking at them. To have it all and lose it is like moving one step down the evolutionary ladder. I am trying all that I can, but I do not know if I will ever return to normal. If I do, it will be like a constant drug trip at all times. To live in a world where pleasure is constant and immediate, where falling face down on a bed after school feels divine - that might make me believe in god. But there is no way of knowing. It is all in the air, and like always, all I can do is keep waiting.

>> No.11003817

WHY CAN'T I STOP FUCKING FARTING?

>> No.11003877

>>11001359

I will admit after I hadn't posted for a while and came back to look I thought I had posted twice. I know how you feel, anon. Everything is horrible.

>> No.11003896

Is psychologist a good idea if I need to vent and someone to listen?

>> No.11003909
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>>11002664
>capitalism can fulfill every human need except love
Thats where you're wrong, frogboy

>> No.11004023

>>11002908
You got to take a step back and understand what's actually going on. All of the formulas, theorems, etc in basic calculus are really fucking obvious once you figure out what they're actually saying.

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>>11000154
>tfw no ancient gf

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>>11000154
The West paid a Faustian price to beat the Axis, and frankly it wasn't worth it.
The rot that infests the majority of the average pleb is going to cause it to collaspe and humanity once again will plunge into the Dark - much like it did when Rome fell

>> No.11004359

>>11002664
Love, and healthcare.

>> No.11004362

>>11002900
You're aren't even good at diagnosing problems.

>> No.11004607

>>11000154
I want to start reading books but I'm struggling to find interesting books. can someone give me one of those info graphs that have a bunch of recommended books. sci fi fiction etc, maybe something about meaning of life

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNUnr6tb0JI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE162op5DzA

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>>11004607
here's a good place to start reading

>> No.11005145
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11005145

How can something exist and be deemed "unnatural"? Simply because it did not occurr in it's found state? This phone now that I hold in my hand; metal, alloy, and electricity. All components found in nature, and for all is found in nature, nothing can ever truly be deemed unnatural. Skycrapers are nothing more than intricate anthills, with steel supplanted for soil. Just as this can be considered, it is important to note, there are no limits to what reality may hold. There is nothing wrong with being realistic, so long as one understands that, this does not simply mean what is real now, but what may and could possibly be. Far too often, we underestimate what reality holds.

>> No.11005159

i keep buying video games expecting them to make me happy like they did when i was a kid. they end up collecting dust and any attempts to get into them fail.

>> No.11005164

I honestly feel that I'm too sincere to ever be in a romantic relationship again. It pains me to think and feel this, as I do generally try to be an unpretentious person, but I just feel so disconected from most people, from their way of thinking, especially women, so I can't help it. I lack the cunning to adapt to this and to pretend that things are otherwise.
Despite all the development that humanity has managed to go through, everything is still so animal, so strange. I feel that I've come to conclusions about what I feel is important, beautiful and true that have no place in anyone else's consideration.

>> No.11005196

>>11005164
well said amigo. me too.

>> No.11005205

>>11005145
>All components found in nature, and for all is found in nature, nothing can ever truly be deemed unnatural.
I also think about this all the time. I'm not even a hippie sort of guy, but the human race shouldn't look at it's endeavours in this way, as them being somehow above nature.

>> No.11005229

>>11005205
Do you know works, authors, or philosophers who touch upon this? It feels liberating to remember that, everything and anything I do is justified by nature, simply because I /am/ nature. GMO's? Nuclear Warfare? Space Travel? 100% natural.

Man is still animal, no matter how hard he try to forget.

>> No.11005256

>>11005196
thanks for the (You), parce

>> No.11005286

>>11005164
what is one of your conclusions that you've come to though?

>> No.11005298

>>11005229
me, desu
But in seriousness, not really. It just always struck me as hypocritical and high-and-mighty for "green" sorts of people to refer to things as "unnatural", leading me to that conclusion.
I can't think of anyone who might address it directly, and then even if you did find something it would probably be from Unabomber type hard ecologists.
Maybe someone in the anti-christian field of things might talk about it, since the thought of Man being opposed to Nature is an inherently christian mindset.

>> No.11005362

>>11001706
fuck ark hoe today, forget, catholic girl tomorrow or next week

>> No.11005377

>>11000154
Is it homophobic to stop hanging out with my friend because he might be gay?

Should I go to the bookstore?

>> No.11005393

>>11005229
that term natural is used colloquial to mean like 'smooth, organic, historically healthy', so technically as you say its natural to drink bleach and hemlock and eat poop: but colloquially it would be said 'unnatural' because it would lead to human decay and ruin.

>> No.11005413

>>11005286
For example, for something that relates to the romantic relationship issue which is particularly bothering me this afternoon, that sex is a profoundly beautiful and sacred act, perhaps the only truly sacred act there is. Because of this, it's a deeply personal thing that should only be had with someone you truly love and trust.
I know it sounds vanilla as fuck, but I know literally no one who thinks like this. Everyone looks at it as something dirty and shameful, or as a power exchange ritual, especially in the case of men, or as a selfish act of self affirmation, in the case of women. This leads people to approach romantic affairs in such wasteful, stupid and disgusting ways, and to address them in such crass and vulgar terms, and this fills me with such sadness and loneliness that I just want to chop my cock and balls off and become a monk.
This is just one of them, it can go right down to: "flowers are beautiful", which I actually feel, and then everyone thinks I'm some kind of faggot. It's all so alienating.

