/lit/ - Literature

i thought it was just like a diary, what's so mind blowing about it

nah, he's pretty popular among edgy high schoolers

>>10993979
It is, basically
His utter dedication and selflessness
By the time I was still fucking around in high school he was going off to war fully willing to die for his country

>>10993986
I dont think edgy highschoolers read actual books
They just post on /pol/ and form their opinions from infographics and memes

>>10993966
Read NOS by Miguel Serrano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UiqTNCnFv8
https://vimeo.com/186429508

>>10994010
do you live with your family? what do they think of you owning all that fascist stuff

>>10994041
I live with my father.
Im not ashamed of it if that's what you're asking. Nothing to be ashamed of.
My friends and family know about my beliefs, but they aren't bothered since they know I'm a good person and not a garage larping skinhead.
I keep my opinions to myself unless its brought up.

>>10994010
that's what i did when i was an edgy highschooler

>>10994037
Can you give me the basic gestalt
If its satanic occult tinfoil stuff I'll probably give it a miss

Are there any fascist political philosophers? I can't think of any at all.

What's your opinion on James Mason's magnum opus SIEGE?

>>10994083
it's even worse than that, serrano basically believes hitler never died during wwii, and that he and his top SS men got on flying saucer and flew to an underground base we're they're preparing to take over the world. also hitler is an avatar of the hindu god vishnu, and "aryans" are from another planet, some stuff about a "green ray", etc and we're only scratching the surface

>>10994085
Giovanni Gentile? The guy who wrote the doctrine
Julius Evola although he would detest that label

>>10994088
Honestly, not a huge fan of the man or his book.
I havent finished reading it though so cant give a fair answer. All I know is I dont support faggots who want violent revolution and mass murders, leave that shit to the bolsheviks.

>>10994083
Serrano's jungian neoplatonicist vedic gnostic exegesis of the eternal Hitlerian archetype teaches only the war of the white gods is real, everything else is illusion. Death in battle is glorious, for it means victory in another world. The jews come from different stars.
Salvador Dali called Hitler was the greatest surrealist of the 20th century, as surrealist as the Comte the Lautreamont. Death is the Way to Eternity! Viva la Muerte! Sieg Heil! All Hail the Black Sun!

https://volkischpaganism.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/miguel-serrano-nos-the-book-of-the-resurrection.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPLDDUabAXk

>>10994140
Okay then

>>10994116
i should add that his literary fiction like el/ella is pretty gud, and his account of his travels in india was enjoyable

>>10994083
>>10994119
What's even the point of being a 'moderate' fascist? anything right of Hillary Clinton is seen as fascist by the cultural marxist gatekeepers of our society, so why not go full esoteric hitlerist death cult? why not become everything this sick society hates and fears? Why not worship the devil while you are at that?

>>10994170
>why not be a retard

>>10994170
Whats a "moderate fascist"? All true fascists are fanatics.
Fascism rejects the right and the left, hence the title "third position".
>why not go full esoteric hitlerist death cult and worship the devil
Do I really need to answer that

>>10994037
Stop it with your occult gnostic shit

>>10994170
Also just want to make sure you understand
The occult nazi shit is hugely overblown propaganda
Himmler and his inner circle were into some wacky ideas like thule and hyperborean aryans from outer space, but Hitler used to mock him for it and thought he was a total fruitcake
People who get into this mystical racism shit are just being the stereotype that every normal fascist wants to lose

>>10994119
>Honestly, not a huge fan of the man or his book.

If anything we need to recognise SIEGE for bringing Manson to our attention. Any American Third Positionist or NS movement will have to deal with Manson and his theoretical/theological contributions to the struggle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRH9Nf0-Bzw

btw have you seen Boyd Rice's SIEGE kino trailers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjY0synjmvs&bpctr=1523578601
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLe2muuJ9fs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo64nlKdA0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrWhpSbVmmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7pSUz-CMzM

>>10994170
>anything right of Hillary Clinton is seen as fascist
Ach nein! It's another Nuremberg!

>>10994254
Stop your satanic shilling

>>10994203
There is actually an obscure branch of nazism called strasserism which is more anti capitalist


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strasserism

Most of these guys were murked on the night of the long knives.

>>10994263
Kek

>>10994249
This. As someone who leans far-right I don't even see how all the esotericism ever left the realm of political symbolism (autism i guess). I've always felt that fascism had a certain propensity for secular and practical thinking.

>>10994249
Hitler was not human, he was archetypal and divine, many members of his circle, even people who saw him talk just once, remarked that.

