/lit/ - Literature

Perhaps it's even worth asking whether it's possible to have a relevant cultural scene in the current economic and political climate. Were scenes as we know them a byproduct of post WW2 US prosperity? What about pre WW1 European scenes, such as Vienna? Is it fair to even make a comparison with scenes from previous centuries? In Europe of course.

Are we doomed to mediocrity until the next economic crisis hits? I imagine that such an event would weed out the retarded blue haired liberal arts school graduates and give real artists room to breathe. Not that there will be more consumption of culture, but that the fall will both grant them interesting material to work with and prices will all go down, which undoubtely helps with the financial aspect of being an artist

Not at a large scale like there used to be. The world has changed anon.

>>10965647
Not that anyone in this nest of mediocrities would know

>>10965718
What better place is there to ask such questions? Even though there is a lot of shitposting around here, it's also the only place where people are willing to confront uncomfortable realities. A worthy discussion surely won't spring from somewhere like the Paris Review.

>>10965688
That's why I thought of the post crisis aspect, a breakdown of the current system, even if partial, could give rise to something. At some point it will happen, it is, want it or not, a matter of if it will during our lifetime. Further, if there is a way for us to try to accelerate it

nope, high housing prices and universal tertiary education (the two great evils of the modern world) have conspired to destroy all culture in the west.

>>10965647
DC and it's suburbs
Baltimore
Miami area
Those three are probably the biggest I can think of in no particular order.

>>10965912
I wholeheartedly agree with this, and sorry to be repetitive, but that's why I brought up a crisis, which would be especially good if it was the student loan bubble popping, given it is bankruptcy proof and all. I think housing prices will adjust whenever the market gets hit, but the student debt is a more delicate issue. A big part of this is also a change in culture, back to when they didn't ask a bachelor's even from a janitor.

>>10965918
If you want to credit these places it would be nice to be specific as to what is happening there. DC sounds highly unlikely, as does Miami. I don't know Baltimore enough to judge it.

>>10965979
>If you want to credit these places it would be nice to be specific as to what is happening there. DC sounds highly unlikely, as does Miami. I don't know Baltimore enough to judge it.
It sounds like you don't know about any of those places.

>>10965647
Right here, bud. You're on it.

>>10965979
>Crime in Baltimore, generally concentrated in areas high in poverty, has been above the national average for many years. Overall reported crime has dropped by 60% from the mid 1990s to the mid 2010s, but homicide rates remain high and exceed the national average. The worst years for crime in Baltimore overall were from 1993–1996; 1995, with 96,243 crimes reported in 1995 (compare with 38,321 in 2014, albeit following a population decline of 100,000). Baltimore's 344 homicides in 2015 represented the highest homicide rate in the city's recorded history—52.5 per 100,000 people, surpassing the record set in 1993—and the second-highest for U.S. cities behind St. Louis and ahead of Detroit. To put that in perspective, New York City, a city with a 2015 population of 8,491,079 recorded a total of 339 homicides in 2015. Baltimore is a city with a 2015 population of 621,849; which means that in 2015 Baltimore had a homicide rate 14 times higher than New York City's. Of Baltimore's 344 homicides in 2015, 321 (93.3%) of the victims were African-American.[citation needed] Chicago, which saw 762 homicides in 2016 compared to Baltimore's 318, still had a homicide rate (27.2) that was half of Baltimore's because Chicago has a population 4 times greater than Baltimore's.[citation needed] Drug use and deaths by drug use (particularly drugs used intravenously, such as heroin) are a related problem which has crippled Baltimore for decades. Among cities greater than 400,000, Baltimore ranked 2nd in its opiate drug death rate in the United States behind Dayton, Ohio. The DEA reported that a staggering 10% of Baltimore's population- about 64,000 people- are addicted to heroin.

>Once a predominantly industrial town, with an economic base focused on steel processing, shipping, auto manufacturing (General Motors Baltimore Assembly), and transportation, the city experienced deindustrialization which cost residents tens of thousands of low-skill, high-wage jobs.[171] The city now relies on a low-wage service economy, which accounts for 31% of jobs in the city.[172][173] Around the turn of the century, Baltimore was the leading US manufacturer of rye whiskey and straw hats. It also led in refining of crude oil, brought to the city by pipeline from Pennsylvania.[174]

As of March 2015 the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics calculates Baltimore's unemployment rate at 8.1%[175] while one quarter of Baltimore residents (and 37% of Baltimore children) live in poverty.

Doesn't sound promising anon.

>>10965997
None of that is relevant whether or not the city has any culture.

>>10965991
>are there any cities anons?
>these
>can you tell me why?
>you're ignorant
Thanks for the worthwhile input anon, really added to the conversation.

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>>10966017
Having a culture is different from being a cultural hotspot. Does this really need to be explained? Anyone can come here and namedrop random cities, I'm expecting you or anyone else to back up their claims though. So far I have contributed more info regarding the cities YOU brought up than yourself.

>>10966025
Except you didn't say "can you tell me why," you said, "I have no knowledge of these things but am going to say I think you're wrong anyway."

>>10966039
>/pol/ frog posting
Oh, I see.

>>10965647
form one

>>10966041
>what is bumping

Ok then, can you tell me why?

>>10966141
Still waiting

>>10966141
>>10966539
I'm curious as well.

>>10965647
Find someone you admire and approach them

>>10965994

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>>10966041
I guess you won't enlighten us, will you?

As you know, the future is corporate. Right now the hottest cities are the ones which are most conducive to simultaneous high technology business and allowing a young testosterone laden male to reinvent reality from his bedroom and push it onto a stack of other go-getters. Obviously Boston, San Fierro and Brasilia are the most c
orrect answers. Europe is dead. You're going to have to wait until Mac Mulligan reaches the east before things explode here, and then we will be as dead as Europe got. Thankfully that is further off than you expect. In the mean time were alone.

¤ShAdOwInG¤

>>10966833
stupid.

No, the internet killed them.

>>10966840
NAA

>>10965647
the internet