>> No.11005478

>>11005377
why do you care? I don't think that homosexuality is something that is healthy or should be encouraged, but it seems like a dumb reason to stop hanging out with someone you like

>> No.11005551

>>11002900
Up until y2k the GOP mostly appealed to the upper middle class because they made up their base of voters and donors, but now both parties get most of their money from billionaires and superPACs and pander to the blue collar vote. I still don't see how this caused the unpopularity of poetry though, and besides, poetry will always be popular in the form of lyrical music, where it bears more resemblance to traditional forms (like a rhyme scheme chosen for ease of memory) than anything that anon's vision of academic elitism has produced.

Poetry has always flourished when and where literacy has failed, being a phenomenon of oral history and tradition, and culture will always be either passed or preserved in some form.

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How do people meditate? Every time I try to do it I fall asleep

>> No.11005691

>>11002900
The hot-headed, mechanical, narrative pushing Beta
>>11005551
The patient, intellectual, "above-board", straightforward Chad

>> No.11005720

>>11002935
But for what purpose is this suffering?
If you look at it like a prison where we can only feel pain, you lack the insight as to why you were placed in said prison; reform.
A rabbit may think his life is suffering because his main purpose is to be eaten by the wolf, just as a wolf will think he is suffering to be made into human's clothes.
When a man can see himself in the grand scheme of things, dwelling on "suffering" and "reward" becomes nothing more than the realization that all is relative. Take your pain and joy in order to create and survive.

>> No.11005753

>>11003164
>She broke up with me eventually claiming I was too boring and weird.

>b-but anon I like those qualities
>youre not different you're unique
>if I could choose, it would be you, but I cant
>i need a man who makes me feel safe, not good

Started me on my journey too anon, we will see the promised land as soon as understand that we are not the promised land.

>> No.11005766

>>11003189
>:)
?

>> No.11005792

Some chick super liked me on tinder and now I'm too afraid to like back because I'm really a loser who still lives with his parents

>> No.11005795

>>11005792
just go for it, worst case scenario she rejects you and you're in the exact same situation you're in now

>> No.11005820

>>11003261
This post is a much healthier and a much more beneficial argument than that I've seen thrown around now by the "neo-enlight".
We are the catalyst for change; we allowed all this to happen, we are the only ones who can stop it.

>> No.11005846

>>11003479
>I wonder if I'm the one being dramatic
Slightly. Your opinion is valid, but understand not everyone shares it.
Rather than shunning her into compliance, use your position as a friend to help her see how her method could cause more harm than good. She may not understand that what she did is indeed hurtful. The end does not justify the means if there is no growth made.

>> No.11005875

>>11002664

Unchecked capitalism is the reason why the world is completely fucking shit. America was a mistake.

>> No.11005880

>>11005875

America is not even capitalist. Capitalism is just the narrative. America is raw animal behavior unchecked by higher principle or motive. Capitalism would actually be a step up for it.

>> No.11006041

>>11005875
i'm hoping that techno futurist hyper capitalism can eventually provide us with ai gfs

>> No.11006047

>>11005875
>Unchecked capitalism
where?

>> No.11006056

>>11005846
The problem is I talked at great length to her before and during the break up about the importance of being single, especially since she was talking about not wanting to cause him pain

>> No.11006160

>>11006056
The value is being single is something she will have to learn for herself. You have every reason to want to explain to her why it is important, but as I said; an opinion may be valid even if everyone chooses not to embrace it.
It sounds to me your intentions as a friend are wholesome and if I were you I would want to see my friend loosen herself from the shackles of insecurity, anxiety, and lack of self-discipline that has caused this mess to begin with more than give up because she has failed yet again.
Being single is a vital way to begin to lose those qualities but she may feel that only a bf can save her. Her friend should be there for her thick and thin as these boys use her and she gets hurt more and more, not to justify her actions but put them into perspective.

>> No.11006172

>>11006160
>first "is" is "of"*

>> No.11006224

i'm selling an old macbook pro so i deleted the main partition and went to reinstall and like somehow when u run the recovery it still had my wifi settings like the network and the password saved on the "restore" partition...i thought that was only for a basic macos factory install, how is it keeping my wifi password? what other shit is it keeping? does it have a record of all my shitpost? all the tranny porn i fapped to? all the torrents i leeched? what the hell this is disturbing, i swear from now on i'm only using computers for work, video games, watching classes, and masturbating to straight white porn

>> No.11006239

>>11006224
haha now having a separate shit laptop for porn and torrents doesnt seem so crazy after all, when i finally upgrade this piece of shit i will smash it with a sledge hammer and then throw it in the river, not that theres anything particularly bad on except tranny pornos and audiobook torrents but one can never be too paranoid

>> No.11006246

>>11006239
Haha yeah, I stopped using facebook ages ago after the CiA started cyber stalking me, I have to check my car for tracking devices ever day before work now, and I'm pretty sure my bathroom is wired so I just shower in my kitchen sink now. I don't even understand why I've been picked for this cyop. It's Disgusting.

>> No.11006253

I left an arizona iced tea in my backpack for a week and when I finally drank it, it tasted like the incense I kept in the same pocket.