>>10994272
I know all about Strasser.
https://youtu.be/A9kNQ36m7-M
They were taken out because many of them were traitors, not because of their beliefs
Hitler was still anti-capitalist, he just wanted to appease both the left and right wing as best as possible to try and bridge the gap of the parties

>>10993966

You know, I tend to judge people by their hands. If they have long, narrow fingers like noble-women in renaissance paintings, then they are intelligent, smart and worth listening to. If their fingers are thick and with shor phalanxes, they are stupid, tasteless and with worthless opinion. You likely belong to the second category, I'll stop at that. I won't even start with how I consider people who bite their nails.

>>10994274
Thats precisely the point of fascism
To take what has been proven to work and discard everything else
Its an organic and practical ideology, it specifically stays aloof of religious shit because that leaves the realm of objectivity

>>10994279
I've heard that. Evola said he was dangerous because he acted as if he was possessed by a deity.
However there's a big logical leap between saying someone has the qualities of a God and saying he is God.

>>10994298
he looks like he has small, well shaped and dexterous hands like mine. clearly a sign of intelligence.

>>10994298

Also, I am horribly disturbed by thick thumbs. They completely ruin the harmony of a hand, even if the other fingers and the palm have a long, beautiful narrow shape. A thick, short thumb on a long hand it's the confirmation of a stupid person trying to look smart - and failing. It is an attempt at spiritual nobility that will never be reached - the merchant hand. I don't know about your other fingers, but your thumb is enough to dismiss everything you say or will ever say in the future.

>>10994315
it looks like a very moderate thumb to me, a veritable aristotelian thumb, hits that golden mean nawmsayin

>>10993966
>why isn't an extreme right wing book discussed on an extreme left wing board
Huh, don't know. Let me sleep on it and I'll get back to you with an answer.

>>10994310

Small hands are a notorious sign of greed in literature. You always see small, possibly fat and balding greedy people rubbing their little impish hands in pleasure for some trickery they are planning. There is nothing uglier than small hands - I dare say, they are even worse than a small penis. Look at the hands of ancient statues. They all have long, well formed fingers: that's the ideal hand. Not a thick chunk of meat with five short sweaty sausages barely capable to handle both pen and sword attached to it. There is no elegance in small hands. They are disgusting.

>>10994298
>>10994315
I'm happy for you, hope your hand autism gets you far in life. I am doing quite fine with my rugged hands though, thanks for the concern.
The reason my hands appear like that is because I have a form of OCD. I'm obsessed with picking at my hands and nails, which is why I have calloused fat fingers and short nails. It looks pretty horrible but there's not much I can do about it, I subconsciously do it.

>>10994331
>extreme right wing
Its not right wing at all, let alone extreme right
>extreme left wing board
Lol do you really believe this?

>>10994333
there's a difference between small chubby hands and small delicate thin ones. he doesn't look fat to me, he's probably skelly mode if anything.

>>10994336

Exactly. OCD, mental disturbs, incapability to control subconscious impulses: these are all signs of someone you shouldn't trust, both physically (unfit for reproduction) and mentally (unfit for intellectual labour).

>>10994270
>from good citizenship and conformity to total dropout and total revolution
>those who survive the initial period of ABSOLUTE CHAOS that immediately follows, will crawl out of their holes and resume struggle in newly equalised terms... ANIMAL TO ANIMAL!
> Western civilisation is going out with a bang and the lion's share of the spoils will go to those compassionate enough to slit the first throats
>We seem to have fallen for our own propaganda aimed at men's nobler instincts... our own foremost racial philosophers will tell you truly noble instincts exist only in a small minority of whites and not at all in lower races, and most of those white have had their instincts perverted by the jews and their universal tastemaking apparauts

well, what's the alternative, Einstein? join the young republicans? stand by while our people succumb to opiates and high fructose corn syrup? because muh optics, because you were afraid of scaring off that considerable demographic of 'moderate' fascists? We are recruiting them all as soldiers of the revolution, AGAINST THEIR CONSENT. We are putting them in a position were they will have no choice but fight for their miserable lives.

>>10994356
not OP, r8 my hands and tell me my psychological profile

>>10994341
>>10994356
I'm 6'3 95kg
I have an IQ of 135~ and i'm pretty handsome, so I think you're probably wrong in both accounts there, autisté projectionist.
Please stop trying to judge my entire character based off my thumb ya fucken weirdo. This is a book thread not OP's character assessment.

>>10994358
I get the feeling you are one of these people >>10994010

>>10994367
here's another angle

for reference ive had a girl proposition me for sex because of my hands and take pictures of them at a bar. she was some weird g*rman tourist lol

Schizo thread

>>10994388
dude they were fucking with you. Now you look insecure.