>> No.11006255

>>11000305
Boys make the best girls

>> No.11006262

>>11006253
is arizona doing a viral marketing thing on r9k i see that shit memed everywhere, and before some fag says thats unpossible u shoud see all the product placements for arizona iced tea on the thrasher skateboarding channel, they're clearly paying to be put in "youth culture" either way the chemicals in arizona iced tea always make me depressed so if fags on r9k are chugging that shit daily that would explain a lot

>> No.11006268

>>11006255
Nah, degeneracy is counter intuitive to it means to be man. Man generates from the female sex in the womb.

I'm just pretty.

>> No.11006272

>>11006246
its because all your shitposting man, they've determined you're a threat to the deep state, the alt-right must be neutralized

>> No.11006274

>>11006268

Transgenderism isn't inherently degenerate. Most pre-christian cultures had social roles and expectations for transgender people that were very strict and traditional.

>> No.11006281

>>11006274
we still have that now, i just fapped to some homemade videos from this tranny hooker of color from baltimore, she had tons of videos of sucking the bigdicks of bmore thugs in her kitchen on her phone, then there was one that was like "sucking my sister's boyfriends dick ... AGAIN" i nutted all over the place

>> No.11006284

>>11006281

Now that's degenerate.

>> No.11006289

>>11006272
Lol I post on /x/ and talk about religion, occultism and Pyschology. Not even kidding, could start a cult on a whim.

>> No.11006301

forget trannies and gay wedding cakes an shit, i think the sign of the degeneracy of our era is that boys/men can talk about playing video games in front of women and still get laid, i'm sorry but that is degenerate, when i was growing up if u talking about videogames at all in the presence of women you will never ever get any pussy from them, ok maybe if u play some jock shit like nbajamz or whatever it was called, but even that is a gamble, but being an out of the closet rpg player, oh fuck know your dick staying dry. now fags can walk around in public talking about playing final fantasy and kyrim and shit in front of women with no negative consequences, very degenerate, not good

>> No.11006302

>>11006274
It's degenerate when we feed their ideals of citizinship with morally grey liberating values it's a slippy slippy slope.

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>>11001023
Yes, sometimes, though I've used Veet. I don't even have a reason for being groomed there, but I shave my whole body which, admittedly, never had much hair to begin with. The tricky area is the face, but I've been lasering for a year and covering any shadow well with light foundation + concealer.

>>11006281
See that's a bit degenerate. I just want to be a semi-traditional wife with a /lit/ter of children, and a part-time library job.

>> No.11006308

>>11006301
I agree unironically.

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>>11006305
Pls be in the pnw

>> No.11006321

>>11006289
the fbi HATES cults didn't u see when clinton ordered them to run over all those poor cultists with tanks in waco texas and like two dozen children ended up burning to death, the fbi will ruthless neutralize anyone perceived to be a threat to the deepstate

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>>11006318
Eastern Canada, sadly. I'd love to move to Victoria some day. The weather is more temperate year-round.

>> No.11006349

>>11006321
If you don't understand the paranioa was a joke shame on you

>> No.11006358

>tfw I just want to live peacefully, tend a garden, go fishing, and love a wonderful wife
>i just want to work on my novels, and my philosphical ideas
>I want to raise my children with the correct morals ideals and beliefs, in the traditional sense
>tfw i know the pickings for woman at this caliber are slim and far from young

:(

>> No.11006367

>>11006358
>tfw I'd love to be that wife
>tfw born male

>> No.11006371

>>11006358
are you me? that is exactly what i want

>> No.11006379

>>11006367
>you will never bear my young
>you will never be my muse of youth
>tfw I'll never continue my bloodline with you

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why the FUCK are write whats on your mind threads the hook-up spot for desperate /lit/izens

get oooooOOOOUT!

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>>11006384
Go home frog

>> No.11006405

I wish my mind wasn't so foggy.

>> No.11006414

The shift from monarchy to democracy and from capitalism to communism is merely the shift from one overt tyranny to another more elusive one.

>> No.11006418

>>11006367
>the kind of shit republican trannies fantasizr about

u might as well just be straight if ur gonna be that vanilla and boring sheesh

>> No.11006419

>>11006405
Drink a coffee

>> No.11006423

>>11006418
How is that boring or "vanilla"

>> No.11006431

>>11006418
>republican

I'm not even American, anon. I do have a little bit of a femdom kink, but that's not as fun to shit post about.

>https://youtu.be/iS84BMFszW0

>> No.11006447

the mind is but a plaything of the body and my body is a fucking wasteland

>> No.11006449

>>11006447
Other way around bucko

>> No.11006456

>>11006449
wrong

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>>11006456
Absolutely not

Brainlet

>> No.11006468

>>11006466
thanks fellow magapede

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>>11006401
i am home tho

>> No.11006515

Can someone please tell me how to turn my brain off and just become interested in hedonistic pursuits? Trying to become wise is making me insane and lose all motivation or desire for anything, I would really like to reverse course on this one.

I thought I was smart but I am actually a massive brainlet. I just want to feel satisfaction again.

>> No.11006542

>>11006515
I can't exactly tell you how to open your mind, but I can tell you what has worked for me.
No sleep and no-fap; good reset for the brain.

>> No.11006551

>>11006515
>Trying to become wise is making me insane
Then you're doing it wrong you fucktard

>> No.11006575

>>11006515
Stop trying to be "wise" because you're seeking vanity, not wisdom. What you should orient yourself toward is humility, and admit that you do not know shit. How do you approach reading, by trying to read as much to check off some list? Focus more on reading well and not being well read. Stop seeking that external validation. Try reading some philosophy that speaks to your situation, or books that appeal to you, and worry less about what people expect you to say or think.

If that's too much of a daunting task, then I recommend amphetamines and 12 hour binges of step-sister tranny porn.

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I don't view people as human anymore, only bio-socio-psychological force clusters interpreted through my vague philosophizing
children aren't just cute, they're cute because they're a chance at making something great and healthy
someone being awkward isn't just awkward, they're awkward because underdeveloped social interaction pathways or maybe because the power dynamics in the room are way off baseline
a thought is one of my force nodes making an assault in a attempt for control of the entire organism
how do I make it stop

>> No.11006642

>>11006593
realize you've created a religion as deep as a sci-fi sect. that or join the scientologists. they like that kind of shit.

>> No.11006644

>>11006593
Why do you want it to stop if you're completely correct?

>> No.11006645

>>11006575
>Focus more on reading well and not being well read
Thanks for a good quote, not what I expected from /lit

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>>11006644
being correct is not conductive to my mental health

>> No.11006660

No imagination left, no motivation left, bottoming out, haven't written anything in weeks

>> No.11006674

>>11006652
Ignorance is bliss, anon.
You know the truth as you see it, and it seems you do have a good understanding of what makes us Us, but don't allow fear to control you.
Take this knowledge and work it so that you are able to live the best life possible for not only yourself but those around you.
and pls dont post frogs

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>>11006645
Thanks.
/lit/ is full of surprises.

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>>11006379
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

>> No.11006701

I haven't read a book in months
Years ago, I used to read a lot for escapism and it helped me a lot

these days, I'm glued to a screen for hours on end because I just dont want or have the mental energy to read

I just keep buying books, i'll never finish

>> No.11006706

>>11006593
>I don't view people as human anymore, only bio-socio-psychological force clusters interpreted through my vague philosophizing
There's no difference you mongoloid

>> No.11006712

>>11006701
what do you do all day?

>> No.11006718

>>11006706
the difference is between interpreting people at face value, like a child might, and viewing them in an analytic and abstracted manner that goes contrary to immediate experience (such as me saying I when the I doesn't really exist)

>> No.11006720

what if everyone's worries right now are overblown?

>> No.11006726

>>11006718
Again, there's no difference. Even if there were, that shouldn't change how you feel about them.

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>>11006712
I'm an engineer

I work in an office, I go home, I sit on 4chan for hours until its bed time
Sometimes i change up my routine, I watch youtube for hours

I watch liveleak for hours
and than i go to sleep

Than the next day, back to work like a fucking slave who should be happy with making tons of money but literally can't beat depression for months

>> No.11006733

>>11006720
Some of them probably are but that doesn't negate their crippling effect

>> No.11006734

>>11006726
maybe it shouldn't but something is making me feel less and less human

>> No.11006741

>>11006733
the crippling comes from everyone throwing their worries onto one another in a never ending chain

>> No.11006745

>>11006720
what if they're underblown

>> No.11006751

>>11006727
gimme some money and i'll tell you how to be happy

>> No.11006758

>>11006745

try another word because an underblow refers to a punch

>> No.11006762

>>11006734
Say you're a children that enjoys staying in the sun. You love its warmness and its brightness. Later you grow up and you discover that actually the sun is actually a giant ball of fire, and the earth on which you live is a rock that floats around it. Does that make the sun any less bright and majestic?

>> No.11006764

>>11006758
what if they're underblowjob

>> No.11006768

>>11000161
>>11000000

I haven't read in a few weeks besides a few pages here and there. Very demotivated, work saps the life out of me. It's depressing, and I feel like I barely have the mental energy to play video games.

>> No.11006782

>>11006764

then you obviously spent too much time sucking cock and got AIDS,

that certainly is a problem that is not overblown

>> No.11006783

>>11006727
similar situation, engineer who hates his job wage slaving and comes home and stares at my computer. instead of browsing i play worthless vidya that i dont enjoy, but im trying anon, read a lot today. just got to get started, i suggest philosophy, something that will help you see the folley of your ways, it worked for me

>> No.11006793

>>11006762
if I replaced humanized myths about the nature of the sun (as say a god who carries it with him as he races across the sky each day for the benefit of us) with cold materialistic data about how the sun is a bunch of fart particles that happened to occupy a small enough portion of local space for gravity to converge them into a large sphere then yes the sun would probably be less pleasant

>> No.11006802

I recently picked up smoking again.

I'd like to air out the apartment before my fiancée returns from Texas, but it's cold in Michigan and my depression is back in full swing and I'd rather just read.

Incidentally, I've just poured myself a drink.

>> No.11006837

>>11006793
But the sun has always been a "a bunch of fart particles that happened to occupy a small enough portion of local space for gravity to converge them into a large sphere". The Sun hasn't changed.
You were told that you had a floor on which you walked. At one point in life you discover that there's no floor and you're falling into a bottomless pit. But even when you believed that you were walking onto solid grounds you were falling. You were always falling. The naseous sensation that you feel is only caused by the fact that you believed that there was something under your feet.