>>10994397
OP here
Ignore the hands faggots
Can we get back to books please

>>10994367
>>10994388
bruh go to /soc/

>>10994358
Gamergate was the most important hegelian world historical ocurrence of the 21st century. without Gamergate, there would have been no Trump. We must realise the esoteric significance of Gamergate and the transfiguration of Charles Manson. Gamergate drove the fear of God into the transatlantic MKULTRA tavistock institute elites because it exposed them as the frauds they are

>>10994388
are you one of those 'twinks?

>>10994473
>twinks
isn't that some kind of homosexual subculture? no lol

>>10994445
Im unsure if this is ironic or serious at this point

>>10994495

>>10994417
What books by Mishima are worth reading for their relevancy to far right politics?

>>10994541
all of them

>>10994541
Runaway Horses

>>10994358
You can be radical and good (i.e. rational) instead of being radical and philosophically/spiritually flawed (esotericism, magick, pantheism, amoralism, nihilism and so on).

For example, you can refuse any kind of machiavelism (like those terror attacks or murder you dumbasses want to perpetrate without thinking about the morals/consequences of it [I doubt murdering some jewish faggot student bring any good to fascism generally speaking]) because you saw that it was a shit idea, without refusing to go full blown fascism as soon as the current regime falls (probably due to an economic crisis, but can be a meteorological one for example, as long as the State becomes useless in a crisis situation).

It's all about preparing ourselves in order to be the best, the most radically fascist, in order to take the power as soon as it crumbles down.
Not about "bringing it" but waiting patiently that it crumbles. We are the Roman Empire falling down. We will have a 1929 bis that will hit a lot harder.

Let's be intelligent, strong, patient and radical, not hallucinated dumbasses that believe in tarot or whatever shit you want to believe in like an edgy teenager fascinated by /x/-tier stuff.

Remember the four cardinal virtues :
PRUDENCE
COURAGE
TEMPERANCE
JUSTICE

And the three Theological virtues :
FAITH
HOPE
CHARITY

And by that I don't mean the modern counterfeits.

>>10994541
>far right
stop this
nationalism and fascism aren't right wing

>>10994599
>rational
>good
lmao
the enlightenment was a mistake

>>10994603
>>far right
>stop this
>nationalism and fascism aren't right wing

>>10994604
Thinking that being rational is being a rationalist is very dumb.

I too think the enlightenment was a mistake, but it doesn't mean I would prefer irrationality over rationality just because some jackasses developped some shit theories.

We have a brain and we can use it in a good (not flawed like rationalists) way, therefore let's use it.

>>10994620
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Position
>on a literacy board
>doesnt read

>>10994336
>Its not right wing at all, let alone extreme right
>it says third position so it simply can't be right wing!
Get fucked you limpwristed cunt. This is 4chan, not goybook. You don't have to pretend that fascism is something evil and totally unrelated to whatever conservative views we hold
>Lol do you really believe this?
Yes and your rhetorical question won't challenge that.

>>10994632
I can call myself the King of France, but that hardly makes it so.

>>10994632
>please don't call me leftist or rightist ! I'm better than that, I am third pozishun

Left = there is no natural order, subjectivism and constructivism
Right = there is a natural order, realism

Third-position = ?

>>10994478
Can you post your ass so I can like read your personality from it?

>>10994661
sure, r8 pls

>>10994661

>>10994641
Ok since you're retarded
1. Giovanni Gentile wrote that fascism is neither right nor left, but rather the proverbial middle.
2. All fascists are anti-communist and anti-capitalist
3. Fascism is defined as collective individualism

>>10994636
Literally what
Im not pretending anything I'm stating a fact that all fascists of the early 20th century knew

>>10994647
>capitalism
>natural
Sure if you're hebrew

https://youtu.be/BHibZA-Qs78

>siegekids in this thread
hehehe

>>10994668
>Fascism is defined as collective individualism
that makes no fucking sense

>>10994668
The Right is anti-capitalist since capitalism is against the natural order.

>>10994676
makes about as much sense as a 'stateless society'

>>10994676
Thats what the fasces resemble you fucking brainlet
Individuals bound together in collective destiny
Fascism wants individuals to be at their best but;
"The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all." - NSDAP plan

>>10994668
>1. Giovanni Gentile wrote that fascism is neither right nor left, but rather the proverbial middle.
Like I said, I can call myself the King of France but that doesn't make it so. What Gentile said it was matters little for what it actually is.
>2. All fascists are anti-communist and anti-capitalist
Yes, then it is right wing. Communism is on the left and liberalism in the center, with those who support hierarchy and natural order like the fascists and Ancien Regime monarchists on the right.
>3. Fascism is defined as collective individualism
Fascism and the right reject individualism. Individualism is an enlightenment invention, the individual can only exist in a liberal society.