>> No.11006851

>>11006837
garbagemen lose the ability to smell garbage after a while, imagine how horrible it would be if they didn't have that ability

>> No.11006863

>>11006802
Hello brother.
Don't allow yourself to fall subject to drugs in order to mask the pain you're feeling. Think of the consequences that are associated with what you're doing.
Don't lose your fiancee because of this.
Help is out there in forms much healthier than smoke and drink.

>> No.11006879

>>11006851
How does that relate to what I said

>> No.11006883

>>11006726
I think what anon means is that he can better appricate humans now that he views them in an "analytic and abstracted manner that goes contrary to immediate experience".
A human is a human is a human, no matter how you see them, but that does not mean you can see them differently.

>> No.11006892

>>11006879
just because something is true doesn't mean it's good to be aware of that thing

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11006893

I don't concern myself with who I am, only who I want to be, and who I could be. He has never interested me, for He is not who I want to be. He is undesirable, a fool, a coward. I do not wish to be Him any longer, I do not wish to be Him. One day, I hope to look back on Him with pity and affection, but today, I look at Him in anger and disappointment.

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11006899

How do you find a gf in your late twenties when you live in a small town

>> No.11006914

>>11006892
Well, yes. But since you are aware of that particular thing and you can't do nothing about it, I'm trying to make you understand that there's no reason why you should feel bad about it.

>> No.11006918

>>11000275
I'd sub man :3

>> No.11006919

>>11005159
I used to love video games as a child and teenager. But I pretty much grew tired of them once I got to college. Now if I play a video game I think about how I would rather be watching some foreign art cinema or reading.

>> No.11006923

>>11006914
it's exhausting though
I don't think you understand the problem

>> No.11006931

>>11006863

What help is out there?

Everyone cites that excuse and it only ever carries with it an air of "I wash my hands of thee." Do you think anyone had to tell Leonard Cohen that "there's help out there"? The man ran off and became a Buddhist monk to silence the voices in his head.

No, I don't consider myself at the level of Cohen. No, I have no illusions of grandeur.

I appreciate your sympathy—sort of—but I've been dealing with anxiety and suicidal depression for about as long as I can remember, and trust me when I say that, at this moment, smoke and drink is the only thing I've found that can help.

>> No.11006934

>>11006923
>I don't think you understand the problem
I do, I do. I went through the same "disenchantment of the world". What do you find exhausting in particular

>> No.11006935

>>11005413
I see sex that way too. I would probably describe it almost exactly as you have. And guess what? I'm absolutely terrible with women and have yet to meet one who see things as I do. (Apart from one, who claimed she did, then fucked some rich guy the second he gave her any attention.)

>> No.11006943

>>11006224
>selling your old macbook and not throwing it in a volcano to ensure your privacy

>> No.11006946

>>11006262
All Arizona products suck dick except for the green tea, which is godly.

>> No.11006947

>>11006899
If there's no potential gfs in your area, it stands to reason that you're screwed.

>> No.11006951

>>11006358
All of this except I also have a weird fetish that would probably freak any good, respectable woman the fuck out.

>> No.11006959

I am surrounded by sheep herding themselves for slaughter

>> No.11006962

>>11006542
No sleep? What?

>> No.11006965

>>11006899
move

>> No.11006973

>>11006959
We're all individuals

>> No.11006983

I like a girl and now I can enjoy classical (By that I mean baroque) music for the first time. Women are amazing and make me enjoy other things, why did the internet lie to me?

>> No.11006984
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11006984

>>11006973
then listen to me and stop running off the bridge you fucking lemming

>> No.11006995

>>11006984
no u

>> No.11007011

I want to read a book where all the dialogue is modern day slang

>> No.11007025

>>11000154
i feel terrible and no matter what i do i can never feel comtempt, pride or satisfaction. no matter how well i do something, no one seems to care, no congratulations, no harsh criticism, no "it was just your obligation", just silence

i wonder why do i keep trying, instead of just barely doing my shit job and being drunk on the rest of my free time (which i was doing last year)

>> No.11007028

On the topic of sexual sanctity: have you ever noticed how you can infer quite a bit about a person's sexuality and sexual preferences just by their personality? There's this girl. We've grown pretty close, and we're both each other's types, but we both have significant others so nothing will ever happen. But things that she's relayed to
me—her sexual conservatism, her assertiveness masking her fears of interpersonal reliance, the fact that her boyfriend is almost 'too nice' for her—have given me a fairly solid idea of her sexual preferences.

I imagine this is because the two are reflective of each other. In other words, they are functions of each other. One's sexual persona is necessarily weaved into their public persona—two sides of the same coin. Interpreting it as such almost destroys the notion of sex as an exclusively private act, given that one's private persona is shaped by their public interactions and vice versa.

Our sexual personas are shaped by our public interactions. Any barrier of taboo we erect are facades of willful ignorance and nothing more.

>> No.11007043
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11007043

Linkola was right

>> No.11007048

>>11007028
>Any barrier of taboo we erect are facades of willful ignorance and nothing more.
I agreed with you until here. It isn't that simple.

>> No.11007051

>>11007048

What conclusion do you draw instead?

>> No.11007060

>>11001088
ayyy me too

>> No.11007169

>>11001061
Yoon Ha Lee - Ninefox Gambit and sequel Raven Stratagem (3rd part coming this year). Dark Military sci-fi quite recent, sick af

>> No.11007204

>>11006947
>>11006947
Except I'm not because no gf :(

>> No.11007253

>>11001091
no, it wasn't nice, i missinterpreted all and it was so boring it's not even worth greentexting

>> No.11007288

>>11007028
Willful ignorance of what, exactly? That people seek sexual satisfaction and that they behave socially in a way that increases the likelihood that they'll find it, social interactions being the sole vehicle through which this is possible?
I don't think that anyone denies that, which doesn't really change the nature of the sexual act itself. What some people might have a problem with, me included, is the fact that people are becoming estranged from the idea of sex as an act of love and approaching it instead as something evil, dirty or vengeful, thereby making this immense area of human experience a worse one, for them and for others.

>> No.11007350

>>11006160
I texted her letting her know why I wasnt talking to her, saying something like, I just dont agree with how you handled the relationship situation

She then parroted me saying,
"I dont agree with how you dealt with not agreeing with how I dealt with the relationship situation
That doesnt mean you have to completely ignore me :("

Im done talking to her. Shes just a dumb bitch

>> No.11007455

>>11007288

My musing wasn't in direct reply to your musings. It was on the topic of sex and sexual philosophy but it wasn't challenging your views. Apologies if it came off that way.

When I say 'willful ignorance' I mean that as individuals who value the arguably illusory demarcation of private lives and public lives exist willfully ignorant of the fact that, in general, we can infer more about a platonic partner's private sexuality than we would care to admit. Because how useful would it be to acknowledge our friends' sexual preferences? Not very.

However, to tie our points together, I would argue that my interpretation it does change the nature of the sexual act itself—however marginal a change it is. To clarify, I think it may even bolster the notion that sex should not be considered, "evil, dirty or vengeful," but I feel by arguing this I'd be broaching elements of nihilism—à la, "nothing is wrong so long as it's harmful pleasure," etc.—and that's a far cry from classifying sex as exclusively an act of love.

>> No.11007464

>>11007455
harmless* pleasure

>> No.11007470

>>11007455
>that sex should not be considered, "evil, dirty or vengeful,"
the situation is there are strict family units and then not. Husband and wife, traditionally and otherwise tend to not be to extreme sexually, because they have kids to raise. And they dont want their kids to be crazy sexually, because they want them to get married and raise kids. Kids are the ultimate responsibility. People who in the moment dont think about their future of marriage or kid rearing, or are however certain they will not want to do either, or especially the latter, open a possible door of exploring sexuality a bit more: open marriages, polyamorous, cucks, swingers, a lifetime of 40 girlfriends, prostitutes, adventurous porn

What are you trying to say?

>> No.11007482

I don't like Gabriel Garcia Marquez at all

>> No.11007495

>>11007470

What are you trying to say?

I don't care about whatever nuclear family, is–ought scenario you're describing. Sexuality is much broader than the narrow slit through which you're viewing it.

>> No.11007516

>>11007482
That's fair, he's not for everyone

>> No.11007520

>>11007495
What was your initial point and saying? I was putting the contrast of where the judgement of sexuality is coming from. For people who myabe dont think about or plan on getting married or having kids sexuality is a vast freedom land: where is any negative decree against certain sexuality coming from? Parents of kids who dont want their kids to be crazy sexual and want their kids to become parents of kids who dont want their kids to become crazy sexual.

Do you believe there should be anything hands off sexually?

All I was trying to do was try to consider the painted picture of how and where from your statement of the perception that sex is 'dirty evil vengeful' exists and comes from.

>> No.11007531

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT MARIO VARGAS LLOSA?

>> No.11007536

>>11007516
Why?

>> No.11007550

>>11007531
what do you think about him, what does he write about?

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11007553

>tfw want to see death of stalin but no hipster gf to see it with
when will death come

>> No.11007564

>>11007550
I've never read a book written by him. I just want to know your opinion because he is a compatriot

>> No.11007566

>>11007288
>>11007495
>idea of sex as an act of love and approaching it instead as something evil, dirty or vengeful,
Or you/they are talking about modern people with rampant cheating and hardcore sportive fucking, and social media sluttery is taking 'sex' away from 'love' and towards something not about 'love'?

>> No.11007583

>>11007520

I see, that's fair. My point overarching point is that the line between our public and private lives is little more than a facade. This extends to sexuality, where seemingly private sex lives are broadcast more openly than we're probably aware.

> how and where from your statement of the perception that sex is 'dirty evil vengeful' exists and comes from.
I know each of those words individually, but the order in which you wrote them is confusing me.

Truth be told, I've lost sight of your thesis. Are you arguing that sex should be considered more sacred than commercialized oversexualization makes it out to be? Or are you rallying against the almost religious aversion to acknowledging that we are sexual beings?

>> No.11007688

trader joe's customers are like 80% soys, so many dudes with beards, glasses, and 6/10 gfs

>> No.11007697

>>11006931
First, let me apologize for having you wait over 2 hours for a reply, It seems you're genuinely interested in finding help.
I can only speak from experience, but go and sit in on some AA meetings and do your research.
We're here to help not only ourselves but our fellow man who is seeking. The answers are out there, just ask.
I hope you can find a way out of your rut, not only for your sake but for that of your fiancee too.