>>10994690
only national socialism was real and actually worked

Didn't even read but
>>10994668
>collective individualism
Retarded. They have a correct view of the Common Good as something that is at the same time the highest good a citizen can have and the highest good of the City (or State, or Nation).
It is in no way the addition of all the personal goods of all the citizens. That would be general interest.

Example :

Army :
common good => victory

Soldier :
his highest good => the common good of the army => victory
personal goods => good paycheck, becoming more and more high-ranked, developping your mental and physical abilities, having a fulfilling job, etc etc.

Common good of the army =/= addition of the >personal< goods of all the individuals.

>>10994706
>what the founder of the ideology states as the definition of the ideology doesnt count
Ok if you want to go by objectivity with a political compass, it would be here. Not very right wing hey.

>>10994718
Read Mussolini and EXAMINE HIS POLITICS instead of reading Gentile.

Is this a fucking joke? >>10994718

>>10994710
Anon you are arguing with the same people you are trying to define.

>>10994718

>>10994727
Stop being so afraid of being called right-winged then.

>>10994726
Thats where Hitler would fall on the political compass
I dont see whats funny about it

>>10994724
I have read Mussolini
I have his biography
Whats your point

>>10994727
He's not arguing with "people", he's arguing with one idiot that's derailing the thread who is hardly a fascist.

I'm going to stop replying to this guy because he's either intentionally trying to derail the conversation or too stupid to warrant replies. I hope the rest of you stop engaging him too.

>>10994736
>Thats where Hitler would fall on the political compass

>>10994735
I'm not afraid, simply pointing out that its totally incorrect.
Just because /pol/ have created this retarded blend of libertarianism and "fashy" nationalism doesnt change a century old definition.

>>10994740
So Gentile, Mussolini, Mosley, and Hitler were not fascists?

>>10994732
actual pseudoscience, and ad hominem to boot

>>10994750
The guy's trying to say that Hitler had the economics of Stalin and the authoritarianism of Bush, it's pure lunacy.

>>10994748
Its my thread I dont see how I can derail the conversation when you are the one who is fucking wrong but insisting on arguing the point
Read Hitler, then go take the compass test and answer as he would. Try it yourself if you dont believe it, faggot.

>>10994755
Quote me where I said that, you strawmanning dipshit.
Hitler would be anti both of those things.

>>10994170
"Just go off the deep end goy! Nunna dis mattas!"

>>10994758
What the fuck does it matter what some random online political compass test tells you? Is that what you're basing your opinion here on? That test is not an accurate assessment of a person's political views, you could answer with the intention of genociding an entire race and end up in the bottom left. Think for yourself instead of relying on "X says Y so it must be true". I have the sneaking suspicion that you're young, because you seem awfully impressionable.

Further evidence for Fascism/NS being opposed to the right/left political spectrum:
https://youtu.be/1h3_0Ji6WiE
https://youtu.be/hp04VmdRyoI
https://youtu.be/FsAIuAMjzsc
https://youtu.be/1FUZFy9Nd9s

>>10994785
No im not basing my opinion off that, that was my point. I was making a point at how wrong this guy >>10994706 was. Even IF we went by the stupid compass he would be wrong.
Fascism is neither left nor right. What some stupid compass says is irrelevant. Fascism exists outside the political compass, it seeks to smash that whole party/ideology divide and bring people together.

>>10994718
>I call myself x
>this is my political compass
>so this must be what x is
top fucking wew lad. What timeline are we in?

>>10994801
Thats not my political compass
I fall in the centre
This is me here

Christ I thought people on /lit/ would be more well read than /pol/ guess i was wrong

>>10994755
Oh I don't care what he specifically said, just the DK effect is a bunch of nonce sense

>>10994254
ATWA and the universal order are where it's at. Manson ain't dead fuckers

>Charles Manson founded the word ATWA. Although he is held as a political prisoner in one of the most polluted areas in the United States, his vision of life on Earth has inspired many people worldwide to learn about living in balance with the planet. For over 43 years, Manson has tirelessly spoken out against the destructive actions of industrial society.

>ATWA is the acronym for Air Trees Water Animals. It is a name for all life on Earth, and represents the human quest to live in balance with our planet's life-support systems.


http://www.atwaearth.com/manson.html

>hey /lit/ why arent the memoirs of an obscure politician from minor country not well known?

Has anyone read Mosley's works beyond the 100 questions? Are they worthwhile or interesting beyond the historical content?