>> No.11007727

>>11006962
Not stop sleeping entirely, but maybe a stretch out of your comfort zone. This could be staying up an extra couple hours or days.
Being sleep deprived will not kill you unless you push it to unheard of extremes, what it will do though is put some needed stress on you that will help "reset" the way you are now, but only if you allow it to.

>> No.11007731

existance was a mistake. things should not exist. there should not be something. there should only be nothing. there should only be nothing, and never else. nothing should have ever existed.

>> No.11007734

>>11007011
write it.

>> No.11007744

>>11007025
Stop trying to please others and do it for yourself, anon.

>> No.11007757

i cant resolve an issue with the ending of my short story and its due in two weeks

>> No.11007762

>>11007253
I'm sorry to hear that, perhaps next time you'll do better.

>> No.11007800

>>11007731
Wait a few more years and that's all that there will be.

>> No.11007804

>>11007757
what is it about?

>> No.11007820

>>11007757
Due to who?
If it's a publicist they will give you their opinions of what you already have which could be beneficial because then you have an area that you know needs work, therefore you can work in their advice and make them happy.
If for school, then contact your professor and ask for help. Thats what you're paying for.

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>>11007731
>nothing
>be

>> No.11007837

>>11007583
>>11007583
I was wondering what that person/or you was saying when they said that phrase, summarized: >>11007566
and also responded though didnt touch upon this yet, your suggestion of how broadcasted sexuality is socially, my response would be you would need to be more specific, give some more examples of what you mean. How significant do you think sex and sexuality is in relation to all other things and aspects of life? How significant to you? How significant to the average person? The percentages of upper and lower bounds? Do the normal people I mentioned, do they broadcast their sexuality socially as you mentioned? What did you or that person mean by the perception of sex being evil, dirty, vengeful?

I dont think sex as a overarching worldly topic is that interesting, but I can understand its popularity and prevalence, and do think there is something strong and powerfully beautiful and special about being close with another human, especially speaking as someone who has gone very long without an embrace of any kind, the thought of a naked hug I can imagine the feeling of love and comfort, and that is the essence of it, that connection, humans being as close as possible, out of all the things and space in the world, it is the very bodies, the very minds, forgetting all else, to entwine and mutually celebrate one another.

>> No.11007885

>>11007837
felt the need for human contact was a weakness, it is almost painfully shameful to admit you want the embrace of another, to feel you need it

>> No.11007906

>>11007553
Go see it by yourself. Especially now that it's been out for awhile and you'll likely have the theater to yourself or almost to yourself. 99% of girls probably wouldn't think it's funny anyway.

>> No.11007911

>>11007757
Scrap it.

>> No.11007965

>>11007911
>>11007804

for a thesis. i know what needs to be fixed, and have ideas on how to. the problem is that i don't think ill have the time to do it properly the way i want it to be

im hoping for some really clever and nuanced way of solidifying the motivations of a character without having to develop a sizeable backstory , as a way of resolving this

>>11007820
no, i like everything about it

>> No.11008486

I've never felt so old. I've never felt so trapped.

>> No.11008512

if i jerk off to the same girl every time it's kind of like having a gf

>> No.11008581

>>11003261
This is how the hippies morphed into the Yippie party. Lifestyle changes in response to failed protesting. Except you're trying to rally Christians without acknowledging that most Christians have an ideal hell that allows the chosen to be brightly lit at all moments, but especially on TV and when in front of an audience. Understanding clicks per capital in a Reverend or Ministers mindset is not going to sit well with you. Americans have this thing where if it happens outside of their soil, it doesn't get collected in the net of compassion.

Unfortunately friend, the secret is that it isn't people that you should be frightened of anymore. Nor should you launch in boycotting anyone. You can choose to oppose these people by running your own systems and selling your own goods, but eventually you'll come face to face with the fact that you have to insert a knife into a wound to remove the pieces that will fester.

Do No Harm. That's first. Second is how to bomb effectively. Third is where to set up the shopping malls. Fourth is say sorry for all the harm.

>> No.11008638

>>11004362
No, you're right. I'm actually only good at causing them. But also good at knowing when I've completely taken over the frame and when my poke stick returns a grrr. In my math days I'd call this profit. In my error, I call it wisdom.

Culture vultures are swooping. As a monkey in a cage, I throw my shit with art. I am more than an animal. And none shall ever know my brilliance.

Swoop, swoop, swoop.

Progressive Conservatism

>> No.11008660

>>11005164
You don't sound like you're living as an animal, you sound like you're suffering from being conscious. You need to spend more time being lost in things, being an actual animal. Pessimism isn't useful once it's been internalised except when you stop to think about the world. If you're thinking about the world this much, you're probably not engaged enough in actual struggle, engaged with enough positive people. Your pessimism is valuable, but pragmatism is more useful. Give it a try.

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11008672

I can't wait to leave my current life behind, I've only told my closest friends. I won't tell my family because they don't understand me. They're all schooled and book smart in careers that don't interest me. I know I'll leave everything I enjoy, but college sucks, and wasting my time studying statistics and business is grinding me down. I just can't wait to strike my own path in life, even if I end up poor or dead.

>> No.11008716

>>11006515
It's easy. Walk it off. You're a fucking human, you're built to walk. Walk somewhere for eight hours and see how you feel. Then do that every day for a couple months moving from place to place. You'll not only be cured, but you'll also appreciate your intellect more. So yeah, walk it off.

>> No.11008758

As post-modernism does it’s slow painful death and we see it supposedly getting replaced with all kinds of various moments of sincerity is it worth killing off if that sincerity simply espoused vapid and stupid feelings and claims? I’m starting to understand the need to devalue all dumb opinions and critically pick apart everything ( while secretly knowing what social constructions are worth a fuck and which ones harm me or annoy me ). In the age of isolation and valueless social interactions the need for so called truth and substance is clear ( with maybe the exception of grand narratives , but fucking SOMETHING must give us psychic nourishment ) but with lack of cohesion and the ever compartamentalized groups of people how can we collectively arrive at any notions at all? Or perhaps I’m overstating the value of the internet here .

>> No.11008769

I'm not actually writing what was on my mind at the time of reading this, instead I thought for awhile and wrote something I thought was clever

>> No.11008774

I want my metaphysical ideas to be part of the canon.

I don't know how high of a goal this is In all honesty but I feel as It must be done.

>> No.11008780

>>11001359
Ivory towers are comfy.
Seriously, most people are incapable of being rational about politics, so I don't bother anymore. I vote when the time comes then dedicate the rest of my life to things I actually care about.

>> No.11008788

>>11008780
I'm actually not even sure I'm going to vote in the upcoming election. Both parties have at least one policy that I vehemently disagree with and which I am unwilling to compromise.

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I need to make a class schedule for summer and fall semesters tonight and then wake up at 7:50am to register before the system crashes so that I can get loan money to pay the god damn rent for the next year. I need to read for wills and estates tomorrow.

Maybe I can just sleep now, but if I try that I'm just going to lay in bed and do nothing.

My house is a mess. Its a fucking disaster. How did it get this bad? How did I not get any work done this weekend finals are in 15 days. Get your shit together man. I just want to read catch 22. But I don't REALLY want to read that otherwise I'd be reading it now instead of shitposting. I need to start that application for the BAR. I need to register for the MPRE. I need to study for finals. I need to learn how to be a functional human being without a dependency on stimulants and booze. I need to go to the gym again. I bet my gains are gone too, just like her.


God I miss her.

>> No.11008808

>>11000221
This anon is a naive loser for thinking his crush will see parallels between the book and their relationship, for making those connections himself, and for thinking the book will in any way actually affect her romantic life in any way rather than her just continuing to fuck chads like usual, but also some part of me wants to be proven wrong but I know instead i'll just be called an incel, which in somewhat funny way supports my position while simultaneously insulting me for it

>> No.11008839

>>11008758
You're learning by expressing. It's not going well.
>>11008780
Political aesthetics are the most important subject and should never be discussed. I wish I had more power and control of media and could do so without being in the public. It's hard to figure out this conundrum, but I've noticed something profound group dynamics that gives me hope.

I only wish I actually cared about something being more right feeling than just caring about something being right. The unexplained, the obscurity of things and systems make me lack any sense of passion.

>> No.11008867

>>11000154
the internet has been poisoning my thoughts for too long
there is a huge difference between remembering a walk in a park and remembering thousands of hours of clips or images or words you saw on a screen
I've recently become horrified about how much of my memory is full of experiences staring at a screen
I'm done with this

>> No.11008872

>>11008839
Curious by what you mean by “ learning by expressing”? Look I don’t have a lot of people to flesh out my ideas and feelings with anon. I’m not even sure if I expressed them correctly here. But I am earnestly interested in any critique or insight you might have.

>> No.11008875

>>11008839
This this is called illuminati.. We could actually do what they do on a smaller scale if 3-4 intelligent like minded individuals got together.

>> No.11008910

one hour left of the audible 30% of sale what last minute shiz should i cop

>> No.11008926

>>11008910
manufacturing consent
consider the lobster
the new jim crow
thinking fast and slow
HP Lovecraft Complete
Sherlock Holmes narrated by stephen fucking fry
Clarrance Darrow: Attorney for the Damned
How music works
Weaving the Web

>> No.11008938

>>11008926
what is this a random list of shit u saw normies reading on the train lmao

>> No.11009212

>>11008672
Anon, at least wait it out and grind through your degree. That way, if you fail in the future and want to fall back on something safe, you'll still have your degree.

>> No.11009214

>>11007800
W-What do you mean anon?

>> No.11009219

I want her to come back

>> No.11009256

>>11007482
Fucking this

I read like a fourth of 100 years of solitude and couldn't continue. Tried love in the time of cholera and it was even worse. The way he writes simply doesn't make sense in my head. It's infuriating

>> No.11009286

>>11008672
Butchers crossing hit me hard in the feelers because I really feel like it's exactly what I need right now. It's a true shame that there's really no way in current society to go make a massive change in a way that you're truely committed to the experience. Everything is so fast and everywhere is the same that no matter where you go, you'll have the same experience.

The closest thing I can think of for what I feel like I need is wildland fire fighting this summer. I would join the military but then you just end up wrapped within societies problems. Even the national guard is just used as disaster relief or riot culling.

What are your plans anon? I need some ideas.

>> No.11009596

I'm so sick and tired of being addicted to weed

>> No.11010672

Every time I make a decision I think about all the other decisions I could have made and how every single one would have been better.