>>10994823
Thanks lets get this back on topic I cbf arguing with retards.
My Life is great, basically his Mein Kampf.
100 questions is a great work though everyone should read that if they're confused about the ideology (cough).

>>10994672
Siege kiddies and Varglets are both retarded though

>>10993966
How is the translation on this edition of the book? I have two. One was horribly translated and the other is the counter currents one and they let their own bias ruin it.

>>10994870
So far it seems fine to me.

>>10994237
stop it with your roman paedo cult and your dead kike on a stick. Christianity has been the foremost enemy of the white man for the last 2000 years

>>10994878
Christians and Pagans fighting is a jewish ploy

>>10994827
I read the 100 Qs and it struck me as being a bit dated and particularity vague of the philosophical/ideological foundations of British fascism

>>10994927
The origins and docrine of fascism by gentile is your one stop shop if you want the philosophy.
Codex Fascismo parts 1-5 for the real in depth.

>>10994940
1-6**

>>10994940
Are there any good writers who deal with the kind of situation Commonwealth countries find themselves in - ie a distinct lack of identity racial or cultural.

>>10995014
Probably Jonathan Bowden, he spoke about it a lot. I havent read his books but he wrote many.
I wish men like him were still around today.

>>10994445
Kantbot pls stay

>>10995023
Counter Currents put out a great collection of his speeches, very recommended. Relevant to the thread, this is the memoir of a French SS man, very interesting and gives good insight into the interwar politics of France.

>>10995328
Currently reading this, the autobiographical aspects are intriguing and well written, he definitely was an autist though, you can see why he was so unpopular in the TR.

>>10995336
I think Codreanu is kinda dry and boring compared to Rockwell, why hasn’t this been mentioned yet, fantastic book.

>Reading only Codreanu
>Not reading Vulcanescu

>>10995362
>romania
>white

>>10995336
Here is goebbels diary in full if you havent read it:
https://youtu.be/dvxB9LLUch8

>>10995341
>codreanu
>lesser than rockwell
Bait please
Codreanu was garrotted, shot in the back, dissolved in fucking acid and buried under 7 tons of concrete by the (((state)))

>>10995385
I’ll check it out, never read anything by Joey, I’m saying it’s a better book, it’s better written. Codreanu is honestly kinda dry even in comparison to contemporary fascists/NS, maybe a translation issue. Didn’t care for it.

>>10995341
On the marble cliffs by ernst junger is great. The eastern front by leon degrelle is fantastic, too. So is the sea of fertility by mishima. The ultimate question is why is far right literature so /comfy/?

>>10995410
Degrelle and Jünger were amazing, very much agree. I’ve still never read Mishima.

Where should I start with Ezra Pound?

>>10995417
Mishima's Sea of Fertility series is a must read IMO.
Gave me huge respect for the Japanese.

>>10993966
anyone have a pdf for this book

>>10995485
not even the image i chose

this one

I’m going to shamelessly plug on of my favorite living writers, he’s not Fascist, but his TradCath views on economics and morality are very compatible with most writers listed ITT. He is a must read, or at least listen to his lectures even if you don’t agree with his theology, his view on the jews and history in general is spot on and very well researched.

https://m.youtube.com/results?q=e%20michael%20jones&sm=1

>>10995417
Read the sea of fertility. It's actually quite sad because Mishima was gay and he couldn't live with that so he ended up killing himself after he wrote it. Rene guenon is dece too. So is evola. They're more on the philosophical side though.

>>10995628
I really need to read all those guys, they are on my list and Guenon is more where my head is at these days.

Does anyone have the old /pol/ pdf reading lists? I found some on my laptop the other day, there was some great stuff on it.

>>10993995
>selflessness
>willing to die for his country
Yuck

>>10995628
Thats not why he killed himself

>>10994254
Tbh I'm inclined to believe in most of the stuff he's saying in these vids.. too bad I'm a NEETSoc

>>10994706
>Fascism
>Rejecting individualism
Pick one

>>10996408
perhaps magical fairyland Fascism

>>10994732
>le dunning-kruger
Nice reddit study. Really convincing.

>>10994732
garbage study, idiot appeal to authority. there’s a reason there is no follow-up research
>>10996408
truly incredible ignorance

>>10995698
I would give it to you but I can't post rn

>>10995631
>Everytime we go into far right poly sci liberals and leftists become so insecure that they feel the need to spam the thread with ad homs
Why is this?

>>10996412
Fascism is not anti-individualism, it's redefines the ontological perception of what makes the individual completely. It's meant to be a merger between the state and the individual into a single entity

>>10996718
>>10996412
>calling me ignorant